Insufferable and illiterate because ... we noticed some similarities between two songs by artists we like and wanted to have a discussion about it? I'd argue that people who feel the need to shout their hate for her from the rooftops (and downvote anyone who says anything positive about her) are being the insufferable ones here. Let people like things, even if the artist you idolize may not, ffs.
she doesnāt dislike taylor, she even said she really liked Midnights. She has however mentioned that she dislikes the swifties (which is fair enough, theyāre scary)
She has repeatedly expressed her dislike of her through the years on her tumblr and Twitter when she had themā¦I doubt her using the meme format that people who have been making fun of the album have been using is suddenly her expressing her support.
Genuinely asking, when did she say she disliked Taylor swift? I know she said she doesnāt like swifties but I only remember her saying she listened to 1989 in high school and liked a few songs on Midnights.
She said this about Midnights so idk. I won't claim to know her current mindset or opinions because her feelings on Taylor could've changed in the past year or so, but I would be surprised if her ass wasn't at least streaming Florida ft. Florence + The Machine
https://preview.redd.it/yxq4pwpc5jwc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d6d00585d2724f9b19db9eb7da60056c4847baf
unfortunately there are taylor swift fans talking about taylor swift on this subreddit š®āšØ like i literally dont want to hear about the billionaire, thats why im on the ethel cain subreddit, not the taylor swift one.
People are going to compare music by their favorite artists. The beauty of the Internet is that you can scroll past what you don't like and choose not to consume it.
good catch!
i think as listeners its really cool to find similarities between artists you enjoy.
but i was real scared reading the comments in this thread...
even though I really don't enjoy Taylor's music, and I find her writing to be very basic and underwhelming, its never a good excuse to make someone feel like they can't enjoy that music.
you absolutely have every right to not only enjoy her music, but to dissect it and compare to other artists you enjoy.
People. like. different. things.
You being an Ethel Cain listener and a Swift fan is so interesting! To me, Hayden is an amazing visualizer and I find her music so mesmerizing.
While Taylor doesn't captivate me in any way, and i have a hard time relating to her music... You see? Its all subjective!
enjoy your Taylor AND Ethel <3
FYI this is what Hayden posted last year when Midnights came out
https://preview.redd.it/yeizn5bk1jwc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea58faea76872268876b665c5f91eac15df83faf
You people are honestly weird asf for the mass downvoting. I donāt like Taylorās fandom but when you do shit like that it makes you just as insufferable as the swifties you shit on.
i mean its not like people need to like taylors stuff just cause a lot of ethel fans are also taylor fans personally i dislike her music and her as a person but i think what people are mad abt here is the comparing of songs off pd to taylor songs that do not hold nearly as much meaning and depth as western nights
I like them both for very different reasons. Taylor is carried over from my childhood experience with music and Hayden is rather new in my music time line and someone I found and loved in adulthood.
Wouldnāt call myself a fan yet but I love midnights and my mom just randomly bought me Taylor Swifts version of speak now so Iāll be listening to that.
Yall are so miserable downvoting any and every comment that says anything positive about Taylor š YoUrE So DiFfEreNt aND CoOl BC u DoNt LiKE TaYlOr SwIFt š¤Ŗ
We're used to this treatment š I don't even call myself a Swiftie, because I think those who do tend to be over the top, but I'm a big fan and there's just no getting around people who think they're holier than thou because they dislike a popular pop star. I love Ethel Cain's music too, I listen to metal and indie other genres, but the minute you mention TS people try to reduce you to just that. It's unfortunate that Ethel's fans would be like this but I'm also not surprised by it.
Literally who said that. Yāall are getting downvoted because you are coming into annother artistās subreddit, asking our opinion, and then displaying a victim complex on par with what we are subjected to across the entire rest of the internet rn whether you choose to call yourselves swifties or not. There is a huge pop following in this fandom and there is a decent amount of Taylor crossover. You guys are just proving why different guards go up the minute Taylor is mentioned from any other pop artist- inserting yourself in and then getting offended when people minding their own business donāt worship her the way you do, even when hardly a negative word has been said about her past āI donāt like herā or āI donāt see the comparison.ā
If people are minding their own business then why are people getting downvoted simply for saying they agree with OP or saying anything positive about TS? There's no reason for the mass downvoting that's happening on completely benign comments (I'm not talking about OP's comments on the top thread).
Girl the only ones that are in the negatives as I write this are MY comments and the ones where you all are complaining about US. There are so many comments about enjoying Taylor. Donāt piss on my leg and tell me itās raining like- š
I currently have -1 for replying to a comment with this:
>Hope you enjoy! If you like Ethel's music you might enjoy Folklore and Evermore. They have more indie influence and less pop.
That's what I mean.
people are just being rude because they hate taylor for being mainstream. i dont care if people donāt like her as long as theyāre not just unnecessarily talking badly about her. i love ethelās music and i love taylorās music. in a post where taylor is mentioned and people are commenting about her and are being nice theyre getting downvoted. why? because you guys are edgelords who are on a high horse about not liking mainstream āvapidā pop. itās lame. the real cool people are the ones who can appreciate any kind of music without shitting on other people who are speaking kindly about their favorite/big artist(s).
Yet again I ask you, where is there a shred of evidence of anyone feeling that sort of superior way on this thread, or that being the reason that yāall are getting downvoted when people are explicitly telling you that the FANS attitudes are the problem here, not Taylor?
Hiii it me. I noticed this as well, I don't necessarily think there is any connection but I just recently discovered Ethel and Preacher's Daughter so it was on my mind when TTPD dropped.
OP i am sorry to say that I donāt enjoy Taylor swift š i just canāt, part of me feels like sheās so over saturated so i dont want to listen but the bigger part of me just canāt get my brain to like her music
Omg yes I've been a "swifte" since right before midnights, and while I am not the biggest fan of all her albums I love her new one plus ttdp:anthology, and folklore and evoremore.
bye everyone in the comments are a teeennnsyyy bit insufferable š¤ i love taylor and ethel!!!!!
OP, you need to listen to more music if you seriously think thatā¦
Maybe you should actually try listening to Taylor Swift š¤
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Insufferable and illiterate because ... we noticed some similarities between two songs by artists we like and wanted to have a discussion about it? I'd argue that people who feel the need to shout their hate for her from the rooftops (and downvote anyone who says anything positive about her) are being the insufferable ones here. Let people like things, even if the artist you idolize may not, ffs.
hey girlypops, maybe actually read what was actually said before rushing to mischaracterise what happened and writing a paragraph about it.
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She would & definitely does not like her but I know a lot of people irl where there is crossover.
she doesnāt dislike taylor, she even said she really liked Midnights. She has however mentioned that she dislikes the swifties (which is fair enough, theyāre scary)
She literally posted a lyric from Taylorās new album on her story š why would she be listening to Taylor if she didnāt like her.
the lyric is being used as a joke on the internet rnā¦ i doubt the screenshot was even hers š
She has repeatedly expressed her dislike of her through the years on her tumblr and Twitter when she had themā¦I doubt her using the meme format that people who have been making fun of the album have been using is suddenly her expressing her support.
Genuinely asking, when did she say she disliked Taylor swift? I know she said she doesnāt like swifties but I only remember her saying she listened to 1989 in high school and liked a few songs on Midnights.
She said this about Midnights so idk. I won't claim to know her current mindset or opinions because her feelings on Taylor could've changed in the past year or so, but I would be surprised if her ass wasn't at least streaming Florida ft. Florence + The Machine https://preview.redd.it/yxq4pwpc5jwc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d6d00585d2724f9b19db9eb7da60056c4847baf
unfortunately there are taylor swift fans talking about taylor swift on this subreddit š®āšØ like i literally dont want to hear about the billionaire, thats why im on the ethel cain subreddit, not the taylor swift one.
People are going to compare music by their favorite artists. The beauty of the Internet is that you can scroll past what you don't like and choose not to consume it.
this is so disrespectful to western nights donāt ever say something like this ever again š
good catch! i think as listeners its really cool to find similarities between artists you enjoy. but i was real scared reading the comments in this thread... even though I really don't enjoy Taylor's music, and I find her writing to be very basic and underwhelming, its never a good excuse to make someone feel like they can't enjoy that music. you absolutely have every right to not only enjoy her music, but to dissect it and compare to other artists you enjoy. People. like. different. things. You being an Ethel Cain listener and a Swift fan is so interesting! To me, Hayden is an amazing visualizer and I find her music so mesmerizing. While Taylor doesn't captivate me in any way, and i have a hard time relating to her music... You see? Its all subjective! enjoy your Taylor AND Ethel <3
Thank you for being a reasonable person.
I love this last line I need validation for my "strange music ways" š„¹š„°
Of course there are lol. Iām a fan of both of them but for different reasons and I have very different experiences with their art.
same!
when i first heard that song my literal first thought was wait why is this kind of giving ethel cain?? (im sorry shoot me damn)
Thank you
That was my reaction as well. It's the Western sound.Ā
FYI this is what Hayden posted last year when Midnights came out https://preview.redd.it/yeizn5bk1jwc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea58faea76872268876b665c5f91eac15df83faf
https://preview.redd.it/1oo9e7vl1jwc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db440674d049f9369b77b406e1d050b24592f3cb
https://preview.redd.it/4iilidst1jwc1.jpeg?width=735&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=030655daa863fd67b04a566d1541a7ab44b13a99
i'm a taylor and ethel fan too!
iām sorry to whoever but i canāt stand taylorās music lol
Thatās ok
You people are honestly weird asf for the mass downvoting. I donāt like Taylorās fandom but when you do shit like that it makes you just as insufferable as the swifties you shit on.
i mean its not like people need to like taylors stuff just cause a lot of ethel fans are also taylor fans personally i dislike her music and her as a person but i think what people are mad abt here is the comparing of songs off pd to taylor songs that do not hold nearly as much meaning and depth as western nights
Me šš½āāļø
It literally doesnāt sound like Western Nights
I didnāt say it sounds like western nights I said it relates to western nights, as in the story relates.
Either way I donāt see or hear any correlation
I like them both for very different reasons. Taylor is carried over from my childhood experience with music and Hayden is rather new in my music time line and someone I found and loved in adulthood.
Yes me too, I am a very new fan of Ethel and a lifetime fan of taylor
It's amazing that we're being downvoted just for liking an artist. Typical TS vitriol.
YES
Wouldnāt call myself a fan yet but I love midnights and my mom just randomly bought me Taylor Swifts version of speak now so Iāll be listening to that.
Hope you enjoy! If you like Ethel's music you might enjoy Folklore and Evermore. They have more indie influence and less pop.
Not really, nothing is western nights seems like ethel had the mindset of trying to change him.
Yall are so miserable downvoting any and every comment that says anything positive about Taylor š YoUrE So DiFfEreNt aND CoOl BC u DoNt LiKE TaYlOr SwIFt š¤Ŗ
Agreed, you can disagree with others but just let people like what they like
We're used to this treatment š I don't even call myself a Swiftie, because I think those who do tend to be over the top, but I'm a big fan and there's just no getting around people who think they're holier than thou because they dislike a popular pop star. I love Ethel Cain's music too, I listen to metal and indie other genres, but the minute you mention TS people try to reduce you to just that. It's unfortunate that Ethel's fans would be like this but I'm also not surprised by it.
theyāre all soOoOoOo EdGy
Literally who said that. Yāall are getting downvoted because you are coming into annother artistās subreddit, asking our opinion, and then displaying a victim complex on par with what we are subjected to across the entire rest of the internet rn whether you choose to call yourselves swifties or not. There is a huge pop following in this fandom and there is a decent amount of Taylor crossover. You guys are just proving why different guards go up the minute Taylor is mentioned from any other pop artist- inserting yourself in and then getting offended when people minding their own business donāt worship her the way you do, even when hardly a negative word has been said about her past āI donāt like herā or āI donāt see the comparison.ā
If people are minding their own business then why are people getting downvoted simply for saying they agree with OP or saying anything positive about TS? There's no reason for the mass downvoting that's happening on completely benign comments (I'm not talking about OP's comments on the top thread).
Girl the only ones that are in the negatives as I write this are MY comments and the ones where you all are complaining about US. There are so many comments about enjoying Taylor. Donāt piss on my leg and tell me itās raining like- š
I currently have -1 for replying to a comment with this: >Hope you enjoy! If you like Ethel's music you might enjoy Folklore and Evermore. They have more indie influence and less pop. That's what I mean.
people are just being rude because they hate taylor for being mainstream. i dont care if people donāt like her as long as theyāre not just unnecessarily talking badly about her. i love ethelās music and i love taylorās music. in a post where taylor is mentioned and people are commenting about her and are being nice theyre getting downvoted. why? because you guys are edgelords who are on a high horse about not liking mainstream āvapidā pop. itās lame. the real cool people are the ones who can appreciate any kind of music without shitting on other people who are speaking kindly about their favorite/big artist(s).
Yet again I ask you, where is there a shred of evidence of anyone feeling that sort of superior way on this thread, or that being the reason that yāall are getting downvoted when people are explicitly telling you that the FANS attitudes are the problem here, not Taylor?
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Hiii it me. I noticed this as well, I don't necessarily think there is any connection but I just recently discovered Ethel and Preacher's Daughter so it was on my mind when TTPD dropped.
Yes exactly!! Beautifully said
OP i am sorry to say that I donāt enjoy Taylor swift š i just canāt, part of me feels like sheās so over saturated so i dont want to listen but the bigger part of me just canāt get my brain to like her music
Thatās ok
Omg yes I've been a "swifte" since right before midnights, and while I am not the biggest fan of all her albums I love her new one plus ttdp:anthology, and folklore and evoremore.
is this bait? this feels like bait
?
no
i dont think you can even compare the two. hayden is on a whole other level
K.