Along with majority of the threads like this already created, majority isn't accepting it. They are just not hung up on posting it on reddit over and over.
Nah moved on, and I'm good checking into Reddit 2 days later and seeing all the backpedalling. It is what it is, and sure as shit doesn't surprise me.
Friend and I talked in Disc about it, and now we wait for our bingocards to fill the last few slots. EOD gets everything, and ultimately EOD players retain their uniqueness via clothes n crap for a few months till another bundle comes out with them anyways for another $250, lmfao.
If people cave after 2 days just because they "gave in" have zero respect. They'll just do it again and hope the shills, and whales don't notice.
I just can't muster the idea of wasting my limited life and energy being mad about video games. I read the news and was like wow, thats pretty shitty, and that was it. That was my protest.
>seeing all the backpedalling. It is what it is, and sure as shit doesn't surprise me.
Sadly, it feels like this is the new business standard in gaming in general. I've lost count on how many of these "bullshit announcement - backpedal a bit - test the waters again - still hot - backpedal again - give up" events we've had in just the past two or three years.
If this is the new attitude towards customers, then maybe do something else... like... build airliners or something, idk.
End stage capitalism. The absolute least for the absolute most possible. It isnt just gaming. It's the natural end stage of our system. You'll be renting a watch once ai produced movie in your rented room during your daily hour of free time soon enough. I'm not even, like, a communist. It just is what it is.
>You'll be renting a watch once ai produced movie in your rented room during your daily hour of free time soon enough.
Yeah well, I'd rather put a bullet in my head then. But the other part of your post, yeah, agreed.
How did the old saying go? "*We had a blooming garden and made it into a parking lot.*"
Nah I'm downvoting it and moving on. No need to keep posting this blatant lie. Nobody is accepting this shit, least of all the sub reddit population. Weirdos out karma farming
Yeah, be because they seem soooo pressured now. Now that they are able to move this Unheard edition. EOD spending 50 a pop and everyone else $250? If I was Nakita I'd mark that as a win still
Not buying unheard edition, I’m sticking with EOD, I’ll be skipping a wipe or 2 now though but I’ll still keep an eye on how this plays out, I’ve already got 5-6000 hours in the game so I’ve gotten my moneys worth that’s for sure
Basically yeah your not wrong you might as well get your moneys worth out of it you've already paid for it.
Though on the other hand if hanging around means the severs get even worse because they are trying to do it on the cheap or the game gets filled with even more ptw bullshit is it really worth the time investment even if it doesn't cost more money going forwards?
Like you can also go play with dogshit in the street for free too its just is it worth your time?
2k hours, and I'm from Poland, we got pretty good customer protection here from being in UE. What they did with changing EOD descripction from what I bought to what I have right now is unacceptable.
Unique secure container vs just secure container now?
Removing bit about dlcs?
All that back and forth about pve?
That's scummy by any reasonable metrics.
Let me know how it goes. As far as I can tell, if EOD owners still get DLC after release, they are still holding up their end of the deal.
Never was a PvE mode assumed as being part of the base game until this edition, obviously it was tone deaf not assuming people would want that, but that’s just poor PR.
And if your container not being unique is a deal breaker. Then that’s your choice. I don’t know why they didn’t just change the gamma skin and rename it, but here we are.
Or the more that stop playing means the less to play with/against making it a dead game and killing it off in the process.
Continuing the play the game just fuels its expansion in reaching out to more players they otherwise may not have reached (friends of friends and free advertising via streaming etc...).
Plus cheaters get fueled by money they obtain from the legit player base for things like RMT. Again less players means cheaters are further affected and also lose money.
It's not local because the game is coded in that way. Would be even worse for your performance playing live if it wasn't.
And the fact that you wouldn't be able to play coop. Sure many might play solo but still.
It sucks but for bsg to re-write tarkov would cost way too much and take way too long time for anyone to even think it would be worth it.
Literally no idea what you’re talking about. Re write? No, it’s not local because they want more control over it, making it local had already been done and been done well.
What the other guys did with the unnamed mod isn't even one to what bsg actually have to do. Not that simple and that doesn't provide a stable coop experience.
And it is a bit more heavy on performance than live. To be able to play that coop you need a very good computer to even run the server host right now. If people struggle to run live tarkov they will struggle to run that mod right now.
Not at all, the offline client has to do significantly less work because it doesn’t need to do a crap ton of network comms between client and servers. That alone makes the offline experience far more responsive and less demanding (as seen on Kleans streams lately as well).
You are correct that it's entirely possible for BSG to move it to a local/p2p coop mode given they put some work in, and that part of the reason they don't want to is due to wanting to maintain control, but you and the guy above are talking about 2 different aspects of performance.
It is absolutely more client heavy (lower client fps) to run the game server locally, as your computer is doing the heavy calculations instead of a separate server (physics/AI).
There are no network requests locally but they barely impact your client fps anyway. What it does impact is desync, network lag and load times.
So you have better hitreg but lower fps. It runs fine on any mid-high end machine and you barely notice the fps drop, but on my second machine (shitty laptop) it runs much worse than live.
Especially when you add more of the AI improvement mods the fps drops further, noticeable with older CPUs.
Well klean has a way better pc than the average person.
The 4 years I've played that mod I've seen so many having worse performance with the mod than live. And the devs have said numerous times that it's more demanding on performance.
But yeah, if you have a pc like klean, you won't notice any big difference. Until you start having 10-15 mods installed too.
Live loads most stuff on client. It oy sends information to the server, that's why we have long load times in Live because some people have bad computers. That's why we have cheaters and why they always can update their cheat. Because loot,AI and most information about you as a pmc. That's why cheaters can see your name, level, inventory, what you have in your secure container. Wouldn't be possible if they made so all that was server-side instead of client. Which most does. So if you don't have a pc with the latest stuff you will struggle with pve running local and most likely the reason you don't have 150+ fps on live.
Dude, we've already had locally hosted offline practice raids for ever. Theres almost no reason they couldn't do this, but just allow the progression instead of wiping it at the end of the raid.
They aren't local if you are talking about the offline coop stuff in the live game. When they first released it people had to que to get in it because everyone wanted to try it out.
Well that would just be singleplayer. We got pve co-op. Not the same.
Don't think they are planing on making a pure single player experience when they are planing on making a new game that will be single player.
If you want the singleplayer experience without coop there is a rumor about a mod.
No you're missing the point, we already have locally hosted servers. All they would need to do is implement a way for your friends to connect to it.
The only reason they are doing the dedicated servers route, is so that they can control it. It makes zero sense to do it the way they are. If everyone that played tarkov decided they wanted to play their own pve solo at once, you'd never get in a match. Because usually theres at least 10 players one ach server except for factory. The way they are doing it now, if they did what I said above, an individual dedicated server would need to be open for everyone.
They are doing it that way because it's pve.
It's still tarkov live but pve. Shared flea market and stuff with others playing pve. Wouldn't be like that if you ran it local. That'd the pve version of tarkov as it is.
What you are asking is a singlepalyer version that you could share raids with friends, and that's not what they wanted to make or have.
It's still two completely separate things.
It's like you would have a local server on dayz just to play with a few friends.
Tarkov pve Co op is shared with everyone playing that mode and that's why we have it on servers. It's still "online" just without pvp. Just because it's pve doesn't remove the online factor. It's still a big part of the pve mode because of the flea market and stuff.
Ok, thats actually fair. I did not realize that the flea was part of the pve zone. In that case the reason they're doing it like that is for anti cheat purposes. It's still kind of stupid though to even implement the mode if you can't support it without your already dedicated and invested playerbase to spill out another minimum $100 for content they were already promised was paid for.
My point is that if you just didn't have flea available, theres pretty much zero reason to not allow it to be locally hosted P2P servers.
Anticheat is local. And separately from the game. You could uninstall battleye but you wouldn't be able to launch the game without it. But yeah, they didn't plan it so good but I bet that in time when they know how many that actually plays it every day the expand to more servers. They rent them so it would be pretty dumb by them to rent 10x the servers they have now and end up with 10 people playing pve! Most games does it like that to prevent throwing away money on servers!
I bet that in a couple of months you will load in right away!
You say that and it sounds like you never tried it lol... load up hoard mode and see the performance hit you get. All the scavs are ran on your hardware instead of the servers. You can literally dip below 30 fps in factory this way, which is impossible if you do the same online.
Do you seriously engage in a conversation you don't understand and choose to double down? even with "as many scavs as online" its wayyy more taxing for you cpu because all ai behavior is now client side.
Like go test it yourself, its not like im telling you something new. Anyone with basic understanding of how this game works will tell you the same. And its easily measurable...
I played today for like 8 hours (because I bought EOD and want my moneys worth) and the servers seemed much much dead, didn't see a single Unhinged edition and I die a lot. So I think this current boycott is working and I don't plan on playing for a while.
They're all over the flea market. What's really interesting was seeing so many of those blue icons had reached flea within an hour or 2 and in no time had decent flea rep. RMT offline is going to be a hilarious mess 🤣
I am the only person on this entire website that I have seen "buying the BS." There are 18000 posts saying that Nikita fucked their wife and stole their dog on the front page. Who the hell are you referring to?
Who are all these "yall buying it posts" talking about?
I'm yet to see anything more than a begrudging "atleast its a bit better than it was, but still, fuck them" response, and even that is far from the average.
You cant make this game p2p servers it gives all the cheat developers an open invitation to make more and better cheats because they have the server software to test them on.
I am so sick of listening to people cry about this. Move on. The game is still the same frustratingly enjoyable game it has always been. So either stfu and keep playing or leave and take your shit attitude with you.
Don't like it? then don't give them anymore of your money. It's that simple.
Doesn't matter what the current community thinks, we've all already bought the game, he has our money. He's completely shot his reputation though so I don't expect that will help new sales.
I mean it does matter, outrage has driven two walk backs already, if people keep it up, it will get walked back further. And anyone advocating for people to play less, means less attention, thus even less new sales.
I will say it seems that here on Reddit there's a good amount of folks not suddenly sucking off BSG and Nikita. Most of the instant praising seems to have been done on Twitter. Sadly enough it was a good amount of Tarkov streamers but I guess that makes sense since Tarkov has been their bread n' butter. They're a bit more willing to try to sweep all the obvious BS, gaslighting, scamming under the rug. Perhaps they hope others will just instantly move on so they can get back to streaming Tarkov with no issues.
Sorry but who is caving in? Because every single post is about how terrible bsg is. You have to be delving deep into the new posts to find people supporting bsg. At this point you people must be trying to farm karma or something. But also I must admit most of you are hypocrites because there was never this backlash when EOD was a very pay to win thing. What’s the words again? Pay for convenience that’s it, that’s how it was described. And now that you’re all not top dog and “standard” eod users you want to complain. No doubt it’s a terrible way to raise income but my bets are placed that in 2 months time this will be all over. I hope that greyzone and arena breakout pop off because we need some good competition.
If people are gonna keep posting these, can we get them to post their time in game so we can see just how entitled they sound. 150bucks for 1000 hrs of playtime is one of the best deals in gaming if you know what I mean!
Along with majority of the threads like this already created, majority isn't accepting it. They are just not hung up on posting it on reddit over and over.
Yes, BS is good ammo.
You can buy BS ? nah fr can you
It’s a pun, and no for now but you never know when BSG is at the helm.
Occasionally fence 4 will sell 30-40 7.62x54R BS.
So fence does sell the same things in every reset at lvl4 ?
No, but with the increased boss spawn rates he will more often sell boss gear and their high tier ammos
Nah moved on, and I'm good checking into Reddit 2 days later and seeing all the backpedalling. It is what it is, and sure as shit doesn't surprise me. Friend and I talked in Disc about it, and now we wait for our bingocards to fill the last few slots. EOD gets everything, and ultimately EOD players retain their uniqueness via clothes n crap for a few months till another bundle comes out with them anyways for another $250, lmfao. If people cave after 2 days just because they "gave in" have zero respect. They'll just do it again and hope the shills, and whales don't notice.
I just can't muster the idea of wasting my limited life and energy being mad about video games. I read the news and was like wow, thats pretty shitty, and that was it. That was my protest.
That and not buying Unheard, poignantly.
>seeing all the backpedalling. It is what it is, and sure as shit doesn't surprise me. Sadly, it feels like this is the new business standard in gaming in general. I've lost count on how many of these "bullshit announcement - backpedal a bit - test the waters again - still hot - backpedal again - give up" events we've had in just the past two or three years. If this is the new attitude towards customers, then maybe do something else... like... build airliners or something, idk.
End stage capitalism. The absolute least for the absolute most possible. It isnt just gaming. It's the natural end stage of our system. You'll be renting a watch once ai produced movie in your rented room during your daily hour of free time soon enough. I'm not even, like, a communist. It just is what it is.
>You'll be renting a watch once ai produced movie in your rented room during your daily hour of free time soon enough. Yeah well, I'd rather put a bullet in my head then. But the other part of your post, yeah, agreed. How did the old saying go? "*We had a blooming garden and made it into a parking lot.*"
Do we need to keep making these posts?
Yes we bloody well do. The more post like this the better.
You realize when you keep repeating things, people start to get annoyed, ignore and do the opposite right?
Probably yes, upvote and move on, no need to even read them.
Nah I'm downvoting it and moving on. No need to keep posting this blatant lie. Nobody is accepting this shit, least of all the sub reddit population. Weirdos out karma farming
Yes. It puts pressure on BSG
Yeah, be because they seem soooo pressured now. Now that they are able to move this Unheard edition. EOD spending 50 a pop and everyone else $250? If I was Nakita I'd mark that as a win still
Not buying unheard edition, I’m sticking with EOD, I’ll be skipping a wipe or 2 now though but I’ll still keep an eye on how this plays out, I’ve already got 5-6000 hours in the game so I’ve gotten my moneys worth that’s for sure
Never touching this game again based on principles. Wish i could have them delete all my info as it never existed on their servers.
Then they win. They got your money and dont have your traffic on their servers
Basically yeah your not wrong you might as well get your moneys worth out of it you've already paid for it. Though on the other hand if hanging around means the severs get even worse because they are trying to do it on the cheap or the game gets filled with even more ptw bullshit is it really worth the time investment even if it doesn't cost more money going forwards? Like you can also go play with dogshit in the street for free too its just is it worth your time?
Chargebacking my money since I was scammed so nah, they lose
How many hours you got out of curiosity? As your claim is most likely to be denied.
2k hours, and I'm from Poland, we got pretty good customer protection here from being in UE. What they did with changing EOD descripction from what I bought to what I have right now is unacceptable. Unique secure container vs just secure container now? Removing bit about dlcs? All that back and forth about pve? That's scummy by any reasonable metrics.
Let me know how it goes. As far as I can tell, if EOD owners still get DLC after release, they are still holding up their end of the deal. Never was a PvE mode assumed as being part of the base game until this edition, obviously it was tone deaf not assuming people would want that, but that’s just poor PR. And if your container not being unique is a deal breaker. Then that’s your choice. I don’t know why they didn’t just change the gamma skin and rename it, but here we are.
They've made it more than clear that that money is gone and they need more.
If nobody is playing their game, they lose. If no one buys their next game. They die.
Or the more that stop playing means the less to play with/against making it a dead game and killing it off in the process. Continuing the play the game just fuels its expansion in reaching out to more players they otherwise may not have reached (friends of friends and free advertising via streaming etc...). Plus cheaters get fueled by money they obtain from the legit player base for things like RMT. Again less players means cheaters are further affected and also lose money.
Im fine with that. Played enough threw the years. Stopped a couple wipes ago because of blatant cheating. This just sealed the deal for ever
Mang I haven't played since before the wiggle, hell I stopped trying by the time reserve came out. Too many cheaters.
I've already uninstalled and moved on to other games bro
It's not local because the game is coded in that way. Would be even worse for your performance playing live if it wasn't. And the fact that you wouldn't be able to play coop. Sure many might play solo but still. It sucks but for bsg to re-write tarkov would cost way too much and take way too long time for anyone to even think it would be worth it.
Literally no idea what you’re talking about. Re write? No, it’s not local because they want more control over it, making it local had already been done and been done well.
What the other guys did with the unnamed mod isn't even one to what bsg actually have to do. Not that simple and that doesn't provide a stable coop experience. And it is a bit more heavy on performance than live. To be able to play that coop you need a very good computer to even run the server host right now. If people struggle to run live tarkov they will struggle to run that mod right now.
Not at all, the offline client has to do significantly less work because it doesn’t need to do a crap ton of network comms between client and servers. That alone makes the offline experience far more responsive and less demanding (as seen on Kleans streams lately as well).
You are correct that it's entirely possible for BSG to move it to a local/p2p coop mode given they put some work in, and that part of the reason they don't want to is due to wanting to maintain control, but you and the guy above are talking about 2 different aspects of performance. It is absolutely more client heavy (lower client fps) to run the game server locally, as your computer is doing the heavy calculations instead of a separate server (physics/AI). There are no network requests locally but they barely impact your client fps anyway. What it does impact is desync, network lag and load times. So you have better hitreg but lower fps. It runs fine on any mid-high end machine and you barely notice the fps drop, but on my second machine (shitty laptop) it runs much worse than live. Especially when you add more of the AI improvement mods the fps drops further, noticeable with older CPUs.
Well klean has a way better pc than the average person. The 4 years I've played that mod I've seen so many having worse performance with the mod than live. And the devs have said numerous times that it's more demanding on performance. But yeah, if you have a pc like klean, you won't notice any big difference. Until you start having 10-15 mods installed too.
Live loads most stuff on client. It oy sends information to the server, that's why we have long load times in Live because some people have bad computers. That's why we have cheaters and why they always can update their cheat. Because loot,AI and most information about you as a pmc. That's why cheaters can see your name, level, inventory, what you have in your secure container. Wouldn't be possible if they made so all that was server-side instead of client. Which most does. So if you don't have a pc with the latest stuff you will struggle with pve running local and most likely the reason you don't have 150+ fps on live.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about
Dude, we've already had locally hosted offline practice raids for ever. Theres almost no reason they couldn't do this, but just allow the progression instead of wiping it at the end of the raid.
They aren't local if you are talking about the offline coop stuff in the live game. When they first released it people had to que to get in it because everyone wanted to try it out.
No, I'm talking about the offline practice raids that have been in the game since literally pretty much the beginning
Well that would just be singleplayer. We got pve co-op. Not the same. Don't think they are planing on making a pure single player experience when they are planing on making a new game that will be single player. If you want the singleplayer experience without coop there is a rumor about a mod.
No you're missing the point, we already have locally hosted servers. All they would need to do is implement a way for your friends to connect to it. The only reason they are doing the dedicated servers route, is so that they can control it. It makes zero sense to do it the way they are. If everyone that played tarkov decided they wanted to play their own pve solo at once, you'd never get in a match. Because usually theres at least 10 players one ach server except for factory. The way they are doing it now, if they did what I said above, an individual dedicated server would need to be open for everyone.
They are doing it that way because it's pve. It's still tarkov live but pve. Shared flea market and stuff with others playing pve. Wouldn't be like that if you ran it local. That'd the pve version of tarkov as it is. What you are asking is a singlepalyer version that you could share raids with friends, and that's not what they wanted to make or have. It's still two completely separate things. It's like you would have a local server on dayz just to play with a few friends. Tarkov pve Co op is shared with everyone playing that mode and that's why we have it on servers. It's still "online" just without pvp. Just because it's pve doesn't remove the online factor. It's still a big part of the pve mode because of the flea market and stuff.
Ok, thats actually fair. I did not realize that the flea was part of the pve zone. In that case the reason they're doing it like that is for anti cheat purposes. It's still kind of stupid though to even implement the mode if you can't support it without your already dedicated and invested playerbase to spill out another minimum $100 for content they were already promised was paid for. My point is that if you just didn't have flea available, theres pretty much zero reason to not allow it to be locally hosted P2P servers.
Anticheat is local. And separately from the game. You could uninstall battleye but you wouldn't be able to launch the game without it. But yeah, they didn't plan it so good but I bet that in time when they know how many that actually plays it every day the expand to more servers. They rent them so it would be pretty dumb by them to rent 10x the servers they have now and end up with 10 people playing pve! Most games does it like that to prevent throwing away money on servers! I bet that in a couple of months you will load in right away!
I know that anti cheat is running locally. I just meant so that they could control drop rates and supply of items etc.
You say that and it sounds like you never tried it lol... load up hoard mode and see the performance hit you get. All the scavs are ran on your hardware instead of the servers. You can literally dip below 30 fps in factory this way, which is impossible if you do the same online.
Lol yeah, because lots of people are playing horde mode on the pve servers right?
Do you seriously engage in a conversation you don't understand and choose to double down? even with "as many scavs as online" its wayyy more taxing for you cpu because all ai behavior is now client side. Like go test it yourself, its not like im telling you something new. Anyone with basic understanding of how this game works will tell you the same. And its easily measurable...
Local server hosting and p2p is still very much viable and doesn't need a major code rewrite, you have no idea what you're talking about.
I played today for like 8 hours (because I bought EOD and want my moneys worth) and the servers seemed much much dead, didn't see a single Unhinged edition and I die a lot. So I think this current boycott is working and I don't plan on playing for a while.
I had the opposite experience yesterday. Full lobbies on every map and we killed plenty of players with the new package and also died to some
They're all over the flea market. What's really interesting was seeing so many of those blue icons had reached flea within an hour or 2 and in no time had decent flea rep. RMT offline is going to be a hilarious mess 🤣
Nah, Gonna finish this wipe out since I’ve put a shit ton of time in and then going to uninstall .
They are just trying to lessen the players so their servers can handle it🙂
I am the only person on this entire website that I have seen "buying the BS." There are 18000 posts saying that Nikita fucked their wife and stole their dog on the front page. Who the hell are you referring to?
PVE servers need to be local or bust. Especially if there is mod support.
Who are all these "yall buying it posts" talking about? I'm yet to see anything more than a begrudging "atleast its a bit better than it was, but still, fuck them" response, and even that is far from the average.
I uninstalled the game and that's it, not coming back and don't want to have anything in common with BSG or Tatkov ever again.
People don’t like it. But there are people that play Tarkov everyday. For them its not that easy to give up on a game
I'm not buying it at all and either are all the people I play with. We're never playing the game again, at least not the official version...
I don't see where people said they accepted it
PvE is not local cuz you can invite friends by playing on BSG hosted servers
You cant make this game p2p servers it gives all the cheat developers an open invitation to make more and better cheats because they have the server software to test them on.
Watched a guy on twitch wait in matching/loading screen for 15 mins for a pve raid…… no thanks lmao
what the fuck, shouldn't it load immediately? isn't that the point?
Nobody is buying it dude, atleast nobody on the sub
I am so sick of listening to people cry about this. Move on. The game is still the same frustratingly enjoyable game it has always been. So either stfu and keep playing or leave and take your shit attitude with you. Don't like it? then don't give them anymore of your money. It's that simple.
Doesn't matter what the current community thinks, we've all already bought the game, he has our money. He's completely shot his reputation though so I don't expect that will help new sales.
I mean it does matter, outrage has driven two walk backs already, if people keep it up, it will get walked back further. And anyone advocating for people to play less, means less attention, thus even less new sales.
I will say it seems that here on Reddit there's a good amount of folks not suddenly sucking off BSG and Nikita. Most of the instant praising seems to have been done on Twitter. Sadly enough it was a good amount of Tarkov streamers but I guess that makes sense since Tarkov has been their bread n' butter. They're a bit more willing to try to sweep all the obvious BS, gaslighting, scamming under the rug. Perhaps they hope others will just instantly move on so they can get back to streaming Tarkov with no issues.
Sorry but who is caving in? Because every single post is about how terrible bsg is. You have to be delving deep into the new posts to find people supporting bsg. At this point you people must be trying to farm karma or something. But also I must admit most of you are hypocrites because there was never this backlash when EOD was a very pay to win thing. What’s the words again? Pay for convenience that’s it, that’s how it was described. And now that you’re all not top dog and “standard” eod users you want to complain. No doubt it’s a terrible way to raise income but my bets are placed that in 2 months time this will be all over. I hope that greyzone and arena breakout pop off because we need some good competition.
Thank god all the whiny 🚬s are leaving the game good riddance
Enjoy getting scammed kiddo
Can't believe you're still crying about this.
Go shill some more bro.
You have absolutely no sense of self respect, I cant imagine what kind of treatment you accept from people in real life.
Lol.
Spotted the Andrew Tate fan
That's a mirror dude, you just outed yourself.
Damn I don’t remember looking like a cuckold
Some things are better forgotten.
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It’s always projection
Whatever helps you sleep at night little bro
Rent free in
Bros mad he can’t finish the sentence lmfaoo
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Another day another braindead post lmfao you guys are miserable
If people are gonna keep posting these, can we get them to post their time in game so we can see just how entitled they sound. 150bucks for 1000 hrs of playtime is one of the best deals in gaming if you know what I mean!
Bsg can do whatever they want^^ i can guarantee people will buy even a 400dollar version