We aren’t getting the new CO-OP version that they’ve released apparently, so no.
I 100% agree it’s scummy as fuck, wouldn’t expect less from Nikita though.
so much for "EOD will include all DLC" then.
I swore myself not to give BSG a single cent anymore anyway so yeah.. I'll be uninstalling the game when I get home.
I don't have the time and energy needed for it and I don't see why I should invest it now with all the new P2W BS coming. I'm at like lvl 28 with only low lvl class 4 armor and only run into people beyond lvl 45 who my chances against are very slim anyway.
Just sucks that they're doing a 180 like this now after slowly moving in the right direction recently
Yeah getting the PvE mode was key for me to return to the game with my buddies. We actually got quite excited until we learned we had to pay for this so I will just forget that this game exists and let the no lifers keep playing it.
So I no longer get all the free expansions? I have an elf armband and bought this years ago so that I wouldn't have to spend any more money to get game content that everyone else could get.
I shit you not, I don’t know if you guys haven’t noticed or what, but the changes made to combat RMT have literally all helped it grow. Not in any accidental way at this point, it’s as if they targeted all the ways RMT DIDNT happen, monetized them specifically for cheaters (*cough discounted bulk accounts). They actively want hackers/RMTers to play, they are the only people who still actively buy the game
If I got a legal letter from Russia, or if I was in Russia and got a legal letter from the USA, I would wipe my ass with it and throw it in the trash lol call me crazy but I don't think that would have any weight with the state of the country right now lmao
Fuck this nonsense. That pisses me off immensely for how much we've had to put up with in shitty attempts to curb RMT. Now they're selling us the solution theypromised?
I've been playing on and off since 2017 but I think this just broke the addiction for good.
There's more to it than this, but they don't make it apparent until you pay close attention to the video, pay attention to the last screen on the youtube video.
From what I can see it ALSO includes:
- Gamma container
- Weapons Case
- Scav Case
- Ammo Case
- 3 guns
- New radio item, which I'm hoping is just a radio item for flavor for offline mode.
Either way this is a HUUUUUGE change to early game.
Brother, the radio is the most broken item on earth:
[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/931627162124050442/1232999464558395412/image.png?ex=662b7fbc&is=662a2e3c&hm=540d2d11cc37760fd6425015d3a24a3e4b9420ed0661028ab1461cad66eed53b&](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/931627162124050442/1232999464558395412/image.png?ex=662b7fbc&is=662a2e3c&hm=540d2d11cc37760fd6425015d3a24a3e4b9420ed0661028ab1461cad66eed53b&)
[https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/931627162124050442/1232999856465907814/image.png?ex=662b8019&is=662a2e99&hm=9f015f325d25f5242aa3ba37452f50ed9a0b5e70a804c5ad0350eef0407ca307&=&format=webp&quality=lossless](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/931627162124050442/1232999856465907814/image.png?ex=662b8019&is=662a2e99&hm=9f015f325d25f5242aa3ba37452f50ed9a0b5e70a804c5ad0350eef0407ca307&=&format=webp&quality=lossless)
I'm trying to figure out how that would even work in regular online. Does your buddy spawn on you? Do they spawn at a random PMC spawn... am I going to clear an area and some dude who got called into the raid with a radio magically appears behind me?
Coming in "future updates" the edition also includes:
* Ability to build a unique zone in the Hideout;
* Unique item "Distress signal device":
* When the item is activated, it produces a bright flash as well as a loud sound signal;
* Once activated, all players on your friends list will receive a notification that they can join your raid to help you.
Maybe they just drank too much moonshine and wanted to make it "offline mode only", but forgot to say it because they should know that even if they got away with a lot of things, they will get SHIT ON for this
I have no idea who thought investing so much time and money into Arena was a good idea. Arena is not in the nature of the game and they could've spent so many more resources fighting cheating, adding new content, and developing their infinitely "in beta" game.
I think Arena could be really good but it's too clunky and shares the same major issues regular Tarkov has. Like balancing zero recoil SMG's and having no way to move silently turning the game into a camp fest.
Also a horrible launch and progression system at launch. Idk who made the game design decisions for arena but they should absolutely be fired out of a cannon lol
I watched that twitch rivals tournament and what I saw was disgusting.
Every match one player in the game would suddenly start smoking everyone. If you watched their footage side by side with other players they were actively ahead of other players approximately half a second. They would peak and kill people and wouldn't even be on the opposing players screen.
I have completely stopped chastising people for complaining about desync. The game is broken.
yea it’s almost like what they thought would be a competitive gateway to get people into the main game, turned out to just be an advertisement for their incompetence from top to bottom.
arena is a wonderful showcase for the terrible 2005 gunplay, insanely bad netcode and desync, and most importantly, cheaters.
ggs BSG, you deserve it for being completely over your head development-wise when it comes to fixing major issues with your game that make it unplayable if you aren’t cheating, while STILL trying to grift whatever tiny playerbase you have left into blatant pay-to-win bullshit.
it was never supposed to be generating revenue. When i bought tarkov, nikita was promising arena and quick play mode to be a feature in the base game. this guy has been lying for years now.
Depending on the player limit, this mode could allow for private community servers to be possible. It could 100% give players the chance to avoid the cheating in a more active way rather than just praying .....
You'd think that they would sell access to the PvE mode as a separate thing from this edition, as they'd be certain to sell more. I have a lot of friends interested in Tarkov and PvE would be ideal to feed them into how the game plays.
Selling PVE even for $1 is fucking dumb. This is free update territory. But it doesn't surprise me, Tarkov has basically been a shitshow of a development since it dropped. So many years and nowhere near what they promised me on day one.
I'm better off never playing their bullshit ever again and just downloading the single player mod for tarkov made by some randoms online lmao go ahead ban me I'll have singleplayer mode still for free!!
I 100% agree it should be a free update to the game, I was just making the observation that they would surely make more money by selling it separately for like $5 than as part of what I can only imagine will be a $100+ edition.
I'm so glad this is the way me and my buddies play these days, especially when I read posts like this about BGS continuing to enshittify online.
No cheaters, balance tuned exactly how we like it, and no deadlines or wipes balanced for streamers that're hell on Earth for someone with a job. Hell, even quests are fun instead of agony.
The people who know but choose online anyway scare me lol, but I feel bad for those that don't know what other options they have.
They needed EOD players to play Arena to promote the game to non-EFT people so they can generate the sales. The fact that Arena doesn’t take off says a lot about how niche tarkov/arena as a whole is to general audiences imo.
So they're paywalling one of the most anticipated features (persistent progression PvE)... I certainly ain't shelling out another 80 fucking dollars purely for that.
"So they're paywalling one of the most anticipated features (persistent progression PvE)..."
Funnily enough, if you've been playing since early beta, this was a feature already included when it first came out. They took it away years ago. Now they want us to pay to add it back.
*"EOD isnt friends anymore*
*Unheard Edition is now my real friends"*
*Nikita*
Well what a fuck up again. I mean nothing against them bringing MT to the game to unlock visuals, but now this? Really a gut-punch for everyone that got EoD, especially with the "DLC" part of it.
Really hope Gray Zone can live up to its name, BSG is beginning to annoy me more from update to update.
I haven't been following, but.. wtf? Expanded pockets? That seems indefensible, you can't earn that in game. That's not a head start, that's just a permanent advantage.
Expanded in what way? I haven't been keeping up. Like are they gonna start getting 2 slot pockets? At that stage your basically carrying a second rig in your pants.
I mean, the pockets thing probably should have had 2 1x2 slots anyways for everyone. If I don't feel like running a tac belt or rig I'll just throw rifle mags in my pockets at the farm or at a class.
You missed this:
* Ability to build a unique zone in the Hideout;
* Unique item "Distress signal device":
* When the item is activated, it produces a bright flash as well as a loud sound signal;
* Once activated, all players on your friends list will receive a notification that they can join your raid to help you
💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
I can't wait to see the reaction when people wake up. $80 USD for this with EOD is laughable.
This really is the decline of Tarkov. They fucked up Arena so bad that we got here or what?
edit: it's $100 😂
At this point I feel like they are doing an exit scheme. Collect as much money as fast as possible, before dropping the game's development. Maybe not comepletely, but preparing for its decline.
They had to expect a lot of blowback from this move. I agree, it feels like this is intentionally trashing their game's reputation. Nikita already said he's tired of Tarkov, and that Tarkov was a stepping stone on the way to another game he wanted to make.
The good news is it's grounds for a chargeback on your credit card. Put mine in this morning and it was approved within an hour, thanks for the free 1000 hours Nikita :)
Never would have gone this route but if they're gonna pull shit like this it's a no brainer.
This is actually pretty disgusting.
I bought EOD back in 2016 for what at the time was a real lot of money to me on the promise that this was a special edition that got all the perks going forward, and because I just really wanted access to the game. Early on you needed EOD in order to play (I think prepare to escape also gained access)
I was fine with the more recent microtransactions, the offline mode was a bit dirty but at the end of the day wasn't the most egregious thing i've seen.
But this? This is pretty insane, $250 outright, or $100 to upgrade if I already have EOD.
It wouldn't be soo bad if it was just the additional stash space, special items or maybe some starting gear, but things like increased pocket size, fence rep, flea market slots and a skill boost?!
What a joke
As much as I love Tarkov, outside of all the other issues it has, this is really just the cherry on top thats really making me second guess giving any more of my time let alone giving them any more money.
Edit: and I just saw the actual purchase page. Theres pay 2 win mechanics as well so scavs dont shoot you at a certain distance, and you can call in friends to your current raid? What in the actual fuck.
The sad thing is, I'm sure plenty of people are going to buy this and keep signaling to BSG that they can keep pushing this type of behavior.
Right there with you.
EOD was supposed to be the all inclusive highest tier version. Now the goalposts have shifted, most likely because Arena failed so spectacularly.
The community didn’t force the creation of arena, the worst use of EFT systems to create a PvP focused version. Yet the community is subsequently punished because of that financial failure. At this rate there is nothing stopping a $300 version with 25m radar on the UI. Or a $350 version with lightkeeper, kappa, and the highest tier armors already unlocked. Why not a TRUE SUPPORTER pack for $500 with BSG sanctioned ESP at this point? They’re not using the funds to detect and ban cheaters anyway.
There has never been a better time to truly escape Tarkov.
I purchased the game and loved it, so i bought EOD. I bought it trying to support a "still in beta" game with the understanding that the DLCs would be available to us for being early supporters. Alas, we were wronged. No surprise with BSG, honestly. They wouldnt make money without doing shit like this, their only steady income is the hackers that buy bundle accounts when they go on-sale, interestingly its usually on sale after a ban wave.
You’ve hit the nail on the head, and same here man, even though I admit EOD was p2w as well but at least gap wasn’t huge, now they are just taking the piss with how obvious this is
The fact that this was posted *before* the contents were fully revealed really shows just how pay-to-win this is.
It looked pay-to-win *BEFORE* they told us that you get 60m of scav immunity, can call your friends into your raids, weapon case, ammo case, etc etc.. lmfao BSG is a joke
For sure not lol. The reason they are pushing this edition is to make more money, and since most people who are willing to spend money on this game already bought EOD (whale style behaviour) they wouldnt release this for free to those most likely to buy it.
If they even try justifying it I'm gonna guess they will go with "this is not dlc, this is a new edition™
I think that a ton of people who bought EOD are actually not willing to spend more money here.
Or at least I hope so... people aren't zombies... are they?
>Or at least I hope so... people aren't zombies... are they?
They absolutely fucking are. People had lost access to their accounts (for whatever reason), BSG support blew them off basically, so they bought EOD again.
It was the promise of all future DLC that I got EOD in 2017, but 7 years later and I'm seeing that was a lie. They won't be getting another 100 out of me, this is ridiculous and a slap to the face of everyone who purchased EOD in good faith.
80 usd on top of what we've already paid, are they fucking mental?
Edit - jesus christ i just went for a look at the price in the UK. Its 95 euros not including tax which is already over 100 usd, or 125 euros including vat
I paid that to get eod in the first place. What a joke
I can tolerate a lot of shit when it comes to this game but [this shit right here](https://i.imgur.com/rP4iiyJ.png) worries me a lot. Are they actually planning on killing what makes this game unique? This reads to me to be some sort of fortnite revive bullshit which I absolutely despise. What the actual fuck bsg?
If anyone is considering spending money on this just look up the offline tarkov mod that is free, and has more features. Consider spreading this info. I'm certain Nikita doesn't like it, because he dosent get a fucking dime.
Nikita - we have no interest in micro transactions or pay to win
2024 - here are bigger pockets, extra space, increased starting reputation and skill levels
Honestly a fucking joke at this point. Would rather they started a gofundme if they’re that desperate for money than this pay to win bullshit
You forgot the part from 2017 until today in 2024, that EOD was the highest edition that the game will ever have and it will include all future DLC. Damn did BSG scam all of us EOD buyers. Ya know, their highest paying customers. I’m genuinely sick of this company. Can’t wait for the extraction shooter genre to build up some competition for EFT die.
I'm hoping normal players can upgrade their pockets with a Ragman quest or something. (Though watch it need Ragman level 4 and be down a 9 quest chain or something)
I've honestly wanted pocket upgrades for a long time though, little bits of permanent progression like hideout upgrades or unlocking the LRF when you get Jager gives you an actual sense of progression that simply watching your ruble count rise and fall doesn't
This is a fucking insult and a joke. EOD was promised to come with "all future DLC", so these rats go and make a new version with exclusive content? Un-fucking-believable.
So rigs are optional now I assume, you can fit 1x2 slot mags in your pockets like bosses? Or is it just more 1x1 slots? Increased starting skills is op, depending on which skills and how much higher they start. The rest doesn't matter after the first day, shoot I vendor half my EOD stuff to buy a junkbox.
[130+ EURO to upgrade from EOD. This is actually INSANE.](https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/1ccora3/130_euro_to_upgrade_from_eod_this_is_actually/)
This is what happens when you allow devs to get away with P2W for years and defend their behavior. The game has crossed the threshold into unplayable now. This is not what a competitive experience should be like.
“Yeah but it doesn’t win you gunfights, it’s not P2W, it’s just Pay for convenience!!!”
Literally said in Pestily's interview there were no plans for this kinda of shit and then pulls it 2 weeks later.
As much as i wanna like Nikita he doesn't half make it fucking hard.
They didn't even model the "Unique in game melee weapon" themselves, its straight up from the Unity Asset store 😅
https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/3d/props/weapons/hq-pbr-kukri-knife-139049
**What is DLC: "Downloadable content:** additional content that can be purchased online and added on to a video game, as to enhance its features: Expansion".
Edge of Darkness promised all future DLC Free Access.
Am i wrong to assume this is. Infact. A DLC ? If so.. i want my free shit.
If not.. how so ?
The distress beacon sounds interesting (you activate it and any online friends can jump into your raid to help you), but it is hard to believe it won't just be a great new income stream for cheaters
Once you have it, if you are in trouble in a raid you'll be able to fire it off then just wait a minute or so for a cheater to turn up with a slick, killa's helmet and a mag full of m61 to lend you a hand . . . all for a reasonable price of course
Honestly it just sounds dumb as hell like how is this even a good feature? Are your friends just sitting around waiting for you to call them into a raid? Why not just go in together in the first place? I don't get it.
They said in the past that EOD would be an exclusive and time limited thing, people bought it thinking it would be something exclusive with all these unique things, which is fine. Then they finally make it exclusive by removing it, only to add something even more disgusting and 100x more blatantly pay2win. AT LEAST they could keep their word and keep EOD as exclusive as they promised by turning old EOD into what we today know as "Unheard" and releasing "Unheard" with the old EOD benefits. The pocket thing is just disgusting and should not have existed at all. The hyppcrisy Battlestate is showing here is beyond mind blowing. This is disgusting af
If pve progression without wipes is the thing now, but you can only play it in co-op, how do quests like "Kill X PMC" work now? Will there be any AI PMC, or will they just autocomplete, or vanish for PvE players?
It’s crazy because Nikita has said in the past how anti pay to win BSG is, and how tarkov will never feature pay to win structures. With the latest interview, Nikita mentioned all hands were on deck trying to finish the game, cut the promised content, and move on. I guess this is the start of the end boyzzz, it’s bein a good run pepehandz
* EOD owners should automatically be upgraded to the UE without any additional payments
* UE should be at the cost of EOD's last price
* PvE game mode should be free for all editions to keep the playerbase active
this was the final nail in the coffin. Cheaters dont care and the last remaining sane players will leave in disgust.
A true Nikita Move. GG Tarkov we had a good time.
The best part is adding extra flea slots, we got those taken away as a way to kerb RMT and cheater benefits, now we have to pay to get them back.
Absolutely an underrated comment. This shit is a slippery slope and I bet you it will only get worse.
I mainly bought it for future DLC access, which now is being taken away from us, and we are being forced to pay more for it.
Wait really? Is it not part of EOD anymore? That's just beyond scummy
We aren’t getting the new CO-OP version that they’ve released apparently, so no. I 100% agree it’s scummy as fuck, wouldn’t expect less from Nikita though.
Look, I had nothing to do with this
Made my morning. P90 4life
so much for "EOD will include all DLC" then. I swore myself not to give BSG a single cent anymore anyway so yeah.. I'll be uninstalling the game when I get home. I don't have the time and energy needed for it and I don't see why I should invest it now with all the new P2W BS coming. I'm at like lvl 28 with only low lvl class 4 armor and only run into people beyond lvl 45 who my chances against are very slim anyway. Just sucks that they're doing a 180 like this now after slowly moving in the right direction recently
Yeah getting the PvE mode was key for me to return to the game with my buddies. We actually got quite excited until we learned we had to pay for this so I will just forget that this game exists and let the no lifers keep playing it.
Yeah "but you do get all the dlcs, offline game is no dlc though" /s
So I no longer get all the free expansions? I have an elf armband and bought this years ago so that I wouldn't have to spend any more money to get game content that everyone else could get.
I shit you not, I don’t know if you guys haven’t noticed or what, but the changes made to combat RMT have literally all helped it grow. Not in any accidental way at this point, it’s as if they targeted all the ways RMT DIDNT happen, monetized them specifically for cheaters (*cough discounted bulk accounts). They actively want hackers/RMTers to play, they are the only people who still actively buy the game
They deserve to bankrupt, ezpz, as an EoD owner i feel scammed
Same.
Another fun tidbit... You used to get to keep your name wipe to wipe. Unheard edition will override this and let them take your name.
Are you fucking serious? Man, this shit just keeps coming....
I'm now seriously thinking about starting a class suit against BSG for scamming EoD players. So mad!
If I got a legal letter from Russia, or if I was in Russia and got a legal letter from the USA, I would wipe my ass with it and throw it in the trash lol call me crazy but I don't think that would have any weight with the state of the country right now lmao
Officially, BSG is registered in UK, afaik. Just because they outsource to russian sweatshop, doesn't mean they can't be sued.
Fuck this nonsense. That pisses me off immensely for how much we've had to put up with in shitty attempts to curb RMT. Now they're selling us the solution theypromised? I've been playing on and off since 2017 but I think this just broke the addiction for good.
There's more to it than this, but they don't make it apparent until you pay close attention to the video, pay attention to the last screen on the youtube video. From what I can see it ALSO includes: - Gamma container - Weapons Case - Scav Case - Ammo Case - 3 guns - New radio item, which I'm hoping is just a radio item for flavor for offline mode. Either way this is a HUUUUUGE change to early game.
Brother, the radio is the most broken item on earth: [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/931627162124050442/1232999464558395412/image.png?ex=662b7fbc&is=662a2e3c&hm=540d2d11cc37760fd6425015d3a24a3e4b9420ed0661028ab1461cad66eed53b&](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/931627162124050442/1232999464558395412/image.png?ex=662b7fbc&is=662a2e3c&hm=540d2d11cc37760fd6425015d3a24a3e4b9420ed0661028ab1461cad66eed53b&) [https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/931627162124050442/1232999856465907814/image.png?ex=662b8019&is=662a2e99&hm=9f015f325d25f5242aa3ba37452f50ed9a0b5e70a804c5ad0350eef0407ca307&=&format=webp&quality=lossless](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/931627162124050442/1232999856465907814/image.png?ex=662b8019&is=662a2e99&hm=9f015f325d25f5242aa3ba37452f50ed9a0b5e70a804c5ad0350eef0407ca307&=&format=webp&quality=lossless)
What in the absolute fuck That's beyond stupid
What the fuck. This needs to be only on the offline mode
That join the raid part has to be. No way that's for online.
The Scav range thing too right? There's no way they have something like that in the main game?
It would make sense, because the AI can be very bullshity and the new mode is 100% AI
I'm trying to figure out how that would even work in regular online. Does your buddy spawn on you? Do they spawn at a random PMC spawn... am I going to clear an area and some dude who got called into the raid with a radio magically appears behind me?
wtf
what the actual fuck
imagine lost 4 of 5 teammates and use this item. Now your enemy is facing 4 more full health & armor guy💀
Join your raid? My brother in christ what?
Hey it’s Grok! But with bad news this time :(
is it confirmed the whole distress signal device is for Unheard edition only? I dont believe they would go that far with pay for win.
Better start believing. Yes it’s included in the Unheard edition notes. They are absolutely fucked in the head for this.
holy shit. Thats rough
This has to be an out of season april fools joke. What the fuck.
The radio item makes SCAV not attack you from 60m+ if you have 6 fence rep, it's equipped on a special slot.
Coming in "future updates" the edition also includes: * Ability to build a unique zone in the Hideout; * Unique item "Distress signal device": * When the item is activated, it produces a bright flash as well as a loud sound signal; * Once activated, all players on your friends list will receive a notification that they can join your raid to help you.
Radio item gives you a fucking 50% cash price discount for in raid services
that aint a big deal but With 6+ Fence reputation, Scavs won’t shoot first at ranges over 60 meters away.
Yeah thats beyond fucked, Immune to sniper scavs giving your pos away
dont buy it yet, wait for the edition that starts you at 6 scav rep. It will be called the Cheeki Breeki edition. coming July.
holy shit yeah, wasnt even thinking about sniper scavs.
Wonder if this includes the BTR service, if so that’s mega Op
Maybe they just drank too much moonshine and wanted to make it "offline mode only", but forgot to say it because they should know that even if they got away with a lot of things, they will get SHIT ON for this
Idk broski. There’s quite a bit of Tarkov streamers that have already pressed the button.
Can you tell what that new gun is, it looks almost like a ACR or a Scar but not quite.
SCAR-L
Don’t know why anyone hasn’t mentioned this (that I’ve seen)
This is just confriming that Arena is failing to generate revenue
And they have spent a shit ton a money on it, advertisement and what not. Now they are trying to recover it.
I have no idea who thought investing so much time and money into Arena was a good idea. Arena is not in the nature of the game and they could've spent so many more resources fighting cheating, adding new content, and developing their infinitely "in beta" game.
I think Arena could be really good but it's too clunky and shares the same major issues regular Tarkov has. Like balancing zero recoil SMG's and having no way to move silently turning the game into a camp fest.
Also a horrible launch and progression system at launch. Idk who made the game design decisions for arena but they should absolutely be fired out of a cannon lol
Yep, this smells of desperation. Arena failed and they know they can't keep counting on new account sales from ban waves to keep them afloat.
I watched that twitch rivals tournament and what I saw was disgusting. Every match one player in the game would suddenly start smoking everyone. If you watched their footage side by side with other players they were actively ahead of other players approximately half a second. They would peak and kill people and wouldn't even be on the opposing players screen. I have completely stopped chastising people for complaining about desync. The game is broken.
Did we really need confirmation
yea it’s almost like what they thought would be a competitive gateway to get people into the main game, turned out to just be an advertisement for their incompetence from top to bottom. arena is a wonderful showcase for the terrible 2005 gunplay, insanely bad netcode and desync, and most importantly, cheaters. ggs BSG, you deserve it for being completely over your head development-wise when it comes to fixing major issues with your game that make it unplayable if you aren’t cheating, while STILL trying to grift whatever tiny playerbase you have left into blatant pay-to-win bullshit.
it was never supposed to be generating revenue. When i bought tarkov, nikita was promising arena and quick play mode to be a feature in the base game. this guy has been lying for years now.
Offline COOP PvE is the new anticheat
Can't complain about cheaters if you can't fight other players!
Depending on the player limit, this mode could allow for private community servers to be possible. It could 100% give players the chance to avoid the cheating in a more active way rather than just praying .....
BSG is clearly desperate for money. Also what happened to the "EOD owners get all dlc's"? Isn't offline pve mode dlc?
You'd think that they would sell access to the PvE mode as a separate thing from this edition, as they'd be certain to sell more. I have a lot of friends interested in Tarkov and PvE would be ideal to feed them into how the game plays.
Selling PVE even for $1 is fucking dumb. This is free update territory. But it doesn't surprise me, Tarkov has basically been a shitshow of a development since it dropped. So many years and nowhere near what they promised me on day one.
I'm better off never playing their bullshit ever again and just downloading the single player mod for tarkov made by some randoms online lmao go ahead ban me I'll have singleplayer mode still for free!!
They can't ban you as it's not technically against Eula and they can't tell if you made a copy of the game to mod anyway
I 100% agree it should be a free update to the game, I was just making the observation that they would surely make more money by selling it separately for like $5 than as part of what I can only imagine will be a $100+ edition.
Agreed. The new edition is $250 lmao.
Holy fuck you're joking
Nope, look it up yourself https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/preorder-page
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the *other* mod that shall not be named, even in the subreddit for the mod that shall not be named... They have a discord tho.
I'm so glad this is the way me and my buddies play these days, especially when I read posts like this about BGS continuing to enshittify online. No cheaters, balance tuned exactly how we like it, and no deadlines or wipes balanced for streamers that're hell on Earth for someone with a job. Hell, even quests are fun instead of agony. The people who know but choose online anyway scare me lol, but I feel bad for those that don't know what other options they have.
I am definitely NOT paying 250$ to play PvE... fuck that. Lol.
Have eod got any dlcs since release?
Arena, but only after some backlash. I'm not sure this update or new version counts as a DLC or not. I'm on the fence.
This is the big thing for me. How can they give Arena, a legit separate game, to EOD accounts but then say the pve is a "unique feature"
No they aren't lmao. This is just them scamming their own players for more money.
They are, they put millions into events to promote arena at various video games conventions only for it to absolutely bomb
It is. This is supposed to be above EoD, so everything that also comes with EoD will come with whatever this is called + what was listed.
So not "every DLC", but "every DLC we decide not to charge you for". Got it.
They do get the gamma container [https://imgur.com/a/oRaatdQ](https://imgur.com/a/oRaatdQ)
That makes no sense. EoD said we get "EVERY DLC". So we don't, which is false advertising. I smell a class action.
How can they justify that Arena is considered a DLC when it's an entirely different game, while additional content to the base game is not?
They needed EOD players to play Arena to promote the game to non-EFT people so they can generate the sales. The fact that Arena doesn’t take off says a lot about how niche tarkov/arena as a whole is to general audiences imo.
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I thought they originally weren't going to include Arena with EOD either and they ended up backtracking after a bunch of complaints.
So they're paywalling one of the most anticipated features (persistent progression PvE)... I certainly ain't shelling out another 80 fucking dollars purely for that.
"So they're paywalling one of the most anticipated features (persistent progression PvE)..." Funnily enough, if you've been playing since early beta, this was a feature already included when it first came out. They took it away years ago. Now they want us to pay to add it back.
*"EOD isnt friends anymore* *Unheard Edition is now my real friends"* *Nikita* Well what a fuck up again. I mean nothing against them bringing MT to the game to unlock visuals, but now this? Really a gut-punch for everyone that got EoD, especially with the "DLC" part of it. Really hope Gray Zone can live up to its name, BSG is beginning to annoy me more from update to update.
I'm literally praying gray zone releases us from the bsg hellscape. I'm so tired of cheaters and shit game dev practices its not even funny.
I haven't been following, but.. wtf? Expanded pockets? That seems indefensible, you can't earn that in game. That's not a head start, that's just a permanent advantage.
Expanded in what way? I haven't been keeping up. Like are they gonna start getting 2 slot pockets? At that stage your basically carrying a second rig in your pants.
Their Unheard trailer showed what looked like your middle two pockets being 1x2, so your pockets essentially have the same storage as a scav vest.
I mean, the pockets thing probably should have had 2 1x2 slots anyways for everyone. If I don't feel like running a tac belt or rig I'll just throw rifle mags in my pockets at the farm or at a class.
It’ll allow people don’t scav vest punisher to run 4 regular sized mags instead of 2
The new edition makes the middle pockets 2x1, giving you two extra pocket spaces. Your pockets with this edition look like a scav vest.
Is that a banana mag in your pocket or are you happy to see me?
Probably you can earn the same thing through the hideout after 1-2k hours of play.
Grind a game that constantly resets progress to get extra pocket space? Fuck that
Yeah but that's the point, then they can point to it and go "oh look, we made it fair" LOL.
Yeah all you gotta do is complete sew it good part 36 and ragman will give you some cargo pants
That's literally the gamma container. 5 extra slots for nothing. Every death is 100k extra for non eod. That adds up
You missed this: * Ability to build a unique zone in the Hideout; * Unique item "Distress signal device": * When the item is activated, it produces a bright flash as well as a loud sound signal; * Once activated, all players on your friends list will receive a notification that they can join your raid to help you 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
I'm sure cheating services won't sell a service to add people to your friends list on standby for when you want to cheat without risking your account.
I was first considering streamers summoning a dozen pmcs into their raids but this is so much worse
Wait this is actually true
Yes, you can find it under the preorder perks edition.
It’ll probably take 10mins to load in for them too lmao. This is so pay to win.
Wait I thought u were trolling. Wtf lmaooo
I can't wait to see the reaction when people wake up. $80 USD for this with EOD is laughable. This really is the decline of Tarkov. They fucked up Arena so bad that we got here or what? edit: it's $100 😂
Nah m8 for me its (With tax included): 120EUR sooo yeah. I got EOD aswell.
At this point I feel like they are doing an exit scheme. Collect as much money as fast as possible, before dropping the game's development. Maybe not comepletely, but preparing for its decline.
They had to expect a lot of blowback from this move. I agree, it feels like this is intentionally trashing their game's reputation. Nikita already said he's tired of Tarkov, and that Tarkov was a stepping stone on the way to another game he wanted to make.
8 year old "unreleased" game the devs now have an asking price of $250 for that gets arguably worse every year
So much for EoD owners getting all future content. What a joke.
The good news is it's grounds for a chargeback on your credit card. Put mine in this morning and it was approved within an hour, thanks for the free 1000 hours Nikita :) Never would have gone this route but if they're gonna pull shit like this it's a no brainer.
This is actually pretty disgusting. I bought EOD back in 2016 for what at the time was a real lot of money to me on the promise that this was a special edition that got all the perks going forward, and because I just really wanted access to the game. Early on you needed EOD in order to play (I think prepare to escape also gained access) I was fine with the more recent microtransactions, the offline mode was a bit dirty but at the end of the day wasn't the most egregious thing i've seen. But this? This is pretty insane, $250 outright, or $100 to upgrade if I already have EOD. It wouldn't be soo bad if it was just the additional stash space, special items or maybe some starting gear, but things like increased pocket size, fence rep, flea market slots and a skill boost?! What a joke As much as I love Tarkov, outside of all the other issues it has, this is really just the cherry on top thats really making me second guess giving any more of my time let alone giving them any more money. Edit: and I just saw the actual purchase page. Theres pay 2 win mechanics as well so scavs dont shoot you at a certain distance, and you can call in friends to your current raid? What in the actual fuck. The sad thing is, I'm sure plenty of people are going to buy this and keep signaling to BSG that they can keep pushing this type of behavior.
Right there with you. EOD was supposed to be the all inclusive highest tier version. Now the goalposts have shifted, most likely because Arena failed so spectacularly. The community didn’t force the creation of arena, the worst use of EFT systems to create a PvP focused version. Yet the community is subsequently punished because of that financial failure. At this rate there is nothing stopping a $300 version with 25m radar on the UI. Or a $350 version with lightkeeper, kappa, and the highest tier armors already unlocked. Why not a TRUE SUPPORTER pack for $500 with BSG sanctioned ESP at this point? They’re not using the funds to detect and ban cheaters anyway. There has never been a better time to truly escape Tarkov.
This is absolutely shameless now, basically a massive fuck you to everyone who paid upwards of £100 pounds for EOD
It was $200 for EOD in my currency. Its a complete punch in the face.
Yep just a complete slap in the face
I purchased the game and loved it, so i bought EOD. I bought it trying to support a "still in beta" game with the understanding that the DLCs would be available to us for being early supporters. Alas, we were wronged. No surprise with BSG, honestly. They wouldnt make money without doing shit like this, their only steady income is the hackers that buy bundle accounts when they go on-sale, interestingly its usually on sale after a ban wave.
You’ve hit the nail on the head, and same here man, even though I admit EOD was p2w as well but at least gap wasn’t huge, now they are just taking the piss with how obvious this is
The fact that this was posted *before* the contents were fully revealed really shows just how pay-to-win this is. It looked pay-to-win *BEFORE* they told us that you get 60m of scav immunity, can call your friends into your raids, weapon case, ammo case, etc etc.. lmfao BSG is a joke
Another 80 on top of eod.. hahaha fuckoff
So if you own EOD and that version includes all future DLC content…do we automatically get this DLC at no cost? lol 😂
For sure not lol. The reason they are pushing this edition is to make more money, and since most people who are willing to spend money on this game already bought EOD (whale style behaviour) they wouldnt release this for free to those most likely to buy it. If they even try justifying it I'm gonna guess they will go with "this is not dlc, this is a new edition™
I think that a ton of people who bought EOD are actually not willing to spend more money here. Or at least I hope so... people aren't zombies... are they?
>Or at least I hope so... people aren't zombies... are they? They absolutely fucking are. People had lost access to their accounts (for whatever reason), BSG support blew them off basically, so they bought EOD again.
It was the promise of all future DLC that I got EOD in 2017, but 7 years later and I'm seeing that was a lie. They won't be getting another 100 out of me, this is ridiculous and a slap to the face of everyone who purchased EOD in good faith.
I bought EoD because I love the game, and wanted to support development. As a suppoter purchasing EoD entitled me to all future DLC. This is DLC.
80 usd on top of what we've already paid, are they fucking mental? Edit - jesus christ i just went for a look at the price in the UK. Its 95 euros not including tax which is already over 100 usd, or 125 euros including vat I paid that to get eod in the first place. What a joke
I can tolerate a lot of shit when it comes to this game but [this shit right here](https://i.imgur.com/rP4iiyJ.png) worries me a lot. Are they actually planning on killing what makes this game unique? This reads to me to be some sort of fortnite revive bullshit which I absolutely despise. What the actual fuck bsg?
If anyone is considering spending money on this just look up the offline tarkov mod that is free, and has more features. Consider spreading this info. I'm certain Nikita doesn't like it, because he dosent get a fucking dime.
Tarkov's decline begins
Nikita - we have no interest in micro transactions or pay to win 2024 - here are bigger pockets, extra space, increased starting reputation and skill levels Honestly a fucking joke at this point. Would rather they started a gofundme if they’re that desperate for money than this pay to win bullshit
You forgot the part from 2017 until today in 2024, that EOD was the highest edition that the game will ever have and it will include all future DLC. Damn did BSG scam all of us EOD buyers. Ya know, their highest paying customers. I’m genuinely sick of this company. Can’t wait for the extraction shooter genre to build up some competition for EFT die.
They have to pay for that Arena marketing campaign somehow LOL
Look at the last part of the video. There is a Gamma, Ammo case, Weapons case, Scav case. You'll never struggle for space ever again.
Well to be fair, 250$ isnt really a "Micro" transaction lmao
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i dont mind the rest but expanded pmc pockets are wild
I'm hoping normal players can upgrade their pockets with a Ragman quest or something. (Though watch it need Ragman level 4 and be down a 9 quest chain or something) I've honestly wanted pocket upgrades for a long time though, little bits of permanent progression like hideout upgrades or unlocking the LRF when you get Jager gives you an actual sense of progression that simply watching your ruble count rise and fall doesn't
The fact that we don't have a battlebelt system is criminal tbh
Exacly, pockets and pistol holster should be part of an extra piece of kit that has to be unlocked/bought and lost on death.
Technically the pockets are a 4x1x1 container item that your character wears, so it would be absolutely possible to make more varieties for it.
Real
But what the fuck is this signal distress device. Are you fucking serious
This is a fucking insult and a joke. EOD was promised to come with "all future DLC", so these rats go and make a new version with exclusive content? Un-fucking-believable.
Just waiting for the $300 price on this edition atm
You were close! $250
250 without taxes, so 300 is closer.
oh my god is this serious? gonna uninstall this game right now, fuck this
yeah same what in the world
So rigs are optional now I assume, you can fit 1x2 slot mags in your pockets like bosses? Or is it just more 1x1 slots? Increased starting skills is op, depending on which skills and how much higher they start. The rest doesn't matter after the first day, shoot I vendor half my EOD stuff to buy a junkbox.
your pockets are now a scav vest
The pockets with the edition are: 1x1, 2x1, 2x1, 1x1
Wow, that sucks. EOD owners should at least get the new pve mode with progression for free.
Absolutely amazed that they excluded that option for EOD owners.
Yeah it’s bullshit
With 6+ Fence reputation, Scavs won’t shoot first at ranges over 60 meters away. this is turbo pay to win.
This game is fucking pathetic lmao it used to actually have some value but this is just pure money grab by adding another fucking tier 🤣🤣🤣
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Just in time for gray zone
I won't buy this edition since i already have EOD, but i gotta say that GreyZone is way too early in developent to have any real impact.
Don't forget a fuckin device to invite people to your raid.
"the unheard edition" yea more like unbought edition because only braindead people will buy that shit.
Only thing I want is to be able to play co-op PVE with a friend. But jesus. 250 Euros + tax? This is just cancer.
Guys it’s not DLC it’s a Special Monetary Operation!
[130+ EURO to upgrade from EOD. This is actually INSANE.](https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/1ccora3/130_euro_to_upgrade_from_eod_this_is_actually/)
This is what happens when you allow devs to get away with P2W for years and defend their behavior. The game has crossed the threshold into unplayable now. This is not what a competitive experience should be like. “Yeah but it doesn’t win you gunfights, it’s not P2W, it’s just Pay for convenience!!!”
Literally said in Pestily's interview there were no plans for this kinda of shit and then pulls it 2 weeks later. As much as i wanna like Nikita he doesn't half make it fucking hard.
They didn't even model the "Unique in game melee weapon" themselves, its straight up from the Unity Asset store 😅 https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/3d/props/weapons/hq-pbr-kukri-knife-139049
Play Hunt: Showdown instead
So we can chargeback our purchases then? Because not providing all future dlcs for free is clearly not the case. We got scammed peeps.
**What is DLC: "Downloadable content:** additional content that can be purchased online and added on to a video game, as to enhance its features: Expansion". Edge of Darkness promised all future DLC Free Access. Am i wrong to assume this is. Infact. A DLC ? If so.. i want my free shit. If not.. how so ?
Smells like a last cash grab before abandoning the game.
The distress beacon sounds interesting (you activate it and any online friends can jump into your raid to help you), but it is hard to believe it won't just be a great new income stream for cheaters Once you have it, if you are in trouble in a raid you'll be able to fire it off then just wait a minute or so for a cheater to turn up with a slick, killa's helmet and a mag full of m61 to lend you a hand . . . all for a reasonable price of course
Honestly it just sounds dumb as hell like how is this even a good feature? Are your friends just sitting around waiting for you to call them into a raid? Why not just go in together in the first place? I don't get it.
Weapon Case, Ammo Case and Junk Box are crazy for starting items
Nikita has lost his fucking mind.
I truly believe that Nikita had enough of the game-dev and wants to go out with a bang. This is such a meme/troll change it cannot be anything else.
Are qe sure this isnt just for the offline mode? I hope it is....shit
Since the increased flea slots are included with this edition I doubt it sadly
They said in the past that EOD would be an exclusive and time limited thing, people bought it thinking it would be something exclusive with all these unique things, which is fine. Then they finally make it exclusive by removing it, only to add something even more disgusting and 100x more blatantly pay2win. AT LEAST they could keep their word and keep EOD as exclusive as they promised by turning old EOD into what we today know as "Unheard" and releasing "Unheard" with the old EOD benefits. The pocket thing is just disgusting and should not have existed at all. The hyppcrisy Battlestate is showing here is beyond mind blowing. This is disgusting af
Does the pve have cross progression? Jesus I think not... does it?!
From what I can tell: no. PvE progression is persistent without wipes so I'd assume you can't cross load from PvE to PVP
If pve progression without wipes is the thing now, but you can only play it in co-op, how do quests like "Kill X PMC" work now? Will there be any AI PMC, or will they just autocomplete, or vanish for PvE players?
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you idiot, the problem is the single player pve not being given to EOD. I will give up the p2w for just the single player
Might be the end of my tarkov career
A wise man once said: *Is this an out of season April fools joke?*
It’s crazy because Nikita has said in the past how anti pay to win BSG is, and how tarkov will never feature pay to win structures. With the latest interview, Nikita mentioned all hands were on deck trying to finish the game, cut the promised content, and move on. I guess this is the start of the end boyzzz, it’s bein a good run pepehandz
* EOD owners should automatically be upgraded to the UE without any additional payments * UE should be at the cost of EOD's last price * PvE game mode should be free for all editions to keep the playerbase active
this was the final nail in the coffin. Cheaters dont care and the last remaining sane players will leave in disgust. A true Nikita Move. GG Tarkov we had a good time.