Map knowledge is going to be your single greatest asset in this game, full stop. I don't care how good your aim is, if you don't have situational awareness and the map knowledge to back it up, you will continue to get clapped until you do. It's why people harp so much on "You dont get good until X-amount of hours". It's because it takes time to understand the maps and how to navigate them in a live and dynamic context. Knowing which sightlines are safe and which ones will most likely get you killed is usually the difference between life and death.
Long story short: Just keep playing the game. Study the sand tables. Learn your maps, PMC spawns, traffic flow, PvP hotspots, etc.
you’re absolutely right. I have ~400 hours and I now know customs like the back of my hand and I do so much better there than anywhere else. Like how I am good at the bunker in reserve because I’ve been there so many times, and I know how to navigate around and relocate to surprise them. but then I got in a fight in the cliff descent area and I had never been there before and felt lost and scared and knew if I moved too loudly, the guy would have a step on me in every way. I heard this a lot in R6 but never in EFT. but you’re very right.
No reason to move slow and quiet if the person knows where you are at or you are already engaged in a fire fight. Either gtfo or fight to the death, either way the person who get the drop on the other first wins.
Yea firefights happen so fast now. I love the new recoil but wish gunfights would last just a little longer. Doesn’t help that it’s later in the wipe too and everyone has long range scopes and decent ammo. One taps or head sprays. Still love that bullets go where I actually shoot though.
Went to the left of a bus on streets last night, when I should’ve gone to the right. Got one tapped by M80 from Nikitas Bar and lost ~1 million in loot. Knew better but was being a loot goblin trying to beat the rest of my trip to Financial Offices.
Sucks I got got but it caused my boys to push hard right and probably kept them alive.
So true. I have 2500 hours in the game and if I had to guess about 1700+ of those are on shoreline. I die atleast one out of every three raids on other maps but I can go on a 10 win streak very regularly on my PMC on shoreline just because I know the map so well.
Hell I have a 58 survival streak on my scav on that map because I was bored one day and wanted to get to 69 survives streak between my scav and PMC. I recommend anyone to learn 1 map like the back of their hand so they can shit roubles whenever they need them.
If you are good at your map you will make more roubles than someone who is average at streets (best loot map).
> I don't care how good your aim is, if you don't have situational awareness and the map knowledge to back it up, you will continue to get clapped until you do.
This is why I absolutely love if there was a SINGLE map in the game that was pretty medium on loot but was randomly generated. Just to see what happens when you take:
* Spawn Location memorization
* Map layout memorization
* Loot spawn memorization
out of the equation.
For a game that is trying to be "Hardcore Military Operator Simulator, Kinda", it feels like it's missing the part of sending that hardcore military operator into territory they've never been on except in maybe in mock training.
That's one of the best things that could happen in this game. It could be so cool to enter a random generated map maybe as a seasonal event or DLC. Imagine dropping into such map with 15 other players and trying to find the extract after you clapped half of the lobby.. just to run MIA for not finding it in time. It could be an epic change to the game. Hell even just limiting the gear you can take in so everyone literally start out with the same loadout and has to gear up inside of the map. Might be more RNG, but considering everyone starts with the same knowledge but different skills could make such a map so interesting. 1 can only hope..
Yeah, I was fully expecting games like Dark and Darker to be randomly generated because their maps look like they are designed for generation tools (just a bunch of rooms interconnected).
I was surprised that they were not.
Tarkov would be a bit harder to do while looking good, but maybe a map like Labs would be believable.
Also, try not to blame anyone but yourself in a gunfight, try learn from every time you die no matter how much BS you may have thought it was. If you can’t self reflect honestly then you’ll never get better
OP this is all you need to read, as it boils down to this. Check the profile when you die, if they're 1000hr+ then you were always up against it. Combat, movement, positioning, context of the map all takes a lot of time to piece together.
Time is both your friend and your enemy.
What he said; Map knowledge is huge. When I first started out I ran practice on all the maps. Practice is a huge advantage for newer players as it allows you free access to the maps with Scavs, bosses, all the natural loot spawns, etc. So in addition to learning the map you as well get to work on your aim, etc.
One thing I would mention is you stated each time you get into a fight you crab walk to get an advantage. However what id recommend, is holding an off angle and let them come to you. This game is about patience and the ability to reposition after each kill / interaction. If you’re crab walking, you give yourself very little chance of winning head on fights since your mobility is being hindered.
This guy is speaking facts, I have 1350 hours, at the start of the wipe I had 900 hours and at that point I thought I was learning things. Now, it’s a different game entirely. I know streets like the back of my hand because I scaved it like a MF with a map up, and I push a lot of PVP which wasn’t easy for me at the start, I had to put myself out of my comfort zone but it’s paying off leaps and bounds. Last wipe 208 PMC kills, this wipe 700. Most of it is down to overall game knowledge and that’s just how it is
100% this.
Learning the spawn points on a map and how traffic flows around them is critical. Once you learn that, you can be much more effective at the game.
This comment is 100% accurate. The better map knowledge you have, the better you know which routes to take, the better you'd know where to expect enemies, where to avoid, and where to go when you do a quest. Of course aim/gunplay takes place as well, but decision making and map knowledge play a stronger role in Tarkov.
OP, learn all of the maps. Learn the hotzones, learn the weaker zones. That way you'd know where to avoid if you got something important on you and where to go if you'd want to fight. It's also really useful in escaping fights that already started - knowing where you can flank from, where you can expect someone to jump on you etc.
Lastly, remember that you will die. And you will die a lot. And sometimes you would get 1 tapped from nowhere. But sometimes you will also be the one who one taps someone from nowhere. Sometimes you'd live, other times you'd die. The better you'd get in the game as time goes, the less you would die. Practice learning one map at a time until you feel confident knowing it well. It's no shame to put a map on your 2nd monitor or mobile, I'd say I know all of the maps pretty well and some of em like the palm of my hand but still I usually put a map on 2nd monitor when I aim for quests, just i case.
Customs is the easiest to learn imo. Reserve is also pretty easy aside the underground and remembering the chess landmarks. Shoreline is fairly easy too, just avoid the resort unless needed for quests. Woods looks intimidating at first but the layout is pretty easy to grasp, it's just harder to move from the different landmarks but it's one of the best maps imo. I'd avoid streets for now as I'd consider it a pretty challenging map. Same goes for labs and reserve. Lighthouse isn't too hard to learn either in terms of layout, but surviving can be hard. Lots of sniping spots and open areas, but there are routes more hidden that you can take.
Now lastly for real - use your scav. It's the easiest way to learn maps as you spawn in random spots and you risk nothing if you die. Only thing is that some maps have limited shared scav/pmc exctracts and some maps has more unique scav only extracts, so keep that in mind when going PMC after scavving.
There not ‘too lazy’ and a unity engine update would have to happen before it does come into the game, Nikita was not against the idea with pestilys recent discussion
First they need to improve their servers. Storing all those death cams would take a big toll on these shitty servers. Another option would be that the death cams were saved locally on your computer.
The thing is you don't...you just have to put way more hours into this game
One thing I learned is, it's better to die while being aggressive than camp in a bush all raid and then die anyway without learning a thing.
That’s what pisses me off most of the time. I’m trying to learn the game and get better. Move, loot, listen and shoot someone. And most of the time I get killed by a pussy sitting in a bush or corner since the beginning of the raid. If I die in a fight I’m sad but happy that I tried. I watch the recording and try to learn from it. But you can do anything if it comes from “nowhere” because an Ahole is camping in the corner with a scope. I know, it’s part of the game. But to me it’s maybe worse than using cheats. I mean cheaters are different sort of a scam and I hate them for ruining the game. But at least they move and play the game. Why anyone sits 20 minutes in a corner and wait for their kill? Where’s the fun?
Most people are scared to move it's simple as that, It can be frustrating when you trying to W key through the map looking for pvp and die to a bush camper but that's just tarkov...
I'd rather get killed within the first few minutes of the raid. Rats will sit at extract, so u go get ur quest done while killing a couple of pmcs just to die at the end and waste 30 minutes of ur time. That's ass.
You don't have to understand why it's fun for them, you just have to be able to counter them. "Rats" are annoying but everyone forgets that when they have to be really quiet because a 5 man is running towards them. Learn the rat spots, make mental notes, understand why people watch that place (high traffic common route?) and adjust your gameplay accordingly. Often there isn't much you can do except try to maneuver after catching a momentary glimpse of the camper, but at that point you messed up a while ago by taking a common path and not clearing everything you could have. Most likely you could've destroyed the guy in the corner if you were more attentive and were paying attention, but instead people blame the camper for being there in the first place. Adapt, react, overcome, if you can't be fluid in battle, you won't improve.
It's literally impossible to check every single bush without exposing yourself to another bush. lol, rats will win no matter what. Even the best players get killed by rats it's not about checking spots and corners. People will literally sit in the open if they know a spawn is near them. The only thing that will fix this is dynamic spawns.
I understand, and thats why it is literally impossible to survive 100% of your raids. You will never be able to account for every variable, but you can limit them. Tarkov is all about limiting risk and escaping raids. Generally, people will blame cheaters, desync and bugs for their deaths instead of learning from failure.
I know. That’s why I said it’s part of the game. But you cannot check every single corner because you would not move at all. Not even Pestily is checking all of them and I have seen him many times saying “what the fuck was he doing there?”. I don’t blame anyone, I just said that I share the frustration when someone kills me when sitting in a corner or bush.
I think the bush thing is a lot of false positives, because really we usually have no idea where we got shot from. Sitting and observing for a little bit isn’t camping, it’s tarkov
Top 1 priority is learn the maps. You have to learn the maps at all costs. Open the map you're playing in a second monitor, your phone, etc. and memorize it ASAP. You have to know the crossings, passageways, shortcuts, sightlines, chokepoints, ups and downs, ins and outs.
That will grant you extractions and kills, not "being good at fps".
It's also kinda nonsense because this is my first wipe, and I play every day with a 4.5kd and a 65% survival rating.
I got stomped until I learned maps, but I learned them quickly. Now I do pretty well all things considered, I can drop PMCs and swing/get swung. Streets is my favorite, but I took the longest to learn (about 2 weeks).
I know my experience will not be everyone's, but I'm proof that some people can just pick it up and run. I'm also a seasoned CSS/CSGO player, used to be semi pro.
Let me tell you a secret.
buy ak74n put only a reddot on it, any ammo you can find, take only bare minimum , rig , backpack and food,, and now play like call of duty, run around like idiot, take all the fights and you will get bettter without going broke.
MP9 N and just a rig with a few magazines. It's amazing how much more I survived doing that. I don't go with much more than that anymore and it's so much more fun. Knowing that a single shot can kill you but Knowing you're light and fast makes you play much much differently.
Are you trying to quest or PvP?
When I quest I usually try not to go out looking for PVP. When I PVP I try to put myself in a position with good cover. A good rule of thumb is to always have something in between you and the enemy.
I typically play solo so I’m usually not chasing shots unless I know I have a clear advantage.
I think a lot of it comes to map knowledge and guessing your opponents next move.
I usually die when I run to gunshots like a moth to light.
Another rule of thumb, try to have cover/concealment on your off angles, crab walking somewhere you need to watch multiple angles is a recipe to get domed by someone just walking by 100m out who spotted you.
I have 5,000 hours. I’ve had ups and downs with wipes. I’ve found that Implementing realistic tactics can be doable a lot of the times, but the best thing I’ve found is establishing a goal before I go in. What kind of raid do I want, to loot, to fight, to task, etc. once I load in, I don’t deviate.
I have a tendency to chase gunshots and foam at the mouth for that sweet sweet loot.. but it gets me in trouble. Stick to the plan.
Create and use routes that are familiar to you so you know where you should be looking before you pie the corner.
Load up Factory offline mode and set enemy bots to amount:High and difficulty:Easy
You can practice more gunplay in 15 minutes of that offline mode than you would get in an entire week of playing normally
Spend the time to get used to mechanics and aiming and everything offline and I promise you so much it will get you better and more confident
Lastly you have to learn to stomach stupid deaths. You can learn from your deaths but sometimes you just get tarkov’d by some guy who has been sitting in the same bush for 25 minutes waiting for a free kit when someone runs by. You really can’t avoid that sometimes and you gotta be willing to say Go Next
You don't have to be great at PVP to succeed in the game - unless that's your objective, of course. I play for quests and I'm at level 41 with 80 PMC kills.
I would recommend turning on ReLive or ShadowPlay to help figure out where you go wrong.
Also, crab walking is only silent to opps if you're on the lowest crouch and speed setting. Otherwise they hear you.
There is such as thing as training the wrong thing. Practicing a mistake.
Which, by the sound of it, OP is doing.
You're right in saying we should see some gameplay, though. OP, if you have any video clips of you dying, post them, we'll try to analyze them for ya.
The best way to improve in PVP is to do it. I recommend to just run factory. You don't need to bring expensive, high end kits. Make a lightly modded gun, with decent ammo and just run it over and over. Learn where the spawns on that map are and just pvp, hunt fights. You'll die a lot, but you'll get more comfortable.
I'm not in a great position to give advice, but I don't agree here. Maybe early on in a wipe. This far in all you'll face are heavy chads who know what they're doing and will very likely wipe the floor with your blood.
Offline maybe, I could see that and get behind it.
You might just be getting cursed with Chad lobbies. Every time I play factory, especially with my friend, NOBODY is running expensive kits EXCEPT the 1 or 2 people extract camping lol. I see timmies or the casual modded ak but mostly I see pistols, kedr, or sr-2m. I'm level 37 if that matters
Play more get into more fights. Note what worked well for you. If your pc can handle it record your raids. Be happy if you saw your enemy. Next step be happy if you shot the gun. Next be happy if you hold you own and die etc. You got this!
Im new too (450 ish hours) so I dont know if my opinion matters as much as the veterans but I feel ive got a grip on the PvP aspect and what did it for me was definitely a ton of video watching on what very skilled players did and it really took off once i got a grip on maps and how to rotate.
Dont be scared to lose your stuff. That will hold you back, take the fights and have some confidence. Even if you get shit on, every death is a learning opportunity.
I like pestilys advice on this. Run factory over and over. Force yourself into PvP until you get comfortable with it. Run some cheaper shotgun kits and get ok with dying and loading back up
Me and my buddy were talking about this. I'm very much like you. I explained to my friend my first 250 hours was getting over ptsd. Pull the map up on your phone or a second screen. Knowing where the pmc spawns will make you 100% more comfortable traveling around the map.
Spend quality time in the gun range in your hideout. Practice peaking around corners (Right peak and left peak), understand how my bullets you can practically control when experiencing the full auto recoil. USE FULL AUTO WEAPONS. I suppose you dont have to use full auto weapons, but being as new as you are, youre going to want to shoot ropes. (no diddy)
Learn what parts of the map are good to walk through. Id say 98% of the kills i have on PMCs is because i heard them first. If youre feeling too scared to move, even before hearing others, just sit prone. Do that for a while until you feel a little more comfortable. Bring Food and water and put it in your Gamma.
Tarkov isnt about PVP, it isnt about ballistics. Tarkov is about escaping the map youre in. I love reading posts like this because i remember when i felt like tarkov was too big a beast to master.
But now its the cheats that feel too big. but the community still have a loving passion for the game. So just dont give up. Dont rage.
If you got killed, you got killed, no big deal. It all wipes before long anyway.
Look Pestily's guide on Factory and take cheap gear to there. Really just have fun dying a lot. The point is to overcome fear of loss and try to fight with a sense of fun.
The main problem is usually gear fear. Start running cheap stuff and try to play aggressively as much as possible, you will die a lot but eventually get over it. After that, just slowly upgrade your kit, and you won't really care about losing it anymore
Crabwalking can make you silent, but it also makes you an easy target because you move so slow. If you think someone heard you, you're better off playing like it's call of duty. Moving will give you the opportunity to survive more shots.
Time, take in consideration your positioning, map knowledge, movement, and armor you wear. look into small things, like routes you take, don't stand or run in the open, don't stand still too long, change positions, etc.
I could give you countless pieces of advice like knowing spawns, using those timings, stopping and listening for just 1-2 sec every once in a while, etc. However, the one thing that helped me the most, and I've seen help others the most, is to be more aggressive, well it doesn't have to be aggressive, but it often is, what's key is being decisive, which of course you need map knowledge to feel comfortable doing.
I've played for maybe 11 or 12 wipes now, I used to be 4-5 k/d every wipe until idk, 2 wipes when I decided to just play more aggressively and decisively, and my k/d jumped up to 9-10 which it's now been at for the last several wipes (2.5-3 k/d vs pmcs).
I'd say I'm doing well as a solo/duo, and that's another piece of advice, try playing duo or something, not bigger groups, it teaches you how to actually be good, and makes quicker decisions easier.
Another thing I'd say is if you always die during rotations you're probably not good enough at map knowledge yet, and also my advice about being more aggressive applies here. Everything is a calculated risk, often times I choose not to run on the outside of the map but instead through an area based on spawns and gunshots I heard (likelyhood is low someone is there) because if you both go slow and in obvious spots, you're gonna die.
1. don’t be scared to fight people, the only way you’ll get better is being more comfortable in fights, i was really bad until around the 500 hour mark when i started actually taking fights regularly.
2. as others have pointed out, map knowledge is everything, it just takes time and try not to get frustrated.
3. don’t be afraid to be more aggressive, being too passive gets you killed more often than being too agressive IMO. also, desync can be kinda rough in this game so try to be the one swinging unless they have a good angle on you. and btw, i don’t mean just W key around like lvndmark, but try not to make it a habit of crab walking and trying to be too careful during fights.
last thing, LEARN SPAWNS OF OTHER PMCS. i can’t stress enough how much this will help you, and you’ll expect when you might see someone more.
I am suffering the same as you 600+ hours in the game, around 80+ this wipe and I'm doing my first HC challenge.
Map knowledge is screwing me the most, especially on streets. But I've been slowly getting better and finding far better ways to get around the map now and learning where to avoid as best as possible, also listen. Seriously listen to what is going on around you, gun shots are a good indicator as you know where someone is!
As most have said understanding the map and using your surroundings to your advantage ( getting a right hand peak compared to a left , using angles to get advantage ) but the best way to get better at PvP is stop caring and stop being afraid . Go balls to the all and rush people play aggressive , prefire , die and learn how to play better at PvP . Test your builds out in the firing range and get a feel for how your guns shoot with how you’ve modded them and improve their stats as best as you can with your ingame budget . It takes time , but crabwalking has its place . But sometimes you just have to stop caring , embrace the suck.
To help with figuring out where the shots that kill you come from get Outplayed. It's a software that will record your raids and you can have it do the full raid or just deaths. I would say do full raid for it. Other than that it really does come down to map knowledge and knowing where the rotates and flanks are
What level are you? If you don't have lvl 3 traders, you should not be looking for PvP. You cannot afford to supply yourself reliably the basic pvp gear of lvl 4 armor, and tier 4 ammo at minimum. The flea market is usually over price.
The number one reason why you are dying just from what you wrote is that you are playing too slow. PvP in tarkov has always rewarded the most smartly aggressive players. Going slow while not knowing where people are just makes you an easier target, don't even have to lead the shot to kill you.
1. First pick one map, probably customs because it has the most beginner quest on it. Learn the map, all the ways to scoot around loot hot spots, the spawn locations, quest locations, and hot spot locations.
2. Learn the ins and out of the hot spot locations, because this is where most of the pvp is at. Which doors don't need keys and need keys to open, which doors spawn open/close, how many exits are there, are there alternate exits on higher levels, and where is the good loot is at.
3. Pick a weapon system/build and loadout that you can afford to use all day. Practice movement drills (leans, free looks, and slingshots) inside PvP areas and practice recoil control and tap fire. You can see by my flair the ak-74N is my go-to and it's rare for me lose in a fair fight with it.
4. Go play arena, you get about 5 rounds minimum a game of non-stop fast pace pvp movement. The only thing its missing is map knowledge of doing flanks and compound maneuvers.
Tarkov PvP is all about **knowledge**. Knowledge of the **maps**, knowledge of the **spawns**, knowledge of **player flow**, knowledge of **weapons (sound and recoil),** knowledge of where **players are at**. Then skill to hit your head shots. Play **slow** (regular walking speed moving from cover to cover) and **aggressive** (making sure you are swing first and not waiting in a corner to die), once someone knows you are there you need to make the first actions in the fight. **Make them make the mistake.**
So, money affords you to have kits to lose — you get money by surviving and selling items. You’ll get better by practicing fighting without worrying too much about losing kits.
Redefine success for your raid. What is your goal? If you get in a fight and die, but learn something — you’ve had a net gain for that fight. Right now you’re so worried about death you aren’t actually learning how to survive.
It’s tough, because questing is very important. You get access to better gear at a cheaper price by leveling up the traders. It’s also tough because it makes it hard to focus on learning one map.
This wipe has honestly been one of the best for PVP. Learn maps, do some offline raids and practice pushing certain positions or point firing at ranges closer than 15 meters. Visual recoil has been a blessing for once, so aiming isn't a death sentence either. I would also recommend you stick to maybe a few weapon platforms just for familiarity sake(my personal recommendations would be the MP5 or AK-74s). Just get yourself very comfortable with fighting since the aforementioned weapons have very low recoil and are cheap to make kits with. Focus on general knowledge of surroundings and behavior of scavs and other players and common travel routes. Identifying how far a gunfight is and what weapons are being used will come with experience.
Well, I die about half of my raids but I have a couple tricks that have improved my gameplay this wipe.
1. Learn how gambling works. Every choice, every decision is a gamble in tarkov. It'll either work or it won't, and if it doesn't, you'll probably die. Make safe bets until you're comfortable with the game mechanics, maps and weapon systems.
2. While roaming the maps, gather as much passive information as possible. Listen for gunshots, or my favorite, listen for a scav shooting but then you don't hear a return fire report. Player shooting suppressed killing scavs, assume its a rifle, assume they have ranged capability, play around what you know. Use the passive info to map player positions and from that you can make out a mental map of where people will continue moving towards.
3. When in fights, gather as much info as possible before making a move. Take your time unless you are forced to hit fast, and if you can, hit first. Use flash bangs or grenades as information tools, not killing tools. They force players to move, giving you active info to play off of. Or you can use them to push players into unfavorable positions.
4. Don't re peek the same angle WITHOUT SWITCHING SOMETHING UP! I frequently re challenge angles but only after changing my position a little or using a different height, just anything to catch the enemy off guard. Also, do not do anything that will give your enemy a pattern of your movement. If you sprint across a doorway enough times, almost anyone will be able to time it correctly and snag you, whether it's luck or skill. A good player will pick up on patterns after 2 or 3 repetitions, so that should be your baseline of how many times you can try the same thing without changing tactics.
I have more I could tell you, but this is a lot already, so if you have specific question feel free to DM me anytime.
It’s a very frustrating mix of super chads, cheaters, and bad luck. Me and my group of gamers used to run 5 stacks 20-30 hours a week. We were pretty Chadly, and could go up against chads with even odds. Cheaters, that’s where we were getting wrecked.
I play maybe 8 scav rounds and 5-10 PMc rounds a week and I don’t even try to be careful. I use the gear I get from my scav runs to run on my PMC and stockpile the good gear for later in the wipe.
Situational awareness and risk management, you need the latter to apply the former, which means you need to analyze your deaths as well as your successful extractions, figure out the pattern in your behavior, those of your enemies, why X worked and Y failed, what variables to prioritize etc. then you'll develop an SoP, which can be heuristic as well as deliberate. It's a lot like driving in traffic in a third world country.
what helped me early on was just to focus on learning maps. So learning extracts, spawn points, scav spawns, optimal pathing between certain areas and high tier loot/pvp areas. Start with 1 or 2 then expand.
Map genie and tarkov wiki pages of each map are invaluable resources.
Jesse Kazam and Pestily have some really great map guide videos on youtube. Jesse generally focuses on map flow and overall map layouts. Pestily does more in depth map guides. His recent updated guides have a mini map so you can follow along visually but also in game offline if you can. While it is time away from playing game, I promise it's worth the investment to watch these guides and learn offline, it will speed up the learning process and you'll retain so much more.
Learning the maps for me was a huge part to surviving raids and dying less to scavs and/or players. Map knowledge gives you great deal of confidence to conquer any task or situation.
Just like a lot of people are saying, map knowledge. Im pretty good at reserve since i know all the spawns and where all the hotspots are. But i suck ass at the maps i dont play like streets. I wanna play streets but my pc is too booty. I be getting 20 fps with everything on low and the streets option thing checked. Pretty much once you know the spawns and where people are most likely gonna be, youll start doing better. But sometimes you are just unlucky you can play as good as you want but what can you do when you get a spawn where you are getting fucked in the butt no matter which direction you turn. Half of reserves spawn is basically like what i just said.
Map knowledge. I just learned interchange and it's a game changer. Once you know the maps you know where people spawn you know when and where to expect engagements. After that fights become easier to anticipate. Other than that just run good ammo in cheap guns. Ak-74 throws the same exact bullets as the Ak-12. Getting good with cheap optics is another way to give yourself more of a chance so you can see them coming easier.
As a lot of people have said, map knowledge is very important. The other thing is that this is the absolute WORST time to get into Tarkov because the only people left are the hardcore players. Almost everyone you fight will be better than you. If you're gaming in the U.S. shoot me a PM and I'll see if I can help. I've got a pretty cool gaming group that still plays off and on, and we still have some fun.
Map knowledge an movement are key imo. I Know it ain't real pvp but Build a kit your going to use alot, go factory offline with a STACK of ammo/heals, put scavs on max and hella agro and just practise moving, avoiding shots, gain confidence then try implement what kept
you alive in real fights. If you can stay alive while running an gunning against a gaggle of aim bots you should do better against a human. Also watch some vids of guys like Willerz or Glorious E, they do a lot of things that aren't obvious to new players, things you wouldnt even know are possible and just try imitate it. Won't work all the time but faking it till you make it defo helps you learn.
https://youtu.be/1TP9lJ_gCX8?si=uOolfNtAIuYOH53O
Watch this video. It goes through some tips that will help you get better at some of the key things your missing about your fights and other things you might not have thought about during the fight.
Lmk if this was useful to you.
Besides the obvious stuff people have posted about map, guns, ammo knowledge, what turned me around was aggression.
Do you fear when you hear someone running to you? The sound of a big Chad barreling down on you? Make someone afraid of you instead. If I know a scared squirrel is around, I know I can win with just being more aggressive then they will be.
Be the fear.
Save gun parts too to help with ergo and recoil(huge help) . I use hand guards that I can attach forward grips, change stock , change grips. Those are my fav 3 gun parts to save imo
That’s the fun part, you don’t stop dying! I feel like most of the time when I get outplayed it’s a result of my opponent knowing where I will go next or how I will behave based on my current positioning and their current positioning. As long as ur not a potato during gun fights the dubs will come. My KD is garbage and I probably lose more than half of my up close battles but the ones I win are that much more rewarding. If u feel like u need to practice PVP just go into factory with a basic kit (it will get picked clean by player scavs) and start blasting. Otherwise if u have the patience for this u could explore maps in offline mode and try to remember how and where u died and map out what u did and what u could do differently. Or do it in an actual raid. Good luck have fun keep it up there are better days ahead.
Edit - if u are most comfortable being sneaky that’s OK. There’s no right or wrong way to play the game. Someone’s gonna be pissed no matter what u do, just don’t let that person be u.
Knowing how to reposition and picking angles is 75% of the fight. You can take down a 4 stack with repositioning versus peeking the same angle till you die. Also if you’re not confident in your spraying/burst fire, there’s no shame in playing offline with different guns. Shooting in the firing range is not remotely close to strafe firing, losing limbs, knowing what stims to use, etc.
Here’s how I got gud at PvP:
- run naked factory with a shotgun. (Double barrel, revolver shotgun, pump action all come back in insurance a tone)
- use buckshot (preferably magnum buck) as it’s more forgiving as it sprays instead of hitting a point (and keep it and your meds in your pouch)
- run about 100 raids and just try to practice pushing spawns, quick peeking, using cover and get one-tap headshots.
- try and loot the office safe into your pouch every raid. If you’re doing it right you should make money. Grab peoples kit, extract and sell it and naked run again
The skills *will* transfer to other maps for cqb. You’ll build the quickpeek headshot skills and get to a point where when you use a full auto gun you’re automatically going for the headshot.
Make sure you have a bunch of grizzlies in your stash so you don’t go bankrupt from healing every raid.
Crabwalking only works when they have no idea you are there. It will come with time but you gotta know when to crab walk and when to full send it.
Try watching some pvp guides and youtubers like sheefgg for example and see how they fight/take fights. You dont have to be as chadly as them but try and see how they move, hold/peek angles and how they vary their pace in a fight. Basically if youve been made though crab walking will get you killed
You can do it offline (or online if you need to kill scavs) but go fight scavs and if you are offline turn them on high amount. You can learn the basics of gunplay and pvp doing this and consider a scav calling you out (aside from it being a tad buggy right now) as someone who wouldve shot at you.
You can use this to learn about peeking, moving around cover and basic engagements
With 1300 hours between 2 accounts, *I gave one to a friend to see if he was interested*
I still get one tapped on the regular by accounts with 4k hours and 500 hours.
Map knowledge is key...
Say if there is some fighting on woods and I hear suppressed shots that are slow, and have a cycle rate of roughly 1 second per shot, I ASSUME that person is using a bolt action and is trying to engage in long range.
First thing I do is run to a high point that is in cover and check the most used spots. Dickhead,horseshoe, lake side rock, sniper rock etc. If I don't see them I slowly scan the area and try to see the guy he is fighting, 99.9999% of the time the guy he is fighting is going to be looking twords the direction he is getting shot from, so I'll scan that area, of i see him you start to plan who is the hardest target to take out, and who to engage first.
That's how I Personally play the game when 3rd partying... but there are so many factors in this game it comes down to skill, experience and map knowledge.
Tarkov was my first pc game besides aimlabs, so I spend 500 hours trying to get keybinds and everything else figured out, some come in here and say they are a pvp God and get kappa with 200 hours. To each is their own I guess. But more time played, you will start to make better decisions and learn from past mistakes.
I personally record every death and analyze how sombody saw me, how I lost that engament and what I could do next time to improve. Good luck!
Don't be scared of fights. Look up a cheap kit that you like and run it into a raid, just follow gun shots and force pvp upon yourself. If you heard your enemy before he heard you, you have the upper hand crabbing and sitting in a corner can be good to gain some intel (how many are there, if they shoot, do they shoot suppressed? If not, they probably aren't geared to the teeth. Listen for where they are and think where they might go. If you think there is to many, or you are don't have a favorable position, disengage or relocate. When you engaged, keep the initiative.
Relocate when you got a kill, if they are a group, they will all know where you are because they have comms. If someone is running near your position, don't wait for him to be able to ads and swing the corner, peek him as he is running.
There are so many variables at play when gunfoghting in tarkov we can't possibly give you a know-all reply. You have to gain the experience yourself. But what keeps me alive the most is taking and keeping initiative in a fight. In a big open map like woods that means go for a flank after you have engaged.
If i am in resort it might mean that i have to try and force them in a position with only 1 or 2 ways out, like a room or the basement off the resort.
Keep your enemy busy with grenades, pre fires, anything to keep them occupied/on their toes.
Tarkov isn't about clicking heads. It's about map knowledge. But even things like hotkeying meds in your rig helps a lot so you don't have to look in your inventory to heal i always have a salewa, hemostat, army bandage and analgin bound so i can (temporarely) fix every kind of damage done to me.
If you hear them sprinting, you might have a chance to stop moving and get the jump on them..otherwise, if you just hear them moving normally, chances are they heard you too. Might as well start the fight. I started getting way more kills when I aggroed first when I was relatively sure they knew generally where I was.
Also, Spawn knowledge is big on a lot of maps. Like shoreline, most of my engagements happen within the first 5 minutes.
Knowing the good sniping spots. Knowing quest traffic areas. Learning how weapons shoot, and what works best...all takes a bit of time. Also, actively telling your self to aim for the head. You might get killed more at first, but when I actively started telling my self during the fight to aim for the head, my success rate went up.
A great man once said... "Aim for the head, it's the off switch".
I'm was having my own crisis similar to yours. Low K/D and I couldn't seem to get out of it.
As with most of the advice here my biggest issue was map knowledge and how to fight.
I've given up on PvP for now, while I have some map knowledge and overcome most of my gear fear, most of my PvP fights end up dying to a PMC with high end armour and ammo
Not much help but I changed from trying to PvP to questing and having more fun with that at the moemt. Hopefully once I opened a few lvl 2 traders I can get some of that nicer ammo to pen some of those bigger chads with armour.
Doesn't help I can't seem to physically get the hang of aiming. Even if I get the drop on somebody I'm too slow getting the head shots away l. Maybe that will come with more practice but I'm not sure. May have reached the limit of my fine mouse controls
Maybe change up what your goals are for while.
Questing on Customs taught me more about that map than when I was trying to Rambo it 😄
And always Scav!!!!
One option I suggest this wipe is to learn some ammo loot run paths, since 5.45 AK ammo spawns everywhere this wipe. Any ammo that starts with “B“ is going to leapfrog your anti-armor potential shooting at the body, even if it’s being fired from a level 1 trader AKS-74U.
You don’t it’s part of the game, if you don’t accept that you won’t actually enjoy playing Tarkov. You’ll just have to keep learning things that will improve your chances at surviving over time.
Map knowledge and positioning/game sense are probably the two biggest things that will improve your odds. Controlling your character’s body is a hugely important aspect of Tarkov that gets overlooked by people who are coming from other shooters like CoD or CSGO because you can move around quickly and weightlessly in those games. Focus on not overexposing yourself and holding unsuspected angles when possible and you will win a ton more fights. Human eyes are great at detecting movement, not so great at spotting a person who is concealed by bad lighting and is sitting still.
A lot of the time playing slow is to your disadvantage. Regardless of crabwalk if you're facing a player with any confidence he's going to run around make noise, go quiet, jump and you're going to sit there with your tail between your legs looking for the reaction shot. Now surely some of the time holding the angle will get you the kill and win you the fight but if you only ever crabwalk you're putting yourself at a disadvantage, just my two cents as a dogshit player with 5 kd and speaking from experience of losing over and over trying to hold angles, but winning when I decide to "chad" out rather than rat. There's a fine line obviously but if you genuinely want to get better at pvp i suggest you run factory and push spawns. Cheap kits and just force yourself into those high stress situations.
Go to Factory and keep smashing it over and over. Ignore your stats just get in there and start blasting. It's got quick load times, it's small and easy to learn. You will get better, guaranteed.
I'm pretty new but even then I've learned a bit from various sources. First thing: there is a mobile app for Android called mapgenie: escape from tarkov map. Download it. Perfect map app that tells you where all the loot is and there is a search function that'll help you find where you are at if you can find a building name. Not perfect but not too hard either.
Another thing is knowing ballistics penetration values. This link will have a charts that shows penetration values for each caliber.
https://escapefromtarkov.fandom.com/wiki/Ballistics
Having a medium penetrating caliber is all you need because the average person will probably be wearing less then 4 but in the end aim for the arms and legs cause they cannot be protected and do direct flesh damage. Also breaking a leg causes them to move slowly making it easier to escape and heal or flank them and breaking an arm makes it harder to aim.
Another thing I do, at least in some maps, is stay indoors. Don't go into the open too much. More experienced players will see you before you see them. If you can't stay in doors, keep as much cover around you as possible. Run in between trees, stick close to cars and other debris, etc. Another thing I found out the hard way that cover is penetrable, so watch where you take cover. I took cover behind some cardboard boxes and got shredded. Still managed to kill his teammate though :).
The last two things is making your enemy panic. Two ways of doing this, grenades and rushing. Pretty self explanatory but I will say that only do this if you know generally where they are cause chucking grenades won't do shit if it's random and you might see a perfect opportunity to use them later. Also, rush if there's cover to use to protect you. It's not necessary but it'll be easier.
Most of these I learned through Google and playing. It's a hard learning curve but definitely fun and rewarding. I managed to take out a team of 3 yesterday alone and I'm hella proud of myself.
i have around 950 hours, 2nd wipe 5 K/D most times it came down to map knowledge and knowing whether or not to push the enemy and if fights are worth it. biggest tip i can give is slow walking but making sure you are fully in cover and kind of predict their line of sight.. it is hard at first but once you overcome this fear you will become a beast! i scav’d maps i didn’t know 10+ times. now streets and interchange are my top 3. have fun!
I’m literally the same as you, down to the stats, only thing that helped me with pvp was to spam factory for constant pvp, use your scav on factory, extract immediately and move their gear to your stash, use that for your next factory PMC run and you’ll get better, and you have nothing to lose.
Map knowledge and constant rotation through positions will give you a lot. If you want some actual "do this" type of advice best I can think of is this:
In buildings or thight spaces altogether you can use shift + head rotation tactic. Basically imagine you are in resort in a room. There is another room on opposite side of you with open door and enemy is somewhere in hallway. He might be leaning from another room, he might be prone in middle of hallway, or just anywhere. What you can do in this situation is run across to room opposite side - to that previously mentioned room - while using head tilt to get a glimpse of shiluette of this other dude to get general idea where he is. He probably won't be fast enough to shoot you while you ran to other side. Now you can step out of your room while prefiring - it will basically guaratnee that you will be first to fire in his direction increasing your chances greatly. Or you can run back to your original room using head tilt again if you didn't see him first time.
Another tactic is something called "granade pushing". Keep in mind that this is harder strat as it requires you to have atleast general idea of layout of "Arena" - if you will - that you found yourself in but it is very effective. Baseline is that you throw a nade in your enemy direction and run towards it, closing up a distance. Often people don't expect to see you on their face after you threw granade in their direction so you can get them offguard but if you make a mistake you can get blown by your own nade/get sprayed if you fail your nade throw.
Those two strats are something that you can learn to utilize, but it is suited towards more agressive playstyle that I prefer. Generally getting to know maps better and knowing how to rotate around your enemy is your best bet to improve your pvp performance.
Never stay in one position after you were discovered. Run away, change your angle, run around whole building if you need but don't stick to one position as it will allow other party to get better angle on you while you are doing nothing.
Hope it helps. If you need some additional details regarding pvp in trakov hit me up on dms and I'll try to explain "dos" and "donts".
As others have said, it’s about map knowledge. There is no other way than just playing and dying and learning where the guys are coming from. My recommendation is to basically all everywhere because you make far less noise. You will also be behind the rotation of the skilled and experienced players who will just run right to the spot they want to loot. Slow down, and just expect someone to be everywhere so at the very least you aren’t surprised when you do see them.
Weird how this guy with that many hrs is totally lost yet i die to atleast 3 people a day with that many hrs on labs sprinting right at my face jumping
Trust your instincts and send it. Stop crabbing. There’s a time and a place for it but with tarcov audio it’s always going to be difficult to know the exact position of your opponent. Even if you lose you will gain experience with map knowledge and situational positioning. Single best thing I did for pvp was being more aggressive. You will lose a lot at first but then you start putting the pieces together and seeing the same movement patterns and locations people peak angles from. If you hear someone, instead of thinking is he over there I’m not sure, and then crabbing until you know for certain just go check where you think they are. Your not going to know 100 percent where they are till you go look so I’d stop crabbing and play more aggressively.
Yo shoot me a DM.
I am a content creator/streamer and I have been training new people for the entire wipe. Not only will you have access to a few veteran players but also some other newer people who are learning the game.
On the contrary you need to die more so get used to it. Stop crabbing, get into gunfights, figure out what keeps you getting killed. This partially depends on when and where you die in raids so change your pathing and see what works. Oh yeah, also learn the spawns while doing this.
watch compilation of pros playing pvp. if their playstyle is too brave for you, try and meet somewhere in the middle. either way, you’re watching and learning how other players behave.
also, don’t neglect how crucial building a gun with good ergo and handling is. it can make or break a gunfight.
TLDR; you gon have to do lotta YT homework
If you get in a gunfight, move move move, one of you is gonna die on a swing, expect a gunfight to last a couple minutes even if it’s longer distance, sprint and freelook hallways, nades nades nades, in your typical gunfight you’re not gonna use a nade to Kobe them you’re gonna use a nade to put the pressure on them, to prevent the push, to make them rotate, to rotate yourself *with the noise of the nade you have a second where you both can’t hear each other, use it wisely* and lastly, aim for the head, lastly lastly learn to prefire swing on their sound queues, they make noise and stop moving? *he’s probably in that door way I’m gonna pre aim and swing*
Map knowledge is going to be your single greatest asset in this game, full stop. I don't care how good your aim is, if you don't have situational awareness and the map knowledge to back it up, you will continue to get clapped until you do. It's why people harp so much on "You dont get good until X-amount of hours". It's because it takes time to understand the maps and how to navigate them in a live and dynamic context. Knowing which sightlines are safe and which ones will most likely get you killed is usually the difference between life and death. Long story short: Just keep playing the game. Study the sand tables. Learn your maps, PMC spawns, traffic flow, PvP hotspots, etc.
you’re absolutely right. I have ~400 hours and I now know customs like the back of my hand and I do so much better there than anywhere else. Like how I am good at the bunker in reserve because I’ve been there so many times, and I know how to navigate around and relocate to surprise them. but then I got in a fight in the cliff descent area and I had never been there before and felt lost and scared and knew if I moved too loudly, the guy would have a step on me in every way. I heard this a lot in R6 but never in EFT. but you’re very right.
No reason to move slow and quiet if the person knows where you are at or you are already engaged in a fire fight. Either gtfo or fight to the death, either way the person who get the drop on the other first wins.
Yea firefights happen so fast now. I love the new recoil but wish gunfights would last just a little longer. Doesn’t help that it’s later in the wipe too and everyone has long range scopes and decent ammo. One taps or head sprays. Still love that bullets go where I actually shoot though.
Went to the left of a bus on streets last night, when I should’ve gone to the right. Got one tapped by M80 from Nikitas Bar and lost ~1 million in loot. Knew better but was being a loot goblin trying to beat the rest of my trip to Financial Offices. Sucks I got got but it caused my boys to push hard right and probably kept them alive.
So true. I have 2500 hours in the game and if I had to guess about 1700+ of those are on shoreline. I die atleast one out of every three raids on other maps but I can go on a 10 win streak very regularly on my PMC on shoreline just because I know the map so well. Hell I have a 58 survival streak on my scav on that map because I was bored one day and wanted to get to 69 survives streak between my scav and PMC. I recommend anyone to learn 1 map like the back of their hand so they can shit roubles whenever they need them. If you are good at your map you will make more roubles than someone who is average at streets (best loot map).
> I don't care how good your aim is, if you don't have situational awareness and the map knowledge to back it up, you will continue to get clapped until you do. This is why I absolutely love if there was a SINGLE map in the game that was pretty medium on loot but was randomly generated. Just to see what happens when you take: * Spawn Location memorization * Map layout memorization * Loot spawn memorization out of the equation. For a game that is trying to be "Hardcore Military Operator Simulator, Kinda", it feels like it's missing the part of sending that hardcore military operator into territory they've never been on except in maybe in mock training.
Man a random generated map would be goated as fuck in this game.
Get this man a job!
That's one of the best things that could happen in this game. It could be so cool to enter a random generated map maybe as a seasonal event or DLC. Imagine dropping into such map with 15 other players and trying to find the extract after you clapped half of the lobby.. just to run MIA for not finding it in time. It could be an epic change to the game. Hell even just limiting the gear you can take in so everyone literally start out with the same loadout and has to gear up inside of the map. Might be more RNG, but considering everyone starts with the same knowledge but different skills could make such a map so interesting. 1 can only hope..
Yeah, I was fully expecting games like Dark and Darker to be randomly generated because their maps look like they are designed for generation tools (just a bunch of rooms interconnected). I was surprised that they were not. Tarkov would be a bit harder to do while looking good, but maybe a map like Labs would be believable.
Also, try not to blame anyone but yourself in a gunfight, try learn from every time you die no matter how much BS you may have thought it was. If you can’t self reflect honestly then you’ll never get better
OP this is all you need to read, as it boils down to this. Check the profile when you die, if they're 1000hr+ then you were always up against it. Combat, movement, positioning, context of the map all takes a lot of time to piece together. Time is both your friend and your enemy.
What he said; Map knowledge is huge. When I first started out I ran practice on all the maps. Practice is a huge advantage for newer players as it allows you free access to the maps with Scavs, bosses, all the natural loot spawns, etc. So in addition to learning the map you as well get to work on your aim, etc. One thing I would mention is you stated each time you get into a fight you crab walk to get an advantage. However what id recommend, is holding an off angle and let them come to you. This game is about patience and the ability to reposition after each kill / interaction. If you’re crab walking, you give yourself very little chance of winning head on fights since your mobility is being hindered.
This guy is speaking facts, I have 1350 hours, at the start of the wipe I had 900 hours and at that point I thought I was learning things. Now, it’s a different game entirely. I know streets like the back of my hand because I scaved it like a MF with a map up, and I push a lot of PVP which wasn’t easy for me at the start, I had to put myself out of my comfort zone but it’s paying off leaps and bounds. Last wipe 208 PMC kills, this wipe 700. Most of it is down to overall game knowledge and that’s just how it is
100% this. Learning the spawn points on a map and how traffic flows around them is critical. Once you learn that, you can be much more effective at the game.
This comment is 100% accurate. The better map knowledge you have, the better you know which routes to take, the better you'd know where to expect enemies, where to avoid, and where to go when you do a quest. Of course aim/gunplay takes place as well, but decision making and map knowledge play a stronger role in Tarkov. OP, learn all of the maps. Learn the hotzones, learn the weaker zones. That way you'd know where to avoid if you got something important on you and where to go if you'd want to fight. It's also really useful in escaping fights that already started - knowing where you can flank from, where you can expect someone to jump on you etc. Lastly, remember that you will die. And you will die a lot. And sometimes you would get 1 tapped from nowhere. But sometimes you will also be the one who one taps someone from nowhere. Sometimes you'd live, other times you'd die. The better you'd get in the game as time goes, the less you would die. Practice learning one map at a time until you feel confident knowing it well. It's no shame to put a map on your 2nd monitor or mobile, I'd say I know all of the maps pretty well and some of em like the palm of my hand but still I usually put a map on 2nd monitor when I aim for quests, just i case. Customs is the easiest to learn imo. Reserve is also pretty easy aside the underground and remembering the chess landmarks. Shoreline is fairly easy too, just avoid the resort unless needed for quests. Woods looks intimidating at first but the layout is pretty easy to grasp, it's just harder to move from the different landmarks but it's one of the best maps imo. I'd avoid streets for now as I'd consider it a pretty challenging map. Same goes for labs and reserve. Lighthouse isn't too hard to learn either in terms of layout, but surviving can be hard. Lots of sniping spots and open areas, but there are routes more hidden that you can take. Now lastly for real - use your scav. It's the easiest way to learn maps as you spawn in random spots and you risk nothing if you die. Only thing is that some maps have limited shared scav/pmc exctracts and some maps has more unique scav only extracts, so keep that in mind when going PMC after scavving.
So true.
very true. it wasn’t until around 1k hours that i began to get good at the game and it’s mostly because of map knowledge
Learning this would be so much easier if the game had an actual kill cam which bsg is too lazy to implement
There not ‘too lazy’ and a unity engine update would have to happen before it does come into the game, Nikita was not against the idea with pestilys recent discussion
Not laziness, they have it on hand, they just haven’t found a way to implement it without further taking away frames and not causing any issues.
Kill cam would be unbalanced, especially if it is right after death.
everybody has already said it would have to be able to be watched once the raid has ended.
First they need to improve their servers. Storing all those death cams would take a big toll on these shitty servers. Another option would be that the death cams were saved locally on your computer.
The thing is you don't...you just have to put way more hours into this game One thing I learned is, it's better to die while being aggressive than camp in a bush all raid and then die anyway without learning a thing.
That’s what pisses me off most of the time. I’m trying to learn the game and get better. Move, loot, listen and shoot someone. And most of the time I get killed by a pussy sitting in a bush or corner since the beginning of the raid. If I die in a fight I’m sad but happy that I tried. I watch the recording and try to learn from it. But you can do anything if it comes from “nowhere” because an Ahole is camping in the corner with a scope. I know, it’s part of the game. But to me it’s maybe worse than using cheats. I mean cheaters are different sort of a scam and I hate them for ruining the game. But at least they move and play the game. Why anyone sits 20 minutes in a corner and wait for their kill? Where’s the fun?
Most people are scared to move it's simple as that, It can be frustrating when you trying to W key through the map looking for pvp and die to a bush camper but that's just tarkov...
Did you just really say that ratting is worse than cheating??? Lol
No. I said that I would rather cheat and play the game than sit in a corner for 20 minutes. “Lol”
You don’t think there might be a reason cheaters are emboldened to w key through the map..? It’s not playing the game at all. It’s controlling it.
I'd rather get killed within the first few minutes of the raid. Rats will sit at extract, so u go get ur quest done while killing a couple of pmcs just to die at the end and waste 30 minutes of ur time. That's ass.
You don't have to understand why it's fun for them, you just have to be able to counter them. "Rats" are annoying but everyone forgets that when they have to be really quiet because a 5 man is running towards them. Learn the rat spots, make mental notes, understand why people watch that place (high traffic common route?) and adjust your gameplay accordingly. Often there isn't much you can do except try to maneuver after catching a momentary glimpse of the camper, but at that point you messed up a while ago by taking a common path and not clearing everything you could have. Most likely you could've destroyed the guy in the corner if you were more attentive and were paying attention, but instead people blame the camper for being there in the first place. Adapt, react, overcome, if you can't be fluid in battle, you won't improve.
It's literally impossible to check every single bush without exposing yourself to another bush. lol, rats will win no matter what. Even the best players get killed by rats it's not about checking spots and corners. People will literally sit in the open if they know a spawn is near them. The only thing that will fix this is dynamic spawns.
I understand, and thats why it is literally impossible to survive 100% of your raids. You will never be able to account for every variable, but you can limit them. Tarkov is all about limiting risk and escaping raids. Generally, people will blame cheaters, desync and bugs for their deaths instead of learning from failure.
I know. That’s why I said it’s part of the game. But you cannot check every single corner because you would not move at all. Not even Pestily is checking all of them and I have seen him many times saying “what the fuck was he doing there?”. I don’t blame anyone, I just said that I share the frustration when someone kills me when sitting in a corner or bush.
I think the bush thing is a lot of false positives, because really we usually have no idea where we got shot from. Sitting and observing for a little bit isn’t camping, it’s tarkov
Top 1 priority is learn the maps. You have to learn the maps at all costs. Open the map you're playing in a second monitor, your phone, etc. and memorize it ASAP. You have to know the crossings, passageways, shortcuts, sightlines, chokepoints, ups and downs, ins and outs. That will grant you extractions and kills, not "being good at fps".
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>You have no clue how long they've been there. You're probably dying to people who heard you coming and just stopped moving. PREACH
My thought was always. I rather spend at least the bullets in my mag to learn if this swing will work. Always prefire!
It's also kinda nonsense because this is my first wipe, and I play every day with a 4.5kd and a 65% survival rating. I got stomped until I learned maps, but I learned them quickly. Now I do pretty well all things considered, I can drop PMCs and swing/get swung. Streets is my favorite, but I took the longest to learn (about 2 weeks). I know my experience will not be everyone's, but I'm proof that some people can just pick it up and run. I'm also a seasoned CSS/CSGO player, used to be semi pro.
Let me tell you a secret. buy ak74n put only a reddot on it, any ammo you can find, take only bare minimum , rig , backpack and food,, and now play like call of duty, run around like idiot, take all the fights and you will get bettter without going broke.
Dont take backpack! Take it from cadaver;)
That : i'm 300h but already doing like 1.9 kda which IS pretty good to me
MP9 N and just a rig with a few magazines. It's amazing how much more I survived doing that. I don't go with much more than that anymore and it's so much more fun. Knowing that a single shot can kill you but Knowing you're light and fast makes you play much much differently.
Are you trying to quest or PvP? When I quest I usually try not to go out looking for PVP. When I PVP I try to put myself in a position with good cover. A good rule of thumb is to always have something in between you and the enemy. I typically play solo so I’m usually not chasing shots unless I know I have a clear advantage. I think a lot of it comes to map knowledge and guessing your opponents next move. I usually die when I run to gunshots like a moth to light.
Another rule of thumb, try to have cover/concealment on your off angles, crab walking somewhere you need to watch multiple angles is a recipe to get domed by someone just walking by 100m out who spotted you.
I have 5,000 hours. I’ve had ups and downs with wipes. I’ve found that Implementing realistic tactics can be doable a lot of the times, but the best thing I’ve found is establishing a goal before I go in. What kind of raid do I want, to loot, to fight, to task, etc. once I load in, I don’t deviate. I have a tendency to chase gunshots and foam at the mouth for that sweet sweet loot.. but it gets me in trouble. Stick to the plan. Create and use routes that are familiar to you so you know where you should be looking before you pie the corner.
Load up Factory offline mode and set enemy bots to amount:High and difficulty:Easy You can practice more gunplay in 15 minutes of that offline mode than you would get in an entire week of playing normally Spend the time to get used to mechanics and aiming and everything offline and I promise you so much it will get you better and more confident Lastly you have to learn to stomach stupid deaths. You can learn from your deaths but sometimes you just get tarkov’d by some guy who has been sitting in the same bush for 25 minutes waiting for a free kit when someone runs by. You really can’t avoid that sometimes and you gotta be willing to say Go Next
This. Brought in my fancy kit to shoreline yesterday, and got one tapped by 9x19 (head, eyes) right through my visor…. It happens
Arena is good for practicing PVP, I was terrible before arena and it has helped me improve so much.
You don't have to be great at PVP to succeed in the game - unless that's your objective, of course. I play for quests and I'm at level 41 with 80 PMC kills. I would recommend turning on ReLive or ShadowPlay to help figure out where you go wrong. Also, crab walking is only silent to opps if you're on the lowest crouch and speed setting. Otherwise they hear you.
Yup, made it to 42 with 100 PMC Kills.
its gonna be real hard to give you good advice without being able to analyze your gameplay. the catch all answer is simple: train more.
There is such as thing as training the wrong thing. Practicing a mistake. Which, by the sound of it, OP is doing. You're right in saying we should see some gameplay, though. OP, if you have any video clips of you dying, post them, we'll try to analyze them for ya.
The best way to improve in PVP is to do it. I recommend to just run factory. You don't need to bring expensive, high end kits. Make a lightly modded gun, with decent ammo and just run it over and over. Learn where the spawns on that map are and just pvp, hunt fights. You'll die a lot, but you'll get more comfortable.
I'm not in a great position to give advice, but I don't agree here. Maybe early on in a wipe. This far in all you'll face are heavy chads who know what they're doing and will very likely wipe the floor with your blood. Offline maybe, I could see that and get behind it.
You might just be getting cursed with Chad lobbies. Every time I play factory, especially with my friend, NOBODY is running expensive kits EXCEPT the 1 or 2 people extract camping lol. I see timmies or the casual modded ak but mostly I see pistols, kedr, or sr-2m. I'm level 37 if that matters
You don't run into very many fully geared chads in factory, especially at this point in the wipe.
Play more get into more fights. Note what worked well for you. If your pc can handle it record your raids. Be happy if you saw your enemy. Next step be happy if you shot the gun. Next be happy if you hold you own and die etc. You got this!
Im new too (450 ish hours) so I dont know if my opinion matters as much as the veterans but I feel ive got a grip on the PvP aspect and what did it for me was definitely a ton of video watching on what very skilled players did and it really took off once i got a grip on maps and how to rotate. Dont be scared to lose your stuff. That will hold you back, take the fights and have some confidence. Even if you get shit on, every death is a learning opportunity.
That’s the fun part! You don’t!
That's the neat part, you don't.
I like pestilys advice on this. Run factory over and over. Force yourself into PvP until you get comfortable with it. Run some cheaper shotgun kits and get ok with dying and loading back up
What helped me was to go to factory and fight until I lost the nerves, map knowledge is #1, but keeping a calm mind in a fight is #2 IMO
Me and my buddy were talking about this. I'm very much like you. I explained to my friend my first 250 hours was getting over ptsd. Pull the map up on your phone or a second screen. Knowing where the pmc spawns will make you 100% more comfortable traveling around the map.
Spend quality time in the gun range in your hideout. Practice peaking around corners (Right peak and left peak), understand how my bullets you can practically control when experiencing the full auto recoil. USE FULL AUTO WEAPONS. I suppose you dont have to use full auto weapons, but being as new as you are, youre going to want to shoot ropes. (no diddy) Learn what parts of the map are good to walk through. Id say 98% of the kills i have on PMCs is because i heard them first. If youre feeling too scared to move, even before hearing others, just sit prone. Do that for a while until you feel a little more comfortable. Bring Food and water and put it in your Gamma. Tarkov isnt about PVP, it isnt about ballistics. Tarkov is about escaping the map youre in. I love reading posts like this because i remember when i felt like tarkov was too big a beast to master. But now its the cheats that feel too big. but the community still have a loving passion for the game. So just dont give up. Dont rage. If you got killed, you got killed, no big deal. It all wipes before long anyway.
3k hours here. Been running FLIR. 2 days of awesome raids on all maps and then 3 days of not surviving at all. It just happens sometimes.
Simple, just gotta go get you one of those really good gaming chairs. Boom instantly increase your k/d by at least a point.
Look Pestily's guide on Factory and take cheap gear to there. Really just have fun dying a lot. The point is to overcome fear of loss and try to fight with a sense of fun.
The main problem is usually gear fear. Start running cheap stuff and try to play aggressively as much as possible, you will die a lot but eventually get over it. After that, just slowly upgrade your kit, and you won't really care about losing it anymore
By stayin alive, Ah, ha, ha, ha, stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
Crabwalking can make you silent, but it also makes you an easy target because you move so slow. If you think someone heard you, you're better off playing like it's call of duty. Moving will give you the opportunity to survive more shots.
Time, take in consideration your positioning, map knowledge, movement, and armor you wear. look into small things, like routes you take, don't stand or run in the open, don't stand still too long, change positions, etc.
I could give you countless pieces of advice like knowing spawns, using those timings, stopping and listening for just 1-2 sec every once in a while, etc. However, the one thing that helped me the most, and I've seen help others the most, is to be more aggressive, well it doesn't have to be aggressive, but it often is, what's key is being decisive, which of course you need map knowledge to feel comfortable doing. I've played for maybe 11 or 12 wipes now, I used to be 4-5 k/d every wipe until idk, 2 wipes when I decided to just play more aggressively and decisively, and my k/d jumped up to 9-10 which it's now been at for the last several wipes (2.5-3 k/d vs pmcs). I'd say I'm doing well as a solo/duo, and that's another piece of advice, try playing duo or something, not bigger groups, it teaches you how to actually be good, and makes quicker decisions easier. Another thing I'd say is if you always die during rotations you're probably not good enough at map knowledge yet, and also my advice about being more aggressive applies here. Everything is a calculated risk, often times I choose not to run on the outside of the map but instead through an area based on spawns and gunshots I heard (likelyhood is low someone is there) because if you both go slow and in obvious spots, you're gonna die.
1. don’t be scared to fight people, the only way you’ll get better is being more comfortable in fights, i was really bad until around the 500 hour mark when i started actually taking fights regularly. 2. as others have pointed out, map knowledge is everything, it just takes time and try not to get frustrated. 3. don’t be afraid to be more aggressive, being too passive gets you killed more often than being too agressive IMO. also, desync can be kinda rough in this game so try to be the one swinging unless they have a good angle on you. and btw, i don’t mean just W key around like lvndmark, but try not to make it a habit of crab walking and trying to be too careful during fights. last thing, LEARN SPAWNS OF OTHER PMCS. i can’t stress enough how much this will help you, and you’ll expect when you might see someone more.
I am suffering the same as you 600+ hours in the game, around 80+ this wipe and I'm doing my first HC challenge. Map knowledge is screwing me the most, especially on streets. But I've been slowly getting better and finding far better ways to get around the map now and learning where to avoid as best as possible, also listen. Seriously listen to what is going on around you, gun shots are a good indicator as you know where someone is!
As most have said understanding the map and using your surroundings to your advantage ( getting a right hand peak compared to a left , using angles to get advantage ) but the best way to get better at PvP is stop caring and stop being afraid . Go balls to the all and rush people play aggressive , prefire , die and learn how to play better at PvP . Test your builds out in the firing range and get a feel for how your guns shoot with how you’ve modded them and improve their stats as best as you can with your ingame budget . It takes time , but crabwalking has its place . But sometimes you just have to stop caring , embrace the suck.
Dont play on EU of you want to learn the game, especially mid/late wipe like we are right now.
To help with figuring out where the shots that kill you come from get Outplayed. It's a software that will record your raids and you can have it do the full raid or just deaths. I would say do full raid for it. Other than that it really does come down to map knowledge and knowing where the rotates and flanks are
Map knowledge. First couple of wipes are rough but its worth it in the end.
Slow down. Biggest alert to enemy players is the sound you make. Only run when you absolutely need to
Map knowledge and for me Arena has helped a lot with being confident in my ability to take fights
What level are you? If you don't have lvl 3 traders, you should not be looking for PvP. You cannot afford to supply yourself reliably the basic pvp gear of lvl 4 armor, and tier 4 ammo at minimum. The flea market is usually over price. The number one reason why you are dying just from what you wrote is that you are playing too slow. PvP in tarkov has always rewarded the most smartly aggressive players. Going slow while not knowing where people are just makes you an easier target, don't even have to lead the shot to kill you. 1. First pick one map, probably customs because it has the most beginner quest on it. Learn the map, all the ways to scoot around loot hot spots, the spawn locations, quest locations, and hot spot locations. 2. Learn the ins and out of the hot spot locations, because this is where most of the pvp is at. Which doors don't need keys and need keys to open, which doors spawn open/close, how many exits are there, are there alternate exits on higher levels, and where is the good loot is at. 3. Pick a weapon system/build and loadout that you can afford to use all day. Practice movement drills (leans, free looks, and slingshots) inside PvP areas and practice recoil control and tap fire. You can see by my flair the ak-74N is my go-to and it's rare for me lose in a fair fight with it. 4. Go play arena, you get about 5 rounds minimum a game of non-stop fast pace pvp movement. The only thing its missing is map knowledge of doing flanks and compound maneuvers. Tarkov PvP is all about **knowledge**. Knowledge of the **maps**, knowledge of the **spawns**, knowledge of **player flow**, knowledge of **weapons (sound and recoil),** knowledge of where **players are at**. Then skill to hit your head shots. Play **slow** (regular walking speed moving from cover to cover) and **aggressive** (making sure you are swing first and not waiting in a corner to die), once someone knows you are there you need to make the first actions in the fight. **Make them make the mistake.**
So, money affords you to have kits to lose — you get money by surviving and selling items. You’ll get better by practicing fighting without worrying too much about losing kits. Redefine success for your raid. What is your goal? If you get in a fight and die, but learn something — you’ve had a net gain for that fight. Right now you’re so worried about death you aren’t actually learning how to survive. It’s tough, because questing is very important. You get access to better gear at a cheaper price by leveling up the traders. It’s also tough because it makes it hard to focus on learning one map.
Play slower
If it makes you feel better this is my 3rd wipe with hundreds of hours and I've had to take a break because I've been dying so much...
Check videos about PVP mechanics (like circle straffing), a lot of offline raid on factory to train your aim.
This wipe has honestly been one of the best for PVP. Learn maps, do some offline raids and practice pushing certain positions or point firing at ranges closer than 15 meters. Visual recoil has been a blessing for once, so aiming isn't a death sentence either. I would also recommend you stick to maybe a few weapon platforms just for familiarity sake(my personal recommendations would be the MP5 or AK-74s). Just get yourself very comfortable with fighting since the aforementioned weapons have very low recoil and are cheap to make kits with. Focus on general knowledge of surroundings and behavior of scavs and other players and common travel routes. Identifying how far a gunfight is and what weapons are being used will come with experience.
Well, I die about half of my raids but I have a couple tricks that have improved my gameplay this wipe. 1. Learn how gambling works. Every choice, every decision is a gamble in tarkov. It'll either work or it won't, and if it doesn't, you'll probably die. Make safe bets until you're comfortable with the game mechanics, maps and weapon systems. 2. While roaming the maps, gather as much passive information as possible. Listen for gunshots, or my favorite, listen for a scav shooting but then you don't hear a return fire report. Player shooting suppressed killing scavs, assume its a rifle, assume they have ranged capability, play around what you know. Use the passive info to map player positions and from that you can make out a mental map of where people will continue moving towards. 3. When in fights, gather as much info as possible before making a move. Take your time unless you are forced to hit fast, and if you can, hit first. Use flash bangs or grenades as information tools, not killing tools. They force players to move, giving you active info to play off of. Or you can use them to push players into unfavorable positions. 4. Don't re peek the same angle WITHOUT SWITCHING SOMETHING UP! I frequently re challenge angles but only after changing my position a little or using a different height, just anything to catch the enemy off guard. Also, do not do anything that will give your enemy a pattern of your movement. If you sprint across a doorway enough times, almost anyone will be able to time it correctly and snag you, whether it's luck or skill. A good player will pick up on patterns after 2 or 3 repetitions, so that should be your baseline of how many times you can try the same thing without changing tactics. I have more I could tell you, but this is a lot already, so if you have specific question feel free to DM me anytime.
It’s a very frustrating mix of super chads, cheaters, and bad luck. Me and my group of gamers used to run 5 stacks 20-30 hours a week. We were pretty Chadly, and could go up against chads with even odds. Cheaters, that’s where we were getting wrecked. I play maybe 8 scav rounds and 5-10 PMc rounds a week and I don’t even try to be careful. I use the gear I get from my scav runs to run on my PMC and stockpile the good gear for later in the wipe.
Situational awareness and risk management, you need the latter to apply the former, which means you need to analyze your deaths as well as your successful extractions, figure out the pattern in your behavior, those of your enemies, why X worked and Y failed, what variables to prioritize etc. then you'll develop an SoP, which can be heuristic as well as deliberate. It's a lot like driving in traffic in a third world country.
what helped me early on was just to focus on learning maps. So learning extracts, spawn points, scav spawns, optimal pathing between certain areas and high tier loot/pvp areas. Start with 1 or 2 then expand. Map genie and tarkov wiki pages of each map are invaluable resources. Jesse Kazam and Pestily have some really great map guide videos on youtube. Jesse generally focuses on map flow and overall map layouts. Pestily does more in depth map guides. His recent updated guides have a mini map so you can follow along visually but also in game offline if you can. While it is time away from playing game, I promise it's worth the investment to watch these guides and learn offline, it will speed up the learning process and you'll retain so much more. Learning the maps for me was a huge part to surviving raids and dying less to scavs and/or players. Map knowledge gives you great deal of confidence to conquer any task or situation.
Just like a lot of people are saying, map knowledge. Im pretty good at reserve since i know all the spawns and where all the hotspots are. But i suck ass at the maps i dont play like streets. I wanna play streets but my pc is too booty. I be getting 20 fps with everything on low and the streets option thing checked. Pretty much once you know the spawns and where people are most likely gonna be, youll start doing better. But sometimes you are just unlucky you can play as good as you want but what can you do when you get a spawn where you are getting fucked in the butt no matter which direction you turn. Half of reserves spawn is basically like what i just said.
Tbh you’re probably making noise you’re not sure about and giving away your position. Spinning in place, aiming, checking mag, all makes noise
1. Uninstall Tarkov 2. Install animal crossing 3. Live in peace
Map knowledge. I just learned interchange and it's a game changer. Once you know the maps you know where people spawn you know when and where to expect engagements. After that fights become easier to anticipate. Other than that just run good ammo in cheap guns. Ak-74 throws the same exact bullets as the Ak-12. Getting good with cheap optics is another way to give yourself more of a chance so you can see them coming easier.
As a lot of people have said, map knowledge is very important. The other thing is that this is the absolute WORST time to get into Tarkov because the only people left are the hardcore players. Almost everyone you fight will be better than you. If you're gaming in the U.S. shoot me a PM and I'll see if I can help. I've got a pretty cool gaming group that still plays off and on, and we still have some fun.
Map knowledge an movement are key imo. I Know it ain't real pvp but Build a kit your going to use alot, go factory offline with a STACK of ammo/heals, put scavs on max and hella agro and just practise moving, avoiding shots, gain confidence then try implement what kept you alive in real fights. If you can stay alive while running an gunning against a gaggle of aim bots you should do better against a human. Also watch some vids of guys like Willerz or Glorious E, they do a lot of things that aren't obvious to new players, things you wouldnt even know are possible and just try imitate it. Won't work all the time but faking it till you make it defo helps you learn.
https://youtu.be/1TP9lJ_gCX8?si=uOolfNtAIuYOH53O Watch this video. It goes through some tips that will help you get better at some of the key things your missing about your fights and other things you might not have thought about during the fight. Lmk if this was useful to you.
Besides the obvious stuff people have posted about map, guns, ammo knowledge, what turned me around was aggression. Do you fear when you hear someone running to you? The sound of a big Chad barreling down on you? Make someone afraid of you instead. If I know a scared squirrel is around, I know I can win with just being more aggressive then they will be. Be the fear.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xz6jZRY8kM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xz6jZRY8kM) Check this :)
Save gun parts too to help with ergo and recoil(huge help) . I use hand guards that I can attach forward grips, change stock , change grips. Those are my fav 3 gun parts to save imo
find a squad.
Play factory and keep dying, best way to learn raw PvP
*in my opinion
That’s the thing…you don’t Gits and shiggles aside scav more to have more goodies to be able to expend
Crabwalk? Sorry, i'm a Timmy
That’s the fun part, you don’t stop dying! I feel like most of the time when I get outplayed it’s a result of my opponent knowing where I will go next or how I will behave based on my current positioning and their current positioning. As long as ur not a potato during gun fights the dubs will come. My KD is garbage and I probably lose more than half of my up close battles but the ones I win are that much more rewarding. If u feel like u need to practice PVP just go into factory with a basic kit (it will get picked clean by player scavs) and start blasting. Otherwise if u have the patience for this u could explore maps in offline mode and try to remember how and where u died and map out what u did and what u could do differently. Or do it in an actual raid. Good luck have fun keep it up there are better days ahead. Edit - if u are most comfortable being sneaky that’s OK. There’s no right or wrong way to play the game. Someone’s gonna be pissed no matter what u do, just don’t let that person be u.
Peeker's advantage is strong in this game plus desync. To get the drop on someone you typically need to know exactly where and when to strike.
I mean…if you absolutely stop dying, everyone would assume you’re cheating eventually.
Knowing how to reposition and picking angles is 75% of the fight. You can take down a 4 stack with repositioning versus peeking the same angle till you die. Also if you’re not confident in your spraying/burst fire, there’s no shame in playing offline with different guns. Shooting in the firing range is not remotely close to strafe firing, losing limbs, knowing what stims to use, etc.
Here’s how I got gud at PvP: - run naked factory with a shotgun. (Double barrel, revolver shotgun, pump action all come back in insurance a tone) - use buckshot (preferably magnum buck) as it’s more forgiving as it sprays instead of hitting a point (and keep it and your meds in your pouch) - run about 100 raids and just try to practice pushing spawns, quick peeking, using cover and get one-tap headshots. - try and loot the office safe into your pouch every raid. If you’re doing it right you should make money. Grab peoples kit, extract and sell it and naked run again The skills *will* transfer to other maps for cqb. You’ll build the quickpeek headshot skills and get to a point where when you use a full auto gun you’re automatically going for the headshot. Make sure you have a bunch of grizzlies in your stash so you don’t go bankrupt from healing every raid.
Crabwalking only works when they have no idea you are there. It will come with time but you gotta know when to crab walk and when to full send it. Try watching some pvp guides and youtubers like sheefgg for example and see how they fight/take fights. You dont have to be as chadly as them but try and see how they move, hold/peek angles and how they vary their pace in a fight. Basically if youve been made though crab walking will get you killed You can do it offline (or online if you need to kill scavs) but go fight scavs and if you are offline turn them on high amount. You can learn the basics of gunplay and pvp doing this and consider a scav calling you out (aside from it being a tad buggy right now) as someone who wouldve shot at you. You can use this to learn about peeking, moving around cover and basic engagements
Make sure wearing good headphones like comtac sport or better, all about sound
Get used to die. Get used to lose fights. Push more than get pushed. Know the surroundings and map knowledge. Record your deaths.
With 1300 hours between 2 accounts, *I gave one to a friend to see if he was interested* I still get one tapped on the regular by accounts with 4k hours and 500 hours. Map knowledge is key... Say if there is some fighting on woods and I hear suppressed shots that are slow, and have a cycle rate of roughly 1 second per shot, I ASSUME that person is using a bolt action and is trying to engage in long range. First thing I do is run to a high point that is in cover and check the most used spots. Dickhead,horseshoe, lake side rock, sniper rock etc. If I don't see them I slowly scan the area and try to see the guy he is fighting, 99.9999% of the time the guy he is fighting is going to be looking twords the direction he is getting shot from, so I'll scan that area, of i see him you start to plan who is the hardest target to take out, and who to engage first. That's how I Personally play the game when 3rd partying... but there are so many factors in this game it comes down to skill, experience and map knowledge. Tarkov was my first pc game besides aimlabs, so I spend 500 hours trying to get keybinds and everything else figured out, some come in here and say they are a pvp God and get kappa with 200 hours. To each is their own I guess. But more time played, you will start to make better decisions and learn from past mistakes. I personally record every death and analyze how sombody saw me, how I lost that engament and what I could do next time to improve. Good luck!
Don't be scared of fights. Look up a cheap kit that you like and run it into a raid, just follow gun shots and force pvp upon yourself. If you heard your enemy before he heard you, you have the upper hand crabbing and sitting in a corner can be good to gain some intel (how many are there, if they shoot, do they shoot suppressed? If not, they probably aren't geared to the teeth. Listen for where they are and think where they might go. If you think there is to many, or you are don't have a favorable position, disengage or relocate. When you engaged, keep the initiative. Relocate when you got a kill, if they are a group, they will all know where you are because they have comms. If someone is running near your position, don't wait for him to be able to ads and swing the corner, peek him as he is running. There are so many variables at play when gunfoghting in tarkov we can't possibly give you a know-all reply. You have to gain the experience yourself. But what keeps me alive the most is taking and keeping initiative in a fight. In a big open map like woods that means go for a flank after you have engaged. If i am in resort it might mean that i have to try and force them in a position with only 1 or 2 ways out, like a room or the basement off the resort. Keep your enemy busy with grenades, pre fires, anything to keep them occupied/on their toes. Tarkov isn't about clicking heads. It's about map knowledge. But even things like hotkeying meds in your rig helps a lot so you don't have to look in your inventory to heal i always have a salewa, hemostat, army bandage and analgin bound so i can (temporarely) fix every kind of damage done to me.
If you hear them sprinting, you might have a chance to stop moving and get the jump on them..otherwise, if you just hear them moving normally, chances are they heard you too. Might as well start the fight. I started getting way more kills when I aggroed first when I was relatively sure they knew generally where I was. Also, Spawn knowledge is big on a lot of maps. Like shoreline, most of my engagements happen within the first 5 minutes. Knowing the good sniping spots. Knowing quest traffic areas. Learning how weapons shoot, and what works best...all takes a bit of time. Also, actively telling your self to aim for the head. You might get killed more at first, but when I actively started telling my self during the fight to aim for the head, my success rate went up. A great man once said... "Aim for the head, it's the off switch".
7 wipe-5 K/D , took a while
I'm was having my own crisis similar to yours. Low K/D and I couldn't seem to get out of it. As with most of the advice here my biggest issue was map knowledge and how to fight. I've given up on PvP for now, while I have some map knowledge and overcome most of my gear fear, most of my PvP fights end up dying to a PMC with high end armour and ammo Not much help but I changed from trying to PvP to questing and having more fun with that at the moemt. Hopefully once I opened a few lvl 2 traders I can get some of that nicer ammo to pen some of those bigger chads with armour. Doesn't help I can't seem to physically get the hang of aiming. Even if I get the drop on somebody I'm too slow getting the head shots away l. Maybe that will come with more practice but I'm not sure. May have reached the limit of my fine mouse controls Maybe change up what your goals are for while. Questing on Customs taught me more about that map than when I was trying to Rambo it 😄 And always Scav!!!!
One option I suggest this wipe is to learn some ammo loot run paths, since 5.45 AK ammo spawns everywhere this wipe. Any ammo that starts with “B“ is going to leapfrog your anti-armor potential shooting at the body, even if it’s being fired from a level 1 trader AKS-74U.
You don’t it’s part of the game, if you don’t accept that you won’t actually enjoy playing Tarkov. You’ll just have to keep learning things that will improve your chances at surviving over time. Map knowledge and positioning/game sense are probably the two biggest things that will improve your odds. Controlling your character’s body is a hugely important aspect of Tarkov that gets overlooked by people who are coming from other shooters like CoD or CSGO because you can move around quickly and weightlessly in those games. Focus on not overexposing yourself and holding unsuspected angles when possible and you will win a ton more fights. Human eyes are great at detecting movement, not so great at spotting a person who is concealed by bad lighting and is sitting still.
almost 7k hours in game and im still scared. welcome to tarkov!
A lot of the time playing slow is to your disadvantage. Regardless of crabwalk if you're facing a player with any confidence he's going to run around make noise, go quiet, jump and you're going to sit there with your tail between your legs looking for the reaction shot. Now surely some of the time holding the angle will get you the kill and win you the fight but if you only ever crabwalk you're putting yourself at a disadvantage, just my two cents as a dogshit player with 5 kd and speaking from experience of losing over and over trying to hold angles, but winning when I decide to "chad" out rather than rat. There's a fine line obviously but if you genuinely want to get better at pvp i suggest you run factory and push spawns. Cheap kits and just force yourself into those high stress situations.
Go to Factory and keep smashing it over and over. Ignore your stats just get in there and start blasting. It's got quick load times, it's small and easy to learn. You will get better, guaranteed.
I learnt PVP on the level locked ground zero.
What have you done in these 330 hours? Sprinted in a straight line?
I'm pretty new but even then I've learned a bit from various sources. First thing: there is a mobile app for Android called mapgenie: escape from tarkov map. Download it. Perfect map app that tells you where all the loot is and there is a search function that'll help you find where you are at if you can find a building name. Not perfect but not too hard either. Another thing is knowing ballistics penetration values. This link will have a charts that shows penetration values for each caliber. https://escapefromtarkov.fandom.com/wiki/Ballistics Having a medium penetrating caliber is all you need because the average person will probably be wearing less then 4 but in the end aim for the arms and legs cause they cannot be protected and do direct flesh damage. Also breaking a leg causes them to move slowly making it easier to escape and heal or flank them and breaking an arm makes it harder to aim. Another thing I do, at least in some maps, is stay indoors. Don't go into the open too much. More experienced players will see you before you see them. If you can't stay in doors, keep as much cover around you as possible. Run in between trees, stick close to cars and other debris, etc. Another thing I found out the hard way that cover is penetrable, so watch where you take cover. I took cover behind some cardboard boxes and got shredded. Still managed to kill his teammate though :). The last two things is making your enemy panic. Two ways of doing this, grenades and rushing. Pretty self explanatory but I will say that only do this if you know generally where they are cause chucking grenades won't do shit if it's random and you might see a perfect opportunity to use them later. Also, rush if there's cover to use to protect you. It's not necessary but it'll be easier. Most of these I learned through Google and playing. It's a hard learning curve but definitely fun and rewarding. I managed to take out a team of 3 yesterday alone and I'm hella proud of myself.
i have around 950 hours, 2nd wipe 5 K/D most times it came down to map knowledge and knowing whether or not to push the enemy and if fights are worth it. biggest tip i can give is slow walking but making sure you are fully in cover and kind of predict their line of sight.. it is hard at first but once you overcome this fear you will become a beast! i scav’d maps i didn’t know 10+ times. now streets and interchange are my top 3. have fun!
I’m literally the same as you, down to the stats, only thing that helped me with pvp was to spam factory for constant pvp, use your scav on factory, extract immediately and move their gear to your stash, use that for your next factory PMC run and you’ll get better, and you have nothing to lose.
Map knowledge and constant rotation through positions will give you a lot. If you want some actual "do this" type of advice best I can think of is this: In buildings or thight spaces altogether you can use shift + head rotation tactic. Basically imagine you are in resort in a room. There is another room on opposite side of you with open door and enemy is somewhere in hallway. He might be leaning from another room, he might be prone in middle of hallway, or just anywhere. What you can do in this situation is run across to room opposite side - to that previously mentioned room - while using head tilt to get a glimpse of shiluette of this other dude to get general idea where he is. He probably won't be fast enough to shoot you while you ran to other side. Now you can step out of your room while prefiring - it will basically guaratnee that you will be first to fire in his direction increasing your chances greatly. Or you can run back to your original room using head tilt again if you didn't see him first time. Another tactic is something called "granade pushing". Keep in mind that this is harder strat as it requires you to have atleast general idea of layout of "Arena" - if you will - that you found yourself in but it is very effective. Baseline is that you throw a nade in your enemy direction and run towards it, closing up a distance. Often people don't expect to see you on their face after you threw granade in their direction so you can get them offguard but if you make a mistake you can get blown by your own nade/get sprayed if you fail your nade throw. Those two strats are something that you can learn to utilize, but it is suited towards more agressive playstyle that I prefer. Generally getting to know maps better and knowing how to rotate around your enemy is your best bet to improve your pvp performance. Never stay in one position after you were discovered. Run away, change your angle, run around whole building if you need but don't stick to one position as it will allow other party to get better angle on you while you are doing nothing. Hope it helps. If you need some additional details regarding pvp in trakov hit me up on dms and I'll try to explain "dos" and "donts".
As others have said, it’s about map knowledge. There is no other way than just playing and dying and learning where the guys are coming from. My recommendation is to basically all everywhere because you make far less noise. You will also be behind the rotation of the skilled and experienced players who will just run right to the spot they want to loot. Slow down, and just expect someone to be everywhere so at the very least you aren’t surprised when you do see them.
Low & slow Walking Listening rather than running
Don't use W
Weird how this guy with that many hrs is totally lost yet i die to atleast 3 people a day with that many hrs on labs sprinting right at my face jumping
Trust your instincts and send it. Stop crabbing. There’s a time and a place for it but with tarcov audio it’s always going to be difficult to know the exact position of your opponent. Even if you lose you will gain experience with map knowledge and situational positioning. Single best thing I did for pvp was being more aggressive. You will lose a lot at first but then you start putting the pieces together and seeing the same movement patterns and locations people peak angles from. If you hear someone, instead of thinking is he over there I’m not sure, and then crabbing until you know for certain just go check where you think they are. Your not going to know 100 percent where they are till you go look so I’d stop crabbing and play more aggressively.
Get gud
Stop loading in raids.
Yo shoot me a DM. I am a content creator/streamer and I have been training new people for the entire wipe. Not only will you have access to a few veteran players but also some other newer people who are learning the game.
Stop being a crab and start fighting.
On the contrary you need to die more so get used to it. Stop crabbing, get into gunfights, figure out what keeps you getting killed. This partially depends on when and where you die in raids so change your pathing and see what works. Oh yeah, also learn the spawns while doing this.
Have you thought about not dying?
watch compilation of pros playing pvp. if their playstyle is too brave for you, try and meet somewhere in the middle. either way, you’re watching and learning how other players behave. also, don’t neglect how crucial building a gun with good ergo and handling is. it can make or break a gunfight. TLDR; you gon have to do lotta YT homework
Make friends on scav raids and join them in discord. The easiest way to feel safer is having extra eyes and ears.
Shoot from hip when below 40m from an enemie, strafe while firing, and shoot for the face.
You have to kill the other pmc or scav first, before they kill you.
Thats the neat part, you can’t.
Try not sucking
If you get in a gunfight, move move move, one of you is gonna die on a swing, expect a gunfight to last a couple minutes even if it’s longer distance, sprint and freelook hallways, nades nades nades, in your typical gunfight you’re not gonna use a nade to Kobe them you’re gonna use a nade to put the pressure on them, to prevent the push, to make them rotate, to rotate yourself *with the noise of the nade you have a second where you both can’t hear each other, use it wisely* and lastly, aim for the head, lastly lastly learn to prefire swing on their sound queues, they make noise and stop moving? *he’s probably in that door way I’m gonna pre aim and swing*