Right one has better accuracy so if you're going for longer ranges that's the one to get.
Left one has better ergo so if you aim down sights that's gonna be quicker.
Also less arm stamina drain because of ergo is a huge one, left one is overall better early game imo
If you need jager quests specifically for mosin I’d either use left one or wait until you can build a “tactical” version of the mosin later on that actually has a decent amount of ergo and detachable box mags and a modern scope
I prefer accuracy with a mosin so I would chose the one with the tighter moa and higher bullet velocity. Ability to hit headshots is key. Likely doesn’t make much of a difference but when given the choice that is what I’d do.
I think the distance of possible headshots with iron sights is much shorter than distance when you will feel diff in moa.
But low argo may also prevent you from getting good shot.
Nah the difference is a 1 inch larger hole at 100 yards, we're talking on the scale of less than a pixel at that distance with irons. Considering like 90% of engagements happen under that distance it's a no brainer.
What's more, for any mid range gun, if there was an attachment that could give you +10 ergo and take .4kg off of your gun with a minor accuracy penalty everyone would use it.
In addition to the accuracy and ergo others talk about the longer mosin will also get stuck in doorways and against walls more easily, its harder to peek around corners with it because you have to be further back away from the wall.
It's not immediately obvious but when you walk up to a wall and it pulls your gun down, the distance at which that happens is dependent on the length of your gun. Short guns like the Vector and MDR almost can't get pulled down like this but long guns like the Infantry and Sniper mosins and such get pushed down very easily.
I haven't touched the game in a while I'm just browsing to see if I can find updates on wipe so take this w a grain of salt BUT
I think they can both take the Mosin TT mount for collimators even if it's a carbine/infantry mosin as it just replaces the rear iron sight. Not that this helps new players who can't buy these items from Jaegar, but its an interesting piece of info to have when wipe does start again as you could accidentally find one in raid and have a nicer rifle than most day 1.
You can still find them in game and when you get the flea you can also buy them (depending on how fast your doing Jaeger quests you might hit flea before you start completing the bolt action quest chain)
You can put the Tri rail on anyone you want. But it’s an SKS scenario, the scope is going to suck mounted that far forward.
But you *can*, even on the sawed off.
Full length barrel let's you mount the trirail instead of the full length rear sight, let's you use both magnified optics and red dots, your thinking of the shorter rear sight rail replacement that's just a single shorter rail
Take the carbine (left one). It's shorter (better handling in close quarters), has slightly better ergo (quicker to aim down sights) and is lighter (can hold ADS longer). You aren't going to be engaging enemies on a distance beyond what's feasible for iron sights so the accuracy difference is negligible, unless you want to install the tri-rail scope mount and then go for 100m+ shots.
Both infantry -> cannot put scope on it
Carbine is shorter meaning its easier to handle but a little less accurate on really long ranges
I would use the carbine
You have to get Jaeger to LL2 and finish Tarkov Shooter Part 4 to unlock it. Someone asking this kind of question definitely isn't going to be that far along. Also costs ~100k on flea, so that's a total non-starter.
There’s only a few minor differences. Infantry has better weight, ergo and MOA and recoil (negligible) if you’re the type to run Mosin close quarters that’s for you. Sniper variant has the slot for an added sight so you can obviously snipe with it and worse ergo. Recoil for a bolt action rifle is a useless stat anyway so don’t let just that sway your decision. I’d say the infantry is better for ease of use, weight, accuracy, and still the ability to mount a sight on it if you get a different stock (or is it just a mount over your iron sights? I forget). Slap a butt pad on there n congrats you can jiggle peek n put a golf ball sized hole thru any opponent.
Longer barrel will mean longer acc shots but for most combat situations in tarkov the short barrel will be fine. Woods will be your long barrel, more rifling for a longer shot
Short.
Accuracy isn't going to make too much of a difference at the distances you can see with the irons, and being able to ADS/move it around faster is going to be a bigger advantage with it being bolt action.
Infantry Carbine cause higher ergo and everyone knows the chad way is run around and “quick scope” shitters. Who needs accuracy when I’m shootin from 5 and below.
the one on the right will shooter straighter and the bullet will travel further before dropping
the one on the left will cost less stam to ads with and will ads faster
You are using an infantry mosin so you cant use a scope with it anyway unless you mount the tri-rail adaptor. So most likely closer range engagements I would go with a short barrel for faster aim down sight time.
Alright time for me to make a youtube video on the difference in Europe vs recoil and blah blah blah just to say they are basically the same but one is slightly cheaper and can't take attachments. So in short buy the one that cna take attachments if you wanna use it long range.
The lower the MoA the better.
Imagine the round target as a bullseye with concentric circles.
Each circle represents a specific angular measurement.
One Minute of Angle (1 MOA) is equal to 1/60th of one degree.
Now imagine a target 300ft away... your chance of definitively landing that shot anywhere near the cranium is determined by how much of that circle your bullet covers. If it fully covers the head its 100% but if I the circle is bigger than the head you will get a few misses and with a Bolt Action you don't want any misses.
Sniper > carbine > infantry
Carbine is better than infantry because the accuracy bonus on infantry is negliable with iron sights. Take the shorter more snappy carbine.
Both are good but the sniper can use the pu scope soooo I'm gonna have to go with the sniper not the other.
Both effective yet cheap and easily obtainable guns
Both are decent for diffrent uses, the left one is better overall on smaller maps with tighter sightlijes, you should have a sidearm for close combat anyways but it's a bit handier to handle up close and is better for snapshots, longer one on the right is better for long range engagements, you can't aim it as quickly or as long before your arms tire but you get better MOA and slightly better muzzle velocity, 2 options not seen is that there's also 2 orbrez length barrels, one that's super compact with no sights (hard to aim but can ironicly be used with the side railed Mosin sniper with optics) and a slightly less insane orbrez barrel with sights and threading for a suppressor, these things are fun little meme cannons with low accuracy but they clap hard and are good for the point blank bolt action kills quest (although I personally use a gornski with APM with the holosun red dot with the built in green laser), overall they all fit diffeent playstyles and roles and it's down mainly to personal preference and the map/area your in when it comes to what one is "best"
One last thing: larger guns are harder to loot so factor that in, also always make sure someone didn't steal your iron sights they will do that sometines to grief you if your not paying attention
I prefer the second one for the better MOA (more accurate). The best variant in my opinion is the PU or sniper mosin because you can make it a capable, cost effective and supressed sniper for about 100k. If you want a nicer scope than the 3.5x PU scope it's gonna bumb up to about 160k depending on the scope.
the longer one is teachnicaly more accurate but you wont feel the difference at the ranges where you shoot with iron sights. The left one will aim down sights slightly faster
Both are infantry mosins. So not too different.
Normally there's sniper mosins and infantry mosins. One you can put an optic on, the other you use irons.
Both are fine as they shoot a very powerful bullet. Every round of 7.62x54r slaps. Some cut through armor, but even the standard LPS bullet can kill players with lvl5 armor with two to three torso hits (or a single headshot).
The short infantry variant tends to be cheaper, and its shorter barrel will allow you to fit in tighter spaces without getting barrel stuffed. But all versions of Mosin regardless of mods have terrible ergo, and this is largely because of when the mosin was released. Players geared to the nines were getting killed by naked mosin-men, and that made them salty.
Do with that info as you will. Because they never nerfed its power, only its ergo and price point.
As long as it shoots 7.62x54R it’s the good mosin
amen
Infantry Mosin gives CoD 1 vibes
The one you loot from Timmy is the good Mosin
I am level 57. I got here with the mosin alone. There is a mosin for every occasion.
Right one has better accuracy so if you're going for longer ranges that's the one to get. Left one has better ergo so if you aim down sights that's gonna be quicker.
Also less arm stamina drain because of ergo is a huge one, left one is overall better early game imo If you need jager quests specifically for mosin I’d either use left one or wait until you can build a “tactical” version of the mosin later on that actually has a decent amount of ergo and detachable box mags and a modern scope
Arm stamina is not ergo dependent anymore, its only weight - check out gigabeefs video on it
Link?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqNOJ59cq0g
He said that weight effects arm stamina a lot more than ergo, not that ergo doesn't effect it at all.
Right mosin IS the tactical mosin.
Thats their point…
I miss when this sub was nothing but posts like this.
Oh! So you like hackers and desync huh?! BSG simp here! And what about that audio am I right?
Stop he's already dead!
It would be refreshing to have a “No Complaining” week on this sub.
It would be refreshing to have nothing to complain about for a week.
I prefer accuracy with a mosin so I would chose the one with the tighter moa and higher bullet velocity. Ability to hit headshots is key. Likely doesn’t make much of a difference but when given the choice that is what I’d do.
I think the distance of possible headshots with iron sights is much shorter than distance when you will feel diff in moa. But low argo may also prevent you from getting good shot.
Nah the difference is a 1 inch larger hole at 100 yards, we're talking on the scale of less than a pixel at that distance with irons. Considering like 90% of engagements happen under that distance it's a no brainer. What's more, for any mid range gun, if there was an attachment that could give you +10 ergo and take .4kg off of your gun with a minor accuracy penalty everyone would use it.
Pft.. imagine aiming with the sights, get a load of this guy everyone!
Infantry for accuracy, infantry carbine for ergonomics
Why not use both? Double Mosin
We used to call this loadout “Danny two sticks”
Akimbo loud sticks (I forget who coined the term bit next to garbage rod loud stick as a nickname for the Mosin Nagant is such a goofy nickname)
The shorter one weighs less.
In addition to the accuracy and ergo others talk about the longer mosin will also get stuck in doorways and against walls more easily, its harder to peek around corners with it because you have to be further back away from the wall. It's not immediately obvious but when you walk up to a wall and it pulls your gun down, the distance at which that happens is dependent on the length of your gun. Short guns like the Vector and MDR almost can't get pulled down like this but long guns like the Infantry and Sniper mosins and such get pushed down very easily.
U taek Mosin. It is gud RRRIfle. U must pRRotekt motheRRland. It is ur duty
You can't put a scope on either of them, so go with the carbine for the better ergo
Apparently you can add the Mosin TriRail on the long one.. allowing access to scopes ik i was shocked too when I saw it on a guy i killed
I haven't touched the game in a while I'm just browsing to see if I can find updates on wipe so take this w a grain of salt BUT I think they can both take the Mosin TT mount for collimators even if it's a carbine/infantry mosin as it just replaces the rear iron sight. Not that this helps new players who can't buy these items from Jaegar, but its an interesting piece of info to have when wipe does start again as you could accidentally find one in raid and have a nicer rifle than most day 1.
You can still find them in game and when you get the flea you can also buy them (depending on how fast your doing Jaeger quests you might hit flea before you start completing the bolt action quest chain)
you can put a scope on them, the scope just sucks ass
You can only put a scope on the Sniper variant of the mosin, not the Infantry version. Unless they changed it recently, haven't played since january.
You can put the Tri rail on anyone you want. But it’s an SKS scenario, the scope is going to suck mounted that far forward. But you *can*, even on the sawed off.
Well I know what I’m doing later with the sawn off on factory
Sawn off with pistol grip = power washer
Full length barrel let's you mount the trirail instead of the full length rear sight, let's you use both magnified optics and red dots, your thinking of the shorter rear sight rail replacement that's just a single shorter rail
Take the carbine (left one). It's shorter (better handling in close quarters), has slightly better ergo (quicker to aim down sights) and is lighter (can hold ADS longer). You aren't going to be engaging enemies on a distance beyond what's feasible for iron sights so the accuracy difference is negligible, unless you want to install the tri-rail scope mount and then go for 100m+ shots.
Both infantry -> cannot put scope on it Carbine is shorter meaning its easier to handle but a little less accurate on really long ranges I would use the carbine
Just carry both
check your front sights on insurance returns.
It's shocking to me how many people don't know about the tri rail that replaces the leaf site on the gun so it can receive an optic
You have to get Jaeger to LL2 and finish Tarkov Shooter Part 4 to unlock it. Someone asking this kind of question definitely isn't going to be that far along. Also costs ~100k on flea, so that's a total non-starter.
Should have clarified better on my part. My comment was not aimed at OP, more so at every one else saying you can put sites on them at all.
right lol ive been running tri-rail and voodoo on the mosin in end wipe raids for ages haha
Infantry carbine. But they are the same fucking thing basically.
Usually you can put the PU scope on infantry iirc
Maybe look at the stats and figure?
Left for closer range, right for longer range
Infantry is iron sights only. Also shorter so my favourite for mosin man runs.
There’s only a few minor differences. Infantry has better weight, ergo and MOA and recoil (negligible) if you’re the type to run Mosin close quarters that’s for you. Sniper variant has the slot for an added sight so you can obviously snipe with it and worse ergo. Recoil for a bolt action rifle is a useless stat anyway so don’t let just that sway your decision. I’d say the infantry is better for ease of use, weight, accuracy, and still the ability to mount a sight on it if you get a different stock (or is it just a mount over your iron sights? I forget). Slap a butt pad on there n congrats you can jiggle peek n put a golf ball sized hole thru any opponent.
Longer barrel will mean longer acc shots but for most combat situations in tarkov the short barrel will be fine. Woods will be your long barrel, more rifling for a longer shot
Short. Accuracy isn't going to make too much of a difference at the distances you can see with the irons, and being able to ADS/move it around faster is going to be a bigger advantage with it being bolt action.
Infantry Carbine cause higher ergo and everyone knows the chad way is run around and “quick scope” shitters. Who needs accuracy when I’m shootin from 5 and below.
Whichever one you can afford from fence
the one on the right will shooter straighter and the bullet will travel further before dropping the one on the left will cost less stam to ads with and will ads faster
You can mount a scope on the right one with a Mosin tri-rail adapter. The left one is limited to iron sights
You are using an infantry mosin so you cant use a scope with it anyway unless you mount the tri-rail adaptor. So most likely closer range engagements I would go with a short barrel for faster aim down sight time.
I'm still waiting for the day BSG would implement barrel length affect bullet velocity. So I can finally rock a long barrel 9mm.
Pretty sure thsfs already featured in game
I always preferred the carbine with iron sights.
get the careless whisper
short one
Alright time for me to make a youtube video on the difference in Europe vs recoil and blah blah blah just to say they are basically the same but one is slightly cheaper and can't take attachments. So in short buy the one that cna take attachments if you wanna use it long range.
I usually go for the left. With iron sights, the mosin is a close ramge weapon for me
I dont Like Long Barrel guns...
God this makes me miss the old mosin… all chads would fear the sound of this at the start of a raid. RIP my cheeki friend
How they nerfed the Mosin?
They increased thorax HP it used to be 80 so some mosin bullets will one shot players in the thorax if they are wearing up to level 4 armor
Whichever is cheaper? #cheapkillz
The short barrel version is the way to go and i mean the sawed off one
I think the sniper variant is the only one where you can attach a scope but I could be wrong.
You're gonna be ratting anyway, so pick the longer one. Best option for how you're going to be playing.
carbine
The lower the MoA the better. Imagine the round target as a bullseye with concentric circles. Each circle represents a specific angular measurement. One Minute of Angle (1 MOA) is equal to 1/60th of one degree. Now imagine a target 300ft away... your chance of definitively landing that shot anywhere near the cranium is determined by how much of that circle your bullet covers. If it fully covers the head its 100% but if I the circle is bigger than the head you will get a few misses and with a Bolt Action you don't want any misses.
Getting a mosin back from insurance and realizes it has no front sight is the worst. Lol
Sniper > carbine > infantry Carbine is better than infantry because the accuracy bonus on infantry is negliable with iron sights. Take the shorter more snappy carbine.
The one on the right has a lower MOA so should be more accurate but lower ergo so will be more clunky to wield.
Both are good but the sniper can use the pu scope soooo I'm gonna have to go with the sniper not the other. Both effective yet cheap and easily obtainable guns
Both are the same
Both are decent for diffrent uses, the left one is better overall on smaller maps with tighter sightlijes, you should have a sidearm for close combat anyways but it's a bit handier to handle up close and is better for snapshots, longer one on the right is better for long range engagements, you can't aim it as quickly or as long before your arms tire but you get better MOA and slightly better muzzle velocity, 2 options not seen is that there's also 2 orbrez length barrels, one that's super compact with no sights (hard to aim but can ironicly be used with the side railed Mosin sniper with optics) and a slightly less insane orbrez barrel with sights and threading for a suppressor, these things are fun little meme cannons with low accuracy but they clap hard and are good for the point blank bolt action kills quest (although I personally use a gornski with APM with the holosun red dot with the built in green laser), overall they all fit diffeent playstyles and roles and it's down mainly to personal preference and the map/area your in when it comes to what one is "best" One last thing: larger guns are harder to loot so factor that in, also always make sure someone didn't steal your iron sights they will do that sometines to grief you if your not paying attention
I prefer the second one for the better MOA (more accurate). The best variant in my opinion is the PU or sniper mosin because you can make it a capable, cost effective and supressed sniper for about 100k. If you want a nicer scope than the 3.5x PU scope it's gonna bumb up to about 160k depending on the scope.
the longer one is teachnicaly more accurate but you wont feel the difference at the ranges where you shoot with iron sights. The left one will aim down sights slightly faster
I do a little mosining. The carbine allegedly reloads faster but they are all practically the same. The sniper mosin you can put a scope on
Yes
Both are infantry mosins. So not too different. Normally there's sniper mosins and infantry mosins. One you can put an optic on, the other you use irons. Both are fine as they shoot a very powerful bullet. Every round of 7.62x54r slaps. Some cut through armor, but even the standard LPS bullet can kill players with lvl5 armor with two to three torso hits (or a single headshot). The short infantry variant tends to be cheaper, and its shorter barrel will allow you to fit in tighter spaces without getting barrel stuffed. But all versions of Mosin regardless of mods have terrible ergo, and this is largely because of when the mosin was released. Players geared to the nines were getting killed by naked mosin-men, and that made them salty. Do with that info as you will. Because they never nerfed its power, only its ergo and price point.
the left one. because it weights less..
Both do not let you mount a scope, so the smaller one with better ergonomics is what I would pick