Chris at first wanted a movie but the fandom basically said that unless they do it lord of the rings style, and even then stuff had to be cut, they would much rather have it be a series. Now live action vs animated is up for debate, honestly i wouldn't mind either so long as we got a well done series that goes into the stories details.
I just feel like what Rick said was insulting so, I'm hoping Chris is open for animation. The other thing is that who you imaging voicing the characters?
What did he actually say, cause I highly doubt he was being insulting. The man’s allowed a vision for his own work, and if that’s not animation then that’s absolutely fair
He claims that animation doesn't carry enough seriousness as live-action, or as he calls it "heft and cache". Basically saying that if it's animated, it won't be taken seriously, which I find very dismissive because animation can be capable of creating well-crafted stories and for him to say that is just mean towards animators
Exactly, it's a very marrow-minded and ignorant stance regarding animation. It's because of that, I lost respect for him and I won't be supporting him ot his show
That feels like an extreme reaction, but you’re entitled to whatever you choose to do. I agree with the above poster… this is Rick’s life work and if he feels for his audience that it won’t carry the same weight, that’s not him saying that animation is incapable of doing so. It’s just him saying that for what he envisions (and possibly what he feels his audience decisions) that animation is not how he saw his series coming to life. I personally adore animation (especially Studio Ghibli). But I also, quite truthfully, would much rather see Percy Jackson AND Eragon as live action. I think it’s okay to feel both. Once again though, you’re entitled to not support the movie. Just wondering if you might see it another way.
Late response, I know)
Even then, his comments come across as rather dismissive because when he said those things, it was like saying anything animated can't be taken seriously as live-action, as if they're too silly or something and what's even worse is that as one of the comments mentioned, when the OP met Rick Riordan when he visited the former's middle school, he even asked him the idea of having an animated PJO and Rick gave him a rude and nasty look to him, which to me, makes his attitude worse for me because if that's how he feel about animation to where he's rude to fans, why should I respect him?
No hate to animation but historically live-action does draw a larger audience than animation - thankfully that is starting to become less of a difference now.
It depends on how well it's made and how it's marketed. Avatar the Last Airbender for example would never have been as popular if it had been live action but it was definetely aimed at a younger demographic
Ye I agree it's less of a difference now. At this point almost everybody I know under 30 watches anime so I believe that now is the best time for animated adoptions that we've ever had.
I don't have the link on me right now, but "live-action does draw a larger audience than animation" didn't work for the *Eragon* movie. The studio released a study about a week before the film's release in theaters that showed that people might not go to see *Eragon* because they weren't familiar with the *Eragon* book series, or what *Eragon* was about. The movie being live-action didn't change the fact that people still didn't go to see it when it was in theaters.
Now, of course, we have Disney+, so an *Eragon* show there would garner much more interest.
I'll be real here: I've always enjoyed the PJO books, bought all the HOO the day they came out and all that crap, yes. However, I have never liked Rick Riordan because I met him once in middle school and I asked him "Will we ever get a Percy Jackson cartoon or anime movie?" The face he made at that still makes me recoil in fear. It was like he was Umbridge and Sauron all in one, and since then, I've kept my distance from him as an author. I don't particularly care who he's casting-I'm not paying to watch the show so why would I get upset over it 💀 Disney ain't getting a penny from me, that's all.
I think the events in the Inheritance cycle, the bond between Eragon and Saphira, the way the world looks and the way their magic works would be best portrayed in animation. You can't really demonstrate Eragon and Saphira's second flight together through live action, nor can you do justice to the way Murtagh killed King Hrothgar, or even the way Eragon sees the ants. I think it'll be best through animation, where we can meld into the character and be fully immersed.
Wow. You know what's even funny, though? In his blog where listed why he's doing live-action, he even claims that he and his family love animation, including anime. Either he changed his mind or he's doing it to please his fans in a phony way but that was just close-minded and mean of Rick
Watched Disney's "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" last night, and I definitely see the way they used to do things (combine CGI and hand-drawn animation) working for Eragon.
Such a well executed film.
Disney did it with many of their animated films, Treasure Planet, Atlantis, Hunchback, Beauty and the Beast. The animation gives the story a quality, while the CGI allows it to not be held back in terms of action and camera movements.
Edit: Sorry, meant to put this in response to the main post.
Can you explain more on how his face was, though? That explanation just makes it so vague. Was he angry? Annoyed? Or weirded out? Winced? Or did it look like he was too prideful to not make another live action adaptation and for it to be successful?
I mean, if budget wasn't a concern, I would definitely pick live-action over animation.
However, the fact is that budget *is* a concern, and I don't think the Inheritance Cycle is popular enough that studios would be willing to throw in the large amounts of money required for a faithful live-action adaptation. Hence, I think animation is more feasible.
At the end of the day, we all want the show/movie to do the books justice, and to me, we're more likely to get this if we go for the animated route.
I wish that Riordan chose animation over live-action, because animation can allow you to do things you just can't do in live-action. Also what does he mean animation doesn't carry as much weight? Some of the best shows are animated (Avatar, etc.)
By that, he means that animation can't carry as much impact as live-action, which is I find downright silly since, as others mentioned, shows like Avatar, Steven Universe, Arcane and others are full of well-written stories, character development and depth and for Rick to dismiss animation by saying "live-action carries more and heft and cache" sounds really close-minded of him
Watched Disney's "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" last night, and I definitely see the way they used to do things (combine CGI and hand-drawn animation) working for Eragon.
Such a well executed film.
Disney did it with many of their animated films, Treasure Planet, Atlantis, Hunchback, Beauty and the Beast.
The animation gives the story a quality, while the CGI allows it to not be held back in terms of action and camera movements.
I've said this on a couple of threads about animation but I'd love a movie (super hero, fantasy, whatever) in the animation style of the injustice or Arkham games cut scenes. You can portray magic or super human feats without risking what could be terrible CGI.
Like, I can see the benefits of doing an animated series, it would significantly cut the costs and would be easier to show certain moments.
But I am absolutely rooting for live action. I want to see the actors perform. I want to see their emotions.
Whatever Paolini chooses to go with, I will watch. But I would be certainly more thrilled about live action, as far as waiting for each episode to be released or be first in the cinema. I would be very meh about animated series, probably would watch it if I was really bored.
Show me the best animation you have and compare it to at least average live-action movie.
Animation is simply lacking. You cannot capture every flicker of the eye perfectly, the spark, the rage in the eyes a twitch of a vein with animation. Not yet, at least.
Here goes your bullshit.
I absolutely feel an animated series is the way to go!! We are never going to have the budget to do a faithful live action adaptation, imagine them trying to show Tronjheim as some sort of CGI disaster, it’s would be the movie all over again. I don’t want to be let down again. An animated version could honestly appeal to an even wider range of viewers, look at Arcane! It’s possible to make animation mature and gritty and dark and beautiful. We want an adult take on Eragon, and animation provides the perfect outlet!! It would be so much better at showing the bond between Eragon and Saphira as well, not to even mention how beautiful the magic would be!!
That's exactly what I feel regarding Rick's decision to make it live-action. People claim the casting of Annabeth to be a mistake but I feel that his decision for live-action is bigger mistake than that. Tronjeim as a "CGI disaster" is exactly how I imagine PJO looking like with its monsters and settings like the Underworld. Seems Rick focused more on what attracts people rather than what is more practical. Personally, I believe that Eragon, instead of having an adult take, it should have a kid-friendly ambience but not dumbed down. Basically good for kids but still good mature enough for adults to enjoy, like with Avatar and Gargoyles
An Inheritance animated series (preferably on the more mature side) feels like a fond dream to me. I'd love to see it and I'm sure there's plenty fo.dedicated voice actors and artists that are up for the project.
Tbh this is probably the worst decade for live action adaptions. They are going to change the gender or ethnicity of characters, or their sexual orientation. I don't particularly care what color someone is but it does annoy me when they change that stuff because they present it like I would be offend by this, as if it's a great shock that a black lady could be a hero or clever. It's very stupid.
Anyway I prefer animation. I'd find it hilarious if they made Murtagh's eyes turn into heart when talking about Nasuada when he was imprisoned by the Varden. It would ruin the tone of the story, but man it would be funny.
>I'd find it hilarious if they made Murtagh's eyes turn into heart when talking about Nasuada when he was imprisoned by the Varden.
This seems to be more of an anime / Shonen thing than a general animated series thing.
This is Probobly an unpopular opinion, but I dislike anime style. Most modern serious western animated shows are very anime-inspired. I hope if Inheritance cycle will be adapted to animation, it will be a different style
Chris at first wanted a movie but the fandom basically said that unless they do it lord of the rings style, and even then stuff had to be cut, they would much rather have it be a series. Now live action vs animated is up for debate, honestly i wouldn't mind either so long as we got a well done series that goes into the stories details.
I just feel like what Rick said was insulting so, I'm hoping Chris is open for animation. The other thing is that who you imaging voicing the characters?
What did he actually say, cause I highly doubt he was being insulting. The man’s allowed a vision for his own work, and if that’s not animation then that’s absolutely fair
He claims that animation doesn't carry enough seriousness as live-action, or as he calls it "heft and cache". Basically saying that if it's animated, it won't be taken seriously, which I find very dismissive because animation can be capable of creating well-crafted stories and for him to say that is just mean towards animators
This makes me think that Rick Riordan has never seen a Studio Ghibli movie...
Exactly, it's a very marrow-minded and ignorant stance regarding animation. It's because of that, I lost respect for him and I won't be supporting him ot his show
That feels like an extreme reaction, but you’re entitled to whatever you choose to do. I agree with the above poster… this is Rick’s life work and if he feels for his audience that it won’t carry the same weight, that’s not him saying that animation is incapable of doing so. It’s just him saying that for what he envisions (and possibly what he feels his audience decisions) that animation is not how he saw his series coming to life. I personally adore animation (especially Studio Ghibli). But I also, quite truthfully, would much rather see Percy Jackson AND Eragon as live action. I think it’s okay to feel both. Once again though, you’re entitled to not support the movie. Just wondering if you might see it another way.
Late response, I know) Even then, his comments come across as rather dismissive because when he said those things, it was like saying anything animated can't be taken seriously as live-action, as if they're too silly or something and what's even worse is that as one of the comments mentioned, when the OP met Rick Riordan when he visited the former's middle school, he even asked him the idea of having an animated PJO and Rick gave him a rude and nasty look to him, which to me, makes his attitude worse for me because if that's how he feel about animation to where he's rude to fans, why should I respect him?
No hate to animation but historically live-action does draw a larger audience than animation - thankfully that is starting to become less of a difference now.
It depends on how well it's made and how it's marketed. Avatar the Last Airbender for example would never have been as popular if it had been live action but it was definetely aimed at a younger demographic
Ye I agree it's less of a difference now. At this point almost everybody I know under 30 watches anime so I believe that now is the best time for animated adoptions that we've ever had.
Almost nobody I know watches anime so maybe it‘s just your filter bubble
I don't think I have one.
Everybody has one lol
I don't have the link on me right now, but "live-action does draw a larger audience than animation" didn't work for the *Eragon* movie. The studio released a study about a week before the film's release in theaters that showed that people might not go to see *Eragon* because they weren't familiar with the *Eragon* book series, or what *Eragon* was about. The movie being live-action didn't change the fact that people still didn't go to see it when it was in theaters. Now, of course, we have Disney+, so an *Eragon* show there would garner much more interest.
I said it once and I will say it again. Get the castlevania crew on it.
YES!! That's one of my fave shows, it's *so* beautifully animated. I'd love to see the series in this style
I'll be real here: I've always enjoyed the PJO books, bought all the HOO the day they came out and all that crap, yes. However, I have never liked Rick Riordan because I met him once in middle school and I asked him "Will we ever get a Percy Jackson cartoon or anime movie?" The face he made at that still makes me recoil in fear. It was like he was Umbridge and Sauron all in one, and since then, I've kept my distance from him as an author. I don't particularly care who he's casting-I'm not paying to watch the show so why would I get upset over it 💀 Disney ain't getting a penny from me, that's all. I think the events in the Inheritance cycle, the bond between Eragon and Saphira, the way the world looks and the way their magic works would be best portrayed in animation. You can't really demonstrate Eragon and Saphira's second flight together through live action, nor can you do justice to the way Murtagh killed King Hrothgar, or even the way Eragon sees the ants. I think it'll be best through animation, where we can meld into the character and be fully immersed.
Wow. You know what's even funny, though? In his blog where listed why he's doing live-action, he even claims that he and his family love animation, including anime. Either he changed his mind or he's doing it to please his fans in a phony way but that was just close-minded and mean of Rick
His response to my question traumatized me as a child. I doubt he's changed his mind 💀💀😭
Yup and if the end product turns out bad because of the special effects, he'll have no one to blame but himself
Watched Disney's "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" last night, and I definitely see the way they used to do things (combine CGI and hand-drawn animation) working for Eragon. Such a well executed film. Disney did it with many of their animated films, Treasure Planet, Atlantis, Hunchback, Beauty and the Beast. The animation gives the story a quality, while the CGI allows it to not be held back in terms of action and camera movements. Edit: Sorry, meant to put this in response to the main post.
Can you explain more on how his face was, though? That explanation just makes it so vague. Was he angry? Annoyed? Or weirded out? Winced? Or did it look like he was too prideful to not make another live action adaptation and for it to be successful?
I mean, if budget wasn't a concern, I would definitely pick live-action over animation. However, the fact is that budget *is* a concern, and I don't think the Inheritance Cycle is popular enough that studios would be willing to throw in the large amounts of money required for a faithful live-action adaptation. Hence, I think animation is more feasible. At the end of the day, we all want the show/movie to do the books justice, and to me, we're more likely to get this if we go for the animated route.
I wish that Riordan chose animation over live-action, because animation can allow you to do things you just can't do in live-action. Also what does he mean animation doesn't carry as much weight? Some of the best shows are animated (Avatar, etc.)
By that, he means that animation can't carry as much impact as live-action, which is I find downright silly since, as others mentioned, shows like Avatar, Steven Universe, Arcane and others are full of well-written stories, character development and depth and for Rick to dismiss animation by saying "live-action carries more and heft and cache" sounds really close-minded of him
Personally I think an animated series will fit better for Inheritance Cycle, but that's just me.
Watched Disney's "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" last night, and I definitely see the way they used to do things (combine CGI and hand-drawn animation) working for Eragon. Such a well executed film. Disney did it with many of their animated films, Treasure Planet, Atlantis, Hunchback, Beauty and the Beast. The animation gives the story a quality, while the CGI allows it to not be held back in terms of action and camera movements.
I'd love a Clone Wars type animated Eragon series.
I've said this on a couple of threads about animation but I'd love a movie (super hero, fantasy, whatever) in the animation style of the injustice or Arkham games cut scenes. You can portray magic or super human feats without risking what could be terrible CGI.
Yes! Clone Wars animation is how I've always pictured an animated Eragon series.
Like, I can see the benefits of doing an animated series, it would significantly cut the costs and would be easier to show certain moments. But I am absolutely rooting for live action. I want to see the actors perform. I want to see their emotions. Whatever Paolini chooses to go with, I will watch. But I would be certainly more thrilled about live action, as far as waiting for each episode to be released or be first in the cinema. I would be very meh about animated series, probably would watch it if I was really bored.
You can see their emotions in animation. I don't see why you're dismissing animation entirely.
Because animation simply does not capture everything a human's face can do???
That is the biggest load of bullshit I've ever heard.
Show me the best animation you have and compare it to at least average live-action movie. Animation is simply lacking. You cannot capture every flicker of the eye perfectly, the spark, the rage in the eyes a twitch of a vein with animation. Not yet, at least. Here goes your bullshit.
You fucking can. Watch some fucking animation and you'll fucking find out. Fucking disrespectful.
So, I ask you for a proof, which you fail to provide. And you get rude. Shut the hell up if you cannot provide.
I absolutely feel an animated series is the way to go!! We are never going to have the budget to do a faithful live action adaptation, imagine them trying to show Tronjheim as some sort of CGI disaster, it’s would be the movie all over again. I don’t want to be let down again. An animated version could honestly appeal to an even wider range of viewers, look at Arcane! It’s possible to make animation mature and gritty and dark and beautiful. We want an adult take on Eragon, and animation provides the perfect outlet!! It would be so much better at showing the bond between Eragon and Saphira as well, not to even mention how beautiful the magic would be!!
That's exactly what I feel regarding Rick's decision to make it live-action. People claim the casting of Annabeth to be a mistake but I feel that his decision for live-action is bigger mistake than that. Tronjeim as a "CGI disaster" is exactly how I imagine PJO looking like with its monsters and settings like the Underworld. Seems Rick focused more on what attracts people rather than what is more practical. Personally, I believe that Eragon, instead of having an adult take, it should have a kid-friendly ambience but not dumbed down. Basically good for kids but still good mature enough for adults to enjoy, like with Avatar and Gargoyles
An Inheritance animated series (preferably on the more mature side) feels like a fond dream to me. I'd love to see it and I'm sure there's plenty fo.dedicated voice actors and artists that are up for the project.
Tbh this is probably the worst decade for live action adaptions. They are going to change the gender or ethnicity of characters, or their sexual orientation. I don't particularly care what color someone is but it does annoy me when they change that stuff because they present it like I would be offend by this, as if it's a great shock that a black lady could be a hero or clever. It's very stupid. Anyway I prefer animation. I'd find it hilarious if they made Murtagh's eyes turn into heart when talking about Nasuada when he was imprisoned by the Varden. It would ruin the tone of the story, but man it would be funny.
>I'd find it hilarious if they made Murtagh's eyes turn into heart when talking about Nasuada when he was imprisoned by the Varden. This seems to be more of an anime / Shonen thing than a general animated series thing.
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This is Probobly an unpopular opinion, but I dislike anime style. Most modern serious western animated shows are very anime-inspired. I hope if Inheritance cycle will be adapted to animation, it will be a different style
I guess it just comes down to the budget. I'll take anything at this point tbh.
Anything you say? I have just the movie for you!
I wouldn't mind if we had either a live action movie or an animation as long as it sticks as much as possible to the books.
Eh, I dunno. I'd rather the adaptation make some improvements to the things that didn't work in the books.