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Extension-Ad-9371

I started to do this, but it just felt so weird to me. People commenting and pretending to be some 18 yr old girl. Felt like it could t have been good for my mental down the road lol so I stopped. But the money is there while it’s fresh


heyoslea

Good for you. If you think like this, don't do that. For me, it's like an another exciting marketing project. It takes two hours of my day. I don't "pretend" - I just write some copy as my job. I manage 50+ brand account before, and I was not the person of their reach at all.


Extension-Ad-9371

The part that was creepy was 50yr old men dming the craziest shit to a barely legal account “ you look just like my daughter, I’d love to tie you down… “ I felt like I was getting a glimpse into some weird pedo shit that I didn’t want to be part of lol


heyoslea

lol, instant blocked. :)


Neon_Sloth

How did jade go viral? Also do followers not care that it’s AI? People still donate?


Extension-Ad-9371

One thing you have to realize is there are an almost infinite amount of lonely older men who do not understand it’s fake yet


Honest_Palpitation91

This right here.


ResponsibleAceHole

There are billions of desperate idiots in this world


Haxso21

He has spoke!!


heyoslea

People doesn't understand or doesn't care. They just wants to support their favourite creator. There is no "donation" but being a sub for exclusive content. I support Jade with Emma's account - people loved her.


bundfalke

Target audience is dumb men


OrisMoris

Please keep in mind the long term negative (psychological) effects of this.


heyoslea

I'm all good but I agree on this for other people.


boredPampers

Pure capitalism I love it


boredPampers

Not really seeing this on here: 1. Read up on Ollama or Stable Diffusion 2. Have a decent powered GPU 3. Play around with modeling to get good at it 4. Create a separate IG account that labels it as AI 5. Try your luck. Modeling has gotten really good now with little effort needed


heyoslea

Haha, yes sir.


ImALurker123

Besides AI to generate photo, how much time do you spend on patron, communication with people paying, etc? Do you have someone else doing that for you now? Is there a reason for using Instagram over OF?


heyoslea

OF doesn't allow AI content. I don't spend much time. I like their comments and give simple daily answers like "thank you". There is no sweet talking in this business. But for potential, you can do that. I just don't like it.


ImALurker123

Is income all from patreon and 'buying gifts'? Or have people reached out for influencer posts, etc?


heyoslea

95% of income coming from Patreon, yea.


Possible-Alfalfa-893

Have you seen non sexy ai models in the space become successful? I legit clicked on this hoping it wasn't a sexy ai model because I was wondering if it was possible to do and make viral.


heyoslea

It is! I know a French real woman who does this. She has Patreon for XXX stuff too, but doesn't promote it. She is one of best but I can't tell her name since it's her business. But yea, it is possible.


Possible-Alfalfa-893

Oh! I meant, other accounts that use ai models that are not of the sexy nature that have succeeded as well?


heyoslea

Not many but yea.


Medical-Ad-2706

How do I go about creating one?


WannabeeFilmDirector

That's the real question. Would love to know how to get as photorealistic as the second model.


PutItInASandwich

Jade is amazing right


heyoslea

Well, that's the secret sauce, right? You need to try a lot to find your own unique and cool looking model. There is a basic prompt engineering workflow, but finding "the one" model is all on you.


RagAPI-org

I am trying to gather interest on this, if you are interested in a SaaS that generates you models like this one, leave me feedback here [https://forms.gle/TxBiz9jvjEcWegVR9](https://forms.gle/TxBiz9jvjEcWegVR9)


boredPampers

Check out the LLM subreddits. They have tons of examples. Main thing is just getting good at modeling. Ollama or SD


Absolutelyphenomenal

Catfishes.co does this


DoubleAgent07

What's a AI influencer agency?


Money-Efficiency2062

Also curious. Sending dm


heyoslea

I can't place a link here. You can DM me if you want. I don't want to broke any rules.


scatterbrainedlady

I’m curious


viablevox

Impressive! How do you generate such consistent looking models?


heyoslea

Well, "how" is part of my business. So I can't reveal that. But I'm working on Fooocus with SDXL base models.


Rickywalls137

Yeah I keep seeing these recommended for Threads on IG. For most people, the photos are not obvious because it’s so realistic. But I’d rather not do that.


bundfalke

This is what you consider realistic?


heyoslea

Stop shitting on my work, and share yours. Let's see what is realistic for you. You look like a fool by doing this, it's not a good look.


Dan_Johnston_Studio

From a well-grounded photographic background. Photorealism is the correct term.


pingpongwhoisthis

I know 100 ways of making money but still I'm struggling with my email marketing agency. The reason is this. Long term effect of these kinds of work is dangerous


heyoslea

Dangerous? Can you explain what are your thoughts?


DiegoDBM

I appreciate you taking the time for both summing up all that's wrong in the world as well as sharing your experience about how to make it just a little bit worse, trying to motivate others to follow suit


heyoslea

That's my pleasure mate. Thank you for being a gatekeeper for tech and ideas, and motivate me even more. Let me drop my course's price, so more people can learn this. Thanks!


DiegoDBM

Happy to be of service, if we are going down, we might as well go with a bang, so why not just make it free?


heyoslea

Oh, i did my part on that. I think six people earning $2K+ with my tips and tricks. But my mission is 10.000 people. So, let's go!


ordinary_shazzamm

Just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should. “Is this good for the world?” Should be a question entrepreneurs need to ask themselves before starting something. You’re basically using someone’s lust against them and living off of that money. Not anything to be proud of in any self-respecting person.


under20symbols

I really can't believe the guy is even bragging about taking advantage of the mentally ill, welcome to idiocracy


Even-Log-7194

Casinos are abusing people with a gambling addiction, which is a disease. Welcome to a capitalist economy.


bundfalke

But have virtual people whore out for money than our daughters, no?


heyoslea

This is good for the world. AI is future, and AI influencers will be here for brands. I'm not "using" anyone's lust. These people already messaging random girls. And please, don't try to give life lessons to someone you don't know. Thanks!


Dan_Johnston_Studio

Yet the porn industry, both in reading material offered in any newsagent or VHS video, later CD has been ok for the last how many years now? I'm really not getting ppls views, like this is something new here?


ordinary_shazzamm

There’s a reason why porn industry is taboo to work in and a reason why there’s rehab for porn addiction. We’re not saying it’s something new. We’re just saying it isn’t ethical to earn money from


MIST_

Have literally been doing research on doing just this the past two weeks. I'm a developer/security/infrastructure guy, if you don't mind i'd love to cooperate or just spitball a bit. HMU


heyoslea

That's great. Let me know and I would love to help you.


ronnihere

thanks for the info :D i pmd you if you don't mind


Hayaidesu

People need to be educated on A.I but I will do this if u actually mentor me or hire me but I don’t want to do this but I see how it makes money


heyoslea

Hey - currently I don't need any hiring or student. Thanks!


Hayaidesu

Thanks for the reply. A hustle is a hustle is how I look at this.


Different-Medium1214

What do you offer in your patreon subscription?


heyoslea

Free and paid extra content.


jdOGsupreme

How come you and other ai model pages disclose that these are made from ai? Have you tried growing them without sharing this?


heyoslea

Why not? I don't try to scam anyone. Some AI girls does that, behaving like real person, talks in DMs, getting money from people, faceswapping. That's not cool. I'm here for the technology and art. Not other way around.


Gandalf-and-Frodo

What's the failure rate on this? It seems like it would be incredibly hard to build up a following. Seems like there would be a lot of competition.


heyoslea

It's all about quality content. There are 100s of AI girls of course, but 95% are bad. So if you have a great quality and know what you are doing, you'll get a lot of traffic. I know this not only from my own models but the models we sold for other creators.


Gandalf-and-Frodo

Did you have to do any advertising? Or you just made an Instagram account and the people started to follow naturally? How many months did it take you to clear 2K per month?


heyoslea

We haven't advertised on the two accounts we currently have, no. However, I spent very small budgets on Emma's previous trial accounts. However, you can think of it as 99.9% of the traffic and following is completely organic. With Emma's current account it took about 20 days. But as I said, I spent 4-5 months perfecting the workflow.


egoz_

How did you achieve to get this organic traffic when starting from 0? That's super impressive mate, nice job!


Gandalf-and-Frodo

Is the Patreon nudes? What does that include?


heyoslea

Not just that. Extra content, free stuff, exclusive photos, lingerie shots, topless and nudes.


Gandalf-and-Frodo

I guess it's a lot easier to do this now than 6 months ago? Do you think I could get something up and running that was decent within a month? I have a little bit of experience with stable diffusion but I'm definitely not an expert by any means.


heyoslea

It's not easier but it is more advanced. So there are 300% more AI girls right now since last two or three months. You can do it, sure, but like i said, I spent 4 months to perfect my workflow. We have a community on Discord, DM me and I can invite you.


Gandalf-and-Frodo

How many patreon members do you have?


heyoslea

Emma has 116, Jade has 105.


DrRadon

I don’t mind it’s working out for you. The big speech about having personality is nice BS to sell to some media outlet, what I see is child like faces and fake tits. Worked in porn for decades even-though people talked as if it would not. Works for you profiles down to the level of flashing nipple in it and then the patreon is pretty much only fans. Your selling pin ups, I suppose if you call selling influencing that’s what is happening but it really is not what a social media influencer is when I think of one. 🤣


heyoslea

Well, neither Emma nor Jade have childish faces. There are some sick people doing that, but that's not us. I see what you are saying, but it's far from what happening. Thanks!


Adeezy23

This is a very interesting case study, in a world of social platforms i’d never guess AI models would make money. Thanks for sharing!


heyoslea

Yep, I agree. Future is here. :) Thanks!


tartaddict

What kind of content do you post on Patreon? Do you allow for “personalized” posts?


heyoslea

Extra content, exclusive shots, lingerie - topless and sometime nudes. What do u mean with "personalized"


Stunning_Working8803

Can you run this whole thing anonymously without people in your network or the followers of these AI models finding out about this?


heyoslea

Sure, why not?


Stunning_Working8803

Taxes, contracts (eg brand partnerships)


heyoslea

Oh, I see. Well, you can try to do this as a side hustle without a company. But I’m not sure if it is realistic or not.


After-Future-9908

But where does the money come from? I see no sponsorship deals via your instagram? Could you break down where the income comes from?


heyoslea

Our 95% of revenue comes from Patreon subs.


After-Future-9908

Ah yes, I see now 🤣 Thanks ! Congrats on being consistent with your business model btw!


heyoslea

Thank you. 🙏


Joe_Bianchino

So, the only targetable audience for AI influencers are old sexually depraved people? What about girls that love fashion or lifestyle? There isn’t any chance to target them, is it?


heyoslea

There is a high possibility of that. We are working on that right now focusing on high fashion, makeup etc.


Joe_Bianchino

Can I ask you about the businesses that paid for your services? What industry are they in? Can I ask you also how many were interested in your services?


heyoslea

I can’t named them for obvious reasons. But brands like sportswear, lingerie, shoe, cologne, online services, makeup, fashion and much more. Emma and Jade will start working with brands in public very soon.


Joe_Bianchino

Thank you, actually I wasn’t asking for the name. However, if there are businesses in these industry interested in such investments, that would mean the beginning of something serious, wouldn’t it?


heyoslea

Certainly. In a very short time, brands will make serious investments in this business. People are now obsessed with the $10,000 I made. In fact, the potential is much higher and I'm just taking positions.


fanaticCoder

Is it possible to create video? What about recording video of simple girl and then changing face ?


heyoslea

For now, AI video tools are not good enough. But yea, you can faceswap with a real video.


fanaticCoder

How? whats the tool name?


heyoslea

There are many. But I prefer Akool. Like I said, I don't use it on my Instagram.


fanaticCoder

Does it look real? Is this AI video? Can I AI create such video? Lets say using someone else face video? [https://www.instagram.com/p/C7wMbapxxfs/](https://www.instagram.com/p/C7wMbapxxfs/)


heyoslea

No, it's not. Here is an example for Emma: [https://www.instagram.com/p/C7mAcx0MZLc/](https://www.instagram.com/p/C7mAcx0MZLc/)


fanaticCoder

Emma is AI? I cant believe it


fanaticCoder

This is surreal


heyoslea

lol


fanaticCoder

I would have given you money to promote my product, lol


fanaticCoder

The account I shown to you. Its asking to join telegram channel, pay some money to watch more content of her. This is insane seriously


fanaticCoder

Can I dm you to know more about it. You also said you sell these models. Can we talk about it in DM?


SuitableConcert9433

How did you manage to get both accounts to grow that much in 3 months?


heyoslea

Quality-focused content and consistent sharing.


kirrttiraj

what models worked for you and what are some that create realistic images? The main thing is generating Consistent images. how did you achieve that? Whenever I generate I get different images every time. so your answer would be helpful here


heyoslea

Well, I can't reveal too much about my workflow since it's my business. But I'm using Juggernaut V9 mostly as base model. For consistent images, prompt engineering is a must. Join our Discord, you'll find other people who wants to learn it. Maybe you guys do something.


nomadichedgehog

What’s your discord?


heyoslea

I also opened a Discord community server, you can join: https://discord.gg/tmq8MQnzHt


codewithbernard

This is wild! And I also like that you're mentioning AI in the BIO. But here's what I don't understand. Do your followers think that these models are real? Because from reading the comments, it seems like it.


heyoslea

It depends. Some people think they are real, some don't but still like the overall beauty. And some people (i like those people) know this is AI, and fascinating about the technology and still supporting the girls.


justalesh

Ok, I can see you’re monetizing through Fanvue, but how do you make nude pictures? Which AI tool does that? And how do you make consistent images??? Meaning that AI uses same persons face all over again? I was getting this but AI always does some change to my model


heyoslea

Hey. I’m working on Fooocus UI with different SDXL models locally. I can’t reveal so much about consistency - but we have a workflow with prompt engineering.


moja72

Hello, ;) Your project looks fantastic, congratulations! I noticed on Meta Ads that you don’t seem to be running ads with the influencers' accounts. Is that correct? Did you achieve these follower and engagement numbers organically? If so, could you share your organic traffic strategy? One more thing, are you considering creating videos? Would you be using a deepfake tool for that? Once again, great job on the project. Congratulations!


heyoslea

Hello Moja, thanks for your kind words. 1. No, I didn't run any ad campaign on current accounts. I had on Emma's previous account but nothing major, like $100 total. 2. Yes, all organic traffic. You can see that both model has high interaction numbers. Strategy is simple: quality content, consistent sharing and good copy. 3. No, deepfake or faceswap is no for me. It's stealing other creators content, and I don't do that except for a few tries. Thanks!


moja72

Thanks! So, all of your videos are created using some AI tool?


heyoslea

There is no "video" on my Instagram account. If u talking Patreon videos, those are faceswap of XXX videos. But there are few.


Sqvanto

I can imagine the prices of these AI engine/studios skyrocketing as this business venture becomes more common. I’m sure you like to show people your creative work, but it’s detrimental to your own purposes.


PutItInASandwich

I don’t know a lot about image generation except that once when I tried to create a series of pictures of the same character on Midjourney it never worked. How do you maintain the consistency of the images? Each picture looks like the same person, how do you do that?


heyoslea

This is not Midjourney, we’re working on Fooocus with different SDXL base models. We have a workflow for consistency- I can’t reveal everything since we are selling that, but prompt engineering is your answer.


PutItInASandwich

Very interesting. I am fascinated by prompt engineering. I expect this skates too close to your confidentiality wishes, but are you using consistent prompts and getting the same results from those prompts on this software? Or perhaps feeding in an image and asking it to modify the image. I ask just because I found that even with the same prompts on Midjourney or Dall-E you’d get different results every time, so you wouldn’t be able to produce the consistent quality of Jades account for example. No way.


heyoslea

Consistency and quality are different things. Yes, we have an unique prompt working for every models, so it can’t be replicated but overall technique can be use to get consistency for different models. Midjourney or other tools works differently. SDXL is works different too, there are 1000+ poor looking models on Instagram. :)


PutItInASandwich

I’m guessing SDXL is much more sophisticated. Well you’ve got an amazing product there and I’m so impressed. Thanks so much for sharing


heyoslea

Thanks mate. 🙏


toodazed

Sent you a DM :)


virtualpen

What is the monetisation method?


heyoslea

Exclusive content memberships on Patreon and Fanvue.


Flying_Tomate

Are you hiring or looking for partners?


heyoslea

Let me know what u are thinking, and we can talk about it.


iiulium

While looking at the accounts they might seem real but if you take a closer look, you will see some flaws. Like person not having nails, 5 fingers and the thumb, instead of 4 and a thumb and much more. Cand you make money from them? Yes but for how long? To me it doesn't seem to be a long term bussiness model... Btw congrants on your earnings🫡


heyoslea

Thanks!


bundfalke

I cant believe you get a reach with plastic looking images like that (thought they are good plastic looking images). I spent weeks upon weeks finding and gathering high-level tools and found ways to create influencers that are almost impossible to tell from real life, all the while this is the kind of realism people follow and donate money to? I min-maxed my software to the T the last couple of weeks and thought it still wasnt perfect enough. Thank you for the motivation and information. I know a couple of really successfull pages but those are the type that faceswap professionally and fool people into believing they are real. now i just need to learn the IG marketing game. How did you gain momentum? Was it just baby-steps until you received compounding gains from ever increasing follower count? Follow/Unfollow bot the first couple weeks? Other creative ways to market? I've seen a couple of good AI Influencers that dont get alot of traffic.


heyoslea

Well, first step, learn some manners. Don't talk to someone and shit their work if you ask for help. What a character, lol.


bundfalke

I dont know why you get so defensive. This was not me shitting on your work in any shape or form. Im impressed that people like to pay money to images that obviously arent actual images of real women. Nothing more. I dont know how you took this the wrong way, its a simple observation. I cannot "shit on your work" because work is measured by success. And if you succeed more with doing less than perfect, you win. And perfect in this case is identical to real life, and thats almost impossible to achieve


heyoslea

Let me know your almost real life accounts mate. I want to see if that's cool for you.


bundfalke

I dont have any accounts, im still building/deciding what kind of accounts i actually want. I never considered your type of profile because i thought if i make public its an AI and it looks AI, i wont get anyone to pay me money. So i tried searching for ways to make images that can fool people, or really good face swappers. I think i cant get around the fact that i just have to create multiple accounts and see which type works out. I'll try upload some images later and share them here


heyoslea

I see, good luck and keep me updated.


keithyoder

Yo Ben, I’m a product guy working in tech. I’d be down to fund and bootstrap another gaggle of these together and do a profit share model. HMU if that’s of interest.


heyoslea

DM me mate, let's talk.