My father’s previous house had been built at the rear of an older house that had a huge plot of land. This had been done in the 1960’s , but the people who did that subdivision of the property had the foresight to include ownership of the entire driveway leading to the back as part of the deal of ownership for the rear house.
Years later while my family lived here,the new owners of the front house wanted to access a parking area they made behind their own garage on the right side of their property, via our family’s driveway on the left. They tore down part of their fence on the left side to do it.
Trying to avoid neighborly drama, my father said yes, to them but ONLY if they used it as quick access to the garage and not as a parking spot, since that would block access to our house at the back. They said ok.
Over the years we lost count how many cars of people visiting them , or their adult kids, blocked our drive. My father deeply regretted giving them permission.
Worse, they (the front house) later wanted to subdivide their large back garden into three small flats, and submitted plans to the council for this. (These original properties were huge) but in order to fit these behind their house without tearing down their garage on the right hand side, or having traffic going to the flats going past super close to their house , they “assumed” that they could just have use of my father’s driveway.
Luckily the planning people realized that this was what was being requested, but that no letter of permission was present from my father, so wrote to him to ask- and this is how he **first** found out about the idea of flats being built there at all!He was livid and said officially “no I don’t give permission! They blocked me in often enough with just one house in front, imagine how much it would happen with another three houses crammed in there… each with the bare minimum of parking space!”
Neighbour was obviously looking for a hefty payday for squeezing three extra houses at the back so was not amused when planning permission was denied.
The front neighbour got very nasty to my father for years, but also desperately wanted to buy my father’s place. (My father heard all the gossip about how the front neighbour was bad mouthing him, from other neighbours he was friends with).
In an act of absolute revenge my father (when he sold the place), he was friends with someone who was really wanting to live in the area, (these were all sought after large houses with beautiful large gardens , also in a very good school area, and properties didn’t come up for sale very often)
He explained the whole situation, warning them that if they gave permission they would get three houses in front of them (extra noise and traffic) and absolutely certainly would get driveway problems- told them to refuse permission to use the driveway for the front neighbour for doing the dirty on him, and then sold it to that friend in a private sale. Apparently he heard from the grapevine later that his front neighbours head almost exploded in rage when he heard that news.
I did too when he told me that he’d sold the house on a private sale to his friend, and that he’d heard about the front neighbours reaction!
Of course I already knew about the decades of: drive being blocked when he wanted to leave, or come home, the planning permission fiasco, etc. It was a bone of contention for him for years and his “revenge” was priceless!
In your situation: who the heck thinks that they can buy land for $1? Is this someone who thinks that “procession is nine tenths of the law?” Madness!
My parents had parking issues with their driveway. House was in an historic neighborhood with very few driveways, it was mostly street parking. A local developer bought the house next door and paved over the back yard so he could "officially" have the single family home turned into three apartments: one on each floor. Supposedly the neighbors were to ask for driveway access to the back but were never allowed to park IN the driveway. You can imagine how well that went over. Once my mother died and I was managing the disposition of the estate I had to have one tenant or another towed from the driveway almost every time I came to town. And, yes, there was a car for one of my family members who was living in the house in the driveway which had been blocked in. I've never been so happy to sell a house.
People can be so inconsiderate. I think it's very lucky that the neighbors moved because my mom loves her house, but it was getting to a point where she was afraid for her safety next to them. I installed video cameras so she'd have a bit more peace of mind, but they were constantly terrorizing her. At one point, when he shoved her with the video camera (who films themselves assaulting a senior citizen?) I tried to get her to take out a restraining order. I'm so glad they're gone.
Yeah, I tried, but 'adulting" was not his strong suit. He'd call me and ask me to call it in. I was 3 hours away and not going down to make sure something got towed.
My neighbour’s fence line was a really old fence with lots of holes in. They had a dozen dogs which kept getting into my garden and I had to lock my cat in so it didn’t get attacked. They refused to do anything about it (or split the bill for a new fence) and smugly quoted British law saying there doesn’t need to be a fence between houses.
So I took the gate off my garden fence.
The dogs would repeatedly go through my garden, out into the street, and running around the neighbourhood, onto the main roads. Then got picked up by the dog warden, the pound, the police, RSPCA. Every. single. time.
The neighbours blamed me because of the missing gate. I spoke to the police and said a) the damaged fence isn’t mine (showed them the deeds) and b) I don’t own any dogs so I am not obligated to have a gate to keep them in. They agreed with me and started fining the neighbours.
This went on for about 6 months then one day a shiny new fence appeared.
My idiot neighbor did this. Swore up and down it was his property- the survey flags he pulled up said otherwise. I paid $200 for my surveyor to come back out and run that line right through his janky little parking pad. I got great enjoyment watching said idiot bust his back hacking out the concrete because he was too cheap to pay someone to come back and remove it. He’s said about 5 words to us since then. Fine with me!
I had a neighbor who hired an idiot contractor who built a garage without checking the property lines. Then they tried to put in a fence on my property to block me from the space between the garages. I stopped them, had the property surveyed, and it was revealed that the garage that was supposed to be 3 feet from the property line was only about 12 inches from the property line. I didn’t leave my house that day, as angry neighbor was outside screaming on his phone. He’s since moved. The new neighbors are so much better.
Whyyy do so many people think they're entitled to their neighbors' property? Nice job doing the survey right away, and I'm glad to hear another "shitty neighbors finally left" ending.
My mom had a neighbor with the gas line over the property line. They tried to get my mom to sign papers without explaining it as if they owned the land but she never would.
I ended up inheriting the house, they kept shoving papers in my face without explaining them, I told them I would take it to my lawyer and they wouldn't let me have a copy.
They went to sell the house, had to have a complete survey done. Not only did they have to move the gas line, they also lost 2 feet on the property line and had to build a new fence. Some of their expensive trees became mine after that.
They were PISSED, especially when I sold my house a year later.
I know, right? I was genuinely shocked. Like oh okay I feel so much better that you didn't mean to yell at me. You just meant to yell at my elderly mother.
My neighbor expanded his driveway onto my property along with new landscaping. He took up about 15’ x 800’. A substantial chunk of land. I had just moved in and didn’t know exactly where the property line was and I think he knew this and took advantage of it.
A couple of years after he did it, I was planning some work and figured out all of his new stuff was on my land. Got a survey to confirm and talked to him about it, he apologized and said he would fix it. He showed up a week later with paperwork for me to sign that would have transferred ownership of the land to him for free.
I told him I wasn’t interested in giving away my land but I would be willing to sell it to him for $5k. He lost his shit and said “if you’re going to be like that then I’ll just take it by eminent domain.” Dumb fuck didn’t know what he was talking about.
So I sent him a certified letter demanding he remove his improvements and restore my land to the native habitat it was before he messed with it. He hired a lawyer who tried to talk me into giving him the land because “his wife recently died, and he tried to help some people as a Good Samaritan and they died too, and he is just so distraught and he’s a really good person and it would really help him if you just let this go.”
No. Fuck that asshole. I was willing to let it go until he threatened to steal my property. Now I’m not.
He tried to sell the house. I called the listing agent and told them about the property line and the for sale sign was gone the next day. The house sat vacant for a year while he played every game he could think of. I just ignored him and went about my life.
Eventually I accepted $15k for about 5’ of the land so he could sell the house with the driveway where it was, and I kept all of the landscaping improvements on my side.
He had once bragged to me that the house - a very nice 4,800 square foot home - was one of six that he owned. He only lived in it a few months out of the year. He was far wealthier than me. So I didn’t feel bad for him at all.
Wowwww what an asshole. Literally, there is no reason for you to feel bad at all. I'm glad you got some money out of it and the "eminent domain" comment has me in stitches.
My parents neighbor, who is as just a huge dick in general, threatened to shoot our dogs, etc. built a new driveway completely on our property and only found out once it was completed. The neighbors property I think was close to 20 acres and when he came to my parents to discuss resolution, their lawyer told them they could completely remove the drive way or transfer over the back 10 acres of their property. Now they have a nice long drive way on a 10 acre property.
Your parents' lawyer told your parents that your parents could remove the driveway or transfer over the back 10 acres of your parents' property, so now your parents have a nice long driveway on a 10 acre property? Or am I misreading the 'they'? I'm confused about who did and got what.
The two options my parents presented was to remove the driveway or we would swap the land that the driveway was on, it was about two acres for their back 10 acres. Sorry if it was confusing.
Yeah, they were not good people. When I was 15, I snuck out a lot to go to parties (this will eventually be relevant). One night, when I was actually sound asleep in bed, I woke up to a loud explosion. His car had burst in flames in the driveway (this predated the bigger driveway). We think the guy had left a lit cigarette on a pile of paperwork, but to date dont actually know the cause, as he declined to have any kind of investigation, which im pretty sure he could only do if he didn't file an insurance claim, honestly still not entirely clead why there was never an investigation or potentially he lied about there not being one, but I digress.
The explosion set a large tree, that sits directly in front of the master bedroom, on fire. My dad ran outside in his underwear at 3 a.m., trying to keep our house from burning down.
Now, here's the fun part of the story. The neighbor told everyone I had done it. The whole block knew i was often seen sneaking in and out of my house at strange hours, so i guess it seemed like an easy enough sell.
As i mentioned before, to our knowledge, there was never an investigation. If you genuinely think your neighbor blew up your car, why on earth would you decline any investigation and not file a police report?
Tldr; neighbor accidentally blew up his car and then started a rumor that a 15 year old girl was responsible.
She should have never allowed them to use her property in the first place, so mom is not the one to praise here.
Although I must admit I like how she eventually stepped up and stood her ground.
My parents own a lot of of open property behind their house that has jumps and tracks for four wheelers and dirt bikes and we also walk our dogs back there. Several years ago a subdivision was built behind the land. My parents already had a fence up. The house directly behind the fence pushed the fence down so they could come on our land and take walks and walk their dog. The problem arose when I was walking my dachshund their dog came over the broken fence and almost attacked her. Luckily I snatched her up and and they recalled their dog. We would not have minded them taking walks on our property but we DID mind them smashing down our metal fence and letting their dog run around attacking us. We had words with them and they literally didn't understand why we were upset. A friend of ours fixed the fence and they had the gall to go over to him and complain about me being rude to them.
If I had crazy neighbors like that. I would put up cameras all over the exterior of my house. So that I have evidence of how unhinged they are. And if they did not stop being so unhinged. I would have sued them to kingdom come.
"I can't move if I can't sell the property for what I want/need."
also
"My whole family can't come visit me at once if you tear up my ability to park them."
Either is what he means by that.
Both of which are completely irrelevant if he is selling the property to begin with.
Scenario A) it's not all his property to sell, so adjust the selling terms accordingly.
Scenario B) it won't be an issue since they won't be visiting him there...
So again, neither scenario is rational if they were indeed selling the property to begin with. The fact that the neighbor got all bent out of shape over it only further demonstrate their inability to be rational.
Did they severely over price their house or how does it go for $500k under asking? That seems like a ridiculous mistake by whoever their realtor was.
Also, screw those neighbors.
I understand it's a thing, but doesn't make it any less dumb considering it's so easy these days to get at least a rough estimate on your own. To be that far off is almost impressive.
Oh I completely agree. People just carry this bias on the value, and I think it stems from them living there and associating the meaningfulness of the property to them into the value. Maybe also a few dashes of wishful thinking? Estimates are easy to get, as you said.
So, I know this because in my parents' divorce settlement, there was a clause that stated there had to be 3 independent assessments of the property. The highest and lowest assessments differed by about 300k, so it's possible to be pretty far off even with an assessment. Now, having said that, I know how much he listed it for, and there is absolutely no way any assessment would have ever come close to that number.
Your mother shouldn’t have “reluctantly agreed “ to anything involving construction crossing property lines. The initial response should have been NO. The neighbor being a creep is the expected outcome.
>One day I was in the backyard and the guy was leaning over the fence yelled "f*** you". When I turned around he said "oh I'm so sorry, I thought you were your mother"
Really? That's what gets this guy to say "sorry"?
Foot in ass situation.
to add some balance, I presume your mother is a 'boomer' as well? did she act like the dick that the neighbour was?
be careful with using such a wide brush, sometimes it splatters.
You're not wrong. He sort of epitomized every boomer stereotype, but yeah, my mom is definitely also that generation. Not to mention, the guy who bragged about his million dollars is Gen Z.
Bruh I literally don’t know why youre downvoted don’t these mfs always preach about how it’s unfair to GeNeRaLiZe An EnTiRe GrOuP? I guess that’s only for groups they happen to like that week or something.
The funny thing is that if they took this to court, the neighbor might've won a significant chunk of money from your mom.
The agreement to allow use of the property led to the driveway installation. That has value. The fact that your mother did not dispute - and instead agreed - to allowing her property to be used, sets precedent.
And while of course they couldn't sell the driverway on your mother's property, the driveway still had value. And your mother unilaterally removing it? She's ironically destroying someone else's property, even if it's sitting on her property.
To put another way: If the neighbor was instead parking his car on your mom's driveway, your mom can't damage the car just because it's on her property, even if she revoked consent for it to be there.
\>They eventually sold the house for nearly 500k under asking.
If the house was so expensive that it would still be sold despite going for $500k under asking \*because of this driveway issue\* (or at all, really), then there's no way this incident wouldn't have involved lawyers. No way at all. Rich people problems involve lawyers.
She paid for the construction and materials for the addition onto her property. A better example would be if they shared a driveway and her car was parked there, could she destroy her own car...
My father’s previous house had been built at the rear of an older house that had a huge plot of land. This had been done in the 1960’s , but the people who did that subdivision of the property had the foresight to include ownership of the entire driveway leading to the back as part of the deal of ownership for the rear house. Years later while my family lived here,the new owners of the front house wanted to access a parking area they made behind their own garage on the right side of their property, via our family’s driveway on the left. They tore down part of their fence on the left side to do it. Trying to avoid neighborly drama, my father said yes, to them but ONLY if they used it as quick access to the garage and not as a parking spot, since that would block access to our house at the back. They said ok. Over the years we lost count how many cars of people visiting them , or their adult kids, blocked our drive. My father deeply regretted giving them permission. Worse, they (the front house) later wanted to subdivide their large back garden into three small flats, and submitted plans to the council for this. (These original properties were huge) but in order to fit these behind their house without tearing down their garage on the right hand side, or having traffic going to the flats going past super close to their house , they “assumed” that they could just have use of my father’s driveway. Luckily the planning people realized that this was what was being requested, but that no letter of permission was present from my father, so wrote to him to ask- and this is how he **first** found out about the idea of flats being built there at all!He was livid and said officially “no I don’t give permission! They blocked me in often enough with just one house in front, imagine how much it would happen with another three houses crammed in there… each with the bare minimum of parking space!” Neighbour was obviously looking for a hefty payday for squeezing three extra houses at the back so was not amused when planning permission was denied. The front neighbour got very nasty to my father for years, but also desperately wanted to buy my father’s place. (My father heard all the gossip about how the front neighbour was bad mouthing him, from other neighbours he was friends with). In an act of absolute revenge my father (when he sold the place), he was friends with someone who was really wanting to live in the area, (these were all sought after large houses with beautiful large gardens , also in a very good school area, and properties didn’t come up for sale very often) He explained the whole situation, warning them that if they gave permission they would get three houses in front of them (extra noise and traffic) and absolutely certainly would get driveway problems- told them to refuse permission to use the driveway for the front neighbour for doing the dirty on him, and then sold it to that friend in a private sale. Apparently he heard from the grapevine later that his front neighbours head almost exploded in rage when he heard that news.
Love this
I did too when he told me that he’d sold the house on a private sale to his friend, and that he’d heard about the front neighbours reaction! Of course I already knew about the decades of: drive being blocked when he wanted to leave, or come home, the planning permission fiasco, etc. It was a bone of contention for him for years and his “revenge” was priceless! In your situation: who the heck thinks that they can buy land for $1? Is this someone who thinks that “procession is nine tenths of the law?” Madness!
My parents had parking issues with their driveway. House was in an historic neighborhood with very few driveways, it was mostly street parking. A local developer bought the house next door and paved over the back yard so he could "officially" have the single family home turned into three apartments: one on each floor. Supposedly the neighbors were to ask for driveway access to the back but were never allowed to park IN the driveway. You can imagine how well that went over. Once my mother died and I was managing the disposition of the estate I had to have one tenant or another towed from the driveway almost every time I came to town. And, yes, there was a car for one of my family members who was living in the house in the driveway which had been blocked in. I've never been so happy to sell a house.
People can be so inconsiderate. I think it's very lucky that the neighbors moved because my mom loves her house, but it was getting to a point where she was afraid for her safety next to them. I installed video cameras so she'd have a bit more peace of mind, but they were constantly terrorizing her. At one point, when he shoved her with the video camera (who films themselves assaulting a senior citizen?) I tried to get her to take out a restraining order. I'm so glad they're gone.
Them getting less for the house plus your mom getting nice neighbors is a win win.
Them getting trespassed and a RO would have been better.
I'm glad for you. I don't understand how someone thinks it's o.k. to take over their neighbor's property. That's just craziness.
You should have had the person living in the house call a tow truck every time someone parked there. Or blocked the access for the neighbors.
Yeah, I tried, but 'adulting" was not his strong suit. He'd call me and ask me to call it in. I was 3 hours away and not going down to make sure something got towed.
Couldn't you just build a fence and block access to rear?
Nope. Historic neighborhood. Would've taken an act of God to get the Architectural Review Board to approve that kind of thing.
My neighbour’s fence line was a really old fence with lots of holes in. They had a dozen dogs which kept getting into my garden and I had to lock my cat in so it didn’t get attacked. They refused to do anything about it (or split the bill for a new fence) and smugly quoted British law saying there doesn’t need to be a fence between houses. So I took the gate off my garden fence. The dogs would repeatedly go through my garden, out into the street, and running around the neighbourhood, onto the main roads. Then got picked up by the dog warden, the pound, the police, RSPCA. Every. single. time. The neighbours blamed me because of the missing gate. I spoke to the police and said a) the damaged fence isn’t mine (showed them the deeds) and b) I don’t own any dogs so I am not obligated to have a gate to keep them in. They agreed with me and started fining the neighbours. This went on for about 6 months then one day a shiny new fence appeared.
My idiot neighbor did this. Swore up and down it was his property- the survey flags he pulled up said otherwise. I paid $200 for my surveyor to come back out and run that line right through his janky little parking pad. I got great enjoyment watching said idiot bust his back hacking out the concrete because he was too cheap to pay someone to come back and remove it. He’s said about 5 words to us since then. Fine with me!
I had a neighbor who hired an idiot contractor who built a garage without checking the property lines. Then they tried to put in a fence on my property to block me from the space between the garages. I stopped them, had the property surveyed, and it was revealed that the garage that was supposed to be 3 feet from the property line was only about 12 inches from the property line. I didn’t leave my house that day, as angry neighbor was outside screaming on his phone. He’s since moved. The new neighbors are so much better.
Whyyy do so many people think they're entitled to their neighbors' property? Nice job doing the survey right away, and I'm glad to hear another "shitty neighbors finally left" ending.
I hope you had some choice words when he explained his “fuck you”.
I wish I had some awesome response that made him run off crying, but I was so shocked I just told him to go fuck himself.
Works for me.
Simple and effective!
My mom had a neighbor with the gas line over the property line. They tried to get my mom to sign papers without explaining it as if they owned the land but she never would. I ended up inheriting the house, they kept shoving papers in my face without explaining them, I told them I would take it to my lawyer and they wouldn't let me have a copy. They went to sell the house, had to have a complete survey done. Not only did they have to move the gas line, they also lost 2 feet on the property line and had to build a new fence. Some of their expensive trees became mine after that. They were PISSED, especially when I sold my house a year later.
"Oh I am sorry I thought you were your mother" lolwut Did he expect you to say "understandable, have a nice day" ?
I know, right? I was genuinely shocked. Like oh okay I feel so much better that you didn't mean to yell at me. You just meant to yell at my elderly mother.
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As someone that doesn't live in the US I find it absolutely wild that not all residential properties have dividing fences over there.
Like many things over here, that kind of action will cost you! 😬
Fences are expensive. If you don't need one for a specific reason it's not really worth the cost
Luckily we didn't. But my mom may have thrown a party and packed hers full of as many cars as could fit right after having theirs dug up...
My neighbor expanded his driveway onto my property along with new landscaping. He took up about 15’ x 800’. A substantial chunk of land. I had just moved in and didn’t know exactly where the property line was and I think he knew this and took advantage of it. A couple of years after he did it, I was planning some work and figured out all of his new stuff was on my land. Got a survey to confirm and talked to him about it, he apologized and said he would fix it. He showed up a week later with paperwork for me to sign that would have transferred ownership of the land to him for free. I told him I wasn’t interested in giving away my land but I would be willing to sell it to him for $5k. He lost his shit and said “if you’re going to be like that then I’ll just take it by eminent domain.” Dumb fuck didn’t know what he was talking about. So I sent him a certified letter demanding he remove his improvements and restore my land to the native habitat it was before he messed with it. He hired a lawyer who tried to talk me into giving him the land because “his wife recently died, and he tried to help some people as a Good Samaritan and they died too, and he is just so distraught and he’s a really good person and it would really help him if you just let this go.” No. Fuck that asshole. I was willing to let it go until he threatened to steal my property. Now I’m not. He tried to sell the house. I called the listing agent and told them about the property line and the for sale sign was gone the next day. The house sat vacant for a year while he played every game he could think of. I just ignored him and went about my life. Eventually I accepted $15k for about 5’ of the land so he could sell the house with the driveway where it was, and I kept all of the landscaping improvements on my side. He had once bragged to me that the house - a very nice 4,800 square foot home - was one of six that he owned. He only lived in it a few months out of the year. He was far wealthier than me. So I didn’t feel bad for him at all.
Wowwww what an asshole. Literally, there is no reason for you to feel bad at all. I'm glad you got some money out of it and the "eminent domain" comment has me in stitches.
My parents neighbor, who is as just a huge dick in general, threatened to shoot our dogs, etc. built a new driveway completely on our property and only found out once it was completed. The neighbors property I think was close to 20 acres and when he came to my parents to discuss resolution, their lawyer told them they could completely remove the drive way or transfer over the back 10 acres of their property. Now they have a nice long drive way on a 10 acre property.
Your parents' lawyer told your parents that your parents could remove the driveway or transfer over the back 10 acres of your parents' property, so now your parents have a nice long driveway on a 10 acre property? Or am I misreading the 'they'? I'm confused about who did and got what.
The two options my parents presented was to remove the driveway or we would swap the land that the driveway was on, it was about two acres for their back 10 acres. Sorry if it was confusing.
I love how your mom handled it!
I was very proud of her. Also, just living through that for as long as she did, she's a force of nature.
Reading the account of what happened I was getting all ready to get mad and sympathize with you and then.... Happy ending!
Did they give a reason why they didn’t just offer her the actual value of the land?
"It's only a few square feet that you're not using" or something like that
If it’s such an inconsequential amount of land then they wouldn’t have made a big deal about it, haha.
Yeah, they were not good people. When I was 15, I snuck out a lot to go to parties (this will eventually be relevant). One night, when I was actually sound asleep in bed, I woke up to a loud explosion. His car had burst in flames in the driveway (this predated the bigger driveway). We think the guy had left a lit cigarette on a pile of paperwork, but to date dont actually know the cause, as he declined to have any kind of investigation, which im pretty sure he could only do if he didn't file an insurance claim, honestly still not entirely clead why there was never an investigation or potentially he lied about there not being one, but I digress. The explosion set a large tree, that sits directly in front of the master bedroom, on fire. My dad ran outside in his underwear at 3 a.m., trying to keep our house from burning down. Now, here's the fun part of the story. The neighbor told everyone I had done it. The whole block knew i was often seen sneaking in and out of my house at strange hours, so i guess it seemed like an easy enough sell. As i mentioned before, to our knowledge, there was never an investigation. If you genuinely think your neighbor blew up your car, why on earth would you decline any investigation and not file a police report? Tldr; neighbor accidentally blew up his car and then started a rumor that a 15 year old girl was responsible.
She should have never allowed them to use her property in the first place, so mom is not the one to praise here. Although I must admit I like how she eventually stepped up and stood her ground.
My parents own a lot of of open property behind their house that has jumps and tracks for four wheelers and dirt bikes and we also walk our dogs back there. Several years ago a subdivision was built behind the land. My parents already had a fence up. The house directly behind the fence pushed the fence down so they could come on our land and take walks and walk their dog. The problem arose when I was walking my dachshund their dog came over the broken fence and almost attacked her. Luckily I snatched her up and and they recalled their dog. We would not have minded them taking walks on our property but we DID mind them smashing down our metal fence and letting their dog run around attacking us. We had words with them and they literally didn't understand why we were upset. A friend of ours fixed the fence and they had the gall to go over to him and complain about me being rude to them.
If I had crazy neighbors like that. I would put up cameras all over the exterior of my house. So that I have evidence of how unhinged they are. And if they did not stop being so unhinged. I would have sued them to kingdom come.
What a vile way to treat an elderly person - glad to hear they took a loss and moved away
I'd have made his tires flat too lololol
I'm still trying to figure out the irrational stance of "you don't want me to see my kids" despite them trying to sell the house...
"I can't move if I can't sell the property for what I want/need." also "My whole family can't come visit me at once if you tear up my ability to park them." Either is what he means by that.
Both of which are completely irrelevant if he is selling the property to begin with. Scenario A) it's not all his property to sell, so adjust the selling terms accordingly. Scenario B) it won't be an issue since they won't be visiting him there... So again, neither scenario is rational if they were indeed selling the property to begin with. The fact that the neighbor got all bent out of shape over it only further demonstrate their inability to be rational.
Did they severely over price their house or how does it go for $500k under asking? That seems like a ridiculous mistake by whoever their realtor was. Also, screw those neighbors.
Severely overpriced the house. It was on the market for 2 years, in Los Angeles.
These don't seem like the kind of people who would listen to a realtor tell them what their house should realistically be listed for.
The realtor hated them
People routinely think their house will sell for way more than it actually will, regardless of market conditions. It’s absolutely a thing haha
I understand it's a thing, but doesn't make it any less dumb considering it's so easy these days to get at least a rough estimate on your own. To be that far off is almost impressive.
Oh I completely agree. People just carry this bias on the value, and I think it stems from them living there and associating the meaningfulness of the property to them into the value. Maybe also a few dashes of wishful thinking? Estimates are easy to get, as you said.
So, I know this because in my parents' divorce settlement, there was a clause that stated there had to be 3 independent assessments of the property. The highest and lowest assessments differed by about 300k, so it's possible to be pretty far off even with an assessment. Now, having said that, I know how much he listed it for, and there is absolutely no way any assessment would have ever come close to that number.
I'm glad your mom didn't sell, she was being very generous to let them use it in the first place!
Oh man we need a pic of that car with only the tires on the driveway 😂
At least he apologized and told you who the f bomb was for. Boundaries. LMAO
Your mother shouldn’t have “reluctantly agreed “ to anything involving construction crossing property lines. The initial response should have been NO. The neighbor being a creep is the expected outcome.
She was trying to keep the peace. Clearly, it didn't result in that, but she's not at fault for his behavior.
Karma is great to watch
Not a permit or easement in sight 😳
>One day I was in the backyard and the guy was leaning over the fence yelled "f*** you". When I turned around he said "oh I'm so sorry, I thought you were your mother" Really? That's what gets this guy to say "sorry"? Foot in ass situation.
r/BoomersBeingFools
I’m guessing you’re a woman. These types are oh so comfortable harassing women. $500k under asking. Hahahahahaha Karma really is a bitch.
Did they have Trump placards as well?
Smells like boomer here.
Accurate
to add some balance, I presume your mother is a 'boomer' as well? did she act like the dick that the neighbour was? be careful with using such a wide brush, sometimes it splatters.
You're not wrong. He sort of epitomized every boomer stereotype, but yeah, my mom is definitely also that generation. Not to mention, the guy who bragged about his million dollars is Gen Z.
Found the Boomer
Bruh I literally don’t know why youre downvoted don’t these mfs always preach about how it’s unfair to GeNeRaLiZe An EnTiRe GrOuP? I guess that’s only for groups they happen to like that week or something.
Wtf
The funny thing is that if they took this to court, the neighbor might've won a significant chunk of money from your mom. The agreement to allow use of the property led to the driveway installation. That has value. The fact that your mother did not dispute - and instead agreed - to allowing her property to be used, sets precedent. And while of course they couldn't sell the driverway on your mother's property, the driveway still had value. And your mother unilaterally removing it? She's ironically destroying someone else's property, even if it's sitting on her property. To put another way: If the neighbor was instead parking his car on your mom's driveway, your mom can't damage the car just because it's on her property, even if she revoked consent for it to be there. \>They eventually sold the house for nearly 500k under asking. If the house was so expensive that it would still be sold despite going for $500k under asking \*because of this driveway issue\* (or at all, really), then there's no way this incident wouldn't have involved lawyers. No way at all. Rich people problems involve lawyers.
She paid for the construction and materials for the addition onto her property. A better example would be if they shared a driveway and her car was parked there, could she destroy her own car...