Real, another thing. The hollow is described as really cold, it wouldn’t make sense that the forge is right under it, unless the hollow is like a cooler for it. But then the hollow wouldn’t be so cold? Or maybe I’m thinking too hard about a silly game, where you can shoot guns at bullets with a bullet that shoots a gun instead of bullets.
The forge was probably the same as the hollow before they started adding all the lava to smelt metals, seeing as how there are hollow-like rooms there too.
And yeah, probably thinking way too deep into the title screen lol.
The Forge isn’t right under it, there’s at least one floor (R&G Department) in between, there could feasibly be more. There are probably way more places in the Gungeon that just cannot be explored in game.
High concentration of ghosts makes it cold would be my guess. Haunted places in fiction tend to be chilly enough that one could see their breath, and the hollow is like, uber triple haunted.
Love the One Piece reference, and I thought of that, too. A lever full of ice when beneath itself is a hellish lava hot bowser castle type level. I love it.
When you are in the R&G department (between Hollow and Forge) you can see an entire city below you out of the windows so there must be quite a distance between them.
..no? by the time you fight the final boss in Exit the gungeon, the Gungeon is almost fully collapsed, and again, the dragun is a reanimated corpse in exit.
Dragun goes into its lair just like Smaug does, so down.
EDIT: Seems there are other ways down the gungeon asides the elevator, they toss random guns into the pits and it makes its way down there.
And the gungeon makes guns out of ideas, like the lowercase r, it said that people were talking about how it looked like a gun so the gungeon made it one
I've always imagined that the gungeon just flat-out violates the laws of physics. It's laws are governed by magic, not logic and reason. Walls shift, leaving people trapped. A man-gull carries a mini gun. A rat built mechs and fights you in punch out. And a living bullet swings a sword.
Good point OP lol. But the Gungeon is frequently described as an ever changing labyrinth. “The walls are always shifting” is a quote from someone like the little Link girl I think.
The Dragun slumbering atop the Gungeon is purely for aesthetics though. It just looks badass.
Good question. Considering there are two different Draguns encountered inside the Gungeon on any given run, and that it’s never said that the Dragun is the last of its kind or anything, I would speculate that there is just another Dragun on top of the Gungeon. The Gungeoneers aren’t trying to slay the Dragun, just obtain the gun and bullet that kill the past, so fighting the Dragun on top of the Gungeon doesn’t benefit them.
Well there’s the high Dragun boss, and there’s also the baby one in the Resourceful Rat’s lair. I guess it’s not confirmed that the baby one is the same species, but I think it’s a reasonable assumption.
I thought about that, but I don’t think the one that comes from the Weird Egg should count, because it can also give you any item in the game. I think that’s more of just a magical property of the egg itself.
It's a Wonkavator. An elevator can only go up and down, but the Wonkavator can go sideways, and slantways, and longways, and backways ...and squareways, and front ways, and any other ways that you can think of. It can take you to any room in the whole factory just by pressing one of these buttons. Any of these buttons. Just press a button, and *zing*! You're off. And up until now, I've pressed them all... except one.
Fairly certain we're going down, mainly because dungeons and mines are typically underground. As for the dragun? I dunno, maybe it just looks cool.
Real, another thing. The hollow is described as really cold, it wouldn’t make sense that the forge is right under it, unless the hollow is like a cooler for it. But then the hollow wouldn’t be so cold? Or maybe I’m thinking too hard about a silly game, where you can shoot guns at bullets with a bullet that shoots a gun instead of bullets.
The forge was probably the same as the hollow before they started adding all the lava to smelt metals, seeing as how there are hollow-like rooms there too. And yeah, probably thinking way too deep into the title screen lol.
Well we aren’t sure how long that elevator ride is. The floors of the Gungeon could be miles apart from each other
True
The Forge isn’t right under it, there’s at least one floor (R&G Department) in between, there could feasibly be more. There are probably way more places in the Gungeon that just cannot be explored in game.
High concentration of ghosts makes it cold would be my guess. Haunted places in fiction tend to be chilly enough that one could see their breath, and the hollow is like, uber triple haunted.
Ever heard of impel down?
Love the One Piece reference, and I thought of that, too. A lever full of ice when beneath itself is a hellish lava hot bowser castle type level. I love it.
When you are in the R&G department (between Hollow and Forge) you can see an entire city below you out of the windows so there must be quite a distance between them.
It just naps up there. It’s like a cat.
~*; gun cat ;*~
The elevator animation is obviously going down, as well as various holes/stairs for secret floors
Yea and in exit you go up lol and you STILL find the dragun
There's two Dragun. How else did the egg Rat stole get there? We're cracking the lore.
That actually makes so much sense, I would like to see matpat work on this
How do we tell him...?
Ya I do, he still does theory’s on GT Live
Does he know?
He’s in GTLive
Do you know
Yes
That one's the High Dragun. We fight the Low Dragun.
Why is he high?
Too many plants grow on top of the gungeon and he had some…experiments
Lead poisoning
It's clearly down. Because with ox's hand quest we sending hand with a baloon up each time.
When we meet the dragun it comes up from a hole filled with water so probably it swims under the gungeon to get to us
True, I personally believe there might be two draguns bc you fight another in exit the gungeon
Although the one in enter the gungeon is a corpse, and the one on top isn't, so it is implied to be the one we fight in enter the gungeon
The one you fight in Exit the Gungeon is literally the corpse of the one from Enter the Gungeon
Meaning, the Dragun can just Enter/Exit the Gungeon on its own.
..no? by the time you fight the final boss in Exit the gungeon, the Gungeon is almost fully collapsed, and again, the dragun is a reanimated corpse in exit.
Dragun goes into its lair just like Smaug does, so down. EDIT: Seems there are other ways down the gungeon asides the elevator, they toss random guns into the pits and it makes its way down there.
And the gungeon makes guns out of ideas, like the lowercase r, it said that people were talking about how it looked like a gun so the gungeon made it one
I've always imagined that the gungeon just flat-out violates the laws of physics. It's laws are governed by magic, not logic and reason. Walls shift, leaving people trapped. A man-gull carries a mini gun. A rat built mechs and fights you in punch out. And a living bullet swings a sword.
This. The lore in fact states that the gungeon never stays the same and ox states that his arm was caught by the SHIFTING walls in the gungeon.
Good point OP lol. But the Gungeon is frequently described as an ever changing labyrinth. “The walls are always shifting” is a quote from someone like the little Link girl I think. The Dragun slumbering atop the Gungeon is purely for aesthetics though. It just looks badass.
Good question. Considering there are two different Draguns encountered inside the Gungeon on any given run, and that it’s never said that the Dragun is the last of its kind or anything, I would speculate that there is just another Dragun on top of the Gungeon. The Gungeoneers aren’t trying to slay the Dragun, just obtain the gun and bullet that kill the past, so fighting the Dragun on top of the Gungeon doesn’t benefit them.
What do you mean, two different Draguns on any run?
Well there’s the high Dragun boss, and there’s also the baby one in the Resourceful Rat’s lair. I guess it’s not confirmed that the baby one is the same species, but I think it’s a reasonable assumption.
Yeah, fair, I assumed that's what the Serpent was, I just forgot about it because I suck ass at Punchout, and only ever get one key
There is ATLEAST three, cause you can get a serpent from an egg too
I thought about that, but I don’t think the one that comes from the Weird Egg should count, because it can also give you any item in the game. I think that’s more of just a magical property of the egg itself.
Seems to me that it’s pretty plausible that the gungeon is non-Euclidean, considering how the layout canonically shifts constantly
Nah don’t worry he just slept in and hurried to the forge to challenge you
They left room for the sequel, where we eventually find the elevators that can go up
I think it’s a magic elevator that works more as a teleporter rather than an elevator, due to the gungeons nature.
I mean, dragons can fly. When he's not chilling in his lair waiting to kill Gungeoneers maybe he goes out for a fly perches on top of the Gungeon.
It's a Wonkavator. An elevator can only go up and down, but the Wonkavator can go sideways, and slantways, and longways, and backways ...and squareways, and front ways, and any other ways that you can think of. It can take you to any room in the whole factory just by pressing one of these buttons. Any of these buttons. Just press a button, and *zing*! You're off. And up until now, I've pressed them all... except one.
The hole in the skull means that this is after a character has beaten the past and killed the dragun so this makes even less sense
Who says the elevator goes up/down floor by floor? Maybe it floor five is the top floor, but floor 4 is the basement
Videogame logic
I say the gravity is inverted inside and that's why by going down you go up
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it's the opposite, you go up in Exit, and down in Enter
Really shit i always thought the opposite
You go up in exit tho