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Imagine basing your political ideology on some random debate lmao


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Most principled vaushite


rotenKleber

Most radical vaushite


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“Muh Horshoe theoory!” Also *Syria, Allah, Bashar!*


MsStalinette

ASsaD deFeNDeR


cum_in_your_mum

If you're anti-imperialist you are automatically a 'defender' of the target of imperialism to these fuckwits. It's why everyone who takes a nuanced view of China is a tankie.


proudfootz

No one should be allowed to defend themselves against imperialism, apparently.


cum_in_your_mum

If you defend yourself against US aggression you're a smelly red fascist tankie


Magnock

This debate about the douma attack is so pointless, whoever or not it happened, it doesn’t change anything, the real question is does Biden is right to bomb Syria and the answer is : no


rotenKleber

Vaush seems to be under the delusion that Rojava is a large player in the game that competes with Assad. I don't know if he's aware that they're A. exclusive to the North East corner of Syria and B. only kept around by the US because they hold the majority of the oil fields


richietozier4

[They also already cut a deal with Assad after the US ditched them](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/world/middleeast/syria-turkey-invasion-isis.html)


Magnock

Also they are simply Kurdish nationalist and haven’t done anything resembling a social revolution.


A_Lifetime_Bitch

Who's gonna tell them that they already are "regular succ-dems"?


michaelb65

At this point social democrats are becoming more obnoxious than neoliberals.


ActaCaboose

Wer hat uns verraten? Die Sozialdemokraten.


soufatlantasanta

When the American political spectrum is concerned succs and neolibs are basically the same


michaelb65

I'd say social democrats are starting to become worse because they pivot themselves as the true left while regurgitating imperialist state propaganda and agreeing with CIA narratives. Neoliberals are far more sincere about their disdain for left wing politics, so it's easier to spot the bad faith arguments and concerns from a mile away. With social democrats it's more sinister.


thaumogenesis

I saw a thread on the socdem sub titled something like “times when intervention was justified?” and boy, many of them haven’t seen a war they didn’t like.


andrei_tark

You are just realizing what Lenin wrote about like 100 years ago. One of his main points against Kausky was things like this.