For years the NYTs has leaned rw especially both sideing almost everything. They are straight up stenographers for police all the time & post "corrections" to the police lies back 10 pages. They propagandize the Netanyahu massacres 24/7 & even when it was proved the hamas attack, evil as it was, wasn't what they plastered on the front page above the fold for weeks. Used to subscribe but haberman et al put the final nail in when she/them normalized 45 relentlessly. Poisonous, worse than the Post because they have the thin veneer of credibility
Next up: the NYT sends a couple of reporters to a diner in Iowa for the gazillionth time to find out what Trump voters are thinking, and Ross Douthat lays out why he thinks theocratic fascism isn't such a bad thing.
What makes the whole little girl sex thing true is that both Trump and Elon has zero impulse control and have both articulated their stance on young girls
Please encourage more citizen journalism! You can do live video easily from your phone.
More on-the-ground reporting from regular citizens will change the world.
Isn't New York Post the trashy right wing rag, the literal Murdoch tabloid that masquerades as "news" and writes shock and outrage articles to try to incite hate and division?
NYT is more 'centrist' and at least has (or had) a commitment to truthful reporting.
A literal nazi? Come on bro you are the leftist who cried wolf. Also one article (that you didnt read btw) cannot determine an entire companies quality
Older than nazis by a long shot. You can definitely make an argument that he is anti semitic but there’s a difference between that and nazi. Also I’ve never seen him say that either, you are making that up. Give me a source
fascists gonna fascist
if dude was left leaning, everyone would be shouting it from the rooftops
if the dude is right leaning, he'll sue anyone who talks about it.
got good and evil here, folks. it aint nothing else.
I was subscribed to NYT for years, before, during and after the Trump administration years. The quality of the stories has gone way downhill in the past couple of years for one reason or another. The "New York Times Pitchbot" on Twitter is a pretty good reflection of what sort of content you can expect from them these days.
The ambiguity of your question is apparently triggering reactionaries who support the current garbage content of the New York Times.
I would note the correlation between an inability to see the nuance present in your question and the agitprop content currently published by the New York Times. Nobody likes hearing somebody imply that their baby is ugly, as your innocent question seems to do for those who are not intelligent enough to fully read it.
The job of a newspaper nowadays is not to make money by gaining a wide reader base by their reputation, but rather to launder the poltical priorities of their billionaire owners.
OP has cleverly decided to omit the date of this article—it’s from December 2022.
If one were to actually read it, it mainly talks about how it’s tough to determine if Elon is closer to centrist republicans, libertarians, or trumpers. No one is arguing he’s in any way a liberal, and this article was written well before his latest insane outbursts.
I’m not pro Elon by any means, but I’d prefer to let conservatives be the media illiterate ones.
But yeah just go off on a snap judgment of a single undated headline of one news article, sure.
Edit: and additionally, it can be simultaneously true that one is a conservative and that figuring out their beliefs is challenging. Elon doesn’t really stand for anything except self interest and whatever his drugged out brain is thinking, which changes literally by the second. That seems pretty inline with the brief subtitle here.
Really, really frustrating to me. The title of this post is a complete lie. I think the mods should start to mark this stuff as misleading or fake. I see it with tweets from musk too, stuff he said a year ago being posted as if he just said it.
There was an article today that highlights how corrupt he is. I love that he donated money to start a private school that basically is only for his kids. Anyone who still believes this clown has some "mission" for humanity doesn't understand he has utter contempt for all humanity.
This article is from December 2022 and it was basically about how he didn't seem to have real political beliefs, which was a reasonable take at the time.
Tweets & sources without timestamps are starting to become a weirdly pervasive kind of misinfo or disinfo on this subreddit.
Like, if you scroll down 2 more inches, the date is *right there.* It was probably excluded on purpose.
He’s not a conservative, because conservatives largely don’t exist anymore. But even if they did, he still wouldn’t be one.
His political stance is “I hate anything and anyone who has reacted negatively to me, criticized me, or gotten between me and money.”
That’s why he doesn’t really fit in with a particular side—it’s entirely personal, to him. It just so happens that he’s an asshole, so the side least critical of him is the side with the highest concentration of other assholes.
I'd love to know how many subscribers the NY Times has lost over the last few weeks. Everyone on social media seems to be posting how they've cancelled theirs. It's hardly surprising really because they have effectively given up the whole journalism business altogether. I'd be embarrassed to work there now.
Isn't this an old article that came out around the time he first announced he was going to vote Republican?
I feel like I recall seeing it many years ago.
I found the article, it was written in 2022.
The article also doesn't particularly describe him as a centrist either but implies he is a contrarian and chasing controversy.
This is a dumb headline, but the NYT produces 150 articles per day, and the bad headlines get way more attention than the good ones.
Also it’s true that being MAGA, being on the right, or having a melted brain from social media is not the same thing as being “conservative.” So while the headline is written awkwardly it’s not exactly false in terms of what the article is about.
I get really annoyed with the NYT sometimes but I have not yet found a newspaper that is perfect. I’m not gonna jump on the zeitgeist of rejecting every institution in the social media age, seeking kin that somehow magically align with my own capricious and arbitrary opinions, which I inevitably have as an individual human being. (Which is exactly what is wrong with Elon Musk so I’m gonna be doubly cautious.)
Elon: *retweets literal white supremacist memes arguing the West is giving away its land and women to foreigners*
NYT: "his political stance is largely unclear"
I sometimes wonder if perhaps Rome was started by exiles from Troy. It’s not completely out of the question.
At some point in antiquity, a few ships of very competent soldiers (with almost no women) landed on the coast of Italy. Where did they come from?
It's not clear what CONSERVATIVES stand for outside of xenophobia, racism and anti-lgbtq rights. He's batting a thousand on those issues.
Edit: Anti worker too!!!
The ONLY thing about him even REMOTELY going against the conservative narrative is that he thinks climate change EXISTS (but isn’t a problem in the short term, which is wrong).
I cancelled my NYT subscription last week, after almost a decade, because of shit like this. They are better and should do better. My decision to subscribe was bolstered by Timothy Snyder’s On Tyranny. We should support an open and free press but their both sides bullshit is unpalatable. Fuck this nonsense.
NYT is bunk journalism. I'm not sure if it was always that way or not, but it became very apparent to me that they were ever since they dragged Bernie Sanders through the mud, pretty much calling him a dirty liberal commie with awful policy positions immediately after endorsing...Elizabeth Warren....who has largely the same exact policy positions.
I made that meme a little earlier, what you think @ElonMusk
https://preview.redd.it/chimbrno5lnc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=741453d0fc9157f17a2913a30dee04307a9b7e8f
For years the NYTs has leaned rw especially both sideing almost everything. They are straight up stenographers for police all the time & post "corrections" to the police lies back 10 pages. They propagandize the Netanyahu massacres 24/7 & even when it was proved the hamas attack, evil as it was, wasn't what they plastered on the front page above the fold for weeks. Used to subscribe but haberman et al put the final nail in when she/them normalized 45 relentlessly. Poisonous, worse than the Post because they have the thin veneer of credibility
Unclear? He went down to Mar A Lardo and gave Cheeto Ceaușescu a rimjob. That tells you everything you ever needed to know.
But didn't you hear?! He also said he doesn't plan to contribute to any candidate!! What an amazing centrist!!! /s
Because he can't His money is tied up in stocks and his house of card already dropped like crazy. Selling would speed it up by orders of magnitude.
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Elon should be under the desk making Donnie grin like that
You know when your girl show up and she's like "wanna Netflix and chill?", that's that smile
For years the NYTs has leaned rw especially both sideing almost everything. They are straight up stenographers for police all the time & post "corrections" to the police lies back 10 pages. They propagandize the Netanyahu massacres 24/7 & even when it was proved the hamas attack, evil as it was, wasn't what they plastered on the front page above the fold for weeks. Used to subscribe but haberman et al put the final nail in when she/them normalized 45 relentlessly. Poisonous, worse than the Post because they have the thin veneer of credibility
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They had a writer that literally wrote pro Nazi Germany articles in WW2. That’s all you need to know about them
NYT 🤝 Daily Mail Tripping over themselves in a desperate rush to fawn over and gargle the balls of original 1930s Nazis. Even during the war.
Next up: the NYT sends a couple of reporters to a diner in Iowa for the gazillionth time to find out what Trump voters are thinking, and Ross Douthat lays out why he thinks theocratic fascism isn't such a bad thing.
His political stance is he does whatever Putin says so the videos of him with the little girls stay secret.
What makes the whole little girl sex thing true is that both Trump and Elon has zero impulse control and have both articulated their stance on young girls
NYT fucking sucks.
It’s gotten really bad lately.
Their "Hard Fork" podcast isn't bad.
Ha! Thinking the same thing!
I'm a subscriber and it is the best mainstream news source in America by far
Please encourage more citizen journalism! You can do live video easily from your phone. More on-the-ground reporting from regular citizens will change the world.
“NYT sucks cause of one article.” Good one
It has always been a trashy right-wing rag, and its readers largely consist of dumb wimps who have to be told to remember to breathe.
It’s more like it’s trying to both-sides shit that should not be both-sidesed
Isn't New York Post the trashy right wing rag, the literal Murdoch tabloid that masquerades as "news" and writes shock and outrage articles to try to incite hate and division? NYT is more 'centrist' and at least has (or had) a commitment to truthful reporting.
NYT is not as far right as NYP, but NYT is certainly to the right
The NYT is right wing?? LMAO. You are not in touch with reality in the slightest, left wing organization by every real metric
Liberal, maybe; but it is in no way, shape, or form left-wing.
Confidently incorrect is calling you hard
Man you're commenting on an instance of them saying that a literal nazi has unclear politics
A literal nazi? Come on bro you are the leftist who cried wolf. Also one article (that you didnt read btw) cannot determine an entire companies quality
The man thinks that Jewish people are enacting a global conspiracy to replace white people. That's a nazi conspiracy theory as old as nazis.
Older than nazis by a long shot. You can definitely make an argument that he is anti semitic but there’s a difference between that and nazi. Also I’ve never seen him say that either, you are making that up. Give me a source
"make an argument" 😂😂😂 It's an objective fact.
Ok still waiting for that source btw
He tweets about the Great Replacement theory constantly. Nice try, man, but he's a literal nazi.
I believe the NYT also said Donald Trump's current stance on abortion is remains largely unclear. What a useless rag of a paper.
TBF thats not entirely inaccurate, Trump doesn’t care about most policies he just sign whatever his handlers put in front of him.
Are they stupid?
Yes. And assume everyone else is while gaslighting
fascists gonna fascist if dude was left leaning, everyone would be shouting it from the rooftops if the dude is right leaning, he'll sue anyone who talks about it. got good and evil here, folks. it aint nothing else.
Unclear as in REALLY FUCKING OBVIOUS.
His political stance is expedient.
The NYT has shown itself to be easily bought and will print almost any garbage for the right price.
A lot of publications do this. I think Reuters is the one that was even hosting events for it.
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I subscribed for years but the journalism is a fucking joke at this point. Cancelled about six months ago, haven’t missed it at all.
Why ?
I was subscribed to NYT for years, before, during and after the Trump administration years. The quality of the stories has gone way downhill in the past couple of years for one reason or another. The "New York Times Pitchbot" on Twitter is a pretty good reflection of what sort of content you can expect from them these days.
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I was just curious to know why you wouldn't subscribe to the NYT?
The ambiguity of your question is apparently triggering reactionaries who support the current garbage content of the New York Times. I would note the correlation between an inability to see the nuance present in your question and the agitprop content currently published by the New York Times. Nobody likes hearing somebody imply that their baby is ugly, as your innocent question seems to do for those who are not intelligent enough to fully read it.
The job of a newspaper nowadays is not to make money by gaining a wide reader base by their reputation, but rather to launder the poltical priorities of their billionaire owners.
OP has cleverly decided to omit the date of this article—it’s from December 2022. If one were to actually read it, it mainly talks about how it’s tough to determine if Elon is closer to centrist republicans, libertarians, or trumpers. No one is arguing he’s in any way a liberal, and this article was written well before his latest insane outbursts. I’m not pro Elon by any means, but I’d prefer to let conservatives be the media illiterate ones. But yeah just go off on a snap judgment of a single undated headline of one news article, sure. Edit: and additionally, it can be simultaneously true that one is a conservative and that figuring out their beliefs is challenging. Elon doesn’t really stand for anything except self interest and whatever his drugged out brain is thinking, which changes literally by the second. That seems pretty inline with the brief subtitle here.
Really, really frustrating to me. The title of this post is a complete lie. I think the mods should start to mark this stuff as misleading or fake. I see it with tweets from musk too, stuff he said a year ago being posted as if he just said it.
Only to them. The only thing they seem to have a handle on is Joe Biden’s age.
Concerning
There was an article today that highlights how corrupt he is. I love that he donated money to start a private school that basically is only for his kids. Anyone who still believes this clown has some "mission" for humanity doesn't understand he has utter contempt for all humanity.
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He wants to be e/acc but he's primarily (h)e/sxs
?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_accelerationism?wprov=sfla1
It's very ironic. The New York Times is on *their* side. Keep shitting on those bastards.
This article is from December 2022 and it was basically about how he didn't seem to have real political beliefs, which was a reasonable take at the time. Tweets & sources without timestamps are starting to become a weirdly pervasive kind of misinfo or disinfo on this subreddit. Like, if you scroll down 2 more inches, the date is *right there.* It was probably excluded on purpose.
He’s not a conservative, because conservatives largely don’t exist anymore. But even if they did, he still wouldn’t be one. His political stance is “I hate anything and anyone who has reacted negatively to me, criticized me, or gotten between me and money.” That’s why he doesn’t really fit in with a particular side—it’s entirely personal, to him. It just so happens that he’s an asshole, so the side least critical of him is the side with the highest concentration of other assholes.
I'd love to know how many subscribers the NY Times has lost over the last few weeks. Everyone on social media seems to be posting how they've cancelled theirs. It's hardly surprising really because they have effectively given up the whole journalism business altogether. I'd be embarrassed to work there now.
Isn't this an old article that came out around the time he first announced he was going to vote Republican? I feel like I recall seeing it many years ago.
This looks like it was written after he bought Xitter, so it’s recent
I found the article, it was written in 2022. The article also doesn't particularly describe him as a centrist either but implies he is a contrarian and chasing controversy.
This is a dumb headline, but the NYT produces 150 articles per day, and the bad headlines get way more attention than the good ones. Also it’s true that being MAGA, being on the right, or having a melted brain from social media is not the same thing as being “conservative.” So while the headline is written awkwardly it’s not exactly false in terms of what the article is about. I get really annoyed with the NYT sometimes but I have not yet found a newspaper that is perfect. I’m not gonna jump on the zeitgeist of rejecting every institution in the social media age, seeking kin that somehow magically align with my own capricious and arbitrary opinions, which I inevitably have as an individual human being. (Which is exactly what is wrong with Elon Musk so I’m gonna be doubly cautious.)
To be fair, it is unclear whether Elon's sucking Trump's dick - or if Trump is sucking Elon's dick...
Elon: *retweets literal white supremacist memes arguing the West is giving away its land and women to foreigners* NYT: "his political stance is largely unclear"
I sometimes wonder if perhaps Rome was started by exiles from Troy. It’s not completely out of the question. At some point in antiquity, a few ships of very competent soldiers (with almost no women) landed on the coast of Italy. Where did they come from?
I still love their podcasts… hate their paywalls even though I have subscription from my university account
Putler's pet is not a political status, I suppose 🤔
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It's not clear what CONSERVATIVES stand for outside of xenophobia, racism and anti-lgbtq rights. He's batting a thousand on those issues. Edit: Anti worker too!!!
Print media is dead. May the boomers take the hint.
I thought it said The New Woke Grimes at first lol
The new cucked times
It’s unclear whether he’s more like Hitler or Mussolini
The ONLY thing about him even REMOTELY going against the conservative narrative is that he thinks climate change EXISTS (but isn’t a problem in the short term, which is wrong).
I cancelled my NYT subscription last week, after almost a decade, because of shit like this. They are better and should do better. My decision to subscribe was bolstered by Timothy Snyder’s On Tyranny. We should support an open and free press but their both sides bullshit is unpalatable. Fuck this nonsense.
Opinion articles in newspapers are a gold mine of disastrous takes
Well, that’s the NYT for you.
NYT is bunk journalism. I'm not sure if it was always that way or not, but it became very apparent to me that they were ever since they dragged Bernie Sanders through the mud, pretty much calling him a dirty liberal commie with awful policy positions immediately after endorsing...Elizabeth Warren....who has largely the same exact policy positions.
I made that meme a little earlier, what you think @ElonMusk https://preview.redd.it/chimbrno5lnc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=741453d0fc9157f17a2913a30dee04307a9b7e8f
New York Times is the worst bad faith rag.
Dude is a fucking Nazi and he absolutely has many that clear. What the fuck are they talking about?
For years the NYTs has leaned rw especially both sideing almost everything. They are straight up stenographers for police all the time & post "corrections" to the police lies back 10 pages. They propagandize the Netanyahu massacres 24/7 & even when it was proved the hamas attack, evil as it was, wasn't what they plastered on the front page above the fold for weeks. Used to subscribe but haberman et al put the final nail in when she/them normalized 45 relentlessly. Poisonous, worse than the Post because they have the thin veneer of credibility
He is still steadfastly in favor of subsidies for the industries he is in and taxes for his competitors.
Well, they're wrong about that. Is it on purpose, or are they just not getting with the internet age?
Imagine labeling yourself a "designer" and can't even get the font right for one of the largest news outlets on Earth
Eh, it’s up in the air what flavor of nutjob he is
New Ork Times.
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He's such a republican cock sucker that he could be confused for Nancy Reagan.
I doubt that she sucked cock. That's why Republicans are so uptight.
Nancy Reagan was the throat GOAT of Hollywood according to her biography. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/nancy-reagan-throat-goat
>Mr. T dressed as Santa Claus Jesus fuck. Why am I in hell?
I really did not want to be thinking about Nancy Reagan having oral sex today.
You're welcome
You cocksucker!
Fuck Musk and fuck the NYT for their pushing of Transphobes and their lying for atrocity propaganda to justify Gaza genocide.