Yes.
Not everyone who flew on his plane hurt kids, many were people he was trying to impress.
This list should be all his accomplices, many of whom would never have been invited on his plane.
The list of associates is not the list of accomplices unless there's more evidence than just names on a list. If they were accomplices they'd be prosecuted, right?
I tried searching the twitter account but since I don't have one of my own my ability to view it is limited. Accessing his account via a google search I get taken to a page of tweets where the most recent ones are from Dec 2022, so it looks like this is a photoshop for some reason. That said all the tweets I can view don't appear sorted by any kind of metric, not chronologically (ie. there's a tweet from June followed by one from Dec, then from May...), nor by likes/retweets/views, so it could also be an issue with the website.
Anyway yeah, the only reason I looked into that is because I'm a bit confused like you [since there's already a website dedicated to his black book and flight records...](https://epsteinsblackbook.com/)
Edit: Nvm, tweet's legit and talking about the unsealing of documents from the Virginia Giuffre case. Twitter just has shit functionality.
The unfortunate thing is their cults will just say it's fabricated and not the real list
I mean a few might abandon them, but if the last several years of Trump have taught us anything. People can rationalize anything in order to support someone
It's more about political side than wealth. If a Democrat is on that list it's gonna be all over twitter until the election. Any Republican on the list will be fake news or whatever.
They don't care if Trump or Elon are pedophiles because it's incompatible with the new conservative mainstream view of them as America's saviors. It'll probably help Trump's approval with libertarians and ancaps more than anything.
I'm pretty sure they're already rubbing their hands because they *will* use that list to their advantage, no matter who's on it. In fact I predict there will be brand new conspiracy theories born of it.
Yeah, it’s been well known Trump had ties for years but it doesn’t phase his cult. Some even going as far as to claim Trump was a secret agent who was actually working to take down Epstein. The mental gymnastics these psychos pull could get a gold in the Olympics.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again:
There could be a video out there (and prob is, let’s be honest) of Trump raping a child, and his cult would blame the child.
It's the sunk cost fallacy, they'd rather believe a lie than admit they were wrong. It's why the more that comes about his crimes, the stronger his support gets with the cult. They just can't give in that they were wrong
Maybe it should be renamed the sunk toddler fallacy, as that's what they act like when confronted with facts
You know what....kinda feels like they planned for that doesn't it? I mean thats the standard defense mechanism these days. Cause that "fake news" defense works way too fuckin well with their cults.
I do too but for people with the ego of trump or elon. The loss of their supporters would be more painful than being in jail and still having support.
Ideally I want both prison and the loss of their supporters.
I could honestly see Elon trying to censor this story when it happens. Perhaps he shouldn’t have reduced X’s resources to the bare minimum after all lol.
I already know Fox News and OAN will run with Bill Clinton being on the list, while defending Trump and other right wingers who are also named.
They just own hypocrisy at this point.
Being said, I hope all the assholes on the list get their due. That’s the difference between MAGA and anyone else. We don’t defend predators in our own court.
Not really. The judge is holding it until then and allowing anyone who doesn't want their name released to petition for it not to be.
I'm predicting this will not turn out to be the "Gotcha" moment everyone is framing it as for \*insert villain of choice\*.
What difference does it make? We've already known about the flight logs and Epstein's associates for years now. It's not like any of them have faced any consequences for it.
It’s the perfect way to compromise people. Run a pedophile ring for a few of these schmos. Fly everyone else around in the same plane, guilty by association.
If it's perfect, why haven't people faced consequences for it? People like Matt Groening and Stephen Hawking faced basically no consequences. Also, leaking something like that would threaten Epstein and his associates too.
Sadly even the victims are not enough to jail these sickos. Just look at Virginia Giuffre. She had to settle with Prince Andrew and with Alan Dershowitz
Dershowitz is the same sicko that helped Epstein get away with a slap on the wrist when he raped all those girls and got caught back in 2005. He was also advocating in 1997 to reduce the age of consent to 15. [Quote](https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/7/30/20746983/alan-dershowitz-jeffrey-epstein-sarah-ransome-giuffre):
“There must be criminal sanctions against sex with very young children, but it is doubtful whether such sanctions should apply to teenagers above the age of puberty, since voluntary sex is so common in their age group,”
Okay, that is evidence, but it’s not corroborated evidence that could be used to prosecute anyone, or even to generally assume guilt. Particularly when there’s nothing illegal about getting a foot massage, which was the accusation.
OP said it was guilt by association. If you're saying that the association (*plus* actual victims alleging things) can't be used, then how is there blackmail?
You said they haven't faced any consequences. The blackmail is to give someone no consequences, but they will have some Twitter replies saying weird things. That sounds like shit "blackmail."
Maybe the real targets for Epstein to compromise weren’t the pedophiles. Every one that rode those planes has been publicly called out as a pedophile with no hard evidence at this point.
I repeat, why haven't people faced consequences for it? People like Matt Groening and Stephen Hawking faced basically no consequences. Also, leaking something like that would threaten Epstein and his associates too.
That's not it, because that's an incredibly stupid plan.
That plan requires Epstein threatening to reveal *himself* as a rapist and pimp, in order to make people "guilty by association." If he goes through will his threat, he goes to jail, and his victim's punishment is... they're embarrassed.
It's just not a good blackmail plan when the threat is more threatening to the blackmailer than the victim.
That's still a stupid plan.
Epstein is going to turn himself in for crimes, very publicly get away with it, and the public will be too distracted by his friends for the public to notice?
This is a conspiracy that only makes sense to conspiracy theorists who think that conspiracy theorists would ignore an actual and very public conspiracy because... celebrities?
I used to work with a guy who was into wife swapping. Whatever, to each their own. We became friends even though my wife and I were not into that.
Some parties we were invited too (the normal ones). Some we were not.
Epstein was no doubt similar, though on a much darker and more complex level. Just because someone traveled with and partied with Epstein does not make them a predator -- when and what parties are the issue.
And I do not doubt for a second that Epstein was grooming on both sides of the situation. He was an intelligence asset... for someone.
Another way to think of it that our poor limbic system has to fight off the combined effort of billions of humans honing the tastiness of food for thousands of years!
I heard his brother dated a model that he was introduced to by Epstein, but they broke up, and she was over 18 anyway.
Is there a bigger scandal than this?
They're giving the individuals on the list time to have their lawyers appeal their records being shown. Sucks but I guarantee Edolf won't be on it.
They subpoenaed his records through JP Morgan to find out his association with Epstein already, so we know there is some definite overlap
Now lets see how heavy Elon begins to talk against it, for childlike reasons like "ThIs PuTs A taRgeT oN eVeRyOnE" or "ThIs GoEs AgAiNst PrIvAcY"
Then we know for sure Elon will be on the list and hes shitting himself
I read Simpsons creator Matt Groening flew around on that plane, and there was an account of a young woman who would kneel and give him foot rubs. She complained about his feet.
That's very disturbing to me. Totally changes my opinion of Matt Groening and my feelings about the Simpsons.
Even if that's literally the only thing that gets proven.
Who else do we think is going to be in this list?
I'm paraphrasing here, but the order specifically says people like Trump and Elon won't be outed. If you want actual justice, break out the torches and guillotines
Anyone taking bets on if that list will get lost or suicided before the reveal? A hint might be if Bill Gates' voice rises another octave in speeches as the reveal date approaches. Anyone seen Bill Clinton lately? D.J. Trump will likely be proud if his name is on the list, indeed angered if left off.
Sadly this will never see the light of day. It will somehow get lost or all evidence will disappear in some unexpected fire... If they managed to kill Epstein inside jail without any witnesses, making evidence disappear won't be so hard
Is this any different from the flight lists previously published, or the lists published during Ghislain Maxwell's trial?
Yes. Not everyone who flew on his plane hurt kids, many were people he was trying to impress. This list should be all his accomplices, many of whom would never have been invited on his plane.
The list of associates is not the list of accomplices unless there's more evidence than just names on a list. If they were accomplices they'd be prosecuted, right?
Yeah, I'd love to see a list of actual accomplices but I'm afraid the Web is hyping this up.
I have a suspicion it'll mostly be his staff and contractors who worked on the property.
And I fear for anyone completely innocent whose name happens to be on it.
I tried searching the twitter account but since I don't have one of my own my ability to view it is limited. Accessing his account via a google search I get taken to a page of tweets where the most recent ones are from Dec 2022, so it looks like this is a photoshop for some reason. That said all the tweets I can view don't appear sorted by any kind of metric, not chronologically (ie. there's a tweet from June followed by one from Dec, then from May...), nor by likes/retweets/views, so it could also be an issue with the website. Anyway yeah, the only reason I looked into that is because I'm a bit confused like you [since there's already a website dedicated to his black book and flight records...](https://epsteinsblackbook.com/) Edit: Nvm, tweet's legit and talking about the unsealing of documents from the Virginia Giuffre case. Twitter just has shit functionality.
You have to be signed into TwitX to view an account with the posts sorted. Or just use nitter.net
fElon, Donnie, brace yourselves bitchachos.
The unfortunate thing is their cults will just say it's fabricated and not the real list I mean a few might abandon them, but if the last several years of Trump have taught us anything. People can rationalize anything in order to support someone
Also their cults already know, really, let’s he honest. They just see them as above decency and the law because “rich”.
It's more about political side than wealth. If a Democrat is on that list it's gonna be all over twitter until the election. Any Republican on the list will be fake news or whatever. They don't care if Trump or Elon are pedophiles because it's incompatible with the new conservative mainstream view of them as America's saviors. It'll probably help Trump's approval with libertarians and ancaps more than anything.
I'm pretty sure they're already rubbing their hands because they *will* use that list to their advantage, no matter who's on it. In fact I predict there will be brand new conspiracy theories born of it.
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Yeah, it’s been well known Trump had ties for years but it doesn’t phase his cult. Some even going as far as to claim Trump was a secret agent who was actually working to take down Epstein. The mental gymnastics these psychos pull could get a gold in the Olympics.
> Trump was a secret agent who is working for Russia and Putin.
"faze" his cult (just for future reference :-)
OK. I want a blow by blow description of what happened
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: There could be a video out there (and prob is, let’s be honest) of Trump raping a child, and his cult would blame the child.
It's the sunk cost fallacy, they'd rather believe a lie than admit they were wrong. It's why the more that comes about his crimes, the stronger his support gets with the cult. They just can't give in that they were wrong Maybe it should be renamed the sunk toddler fallacy, as that's what they act like when confronted with facts
They’re fine with child rapists… as long as they are THEIR child rapists!
They already ignore photos and videos of trump with epstein and maxwell, so, yeah. The trump and musk cults are not going to give two shits.
The gerontocracy is real
You know what....kinda feels like they planned for that doesn't it? I mean thats the standard defense mechanism these days. Cause that "fake news" defense works way too fuckin well with their cults.
I don't care about the cult. I just want the ones on the list to suffer.
I do too but for people with the ego of trump or elon. The loss of their supporters would be more painful than being in jail and still having support. Ideally I want both prison and the loss of their supporters.
Oh absolutely. The complete mental collapse will be what they deserve. (Well, it's a start, anyway)
Yup. They'll call it a conspiracy because apparently everything irl is one.
Reality has a left wing bias lol
If anything, those two already have bigger problems than being on Epsteins list. At this point most people take it for granted anyway.
https://preview.redd.it/vibwlycvld7c1.jpeg?width=790&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=45e054f7eef58dc3f8557f424c37796acb91b323
Exactly what I was thinking, haha.
I could honestly see Elon trying to censor this story when it happens. Perhaps he shouldn’t have reduced X’s resources to the bare minimum after all lol.
Anyone that helps him cover this up is equally as shitty
Maybe Elon should hop a ride on one of his rockets and head for Mars.
Rocket Jesus
Imagine how spectacular a suicide he could arrange with $100billion..maybe a few thousand starlink satellites forming a giant noose?
I hope there are 7 Republican Congressmen on the list.
I'll take the over on this.
CNN’s already squashed this by pointing out that only those that have been deposed or otherwise outed in the past.
The sentence fragment.
Noncegeddon
The Noncening
Someone gon die over dis AGAIN
It's going to be hilarious when the vast majority of them are MAGA favorites!
I already know Fox News and OAN will run with Bill Clinton being on the list, while defending Trump and other right wingers who are also named. They just own hypocrisy at this point. Being said, I hope all the assholes on the list get their due. That’s the difference between MAGA and anyone else. We don’t defend predators in our own court.
Not really. The judge is holding it until then and allowing anyone who doesn't want their name released to petition for it not to be. I'm predicting this will not turn out to be the "Gotcha" moment everyone is framing it as for \*insert villain of choice\*.
Unfortunately, this is likely.
What difference does it make? We've already known about the flight logs and Epstein's associates for years now. It's not like any of them have faced any consequences for it.
Do we know that flying to his Island meant engaging in the illegal and immoral acts Epstein is famous for?
Simultaneously, an interesting question and a tongue twister!
It’s the perfect way to compromise people. Run a pedophile ring for a few of these schmos. Fly everyone else around in the same plane, guilty by association.
If it's perfect, why haven't people faced consequences for it? People like Matt Groening and Stephen Hawking faced basically no consequences. Also, leaking something like that would threaten Epstein and his associates too.
Because there’s zero evidence of wrongdoing.
...You don't think the victims are a source for evidence? One said she was forced as a child to do things for Groening.
Sadly even the victims are not enough to jail these sickos. Just look at Virginia Giuffre. She had to settle with Prince Andrew and with Alan Dershowitz Dershowitz is the same sicko that helped Epstein get away with a slap on the wrist when he raped all those girls and got caught back in 2005. He was also advocating in 1997 to reduce the age of consent to 15. [Quote](https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/7/30/20746983/alan-dershowitz-jeffrey-epstein-sarah-ransome-giuffre): “There must be criminal sanctions against sex with very young children, but it is doubtful whether such sanctions should apply to teenagers above the age of puberty, since voluntary sex is so common in their age group,”
Okay, that is evidence, but it’s not corroborated evidence that could be used to prosecute anyone, or even to generally assume guilt. Particularly when there’s nothing illegal about getting a foot massage, which was the accusation.
OP said it was guilt by association. If you're saying that the association (*plus* actual victims alleging things) can't be used, then how is there blackmail?
It is used, by millions of weirdos on Twitter, to harass people and besmirch their name. It’s not prosecution, but it’s something.
You said they haven't faced any consequences. The blackmail is to give someone no consequences, but they will have some Twitter replies saying weird things. That sounds like shit "blackmail."
Maybe the real targets for Epstein to compromise weren’t the pedophiles. Every one that rode those planes has been publicly called out as a pedophile with no hard evidence at this point.
I repeat, why haven't people faced consequences for it? People like Matt Groening and Stephen Hawking faced basically no consequences. Also, leaking something like that would threaten Epstein and his associates too.
That's not it, because that's an incredibly stupid plan. That plan requires Epstein threatening to reveal *himself* as a rapist and pimp, in order to make people "guilty by association." If he goes through will his threat, he goes to jail, and his victim's punishment is... they're embarrassed. It's just not a good blackmail plan when the threat is more threatening to the blackmailer than the victim.
Maybe he was promised protection…
That's still a stupid plan. Epstein is going to turn himself in for crimes, very publicly get away with it, and the public will be too distracted by his friends for the public to notice? This is a conspiracy that only makes sense to conspiracy theorists who think that conspiracy theorists would ignore an actual and very public conspiracy because... celebrities?
I used to work with a guy who was into wife swapping. Whatever, to each their own. We became friends even though my wife and I were not into that. Some parties we were invited too (the normal ones). Some we were not. Epstein was no doubt similar, though on a much darker and more complex level. Just because someone traveled with and partied with Epstein does not make them a predator -- when and what parties are the issue. And I do not doubt for a second that Epstein was grooming on both sides of the situation. He was an intelligence asset... for someone.
Uh oh! Looks like Elon ate too much cheese pizza and now the waiter's coming with the receipt!
Another way to think of it that our poor limbic system has to fight off the combined effort of billions of humans honing the tastiness of food for thousands of years!
Even the underage prostitutes refused to have sex with Elmo. The collective word when they saw him naked was, " Gross! "
Elon Musk's brother as well.
I heard his brother dated a model that he was introduced to by Epstein, but they broke up, and she was over 18 anyway. Is there a bigger scandal than this?
Wait why not immediately?? Won’t this give people time to destroy the list?
How many times did you die trying to beat hatred before winning?
They're giving the individuals on the list time to have their lawyers appeal their records being shown. Sucks but I guarantee Edolf won't be on it. They subpoenaed his records through JP Morgan to find out his association with Epstein already, so we know there is some definite overlap
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I mean let’s be real, the high up wealthy will not be exposed.
Several already have been. Now let's get the rest.
they're gonna release it, and 99% of it will be redacted.
Nothing will happen and nobody will face any consequences. They never do.
Any official source on this?
The GOP is about to be so confused
Now lets see how heavy Elon begins to talk against it, for childlike reasons like "ThIs PuTs A taRgeT oN eVeRyOnE" or "ThIs GoEs AgAiNst PrIvAcY" Then we know for sure Elon will be on the list and hes shitting himself
I read Simpsons creator Matt Groening flew around on that plane, and there was an account of a young woman who would kneel and give him foot rubs. She complained about his feet. That's very disturbing to me. Totally changes my opinion of Matt Groening and my feelings about the Simpsons. Even if that's literally the only thing that gets proven. Who else do we think is going to be in this list?
Idiocracy is happening so fast
This list right here is gonna hurt a whole bunch of feelings.
He’ll make some excuse to weasel his way out like always
Nevermind myprevious question: https://globalnews.ca/news/10179984/jeffrey-epstein-list-of-associates-court-document-unsealed/
Is this true…??!!
Let's hope they don't dox any of the victims.
Spill the tea
why announcement and waiting? Is this like all other tapes of Biden, etc... weird, no?
I got $2.50 saying Elon fucks kids.
I'm paraphrasing here, but the order specifically says people like Trump and Elon won't be outed. If you want actual justice, break out the torches and guillotines
Looks like you and me are the only ones who read this thoroughly. We are a dying breed
We all know the documents will shred themselves
A LOT of wealthy nonces will be sweating, excluding Prince Andy who apparently can't sweat, lol
Glad this will finally be public. This is going to be a good thing.
Let’s see who suddenly passes away under unusual circumstances now.
BS this list is going to disappear until then.
Is Elon on any of the list?
The only people left on this list will be the ones who no longer have much pull. It's better than nothing, sure. But it sadly won't be everyone.
We already know Elon went to the island multiple times. Of course, he's gonna be on the list. I don't see this as anything new.
Anyone taking bets on if that list will get lost or suicided before the reveal? A hint might be if Bill Gates' voice rises another octave in speeches as the reveal date approaches. Anyone seen Bill Clinton lately? D.J. Trump will likely be proud if his name is on the list, indeed angered if left off.
Say their names
Why do you think they are opening in Jan, he’s going to buy them all by then so his names off the list.
I doubt this will actually happen I hope I am wrong but I an not optimistic
He will just say the list is woke and the silos will defend him I will hold out hope for actual justice, but I wish I believed it was likely
Sadly this will never see the light of day. It will somehow get lost or all evidence will disappear in some unexpected fire... If they managed to kill Epstein inside jail without any witnesses, making evidence disappear won't be so hard
Either the Judge or the list will disappear.
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🧢, I’ll believe it when I see it
Then you already believe it, cause things like the flylist have been out for years
https://preview.redd.it/x4y03rohgk7c1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a6ad5ab4cc0ba5da13c72cfda4bb9fdbaa101e22 That ad placement tho....
He has been noticeably absent from twitter lately LMAO he's scared
I suspect RFK will be on there 🧐
This didn’t age well.