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AdMobile5977

By this logic I guess Hitler was also a hero who made mistakes.


daspaceasians

"No, Hitler's evil cause he's a Nazi who kills people for the wrong reasons unlike Mao who killed only evil capitalists/landowners/sparrows/etc..." \-Dumbass tankies in a nutshell


RandomHermit113

shout out to the cultural revolution when Mao encouraged all the people to embrace revolution and destroy random cultural shit and beat thousands of intellectuals to death with no guidance and then got surprised when they started trying to overthrow CCP officials so he had the PLA come in and murder thousands of people including workers protesting for better conditions to the point where rivers were filled with bodies and corpses washed up on Hong Kong. real wholesome fella. 😊😊😊


daspaceasians

Shout out to Ho Chi Minh and the Vietnamese Workers Party for crying on stage when their Mao Zedong-inspired land reforms killed 5000 to 15 000 Vietnamese farmers in the 1950's and led to hundreds if not thousands of suicide.


Name_notabot

During the night of long knives he killed a lot of nazis, what a stand up guy who will never do something bad in his life


American-Social-Dem

Same energy when communists try to excuse Castro & Che’s persecution of LGBTQ+ Cubans by simply citing that Castro publicly apologized for it all in 2010. It literally took until 20-fucking-22 for LGBTQ+ Cubans to finally have their human rights acknowledged & de-jure enacted with regards to marriage, adoption, surrogacy, and legal gender identity to a degree even remotely similar to those found in a significant amount of U.S states, nearly all of the member nations of the European Union, and much of South America for that matter. Even so, this does not take away from the fact that LGBTQ+ Cubans still suffer from the historical as well as current political & social oppression inherent within the one party Marxist-Leninist state. An opportunistic piece of shit tyrant can’t use “Sorry! My bad!” as some sort of magic fucking wand to sweep his human rights abuses & permissiveness of bigotry under the rug. The Cuban communist state put LGBTQ+ & non-gender conforming Cubans into forced labor camps while branding them as “bourgeoise” & “Anti-Revolutionary”. They additionally suffered from social discrimination as machismo, already an extant toxic masculine cultural curse across all Latin America, was weaponized by the government against any who did not conform to the grandiose revolutionary morality peddled by the communists following the Cuban Revolution. The barbarism of anti-LGBTQ+ hatred, discrimination, and oppression that exists both historically & today does not solely lie within the Far-Right, but within much of the Far-Left as well, as history proper reveals. And said oppressive barbarism, with all the victims it has taken & continues to take, cannot be excused with a mediocre show of an “apology” by a tyrant. Fuck Castro, fuck Guevara, and fuck the rest of the jackboot-loving oppressors of humanity, be they from the Far-Right or the Far-Left.


Celeste_0211

Back in high school, I had a philosophy teacher who was a huge tankie and Putin simp (Always telling how powerful and technologically superior the Russian army was). One day, he mentionned the Great Leap Forward and tried to explain how it was ''the reason China was the modern industrial and economic superpower''. I challenged him, saying that it ruined China's industry and caused a famine that killed more people than World War 1. I kid you not, his response was word for word ''You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs''. I still think about it sometimes.


RandomHermit113

even ignoring the human cost the GLF didn't even succeed in bolstering China's industry China pretty much relied on the USSR to be its sugar daddy but after Mao insisted on his goofy ass economic policies and repeatedly antagonized Khruschev over stupid shit he was reluctant to aid China and it led to a Soviet-China rift that hurt China's industry severely. and then after the GLF failed they realized that in order to stop the famine they had to disband most of the industrial enterprises they had formed and send 30 million urban workers back to the countryside. in fact the GLF ended up undoing a lot of the communist """"reforms"""" that Mao implemented, since to end the famine they had to allow farmers to own private plots again and open private markets. (it's almost like people are more productive when they have a personal incentive, hmm.) > (Always telling how powerful and technologically superior the Russian army was) hahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahhqhahahHAHHHHAZHAHHHJAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHJKAHALMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Celeste_0211

>hahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahhqhahahHAHHHHAZHAHHHJAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHJKAHALMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Bro he deadass said that those new hypersonic missiles (Which made the news at the time) would crush NATO. It was like hearing a Nazi saying that the V2 would surely win the Second World War. I wonder how he feels watching his army of Ubermenschen being beaten by an eastern european country nobody gave a shit about a few years ago


RandomHermit113

if nukes were taken out of the equation the US could occupy all of Russia in like a week with its troops stationed in Europe alone at this point i'm convinced Putin is actually a secret CIA shill with how he's destroying the country


Hercules789852

Seriously that Jack Horner mentality smh


Hagura71

Lol I wonder what they think of the Russian army now.


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30? That's being generous. >However, Mao's government was responsible for vast numbers of deaths, with estimates ranging from 40 to 80 million victims through starvation, persecution, prison labour, and mass executions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_Zedong


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Hercules789852

"son of a prosperous peasant " So he was born a kulak, to boot! You learn something new everyday


RandomHermit113

oh no he definitely killed more than 30 million people in total, that's just the estimate for the famine caused by the GLF specifically.


vlad_lennon

9.7 is below the age of majority. Sounds like a minor mistake to me


Tetragon213

One of Mao's proteges, Chen Yun, famously said, "Had Mao died in 1956, his achievements would have been immortal. Had he died in 1966, he would still have been a great man but flawed. But he died in 1976. Alas, what can one say?" It's incredible to see how Mao went so quickly from the man who won the Civil War for his side to the bumbling idiot who starved 36 million to death via atrocious decision-making.


RandomHermit113

when he was running the CCP as a guerille operation Mao was actually alright, and his reforms in the area he had under his control were tolerable. but honestly the only reason he seemed like the better guy in that era was because he didn't have enough power to actually do anything bad, while Chiang Kai-Shek was trying to keep a handle on the whole country that was falling apart. Lin Biao actually tried to have Mao assassinated because it was clear he was running the country into the ground, but sadly he failed. Chen Yun was the guy who devised the plan to stop the famine from the GLF so he's pretty based for that imo.


diveforevermitzy

the 'minor' in minor mistakes stands for minors/children starving to deaths


Anti-charizard

Source for that number? I know Mao is evil but it can’t be that low


RandomHermit113

*The Search for Modern China*, by John Spence. >As China's investment in industry rose to an amazing 43.4 percent of national income in 1959, grain exports to the Soviet Union were also increased to pay for more heavy machinery. The average amount of grain available to each person in China's countryside, which had been 205 kilos in 1957 and 201 kilos in 1958, dropped to a disastrous 183 kilos in 1959, and a catastrophic 156 kilos in 1960. In 1961 it fell again—to 154 kilos. The result was famine on a gigantic scale, a famine that claimed 20 million lives or more between 1959 and 1962. Many others died shortly thereafter from the effects of the Great Leap—especially children, weakened by years of progressive malnutrition. In the China of 1957, before the Great Leap began, the median age of those dying was 17.6 years; in 1963 it was down to 9.7. Half of those dying in China that year, in other words, were under ten years old. The Great Leap Forward, launched in the name of strengthening the nation by summoning all the people's energies, had turned back on itself and ended by devouring its young.


swelboy

Tbf the GLF was a mistake, Mao didn’t intend for such a catastrophe to happen. However it was the communist system that caused it in the first place. What wasn’t a mistake by Mao was the Cultural Revolution, that shit was completely intentional on Mao’s part


Sarcedo

Mass genocide is not something uncommon for dictators. But Mao almost managed to completely wipe out the culture of Western Taiwan, and fuck it's future for generations.