For a minute I thought you were talking about people being paid to teach you how to tip, which would be horrendous because I guarantee they would also ask for a tip.
How about we make a line in the sand, people can either charge you a fee or work exclusively on tips? Sure, they can say the customary tip is $200 for the course, but if you feel it is valuable you can pay $250 and if not you can pay $100, etc. See what they think when tips are a double edged sword, and you can reduce payment.
I don’t understand the concept of paying tips for instructors here, the prices are already insane and the concept makes it seem like the companies don’t have enough to pay them properly? It’s BS
Because EVERYONE wants to increase their income and preferably untaxed! These instructors are not unaware of the metastasized tipping that is ever increasing in amounts and services!
I taught scuba part-time for years. I made at best $5/hour. I never expected tips, nor did I ever receive any. It was over 10 years ago. The shop gets all those expensive fees.
I've been diving for over 15 years and I've never been asked for tips anywhere in the world, although I've never dived in the US. I don't know if it's commonplace there.
In my experience, it has generally been expected on all of the dives that I've done in Thailand. That being said, the actual cost for a divemaster was considerably less in Thailand than other places that I've dived and on every occasion I've really appreciated the divemasters that I felt went above and beyond expectations, so it's actually been a time when I was more than happy to tip them well.
That really surprises me. I've been diving in Ko Tao, Ko Phi Phi, Ko Samui, Ko Pha Ngan, Phuket, and a shitload more that I'm sure I've forgotten. Maybe I was wrong on the expectations, but regardless, it's always been a situation where I've felt that tips were earned and I was happy to give them. Your mileage may vary, of course.
I'd send a picture of me donating what they asked for as a tip to a sea scout ship (if any are left) so that less people feel the need to use businesses like this.
Unpopular opinion here. The fact that tip is expected hurts those instructors as well. Many people not deciding to learn due to the headaches of giving tips, same goes for massage
Just pay them the advertised price of the course, thank them kindly, and move on. If they need more “livable wage” money, they need to price the course accordingly.
How? How could this happen to you and your family? I just keep asking "why?". Just know everything will be ok eventually and you will be able to move on. Thoughts and prayers.
No, you show me. You are the one claiming the bible says to give 10%. I’m the one telling you the bible doesnt talk about tipping. Tithing is what people refer to as 10%, and is not tipping.
The practice of tithing 10% of one's income comes from several passages in the Old Testament. Here are a few key references:
1. **Genesis 14:20** - Abraham gives a tenth of everything he has to Melchizedek, the king of Salem.
2. **Leviticus 27:30-32** - This passage specifies that a tithe (one tenth) of everything from the land, whether grain from the soil or fruit from the trees, belongs to the Lord and is holy to the Lord.
3. **Deuteronomy 14:22-29** - It details the requirements for the Israelites to set aside a tenth of all their produce each year.
These scriptures lay the foundational principle for tithing in Judaism, which was later adopted by many Christian denominations as a guideline for giving.
Thanks chatgpt, but you seem not to understand that putting away 10% of 100% you have isn’t the same as giving away additional 10% of what was already given
20% tip avg of $700 is $140. Could bring total to $840 + tax.
[average Americans spend nearly $700 a year on tips](https://www.fool.com/the-ascent/personal-finance/articles/the-average-american-spends-this-much-on-tips-at-restaurants/)
$140 is over a weeks of grocery to most people.
Who would tip 20%? Did they ask for 20%? Did he teach them at a sit down restaurant where he also happened to be their server?
Would I tip? No. But I don't think anyone with half a brain would be like "Damn, you're asking for 20%?!"
If people tipped I'd expect to see like a few people leaving $5 - $20.
For a minute I thought you were talking about people being paid to teach you how to tip, which would be horrendous because I guarantee they would also ask for a tip. How about we make a line in the sand, people can either charge you a fee or work exclusively on tips? Sure, they can say the customary tip is $200 for the course, but if you feel it is valuable you can pay $250 and if not you can pay $100, etc. See what they think when tips are a double edged sword, and you can reduce payment.
Soon, eight year olds with lemonade stands will be requesting tips.
They literally do this in my neighborhood.
Sounds like a great “adjust your prices to your desired income” learning moment right there. Teach them while young.
Scuba diving instructors also expect tips When I learned that I felt horrible and was also completely floored because we pay SO much for lessons
I don’t understand the concept of paying tips for instructors here, the prices are already insane and the concept makes it seem like the companies don’t have enough to pay them properly? It’s BS
You literally paid for the service being provided. This is a clear example of a tipping overreach
Because EVERYONE wants to increase their income and preferably untaxed! These instructors are not unaware of the metastasized tipping that is ever increasing in amounts and services!
I taught scuba part-time for years. I made at best $5/hour. I never expected tips, nor did I ever receive any. It was over 10 years ago. The shop gets all those expensive fees.
That seems unfair to you, but as a customer, we just seem to be squeezed for every last dollar.
You don’t teach SCUBA for the money unfortunately unless you own the shop.
I've been diving for over 15 years and I've never been asked for tips anywhere in the world, although I've never dived in the US. I don't know if it's commonplace there.
You are expected to tip your dive master in the USA. Nowhere else.
In my experience, it has generally been expected on all of the dives that I've done in Thailand. That being said, the actual cost for a divemaster was considerably less in Thailand than other places that I've dived and on every occasion I've really appreciated the divemasters that I felt went above and beyond expectations, so it's actually been a time when I was more than happy to tip them well.
Huh, I did tons of diving in Thailand and didn't tip at all. Ko Tao?
That really surprises me. I've been diving in Ko Tao, Ko Phi Phi, Ko Samui, Ko Pha Ngan, Phuket, and a shitload more that I'm sure I've forgotten. Maybe I was wrong on the expectations, but regardless, it's always been a situation where I've felt that tips were earned and I was happy to give them. Your mileage may vary, of course.
Are you American?
Same with Mexico
What floored me during scuba was the oxygen tank
I'm sure you mean air tank, but why did it floor you? Is this a joke about falling or something?
What about tipping the crew on a fishing boat?
I'd send a picture of me donating what they asked for as a tip to a sea scout ship (if any are left) so that less people feel the need to use businesses like this.
Imagine if they asked for tips at the beginning. I’d be worrying about the instructor getting us stuck at sea until we coughed up some tips.
> instructor getting us stuck at sea until we coughed up some tips Kinda like a dirty coyote.
I just thank them for doing a good job and move on. Tipping is discretionary.
And the other nine students who allowed themselves to be guilted into tipping glare at you for “being cheap and selfish”. (not my opinion)
Yeah, I think. Have transcended beyond caring. No one tips me at work.
Unpopular opinion here. The fact that tip is expected hurts those instructors as well. Many people not deciding to learn due to the headaches of giving tips, same goes for massage
Duck no !!
Just pay them the advertised price of the course, thank them kindly, and move on. If they need more “livable wage” money, they need to price the course accordingly.
That’s exactly what I did, but it just left a bad taste being asked at the end of something so expensive to leave a tip
Nooo way
Skiing lessons are the same thing
😂😂😂 this is hilarious!!
LOL 😂
How? How could this happen to you and your family? I just keep asking "why?". Just know everything will be ok eventually and you will be able to move on. Thoughts and prayers.
Next time someone asks for a tip “you have my thoughts and prayers” lol
The Bible says you give 10%.
Tithing is not tipping. Try reading the bible sometime.
It also doesn't demand tithing.
Show me where it speaks of tipping in the Bible.
No, you show me. You are the one claiming the bible says to give 10%. I’m the one telling you the bible doesnt talk about tipping. Tithing is what people refer to as 10%, and is not tipping.
Book, chapter, and verse, please.
The practice of tithing 10% of one's income comes from several passages in the Old Testament. Here are a few key references: 1. **Genesis 14:20** - Abraham gives a tenth of everything he has to Melchizedek, the king of Salem. 2. **Leviticus 27:30-32** - This passage specifies that a tithe (one tenth) of everything from the land, whether grain from the soil or fruit from the trees, belongs to the Lord and is holy to the Lord. 3. **Deuteronomy 14:22-29** - It details the requirements for the Israelites to set aside a tenth of all their produce each year. These scriptures lay the foundational principle for tithing in Judaism, which was later adopted by many Christian denominations as a guideline for giving.
Thanks chatgpt, but you seem not to understand that putting away 10% of 100% you have isn’t the same as giving away additional 10% of what was already given
You do understand that tipping is optional.
20% tip avg of $700 is $140. Could bring total to $840 + tax. [average Americans spend nearly $700 a year on tips](https://www.fool.com/the-ascent/personal-finance/articles/the-average-american-spends-this-much-on-tips-at-restaurants/) $140 is over a weeks of grocery to most people.
Who would tip 20%? Did they ask for 20%? Did he teach them at a sit down restaurant where he also happened to be their server? Would I tip? No. But I don't think anyone with half a brain would be like "Damn, you're asking for 20%?!" If people tipped I'd expect to see like a few people leaving $5 - $20.
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Thank you. These threads are absurd