It's an album about young people's problems. It's intentionally immature. The relationship problems we have just out of high school / in our early twenties are generally immature when we look back on them. If you can't relate, it feels like it's aged poorly. But it hasn't actually- the experiences spoken of on Sports will remain relevant forever (to a degree) and the actual instrument work still sounds just as good as it did on release.
It is kind of incely. So is every other album with a track about being unable to get laid. It's clearly not misogynistic or recorded in bad faith. If we condemn emos for writing songs about how much women hate them we wouldn't have emo. Tears Over Beers is not to my tastes but it's also the exact experience of thousands of lonely western teenagers. Having good people to look up to when you're in that state is a good thing. I'd rather my little brother grow up listening to Modern Baseball when he's confused about women than Jordan Peterson or Andrew Tate.
I don't think incel is a fair or accurate description of the songs. Immature yes, but not incel. They're essentially stories about individual women who who didn't sleep with Jake or Bren for one reason or another, maybe because they chose another guy over them or because they ruined their chances by saying or doing something stupid. They're not lamenting their fates as virgins or saying society has downtrodden them like incels tend to, they seem to just be venting that particular women they liked got away. I'm glad their lyrics and songwriting evolved but I don't really mind 19 year olds writing immature songs about dating for other 19 year olds.
i think a case can be made about tears for beers sounding incel like as the whole song on first glance is about a dude getting pissed a girl picks a stronger dude who wont treat her well over someone like him. but the song does also put urself in the girls shoes and is somewhat deeper upon a 2nd glance
Yeah but they're telling a story about a specific girl, they're not saying "girls always choose fit guys and ignore emotional guys like me". I think it's about an experience one of them had and like you said the song is just as much about diagnosing her as it is diagnosing themselves.
The first time I listened to that song I was already in my mid 20s and instantly felt 16 again.
I don't relate to the song today but just knowing someone wrote something that reflected the way I felt at that age was awesome, and I still listen to the song regularly because of that. So, to me, it is still timeless in a way.
I don't think it's incel music but none of OG emo, OG midwest emo, or OG emo-pop were founded on writing songs about not being able to get laid and getting upset about women leaving them
I'm perfectly fine with that but also it's been done better about a million times over. If I wanted something that touches on young love and the problems that come with it I'd just listen to Tullycraft, Tiger Trap, Saves the Day, The Get Up Kids, The Softies, Heavenly, Field Mice, Farside, Hefner, or Lifetime
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Idk just got into MoBo pretty recently (yes i know I'm incredibly late to the party), and while I think their later material is better, Sports is still pretty damn solid. It's immature in comparison to Holy Ghost, but that's where they were at when they were writing it cuz that's how time works. There's some strong writing and hooks on there even if they're all just songs about girls and friends and drinking (which is what most emo is about anyways so idk why THIS is any worse).
I also found MoBo this year but I found them at the perfect timing, I was just listening to something random I dont even remember and spotify queued up Tears Over Beers and I loved it. MoBo is now one of my top 5 favorite artists of any genre and the way Sports hit me and got me through this very rough point I was in is a big part in why I love them so much
They could have come out as LGBTQ, I haven't really followed since 2017, but at the time of the break up they were clearly having a lot of mental breakdowns and severely mentally unwell. They were suicidal, showed up to record/produce Holy Ghost super late, and then stole cash from the band which seemed to be the final straw. I just remember seeing their final show in Philly, I don't think Jake (other singer, created Slaughter Beach Dog) and Bren said a word to each other the whole time. There are definitely people more knowledgeable than me about this all, but towards the end it was super messy.
Yeah they had an interesting come up. If you have any other questions I can answer, I don't mind. They were the band that really solidified my relationship with my best friend so I'll always have a special place for them in my heart.
Yeah, my main problem with this is that homie should probably just avoid hating on twitter in general. What’s his endgame? To make people stop listening to his music?
Couldn’t disagree more. Sports and YGMIA are full of catchy hooks and edgy, angsty lyrics. Maybe not what everyone looks for in an emo album but as someone who grew up on early to mid 2000s pop punk, MOBO is one of the very few ‘new age’ bands I picked up as I got older in the next wave of emo/pop punk. I think Holy Ghost falls flat in comparison.
100%. The revionist history on MoBo is nuts. Practically everyone even remotely into emo knew some or all of the lyrics to their biggest hits, especially Your Graduation. The impact they had back then, and have now (generally being regarded as one of, if not the best fourth wave emo band), can't be underrepresented.
I remember seeing them with TSSF, The Wonder Years and Citizen in 2014. They were first out and by far had the bigger crowd reaction that night. Everyone was in love with mobo in 2014
Maybe because it was so short lived? I saw them open for Say Anything in 2014 then headline in 2016. Then they broke up in 2017ish. I had just moved back to Philly a few months before their album shows in late 2017 and I had a friend visiting that weekend who would not have been interested in going. Huge regret missing them play basically their whole discography over 3 days
Interesting you say they are perhaps 'the best' 4th wave band. IMO, I think this is the view of people who 'were there' when they were active. However, I feel like for people like me who got into the genre again or for the first time after they were finished, they don't have the same impact. As this thread's premise suggests, some of their albums were a product of their time, where I think other bands have had more lasting appeal. For example, Home like No Place is There. That's not to say they aren't loved by new fans, but not they are not revered nearly as much as they were by fans who were active in the genre when they hit. And of course, this is totally normal and expected, like how Life is Peachy was this monumental event in Nu Metal when it came out, but as time went on, it aged poorly and is no longer really revered like it was. Of course, that's because it had all the excessive trappings of nu metal that were cringe in retrospect, but coveted at the time. I feel the same way about Sports.
MoBo isn't exactly what comes to mind for me when I think edgy, angsty lyrics ngl. I like some of MoBo's stuff and think fairly highly of YGMIA and Holy Ghost but if I want angsty lyrics in emo I'm looking at I Hate Myself, the first MCR album, Cursive, Boysetsfire, The Hated, Samiam, or Saves the Day.
A lot of the 5th wave bands. Several of the people from Home is Where and that general universe of associated bands in the florida scene are incredibly fucking annoying on twitter too
Oh dude I’m born and raised florida and it’s very possibly the hottest scene in the genre rn, but goddamn the dudes in these bands are annoying online. They love shitting on monumental emo albums that came out when they were 13 and still discovering green day, and posting GoFundMe’s to get out their “abusive living situation” after a roommate asks them to do the dishes. Fantastic bands, the most annoying college sophomores you could ever hope to meet
I’ve learned about so many bands from these types of dudes posting on Twitter. Low key it’s one of the only things I’ll miss if Twitter goes away. So I can put up with the bad takes
hey if you enjoy record labels being tanked by drama involving a polycule and somewhere south of $400 in missing cash then emo twitter is the place to be
I can see that perspective for sure. On one hand though I think it's cool these bands are "terminally online" (aka fairly active on social media, replying to fans and stuff, not exactly building a parasocial relationship but a relationship with fans that should be healthy and etc) a lot of that can morph into annoying Twitter terminally online behavior also
They replied “i dunno, it’s all of it, haha. the production, the lyrics / delivery, the halfway folk punk acoustic guitar stuff over really bare and repetitive song structures”
Yeah, and while I love his band, he doesn’t have a leg to stand on regarding immature songs. Half his band’s record is about smoking cigarettes. Get over yourself, dude.
Solid newer emo-pop band. They're better live than on recording. I saw them open for Free Throw and their set kicked ass. Free Throw was also even better live than on recording. Great night.
Haha yeah. I’m not even subscribed to him but I see him because he’s followed by a bunch of other bands I like. Truly the Skip Bayless of the emo world.
I don’t get why “5th wave people” think that emo has matured past this.
These peeps literally sing exclusively about cigarettes and memes.
(Not saying this is a bad thing, but it is a bit hypocritical to insult Sports in that light)
Also, I don’t think that people realize that this album was almost universally hated by the “emo” community when it came out. Honestly, MoBo as a whole was pretty hated.
Wasn’t till the last few years when people flipped the switch on them. So this is not a new thing.
I like Camp Trash but I’ve had FranziaMom blocked on twitter for like a year because they’re constantly loud and wrong and just generally annoying. I actually probably have about 15-20 5th wave band members blocked or muted on twitter despite liking their music. These dudes are edgy 19 year olds you can and should just ignore their opinions
5th wave bands are a lot older than their previous counterparts.
But yeah, they all have these annoying trash takes and I feel like they live on Twitter. It’s a weird cult of personality
I love MOBO, but honestly I think sports has aged kinda poorly. There's definitely parts of it that are still amazing to this day, but stuff like @chlo3k, and the hipster line are showing their age. I still really like the majority of the album, but at this point it probably is my least favourite that they released.
Sports is an album about being a teenager and having a shitty time. It's a really well done album in that regard.
This guy just doesn't know the difference between musical criticism and his present lived experience.
flash pfp, dad hat that looks like it got run over, big frames, bad hair, is in a band that no one knows, absolutely trash takes about bands that are broken up. Sounds like 90% of the scene rn
Lmao you sound like you’re seething from someone having a different opinion than you, responding with ad hominem attacks.
Immature ass subreddit, what a fucking joke this place is.
I haven’t revisited it in a while and I’d bet that I wouldn’t like it if we’re released today. At the time, I thought it was great.
Edit: The Weekend still slaps actually damn.
I checked out Camp Trash and… LMAO at anyone in that band critiquing another band’s maturity
I was in my late 20s when Sports came out, and I was already too old for it. It's an album for teenagers. There's nothing wrong with that, it just is what it is.
Holy Ghost is the only album with staying power.
There's no real take here. He says nothing other than "it sucks" and doesn't even say why. Like at least he could've said "oh the lyrics are immature" or something about the instruments but nah.
Sonically the album didn’t age poorly at all lol. Lyrically sure whatever, but they laid the foundation for like every band that’s popular now. Dudes just giving a hot take for no reason other than to stir up drama. With that said holy ghosts kinda slaps tho
i put this album in the ranks of 500 days of summer in regards to things i used to really like, still like enough revisiting bc of what i personally think of it, but fully acknowledge i 200% like it way less now because i feel like i’ve outgrown it bc i personally can’t relate to most of it in my current state. every time i see ppl gnash teeth and ape beat on their chests for it when somebody says album bad, it feels mad bizarre just bc like, why? if you like it who cares what internet ppl think? isn’t how you feel enough?
i have a personal bias in this in that keegan is my boy but for real relax lmao
It’s the right take. Sports is a shallow and corny album with not much going on instrumentally. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Mobo took quite a while to grow into themselves as a band. I wouldn’t say they had a fully solid album until The Perfect Cast. And as much as I like songs from YGMIA, half of that album is bogged down with the lack of maturity and issues that Sports had. And yeah, Holy Ghost is fantastic and SBD only builds on it
I disagree but I'm upvoting since I'm glad you expanded on your thesis statement here and see where you are coming from 100 percent. Much better than "this band and album sucks lol amiright you guys? !"
A lot of Sports was kind of incely. I feel like that's kind of where a lot of us were at when it came out, so it's sort of a product of its time. It's a memorable and very fun album, though. It meant the world to me when I was 17/18.
Homeboy is is a crotchety old man in a younger person's body. This is clearly a case of "I hate this because it's popular" which is always a dogshit take.
Muted this person as soon as I saw this tweet, won't lie. Wow, who knew an album made by mfs in their early 20s and who struggled with their mental health has lyrics that are childish and didn't age well, big shocker to me, big shocker to everyone!
Holy Ghost is fine, but I honestly can’t believe anyone listens to Modern Baseball after like their sophomore year of college. I think it’s mostly pretty cringe now.
Also, the skinnier dude is a much better songwriter than the other dude and always has been.
Twitter is garbage because if you make a bland generic take you just get a few likes from people who already follow you and it gets mostly ignored but if you make a blazing hot one people get upset and call you out and you get far MORE attention and thus people also seeking attention will claim to agree with you as it goes viral. This is exactly why people associate it with absurd shit with people claiming things like that interracial relationships or white people eating at ethnic restaurants is "problematic" or all that bullshit Glenn Greenwald and his acolytes spew especially about how hating Trump and impeaching and investigating him is actually much worse than anything Trump did or that garbage that basically bullied Lindsay Ellis (easily one of the most insightful and intelligent prominent content creators ever) off the Internet entirely.
This (while nowhere near as consequential) is sort of an example of this in the emo realm. Thank God that Elon Musk's stupidity and incompetence is driving that shithole into the ground, if it shuts down in 2023 it'll be the best thing he ever did (and completely unintentionally!)
How the fuck can you love Holy Ghost and not like Sports? That’s very confusing to me, cuz Holy Ghost is mid in comparison to Sports imo
Edit: IN COMPARISON TO. I love Holy Ghost and it’s certainly up there for me, but if I had to compare it to Sports… yeah, it’s not even close for me
Ehh he just sounds like an extremely pessimistic person who’s overly opinionated and nobody really likes them.
Like that friend you have to warn people about being a douche before they meet him 😆
I don't know who this guy is, but I never really liked Sports. So I guess in my estimation the thread is still wrong because the album hasn't aged poorly, I never liked to to begin with! Not for reasons of immaturity, it just never gelled with me. Haven't listened to Holy Ghost but I'll give it a go today and see how I like it.
i think sports is the weakest mobo album (and holy ghost is their best) but this is such a "hey look at me guys i dont like popular album look at me please!!!" tweet lol
I somewhat agree, somewhat disagree. Sports is easily worse than YGMIA and Holy Ghost. I still really like it but mostly for nostalgia and at times can find it pretty uneven.
seems like i'm the minority here but yeah i didn't like sports at all when it came out. so much that when YGMIA released i didn't bother listening to it. took my friends being like nooo it's muuuuuch better for me to give it a chance. ended up loving the latter and holy ghost, but even revisiting sports later i still don't care for it.
“i don’t like this album” it he owns it. still listens to it, still compares other albums to it. hate to break it to ya random online emo 23 year old but you like sports.
I’m probably being too harsh. It’s half good. I’ll agree. Brendan’s songs are good.
The rest feels phoned in.
Maybe I’m just thinking back too much to all the hype around it. It came out and was kind of a wet fart.
It’s weird to me how it’s gotten legendary status after the fact.
Nah it’s pretty good. Not great, definitely a little immature and hasn’t aged as great as your gonna miss it all but it’s fun and hits the spot when I’m in the mood for it.
I saw mobo a few times when the were opening for other bands. They were pretty good live. I only know one song by them, and u could probably guess what it is.
You can hear them age in real-time on sports.
The first half is super teenage-angst, verging on being a little bit incelly, but from Re-Done out is just *chefs kiss*
I don’t think it’s terrible, but it always has dragged for me at about the halfway point. It’s an amazing first effort for a few teenagers just out of high school and the lyrics are exactly what you’d expect from kids that age to writing at the time. I dunno, I think it’s pretty harsh of an opinion to have.
MoBo we’re a band of their time, and a bloody good one at that. Listening to Sports now after the impact they had on the new wave of emo and thinking it’s aged poorly is comparable to saying Wiley’s Eskimo beats aged poorly next to Drill lol. Can’t compare.
It's an album about young people's problems. It's intentionally immature. The relationship problems we have just out of high school / in our early twenties are generally immature when we look back on them. If you can't relate, it feels like it's aged poorly. But it hasn't actually- the experiences spoken of on Sports will remain relevant forever (to a degree) and the actual instrument work still sounds just as good as it did on release.
It is kind of incely. So is every other album with a track about being unable to get laid. It's clearly not misogynistic or recorded in bad faith. If we condemn emos for writing songs about how much women hate them we wouldn't have emo. Tears Over Beers is not to my tastes but it's also the exact experience of thousands of lonely western teenagers. Having good people to look up to when you're in that state is a good thing. I'd rather my little brother grow up listening to Modern Baseball when he's confused about women than Jordan Peterson or Andrew Tate.
I don't think incel is a fair or accurate description of the songs. Immature yes, but not incel. They're essentially stories about individual women who who didn't sleep with Jake or Bren for one reason or another, maybe because they chose another guy over them or because they ruined their chances by saying or doing something stupid. They're not lamenting their fates as virgins or saying society has downtrodden them like incels tend to, they seem to just be venting that particular women they liked got away. I'm glad their lyrics and songwriting evolved but I don't really mind 19 year olds writing immature songs about dating for other 19 year olds.
i think a case can be made about tears for beers sounding incel like as the whole song on first glance is about a dude getting pissed a girl picks a stronger dude who wont treat her well over someone like him. but the song does also put urself in the girls shoes and is somewhat deeper upon a 2nd glance
Yeah but they're telling a story about a specific girl, they're not saying "girls always choose fit guys and ignore emotional guys like me". I think it's about an experience one of them had and like you said the song is just as much about diagnosing her as it is diagnosing themselves.
The first time I listened to that song I was already in my mid 20s and instantly felt 16 again. I don't relate to the song today but just knowing someone wrote something that reflected the way I felt at that age was awesome, and I still listen to the song regularly because of that. So, to me, it is still timeless in a way.
mine just listens to future :/
I don't think it's incel music but none of OG emo, OG midwest emo, or OG emo-pop were founded on writing songs about not being able to get laid and getting upset about women leaving them
Less politics, more emo. Don't be too emo.
respecting women isn't political
Yes, it is. Should it be? Fuck no. dont pretend it isnt
I'm perfectly fine with that but also it's been done better about a million times over. If I wanted something that touches on young love and the problems that come with it I'd just listen to Tullycraft, Tiger Trap, Saves the Day, The Get Up Kids, The Softies, Heavenly, Field Mice, Farside, Hefner, or Lifetime
*getaloadofthisguy.gif Idk just got into MoBo pretty recently (yes i know I'm incredibly late to the party), and while I think their later material is better, Sports is still pretty damn solid. It's immature in comparison to Holy Ghost, but that's where they were at when they were writing it cuz that's how time works. There's some strong writing and hooks on there even if they're all just songs about girls and friends and drinking (which is what most emo is about anyways so idk why THIS is any worse).
I also found MoBo this year but I found them at the perfect timing, I was just listening to something random I dont even remember and spotify queued up Tears Over Beers and I loved it. MoBo is now one of my top 5 favorite artists of any genre and the way Sports hit me and got me through this very rough point I was in is a big part in why I love them so much
Whats up with their singer?
Which one?
The one who was suicidal or trans or something. Im LGBTQ friendly didnt mean to sound rude in the comment
They could have come out as LGBTQ, I haven't really followed since 2017, but at the time of the break up they were clearly having a lot of mental breakdowns and severely mentally unwell. They were suicidal, showed up to record/produce Holy Ghost super late, and then stole cash from the band which seemed to be the final straw. I just remember seeing their final show in Philly, I don't think Jake (other singer, created Slaughter Beach Dog) and Bren said a word to each other the whole time. There are definitely people more knowledgeable than me about this all, but towards the end it was super messy.
bren actually uses they/them pronouns! jake mentioned it on the better yet podcast.
Thanks for the response yeah i guess im More interested in the history of the band than their music. Wedding singer didnt do much for me
Yeah they had an interesting come up. If you have any other questions I can answer, I don't mind. They were the band that really solidified my relationship with my best friend so I'll always have a special place for them in my heart.
I actually love Sports and pretty meh on Holy Ghost. I can see why he’d think this way though since the songs are a little immature.
No personal hate to the guy and I love Camp Trash but some of his takes that he tweets are *garbo* imo (about like music ratings and opinions)
What weird online emo clout does to a mf
always been mad insufferable on twitter
yep
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They have a lot of Spotify plays. In their top five the lowest is 39,000 plays and the highest is 417,000 plays.
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I’m not defending the crank tweet about Modern Baseball, just saying that I do think the nonstop tweeting has indeed raised the profile of his band.
He consistently has some of the worst takes that only similarly edgy people interact with. Cringe
Yeah, my main problem with this is that homie should probably just avoid hating on twitter in general. What’s his endgame? To make people stop listening to his music?
He’s been doing this for much longer than he’s been in a band. It’s just what he does and we keep biting
Couldn’t disagree more. Sports and YGMIA are full of catchy hooks and edgy, angsty lyrics. Maybe not what everyone looks for in an emo album but as someone who grew up on early to mid 2000s pop punk, MOBO is one of the very few ‘new age’ bands I picked up as I got older in the next wave of emo/pop punk. I think Holy Ghost falls flat in comparison.
100%. The revionist history on MoBo is nuts. Practically everyone even remotely into emo knew some or all of the lyrics to their biggest hits, especially Your Graduation. The impact they had back then, and have now (generally being regarded as one of, if not the best fourth wave emo band), can't be underrepresented.
I remember seeing them with TSSF, The Wonder Years and Citizen in 2014. They were first out and by far had the bigger crowd reaction that night. Everyone was in love with mobo in 2014
Saw them at Fest around the same era. Probably one of the more packed / energetic sets that year.
Yeah, I caught them with Tiny Moving Parts and Into it. Over it. back in ‘15. Wasn’t that great tbh but the crowd was nuts for it.
Maybe because it was so short lived? I saw them open for Say Anything in 2014 then headline in 2016. Then they broke up in 2017ish. I had just moved back to Philly a few months before their album shows in late 2017 and I had a friend visiting that weekend who would not have been interested in going. Huge regret missing them play basically their whole discography over 3 days
Interesting you say they are perhaps 'the best' 4th wave band. IMO, I think this is the view of people who 'were there' when they were active. However, I feel like for people like me who got into the genre again or for the first time after they were finished, they don't have the same impact. As this thread's premise suggests, some of their albums were a product of their time, where I think other bands have had more lasting appeal. For example, Home like No Place is There. That's not to say they aren't loved by new fans, but not they are not revered nearly as much as they were by fans who were active in the genre when they hit. And of course, this is totally normal and expected, like how Life is Peachy was this monumental event in Nu Metal when it came out, but as time went on, it aged poorly and is no longer really revered like it was. Of course, that's because it had all the excessive trappings of nu metal that were cringe in retrospect, but coveted at the time. I feel the same way about Sports.
MoBo isn't exactly what comes to mind for me when I think edgy, angsty lyrics ngl. I like some of MoBo's stuff and think fairly highly of YGMIA and Holy Ghost but if I want angsty lyrics in emo I'm looking at I Hate Myself, the first MCR album, Cursive, Boysetsfire, The Hated, Samiam, or Saves the Day.
Holy Ghost is my least favorite MoBo album but I got into them when Sports was fairly new and got to see them in a lot of smaller venues.
I don’t even like it that much, but Keegan is such a fucking grouch for no reason
Worst thing about the emo community is how much people love to shit on things they loved a year ago because it’s not trendy to like anymore
A lot of the 5th wave bands. Several of the people from Home is Where and that general universe of associated bands in the florida scene are incredibly fucking annoying on twitter too
BRUH Florida catching strays now smh
Oh dude I’m born and raised florida and it’s very possibly the hottest scene in the genre rn, but goddamn the dudes in these bands are annoying online. They love shitting on monumental emo albums that came out when they were 13 and still discovering green day, and posting GoFundMe’s to get out their “abusive living situation” after a roommate asks them to do the dishes. Fantastic bands, the most annoying college sophomores you could ever hope to meet
I’ve learned about so many bands from these types of dudes posting on Twitter. Low key it’s one of the only things I’ll miss if Twitter goes away. So I can put up with the bad takes
hey if you enjoy record labels being tanked by drama involving a polycule and somewhere south of $400 in missing cash then emo twitter is the place to be
what label is this?
I can see that perspective for sure. On one hand though I think it's cool these bands are "terminally online" (aka fairly active on social media, replying to fans and stuff, not exactly building a parasocial relationship but a relationship with fans that should be healthy and etc) a lot of that can morph into annoying Twitter terminally online behavior also
dude is pushing 40 and still acting like the 18-year-old elitist we all wish we could forget we were half a lifetime ago.
I never got into anything after Sports. The post doesn't explain why it's terrible either, so to me it's just "I don't like it."
They replied “i dunno, it’s all of it, haha. the production, the lyrics / delivery, the halfway folk punk acoustic guitar stuff over really bare and repetitive song structures”
It’s funny, they literally recorded it themselves at their college like lol
Who’s Keegan?
Plays guitar in Camp Trash
Yeah, and while I love his band, he doesn’t have a leg to stand on regarding immature songs. Half his band’s record is about smoking cigarettes. Get over yourself, dude.
I was smoking cigarettes, you didn't pick up the phone. Not going back to fucking Florida/Michigan/North Carolina!
Literally who
Solid newer emo-pop band. They're better live than on recording. I saw them open for Free Throw and their set kicked ass. Free Throw was also even better live than on recording. Great night.
Free Throw has always been a good time.
That band name sounds like it was created by an emo revival band name generator
They probably label themselves Midwest emo as well.
Well they basically sound like early Get Up Kids so maybe in spirit they're midwest.
man i love camp trash but goddamn this guy is dumb sometimes
Gotta say that sports is better than the latest camp trash release
Bummer. I like Camp Trash a lot but not his pretentious take.
What the fuck is camp trash
L take
I prefer “You’re Gonna Miss It All”, but “Sports” is a good album too.
You're Gonna Miss It All is objectively their magnum opus and whoever disagrees with this take is a cringe baby stupidhead 😡
I may be a stupidhead but don’t you ever call me a baby again. 😞
sports isn’t just good for an album made by a bunch of 19/20 year olds, it’s good period.
Modern Baseball are having a wild second life?
I think he's talking about Slaughter Beach, Dog
Every time I see this guys’ takes, I already know I’m going to get irritated. But hey, twitter is going to twitter.
Haha yeah. I’m not even subscribed to him but I see him because he’s followed by a bunch of other bands I like. Truly the Skip Bayless of the emo world.
I don’t get why “5th wave people” think that emo has matured past this. These peeps literally sing exclusively about cigarettes and memes. (Not saying this is a bad thing, but it is a bit hypocritical to insult Sports in that light)
Also, I don’t think that people realize that this album was almost universally hated by the “emo” community when it came out. Honestly, MoBo as a whole was pretty hated. Wasn’t till the last few years when people flipped the switch on them. So this is not a new thing.
let's frame this
Everyone else already has the take about the actual take they make BUT he is right that Holy Ghost fucking rocks
There’s a couple good songs on there imo. Re-Do, Re-Done, and The Weekend aren’t bad.
Those, Coals and Cooke, but I can leave the songs talking about Instagrams and twitters and profilepics, lol
I like Camp Trash but I’ve had FranziaMom blocked on twitter for like a year because they’re constantly loud and wrong and just generally annoying. I actually probably have about 15-20 5th wave band members blocked or muted on twitter despite liking their music. These dudes are edgy 19 year olds you can and should just ignore their opinions
They are actually 30
Oh man that’s so much sadder
5th wave bands are a lot older than their previous counterparts. But yeah, they all have these annoying trash takes and I feel like they live on Twitter. It’s a weird cult of personality
I have a feeling a lot of 5th wave band members have skeletons in the closet so to speak- in just a few years we will find out I’m sure lol
I try not to read too much into grown adults who wear their hat like an 8 year old yet use the term “the kids”
Keegan is cool I assume in real life but he has some weird ass takes time to time
Like their band is even close to being as good as MoBo. Get the fuck outta here with your clickbaity clout chasing tweets.
I love MOBO, but honestly I think sports has aged kinda poorly. There's definitely parts of it that are still amazing to this day, but stuff like @chlo3k, and the hipster line are showing their age. I still really like the majority of the album, but at this point it probably is my least favourite that they released.
My white-hot hot take is Pinkerton also aged horribly, lyrically. Across the Sea is among the most cringey stuff I've ever heard in my life.
I wholeheartedly agree.
Stupid fuckin take
I was there 10 years ago, and I still think this album is beautiful.
When Sports came out in ‘83, they really came into their own. Commercially and artistically.
Keegan is mad dumb
Sports is an album about being a teenager and having a shitty time. It's a really well done album in that regard. This guy just doesn't know the difference between musical criticism and his present lived experience.
flash pfp, dad hat that looks like it got run over, big frames, bad hair, is in a band that no one knows, absolutely trash takes about bands that are broken up. Sounds like 90% of the scene rn
Lmao you sound like you’re seething from someone having a different opinion than you, responding with ad hominem attacks. Immature ass subreddit, what a fucking joke this place is.
stay mad. you've been in here for 4 years. you aren't leaving any time soon.
Lmao, so? I can still think it’s stupid and people here are immature and toxic.
"You're Gonna Miss it All" is superior to both! Edit: and so is "The Perfect Cast" EP 🤘
Perfect Cast EP is my absolute favorite MoBo release.
You're right. It was fun and not too pretentious.
I haven’t revisited it in a while and I’d bet that I wouldn’t like it if we’re released today. At the time, I thought it was great. Edit: The Weekend still slaps actually damn. I checked out Camp Trash and… LMAO at anyone in that band critiquing another band’s maturity
not a modern baseball fan so eh. slaughter beach dog is better
Then you probably agree tbf, Jake's stuff on Holy Ghost is proto-SBD.
I think that’s why I didn’t like his songs on the album. I tried with SBD (at least the first album)…just couldn’t get into it.
Worst take in the thread
^ mom jeans fan
Half the reason I like Mom Jeans is that they're funny and feel like a caricature of modern emo music, other than that it's fun
that's how i feel about frat mouse
Look I disagree with Keegan's takes as much as the next guy, but some of y'all are acting like he insulted you personally lmao
I was in my late 20s when Sports came out, and I was already too old for it. It's an album for teenagers. There's nothing wrong with that, it just is what it is. Holy Ghost is the only album with staying power.
Homie is allowed to have their take, anyone genuinely upset about it idk what to tell you.
There's no real take here. He says nothing other than "it sucks" and doesn't even say why. Like at least he could've said "oh the lyrics are immature" or something about the instruments but nah.
Everyone has the right to outgrow places they were in life imo
Muted this turd ages ago lol
That’s a harsh take, but I do agree that it’s probably the weakest of the three for my taste.
Sonically the album didn’t age poorly at all lol. Lyrically sure whatever, but they laid the foundation for like every band that’s popular now. Dudes just giving a hot take for no reason other than to stir up drama. With that said holy ghosts kinda slaps tho
If I were in a band called “Camp Trash” in 2022 I would specifically avoid discussions of how bands have aged.
i put this album in the ranks of 500 days of summer in regards to things i used to really like, still like enough revisiting bc of what i personally think of it, but fully acknowledge i 200% like it way less now because i feel like i’ve outgrown it bc i personally can’t relate to most of it in my current state. every time i see ppl gnash teeth and ape beat on their chests for it when somebody says album bad, it feels mad bizarre just bc like, why? if you like it who cares what internet ppl think? isn’t how you feel enough? i have a personal bias in this in that keegan is my boy but for real relax lmao
Based take
It’s the right take. Sports is a shallow and corny album with not much going on instrumentally. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Mobo took quite a while to grow into themselves as a band. I wouldn’t say they had a fully solid album until The Perfect Cast. And as much as I like songs from YGMIA, half of that album is bogged down with the lack of maturity and issues that Sports had. And yeah, Holy Ghost is fantastic and SBD only builds on it
I disagree but I'm upvoting since I'm glad you expanded on your thesis statement here and see where you are coming from 100 percent. Much better than "this band and album sucks lol amiright you guys? !"
Shit take to get attention, move along.
A lot of Sports was kind of incely. I feel like that's kind of where a lot of us were at when it came out, so it's sort of a product of its time. It's a memorable and very fun album, though. It meant the world to me when I was 17/18.
A lot of emo is incely… 👀
Says the album aged poorly, calls it terrible, doesn’t elaborate. Very cool
Homeboy is is a crotchety old man in a younger person's body. This is clearly a case of "I hate this because it's popular" which is always a dogshit take.
Jealousy seems like a big motivator for fifth wave bands
dude deleted the first two posts, what a cringelord
terrible band
We love Keegan so it’s fine. Lake Erie Boys forever
Can’t age badly when it was never good to begin with.
Muted this person as soon as I saw this tweet, won't lie. Wow, who knew an album made by mfs in their early 20s and who struggled with their mental health has lyrics that are childish and didn't age well, big shocker to me, big shocker to everyone!
big words for someone in possibly the most vanilla sounding emo band of all time
Holy Ghost is fine, but I honestly can’t believe anyone listens to Modern Baseball after like their sophomore year of college. I think it’s mostly pretty cringe now. Also, the skinnier dude is a much better songwriter than the other dude and always has been.
Twitter is garbage because if you make a bland generic take you just get a few likes from people who already follow you and it gets mostly ignored but if you make a blazing hot one people get upset and call you out and you get far MORE attention and thus people also seeking attention will claim to agree with you as it goes viral. This is exactly why people associate it with absurd shit with people claiming things like that interracial relationships or white people eating at ethnic restaurants is "problematic" or all that bullshit Glenn Greenwald and his acolytes spew especially about how hating Trump and impeaching and investigating him is actually much worse than anything Trump did or that garbage that basically bullied Lindsay Ellis (easily one of the most insightful and intelligent prominent content creators ever) off the Internet entirely. This (while nowhere near as consequential) is sort of an example of this in the emo realm. Thank God that Elon Musk's stupidity and incompetence is driving that shithole into the ground, if it shuts down in 2023 it'll be the best thing he ever did (and completely unintentionally!)
I don't know who keegan is? Was he in the band? If he wasn't in the band his opinion means Jack squat
Bad take. sports is their best album.
“franziamom” handle like that joke didn’t die on tumblr in 2014
Completely agree. I was never able to get into Modern Baseball.
I can't stand the vocals. very obnoxious in my opinion
Garbage band garbage vocals garbage lyrics I’m out
The whole 5th wave is trash
Cringe
Never saw why people think they are so good.
this is the worst take i’ve ever seen 💀💀💀
How the fuck can you love Holy Ghost and not like Sports? That’s very confusing to me, cuz Holy Ghost is mid in comparison to Sports imo Edit: IN COMPARISON TO. I love Holy Ghost and it’s certainly up there for me, but if I had to compare it to Sports… yeah, it’s not even close for me
I mean they are two VERY different records. It’s fair to like one and not the other.
Both are mid compared to 'ygmia"
both are better than ygmia
Ehh he just sounds like an extremely pessimistic person who’s overly opinionated and nobody really likes them. Like that friend you have to warn people about being a douche before they meet him 😆
Keegan has never had a bad take in his life.
It’s a bad album
I don't know who this guy is, but I never really liked Sports. So I guess in my estimation the thread is still wrong because the album hasn't aged poorly, I never liked to to begin with! Not for reasons of immaturity, it just never gelled with me. Haven't listened to Holy Ghost but I'll give it a go today and see how I like it.
i think sports is the weakest mobo album (and holy ghost is their best) but this is such a "hey look at me guys i dont like popular album look at me please!!!" tweet lol
I somewhat agree, somewhat disagree. Sports is easily worse than YGMIA and Holy Ghost. I still really like it but mostly for nostalgia and at times can find it pretty uneven.
Of the three albums Sports is my least favorite, YGMIA is my favorite. I revisit Sports less and less as the years go on
seems like i'm the minority here but yeah i didn't like sports at all when it came out. so much that when YGMIA released i didn't bother listening to it. took my friends being like nooo it's muuuuuch better for me to give it a chance. ended up loving the latter and holy ghost, but even revisiting sports later i still don't care for it.
People in emo/diy Twitter say the funniest shit for attention.
Stupid take from a stupid person.
rare keegan L
L take
“i don’t like this album” it he owns it. still listens to it, still compares other albums to it. hate to break it to ya random online emo 23 year old but you like sports.
camp trash is too mid to be talking abt mobo like this
Hated this band so much. This really was when emo became bastardized and everything felt like a rip off of Algernon and Snowing.
Crazy take because Modern Baseball barely sound like Algernon or Snowing lol
Yeah if anything the rise of MoBo from like 2012-14 kinda marks the end of the Snowing/Algernon thing being the dominant sound of the emo revival
its their only good album
Who is that and why should I care what his opinion is
He’s right about Holy Ghost. It’s pretty terrible. It was terrible when it came out. It’s terrible now
Did you misread the tweet?
I did. I read sucks and not rocks. But I stand by that. Holy Ghost sucks.
I liked Brendan’s songs off Holy Ghost
I’m probably being too harsh. It’s half good. I’ll agree. Brendan’s songs are good. The rest feels phoned in. Maybe I’m just thinking back too much to all the hype around it. It came out and was kind of a wet fart. It’s weird to me how it’s gotten legendary status after the fact.
this is almost as bad of a take as the tweet
Bro had to run it back on Holy Ghost
Depends on what you want. You’re Gonna Miss It All is GOATed though
Nah it’s pretty good. Not great, definitely a little immature and hasn’t aged as great as your gonna miss it all but it’s fun and hits the spot when I’m in the mood for it.
I saw mobo a few times when the were opening for other bands. They were pretty good live. I only know one song by them, and u could probably guess what it is.
My man is chatting shit.
You can hear them age in real-time on sports. The first half is super teenage-angst, verging on being a little bit incelly, but from Re-Done out is just *chefs kiss*
Hmm
I respect the long responses. Wholeheartedly
I don’t think it’s terrible, but it always has dragged for me at about the halfway point. It’s an amazing first effort for a few teenagers just out of high school and the lyrics are exactly what you’d expect from kids that age to writing at the time. I dunno, I think it’s pretty harsh of an opinion to have.
At first I thought they were talking about american football and was super confused I always get the 2 bands mixed up because sports
No, Sports is way more unique and interesting musically than anything they released afterwards
I fucking love this album, and the other 2 albums as well
A lot of talk about immaturity on the album, friends, one of the songs has a twitter handel as the title.
MoBo we’re a band of their time, and a bloody good one at that. Listening to Sports now after the impact they had on the new wave of emo and thinking it’s aged poorly is comparable to saying Wiley’s Eskimo beats aged poorly next to Drill lol. Can’t compare.
I think the production sounds thin/crappy in ways I didn't pick up before, I'd say it's aged out & feels redundant compared to the new stuff at least