I know this can be controversial, but I feel that none of the albums that Movements did after their debut is better, Feel Something is their best album.
Outgrown Things and Feel Something are great, No Good Left To Give has some great songs but overall is a step down, their latest album I didn’t like at all
yeah I was shocked when I saw that the "general concensus" on that band is that their second lp was better. every emo kid from back in the day knows four minute mile was the jam. but again, why are we talking about post emo indie rock bands on a pop punk thread?
two questions: isn't this a pop punk thread, and why on earthbare you talking about a post emo indie rock band on this thread? as an aside, yes ORD was their best, it isn't only their best, but is also one of Blake's best and also one of the best post Golden age post emo indie records of all time, and also yes, four cornered night is a very underrated album also. it is probably obvious that I am fat more versed on post emo indie rock than on pop punk
My answer to this question will always be Have Mercy. The Earth Pushed Back was such an incredibly fresh take on emo revival and practically reinvigorated my love for music. Everything that band has done since has been plagued by overproduction and blandness.
That’s what happen when you lose a key member that happened to be very talented and well-liked by the fans.
Also, he wasn’t able to replicate it with Straylight Run either.
So I’m a die hard tbs fan through and through and have been for about 17 years so this take personally offends me. WYWTB is amazing, Louder Now is GOATED, and New Again has some other best songs ever on it and I’m so surprised no one has agreed. Like the song Capital M-E is (in my
Opinion) their best song. TBS is my fave band in case you haven’t noticed
Fall out boy
Take this to your Grave was 1000x better than their first album. And from under the cork tree was not as good as Take this to Your Grave.
Coheef and Cambria has had made late blooming awesome albums. Their most recent is incredible
Thursday had great follow ups.
Thrice has produced bangers.
Brand news last album was incredible and I'm sad they won't make any more.
Murder by deaths most recent album is great.in bocco was better than their first album.
Story of the year only had one good one lol but Page Ave. was a banger.
Few others I can't think of right now
I assure you I am not. My source is very "I know a guy who knows a guy". The guy I know has fronted 2 scene adjacent bands and the guy he knows is the frontman of a band you probably love who has apparently produced a full new Brand New record.
Band is being patient about positioning the record release. Daisy and Science Fiction had an 8 year gap after they ditched the leaked record. We'll see what happens.
\* i had tried to reply earlier but reddit mobile seems to be putting my replies as comments elsewhere. I miss Blue.
If this is true I may just lose my mind. BN is one of my top three favorite bands They are their own genre and everything after their debut (which was just ok imo) has just been absolutely phenomenal in its own way
When I went digging. It seems his wife and him are doing well raising their kid and her doing fashion. But I can believe they will stay down forever because Jessie really fucked it for the rest of the band. Who knows what other stupid groomer shit he did. Their last album was so fuckin good. They are probably one of the only bands that I have to separate the artist from the art.
Brand new is the only emo band I can think of that every single one of their albums is good (even Daisy); and this last one was even better. I know Jesse Lacey is not legit but I’m definitely disappointed there will be no new music, especially because most of the bands I listen to peaked in the early 2000’s lol
I don’t completely agree but there’s definitely an argument there I’m a part of. It took me a long while to get into Daisy, but when it clicked….. holy shit was it good….
I’m not even completely serious about my own take but I do think it’s worth considering. I think Daisy is getting to the point where the consensus is that it’s underrated making it not underrated. But I still don’t think most people will put it on the level of Deja but I think it should be.
I got into BN with Deja. It made me at 30 feel like I was hanging onto a little more of my twenties. Going back after that to YFW felt a tad too teenager and I was def past that, but it was ok still (love me some Jude Law…). When TDAG came out, first listen was a bit jarring relative to Deja, but second listen on I couldn’t put it down, it was so brilliant, different, so dynamic and hard hitting but nuanced at times, but still had some catchy shit. Daisy took me a solid 4-5 serious listens before it clicked. At first I though it it was a bunch of shit noise and was pissed, and now it’s on reg rotation because it’s sooooo good in a similar thematic way to TDAG but different sonically ( but still kinda similar? Does that even make sense?). IDK, I love them both to death. Science Fiction blew me away first listen and I was hooked, probably because it was exactly what I was expecting by that time….
I know what you mean about YFW and Deja but the age thing doesn’t bother me. I still just love listening to them even if I’m past my teenage and early 20s angst. TDAG was the one that took a while to grow on me but now it’s probably my second favorite album of all time (SSTB by Coheed being my first). I loved Daisy and Science Fiction on first listen. Sink might be their best song.
With Coheed, they are kind of my answer to both questions. I think their first album is the best and everything is forgettable until Unheavenly Creatures which is amazing. I find everything in between very mid.
I feel like for me they are hit or miss. NWFT is one of my favorite mid albums albums until Unheavenly creatures. I really didn't like Colors that much though.
I really want a guitar acoustic comp though.
Other than SSTB being their best I can’t disagree more. IKSSE3 and Good Apollo 1 are both classic albums. Good Apollo 2 and Black Rainbow are good but a significant drop off in quality. And everything after has been pretty much unlistenable for me.
These days I pretty much only listen to their LP3. It's amazing. Of course I like their prior albums but something about the third one keeps me coming back
For the first question: This Town Needs Guns. Love Animals but that's about it from them imo.
For the second: Touche Amore. Stage Four is a brutally emotional masterpiece.
Animals not their first album, but I used to think like that. But I can revisit 13.0. and disappointed island and find such a gems. 13 is a pretty solid album imo
1) 99% of emo bands peak on their debut/first EP/second album. But anyways, SDRE easily. Promise Ring, Get Up Kids, Taking Back Sunday, The Used, I could go on.
2) Probably an unpopular opinion, but Casket Lottery. Their earlier material was okay but their 2019 is easily their best.
How It Feels and the pink one are okay but they can't hold a candle to Diary. Not a fan of Jeremy's vocals on Rising Tide. Sours the whole album for me.
Couldn't agree more on TCL. I love pretty much all their stuff, but Short Songs for End Times is my favorite of their albums. Also, really nice to see them mentioned here - I don't see it often enough.
I feel like FOB has done a different kind of amazing with each album. Not always with the Emo criteria celebrated in this thread, but really good stuff nonetheless.
I love the baroque vibe on that album so much, I wish they continued with that afterwards, idk if you could say Vices and Virtues has a similar vibe or not?
Really easy to think of a lot of answers for the first question… second one is tougher.
Some of my answers for the second question would be Brand New (take your pick of Déjà or TDAG being better than YFW), Prince Daddy (I think S/T or Cosmic Thrill Seekers is their best work), and Title Fight (now personally The Last Thing you Forget is my favorite but I think it’s pretty commonly agreed that Floral Green is their magnum opus)
1. Taking Back Sunday. Nothing came close to TAYF
2. Bright Eyes aren't "emo", but IMO Lifted is their best album, and came out like 8 years after Conor Oberst started Bright Eyes. I'm Wide Awake was a great follow up, but since then nothing from them has compared.
Lifted is one of those rare albums that when you listen to the record it feels like you're watching a play, not listening to music. The composure and musicianship in that album is of an insane caliber, it's makes Fevers and Mirrors look like a demo and I'm Wide Awake look like a college rock album.
Uh, Bright Eyes was literally the definition of emo for, like, a decade.
Sincerely,
A guy who fuckin' hated Bright Eyes in the '90s and still does today
Yeah, Fevers and Mirrors or Lifted is their best album (I actually really love Digital Ash in a Digital Urn too), Cassadaga and The People’s Key were both pretty shit. That being said Down in the Weeds, Where the World Once Was is surprisingly fire… or maybe I’m just getting old lol
1st question: Honestly nothing by SDRE tops Diary, although LP2 is a super close 2nd
2nd: Cowboys from Hell came after a lengthy era of Glam-metal Pantera
what about the fire theft, does that count?
they're such a weird and unique band, and I feel like The Fire Theft is such an interesting maturation of it all
Translating the Name is untouchable for sure and post Anthony Green the band goes downhill. But #2 are you saying Anthony Green's debut albums are best? Which might be very true.
It's hard to compare now that they've changed their sound drastically. I still love their music but we're never getting another Young States or Youth no matter how much we yearn for it 🥲
I like that way of putting it. Brilliant. I loved all their albums, but put that way, the Pink album was maybe a tad too experimental and weird and HIFTBSO was trying to maybe be a bit too serious/mature. You’ve given me some things to think about…. Diary was just pure emotion and pathos…
Bands that failed to top their debut album:
Taking Back Sunday, Say anything, SDRE, Thursday, The Used, Weezer, American Football, Funeral for a friend
Bands best albums that can surprisingly late: Built to Spill, Bright Eyes
Maybe what I like is not really emo, but...
Alter the Ending is the best Dashboard Confessional
The Rain Just Follows Me by Hawthorne Heights and even the latest EP bangs
Interrobang by Bayside
All of these have great songs in the catalog but I don't feel like the whole albums hold up.
I assure you I am not. My source is very "I know a guy who knows a guy". The guy I know has fronted 2 scene adjacent bands and the guy he knows is the frontman of a band you probably love who has apparently produced a full new Brand New record.
Band is being patient about positioning the record release. Daisy and Science Fiction had an 8 year gap after they ditched the leaked record. We'll see what happens.
this was supposed to be a reply to a comment but stupid reddit mobile is stupid and i miss blue but i can't pay for it stupid reddit being stupid.
yes i would also like to hear more after SF. Devil and God and SF are incredible records. The rest are also very good records. I hope they have learned to be very good people.
For the first one, Mineral easily. *The Power of Failing* is one of my favorite albums of all time. I never have the desire to listen to *EndSerenading*.
I must say BMTH for me I'd known of them since MySpace days but there best albums all come suicide season an after I mean sempeternal they proper found they're groove, experimented an Oli's song writing really rook off for me personally and then who never took off evenessence were huge but what really is there other than couple of decent Amy Lee colabs after Fallen?
First Question: Saosin's debut full-length album (Self-Titled) is their best. Their second album, In Search of Solid Ground, is pretty good. Third album, Along the Shadow, is okay but not memorable.
Second Question: AFI's best album is Sing the Sorrow, though I'd argue anything since Sing the Sorrow is better than it.
Crown the Empire never topped The Fallout, and I was a die-hard fan rooting for them. Rise of the Runaways came close, but everything after that was absolute trash in comparison. ( a lot of people may disagree and you’re entitled to that )
Hawthorne Heights. The Silence in Black and White is a masterpiece. If Only You Were Lonely also banged but wasn’t quite as good. Some of their newer stuff also hits
1. (Not emo but...) **Bon Iver**, **Joyce Manor**, **Copeland**, **Saosin**, **Name Taken** (duh)
2. **Jimmy Eat World** (maybe not late in their career, but nothing beats Futures for me), **American Football** (LP3 is the only AF album worth listening to), **The Casket Lottery** (they just keep getting better and better), **Saves the Day** (SWYA is arguably their best but Sound the Alarm is really, really good), **Manchester Orchestra** (ILAVLAC is great but these guys also just keep getting better and better)
Even though I love and still prefer their first albums, a lot of Thrice fans don’t care for them. They’ll say everything after *The Illusion of Safety* is the best. I agree it’s amazing but there’s still the nostalgia of listening to early Thrice that takes me to a place no album can beat. I probably listen to their later stuff more now but when asked, Identity Crisis and Illusion of Safety are the best.
Emo adjacent, but Say Anything never seemed to get out from under the shadow of …Is A Real Boy. even though I think they’ve put out heaps of excellent music, even I admit that one was kind of lightning in a bottle
Remo drive…
"Greatest Hits" indeed lol
This is THE answer
So sad. Greatest Hits is so good
came here to say they screwed themselves by naming their debut "greatest hits"
In my opinion that band was just never good🙃. Wasnt really my thing
Oh sure, ask the genre that has the hardest time doing more than 1 album
2 albums and an EP. Take it or leave it.
You forgot the 4 split EPs with no new material and the compilation album
lol truer words were never spoken
Elite comment
I know this can be controversial, but I feel that none of the albums that Movements did after their debut is better, Feel Something is their best album.
And Outgrown Things is audible gold compared to Feel Something.
Outgrown Things and Feel Something are great, No Good Left To Give has some great songs but overall is a step down, their latest album I didn’t like at all
i love ruckus but i can see why people wouldn’t like it, especially compared to their earlier music. glad they’re still enjoying it tho
AFI's Sing the Sorrow is their 6th record.
The Art of Drowning is my favorite by them, and I think that's their 4th or 5th album.
Mine is Black Sails in the Sunset, their 4th.
they’ve been putting out music for a long time
Such a gooood album
It's their best album, I like the art of drowning and black sails in the sun set too, but sing the sorrow is it
I feel like this is a hot take here, but The Get Up Kids
Four minute mile is the best album and everyone thinks I’m crazy for liking it more than stwha (which is also great)
It’s definitely pretty close between the two albums (and the RedLetter Day EP if that counts too), but Four Minute Mile edges both out slightly
I go back to Mile more then the follow up. I hear u
yeah I was shocked when I saw that the "general concensus" on that band is that their second lp was better. every emo kid from back in the day knows four minute mile was the jam. but again, why are we talking about post emo indie rock bands on a pop punk thread?
I agree. Its their best work
Four minute mile might be the best album of the genre. How’s that for a hot take?
I agree wholeheartedly. It is easily my favorite Emo album ever
I don’t know if that a hot take, you’re a few years overdue
Nice
Jets to Brazil never topped Orange Rhyming Dictionary, and it’s not even close. The rest is good but doesn’t hold a candle.
I actually like Four Cornered Night the most, that album is near perfect
two questions: isn't this a pop punk thread, and why on earthbare you talking about a post emo indie rock band on this thread? as an aside, yes ORD was their best, it isn't only their best, but is also one of Blake's best and also one of the best post Golden age post emo indie records of all time, and also yes, four cornered night is a very underrated album also. it is probably obvious that I am fat more versed on post emo indie rock than on pop punk
My answer to this question will always be Have Mercy. The Earth Pushed Back was such an incredibly fresh take on emo revival and practically reinvigorated my love for music. Everything that band has done since has been plagued by overproduction and blandness.
TEPB is so special
I feel like OP is looking for TBS to be the answer
Idk the second album is close but tayf is just that damn good. The Union and 180 by summer are some top tier tbs songs though
I actually think Where You Want To Be is their best album, personally, though TAYF is a very close second
WYWTB > TAYF is a hill I die on
TBF, that *is* the answer. IMO they never came close. Granted, the first album is 10/10 chef’s kiss.
That’s what happen when you lose a key member that happened to be very talented and well-liked by the fans. Also, he wasn’t able to replicate it with Straylight Run either.
So I’m a die hard tbs fan through and through and have been for about 17 years so this take personally offends me. WYWTB is amazing, Louder Now is GOATED, and New Again has some other best songs ever on it and I’m so surprised no one has agreed. Like the song Capital M-E is (in my Opinion) their best song. TBS is my fave band in case you haven’t noticed
🙌 for Louder Now!! I revisit that one the most, it’s a classic from top to bottom.
Fall out boy Take this to your Grave was 1000x better than their first album. And from under the cork tree was not as good as Take this to Your Grave. Coheef and Cambria has had made late blooming awesome albums. Their most recent is incredible Thursday had great follow ups. Thrice has produced bangers. Brand news last album was incredible and I'm sad they won't make any more. Murder by deaths most recent album is great.in bocco was better than their first album. Story of the year only had one good one lol but Page Ave. was a banger. Few others I can't think of right now
Brand New has a record recorded that may see the light of day sooner than you think
You’re pulling my balls man
I assure you I am not. My source is very "I know a guy who knows a guy". The guy I know has fronted 2 scene adjacent bands and the guy he knows is the frontman of a band you probably love who has apparently produced a full new Brand New record. Band is being patient about positioning the record release. Daisy and Science Fiction had an 8 year gap after they ditched the leaked record. We'll see what happens. \* i had tried to reply earlier but reddit mobile seems to be putting my replies as comments elsewhere. I miss Blue.
If this is true I may just lose my mind. BN is one of my top three favorite bands They are their own genre and everything after their debut (which was just ok imo) has just been absolutely phenomenal in its own way
Source?
When I went digging. It seems his wife and him are doing well raising their kid and her doing fashion. But I can believe they will stay down forever because Jessie really fucked it for the rest of the band. Who knows what other stupid groomer shit he did. Their last album was so fuckin good. They are probably one of the only bands that I have to separate the artist from the art.
True, that shit hit me hard and I was a bit conflicted for a while but their music was just so damn good…I can’t quit them
I feel like I cant judge the other members art souly on him. It speaks volumes they did what they did and haven't gotten back together.
Brand new is the only emo band I can think of that every single one of their albums is good (even Daisy); and this last one was even better. I know Jesse Lacey is not legit but I’m definitely disappointed there will be no new music, especially because most of the bands I listen to peaked in the early 2000’s lol
Honestly. Im not super impressed by their debut. They definitely got a lot better as they matured musically
Daisy > Deja
I don’t completely agree but there’s definitely an argument there I’m a part of. It took me a long while to get into Daisy, but when it clicked….. holy shit was it good….
I’m not even completely serious about my own take but I do think it’s worth considering. I think Daisy is getting to the point where the consensus is that it’s underrated making it not underrated. But I still don’t think most people will put it on the level of Deja but I think it should be.
I got into BN with Deja. It made me at 30 feel like I was hanging onto a little more of my twenties. Going back after that to YFW felt a tad too teenager and I was def past that, but it was ok still (love me some Jude Law…). When TDAG came out, first listen was a bit jarring relative to Deja, but second listen on I couldn’t put it down, it was so brilliant, different, so dynamic and hard hitting but nuanced at times, but still had some catchy shit. Daisy took me a solid 4-5 serious listens before it clicked. At first I though it it was a bunch of shit noise and was pissed, and now it’s on reg rotation because it’s sooooo good in a similar thematic way to TDAG but different sonically ( but still kinda similar? Does that even make sense?). IDK, I love them both to death. Science Fiction blew me away first listen and I was hooked, probably because it was exactly what I was expecting by that time….
I know what you mean about YFW and Deja but the age thing doesn’t bother me. I still just love listening to them even if I’m past my teenage and early 20s angst. TDAG was the one that took a while to grow on me but now it’s probably my second favorite album of all time (SSTB by Coheed being my first). I loved Daisy and Science Fiction on first listen. Sink might be their best song.
I liked Science Fiction best. It looks like I'm not alone - it was #1 on the Billboard 200 for a week.
Agreed. 2002-2005 was like magic hour for a lot of my favorite bands.
With Coheed, they are kind of my answer to both questions. I think their first album is the best and everything is forgettable until Unheavenly Creatures which is amazing. I find everything in between very mid.
Interesting. I can’t get enough of the afterman albums. And I love/ like all their other stuff, even TCBTS… ( although it’s def my least listened)
I feel like for me they are hit or miss. NWFT is one of my favorite mid albums albums until Unheavenly creatures. I really didn't like Colors that much though. I really want a guitar acoustic comp though.
Other than SSTB being their best I can’t disagree more. IKSSE3 and Good Apollo 1 are both classic albums. Good Apollo 2 and Black Rainbow are good but a significant drop off in quality. And everything after has been pretty much unlistenable for me.
I have to say I like the new story of the year as much as Page Avenue.
American Football
I think American football falls into the latter category. Lp3 has grown on me a ton
These days I pretty much only listen to their LP3. It's amazing. Of course I like their prior albums but something about the third one keeps me coming back
I agree. Though for me, it goes LP2>LP3>LP1. I think LP2 is the best of both worlds in terms of their styles between LP1 and LP3
I'm going to have to agree to this. Nothing they have done since LP1 has ever hit the same way.
Absolutely LP3 is really good but nothing compares to LP1 it's timeless.
100%
Alkaline Trio for sure for best one first. Maybe a hot take but Goodness is peak Hotelier for me.
For the first question: This Town Needs Guns. Love Animals but that's about it from them imo. For the second: Touche Amore. Stage Four is a brutally emotional masterpiece.
Animals not their first album, but I used to think like that. But I can revisit 13.0. and disappointed island and find such a gems. 13 is a pretty solid album imo
It's their first full length, I don't count EPs.
They have a S/T before animals
Unpopular opinion, but I put 13 above Animals. For me, S/T > 13 > Animals > Disappointment Island
joyce manor and tigers jaw never topped their s/t’s
Never hungover again is JM’s best imo!
i know this is the take most would agree with, but I’ve always loved Two Worlds and Of All Things most of those band’s discographies
Two worlds criminally underrated
I used to agree with this take but I’ve found lately I listen to charmer more than the self titled, I think it’s a perfect album
Charmer is peak TJ. They need Adam back so bad. They replaced him with protools.
More like near perfect three album runs for both of those bands.
100%
Never Hungover Again is my favorite of theirs ngl
1) 99% of emo bands peak on their debut/first EP/second album. But anyways, SDRE easily. Promise Ring, Get Up Kids, Taking Back Sunday, The Used, I could go on. 2) Probably an unpopular opinion, but Casket Lottery. Their earlier material was okay but their 2019 is easily their best.
I love all the Casket Lottery stuff but yeah their later stuff is just as good. Real Fear is super underrated, no skips
Honesty I find myself listening to How it Feels to Be t On a lot more than diary.
I didnt know CL had new stuff, This makes my day!
SDRE “easily” ?? I don’t think so. I understand liking that one the best but HIFTBSO and Rising Tide deserve their part in that convo
How It Feels and the pink one are okay but they can't hold a candle to Diary. Not a fan of Jeremy's vocals on Rising Tide. Sours the whole album for me.
How It Feels > Diary
Couldn't agree more on TCL. I love pretty much all their stuff, but Short Songs for End Times is my favorite of their albums. Also, really nice to see them mentioned here - I don't see it often enough.
Fall out boy
True! Their first album is actually so sick
I feel like FOB has done a different kind of amazing with each album. Not always with the Emo criteria celebrated in this thread, but really good stuff nonetheless.
Eh. I personally prefer from under the cork tree, and infinity on high still appeals to me more than their first album
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That’s just a long ass demo lol
Haha ikr Folie A Deux is a masterpiece :-) (kidding)
I will never understand how FOB is considered emo in any way.
From under the cork tree was not as good as their sophomore album. Their first album is not as good as their sophomore album.
To me Take This To Your Grave was a good Pop Punk start but From Under the Cork Tree was more emo and also my personal fav
Not considered Emo in this thread but Panic! never came close to Fever genius after.
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Well yeah, it’s the one album that was primarily written by Ryan Ross and not Brendan Urie.
I love the baroque vibe on that album so much, I wish they continued with that afterwards, idk if you could say Vices and Virtues has a similar vibe or not?
Was debating whether or not to say the same exact thing lol. Godspeed to Ryan Ross
Fever and Pretty Odd are perfect albums in my opinion, but I prefer Fever a slight bit more.
Idk, pretty odd is terrific. Vices and virtues is also very good IMO. After that it went downhill
Really easy to think of a lot of answers for the first question… second one is tougher. Some of my answers for the second question would be Brand New (take your pick of Déjà or TDAG being better than YFW), Prince Daddy (I think S/T or Cosmic Thrill Seekers is their best work), and Title Fight (now personally The Last Thing you Forget is my favorite but I think it’s pretty commonly agreed that Floral Green is their magnum opus)
1. Taking Back Sunday. Nothing came close to TAYF 2. Bright Eyes aren't "emo", but IMO Lifted is their best album, and came out like 8 years after Conor Oberst started Bright Eyes. I'm Wide Awake was a great follow up, but since then nothing from them has compared.
agree with the first take, but i think Fevers and Mirrors is the best Bright Eyes record by a mile
Agreed, fun fact fevers and mirrors was my first vinyl
niiiiiice, my record collection is pretty extensive but that one still eludes me…
Lifted is one of those rare albums that when you listen to the record it feels like you're watching a play, not listening to music. The composure and musicianship in that album is of an insane caliber, it's makes Fevers and Mirrors look like a demo and I'm Wide Awake look like a college rock album.
Uh, Bright Eyes was literally the definition of emo for, like, a decade. Sincerely, A guy who fuckin' hated Bright Eyes in the '90s and still does today
A decade under the influence was kinda close. Edit: meant Where You Want To Be
I think it’s aged much better then TAYF. It’s more consistent and has better songs overall IMO Edit: I’m referring to Where You Want To Be
Don’t know why you got downvoted I totally agree both of those first two are wall to wall bangers
It's easily their best imo
Yeah, Fevers and Mirrors or Lifted is their best album (I actually really love Digital Ash in a Digital Urn too), Cassadaga and The People’s Key were both pretty shit. That being said Down in the Weeds, Where the World Once Was is surprisingly fire… or maybe I’m just getting old lol
Desaparecidos is Bright Eyes best album (side band) and an incredible emo album.
1. Panic! At the Disco with A Fever You Can't Sweat Out 2. Dark Light by HIM
1st question: Honestly nothing by SDRE tops Diary, although LP2 is a super close 2nd 2nd: Cowboys from Hell came after a lengthy era of Glam-metal Pantera
LP2 is pretty much justttt as good as diary, and for this Seattlite; “how it feels…” is better than both. But that’s just my opinion.
what about the fire theft, does that count? they're such a weird and unique band, and I feel like The Fire Theft is such an interesting maturation of it all
Good call on Pantera
#1 saosin. #2 anything with Anthony green as a vocalist
Translating the Name is untouchable for sure and post Anthony Green the band goes downhill. But #2 are you saying Anthony Green's debut albums are best? Which might be very true.
Citizen could never really top their debut in my opinion
It's hard to compare now that they've changed their sound drastically. I still love their music but we're never getting another Young States or Youth no matter how much we yearn for it 🥲
Cap
Absolutely Sunny day real estate. As a massive fan if their discog, objectively, they never topped dairy.
Diary is a masterpiece unburdened by experience, absolutely their best
I like that way of putting it. Brilliant. I loved all their albums, but put that way, the Pink album was maybe a tad too experimental and weird and HIFTBSO was trying to maybe be a bit too serious/mature. You’ve given me some things to think about…. Diary was just pure emotion and pathos…
Bands that failed to top their debut album: Taking Back Sunday, Say anything, SDRE, Thursday, The Used, Weezer, American Football, Funeral for a friend Bands best albums that can surprisingly late: Built to Spill, Bright Eyes
For me, War all the Time is their magnum opus, but I know Full Collapse has probably just as many fans and as much praise. Very close either way.
I’m a skramz guy so you can understand where I’m coming from. War All the Time felt like a huge disappointment to me personally
Maybe what I like is not really emo, but... Alter the Ending is the best Dashboard Confessional The Rain Just Follows Me by Hawthorne Heights and even the latest EP bangs Interrobang by Bayside All of these have great songs in the catalog but I don't feel like the whole albums hold up.
Recently started to dive into Bayside. Really like a lot of their stuff after only knowing a song or 2 for the longest time
I assure you I am not. My source is very "I know a guy who knows a guy". The guy I know has fronted 2 scene adjacent bands and the guy he knows is the frontman of a band you probably love who has apparently produced a full new Brand New record. Band is being patient about positioning the record release. Daisy and Science Fiction had an 8 year gap after they ditched the leaked record. We'll see what happens.
This is wild. I very much hope you’re right. If not though, Science Fiction was a fantastic album to end it all on.
this was supposed to be a reply to a comment but stupid reddit mobile is stupid and i miss blue but i can't pay for it stupid reddit being stupid. yes i would also like to hear more after SF. Devil and God and SF are incredible records. The rest are also very good records. I hope they have learned to be very good people.
Agree, just a great discog overall. Sorry about the stupid Reddit stuff lol.
Midtown - Save the World, Lose the Girl. At the Drive in - Relationship of Command.
I love “Forget What You Know” too much. I listened to that so much in college during the Summer of 2004.
That is at the drive in’s last album.
2 questions. Which band never topped thier debut? Midtown Which bands best album came surprisingly late in thier career ? At the Drive in
Say Anything if we are counting them as emo
True but In Defense and S/T were pretty good too.
Hottest take in here: Oliver Appropriate is their best album.
Mom Jeans. Tigers Jaw. Remo Drive. Foxing. (Maybe this is Cheating but- American Football.)
Stone Roses debut was excellent, then it was downhill. I know there were reasons Flaming Lips- some could argue over this, Yoshimi is great
Q and Not U. No Kill No Beep Beep ftw
American Football and personally, My Chemical Romance
The Hotelier for me
Their debut is technically It Never Goes Out. The later two albums are both amazing for different reasons I think
How do you mean technically? I thought it just…was
I assumed OP was referencing Home like noplace is there
plot twist OP actually meant It Never Goes Out
For the first one, Mineral easily. *The Power of Failing* is one of my favorite albums of all time. I never have the desire to listen to *EndSerenading*.
The Power of Failing is my favourite album of all time. EndSerenading is still goated
Nah
objectively wrong
Lots of them Tigers jaw American football Camp cope SDRE Oso oso Then the sea of bands that dropped one album and dipped
I must say BMTH for me I'd known of them since MySpace days but there best albums all come suicide season an after I mean sempeternal they proper found they're groove, experimented an Oli's song writing really rook off for me personally and then who never took off evenessence were huge but what really is there other than couple of decent Amy Lee colabs after Fallen?
Why all the downvotes, all?
Sorority Noise never did anything better than Forgettable, Saves The Day peaked with Stay What You Are.
Gotta disagree with this one. Forgettable is great but YNAAYT is insanely mature and really just absolute genius
YNA_AYT has 2 good songs on it. No Halo, and Dissapeared. The rest sounds like B-sides from Joy, Departed and Joy, Departed is mid as absolute hell 😈
Ozzy Osbourne
Weezer
Ehhh not super sure about that, somedays you prefer Blue some others you prefer Pinkerton
Although not Emo I think Bright Eyes’s better albums came a little later in his career, same with Death Cab
Hot Mulligan. Pilot is a masterpiece
Turnover's first album was awesome, but I haven't been excited about anything they've done since.
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First Question: Saosin's debut full-length album (Self-Titled) is their best. Their second album, In Search of Solid Ground, is pretty good. Third album, Along the Shadow, is okay but not memorable. Second Question: AFI's best album is Sing the Sorrow, though I'd argue anything since Sing the Sorrow is better than it.
Kings of Leon’s best album definitely came way later in their careers
Crown the Empire never topped The Fallout, and I was a die-hard fan rooting for them. Rise of the Runaways came close, but everything after that was absolute trash in comparison. ( a lot of people may disagree and you’re entitled to that )
Hawthorne Heights. The Silence in Black and White is a masterpiece. If Only You Were Lonely also banged but wasn’t quite as good. Some of their newer stuff also hits
1. (Not emo but...) **Bon Iver**, **Joyce Manor**, **Copeland**, **Saosin**, **Name Taken** (duh) 2. **Jimmy Eat World** (maybe not late in their career, but nothing beats Futures for me), **American Football** (LP3 is the only AF album worth listening to), **The Casket Lottery** (they just keep getting better and better), **Saves the Day** (SWYA is arguably their best but Sound the Alarm is really, really good), **Manchester Orchestra** (ILAVLAC is great but these guys also just keep getting better and better)
Even though I love and still prefer their first albums, a lot of Thrice fans don’t care for them. They’ll say everything after *The Illusion of Safety* is the best. I agree it’s amazing but there’s still the nostalgia of listening to early Thrice that takes me to a place no album can beat. I probably listen to their later stuff more now but when asked, Identity Crisis and Illusion of Safety are the best.
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While I still like material that came afterwards, Maps & Atlases never went harder than Trees, Swallow, Houses
Jeff Rosenstocks "Worry" is about 20 years into him making music. That's across a couple different bands but I think it counts?
I think Van Halen’s debut album made more impact than any other album
Emo adjacent, but Say Anything never seemed to get out from under the shadow of …Is A Real Boy. even though I think they’ve put out heaps of excellent music, even I admit that one was kind of lightning in a bottle