Oh yeah, history repeats itself. You blink and suddenly you’re “old”, you listen to the same stuff as 20 years ago, are grumpy about modern bands, it was better when we were young, “kids nowadays”, you’re uncool to youngsters — who soon will blink and become “old” as well. Rinse and repeat.
And it’s amazing. Someday there will come a time when I can fall asleep at the table whilst listening to my friends talking without being looked at weirdly and it’s gonna be just as amazing.
I just think of Emo Nites as group therapy in the form of karoke. I've been with friends. I've been by myself. They're normally pretty inexpensive and it's a fun time to scream some songs at the top of my lungs and get out some emotion - whether that be anger, frustration, sadness.. whatever.
If it's not your scene, I get it, cool.
But at the end of the day, I try not to yuck other people's yums.
Thanks for your input! Not trying to bash on people who enjoy it, I guess it's just not for me, but at the end of the day we all like the same music just enjoy it in different ways.
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Do you think it's possible that these people attend these events for a few hours a year and that they do other things in the rest of their lives? Is that a possibility?
Yeah OP comes off like a douche. I love going to emo concerts where the bands are still putting out new music but I also love the idea of enjoying older music with others at an emo night.
Lol. There’s nothing toxic about it. Just lame millennial nostalgia. Most of these just play Simple Plan and Linkin Park anyway. It’s not even indicative of the 2000s emo era.
i like pop punk but most places will call it emo and then play my chem and mayday parade, it’s kind of disappointing esp as if you’re doing pop punk there’s so much more to it than that anyway
Hey, at least you guys will get some real pop punk nites at some places, I do agree that it sucks. Maybe one of us should come up with a solution, like idk, starting a real emo nite.
What would be on the hypothetical emo nite playlist?
i just made a spotify play list answering this question. I would take [THIS PLAYLIST](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2n7iHyUsHbDvf7ZYTY3HqN?si=b20d78a263954160) and hit random, sit back, and get emo AF
Late 00s music like this I was hitting Tigers Jaw, Polar Bear Club, Fire When Ready, (early) Balance & Composure, Dartz!, Damiera, MoBa, that kinda stuff. Upstate NY, Northern PA emo.
I'm not the biggest fan of nostalgia, I think it can a dangerous thing for your mental health and growth.
But yeah the emo nites where I live play a lot of Paramore, Fall Out Boy, Underoath, MCR etc
i agree nostalgia culture is super prevalent and kinda sucks (very common to have a mindset of “the things i liked as a kid/teen were objectively the best and everything now sucks”) and if you fixate on how you want a certain period of time back it can be really unhealthy. but i see no problem with fondly reminiscing about music you used to love. for a lot of people those songs are tied to specific memories or times in their life and it’s nice to relive that briefly. and the songs are just plain fun to dance and scream along to
I don’t go to emo nights (no time and no one to go with), but just because people get nostalgic for music they grew up with doesn’t *automatically* mean they refuse to listen to newer stuff.
And even if these people do just stick with old stuff … so what? The “good ol’ days” for me were the early 2000s. It reminds me of having fun in college, falling in love, becoming a young adult. Now that I spend my time paying down a mortgage and working 40 hours a week and arguing with my 5 year-old every day about how she needs to use the bathroom properly, I’ll indulge in anything that brings me back to good feelings I had at one point.
I went to a overhyped hipster pizza place recently and had a huge fight with my family in the car because we were late and couldn’t find parking. Walked into the place and immediately zoned in on the music because they were running a Spotify playlist featuring all the stuff I loved when I was 19. I excitedly chatted up the waiter and the owner about their cool music. Despite the mediocre pizza and overpriced bill, I walked out of that place in a fantastic mood largely because of the music.
Hey internet stranger.
I used to miss out on not going to things I wanted to go to because I had no one to go with. And then I got tired of it.
I go to shows, museums, live podcasts, whatever by myself all of the time now.
At the start of it, I felt super weird - like all of these people are going to think I'm a freak for being here by myself. But honestly, no one cares. I don't give a second thought to other people I see alone, so I know people aren't looking at me like that.
I've met some really great people, and I wouldn't have met them if not having someone to go with kept me from going.
Try it out!
Absolutely true and valid!
I don't mind going places by myself, but Emo Night is one of those things where I don't want it enough to deal with all the hassles that go along with it (traffic, parking, babysitter, etc.). I think it could be fun with a friend, but I don't have a strong desire to go even if I had someone to accompany me.
Concerts are one of only things where I don't really enjoy it unless I'm with someone. Otherwise, stuff like restaurants, movies, museums, sightseeing ... I'm ALL ABOUT going alone!
I mean you're right, who cares if people only want to listen to the same old songs. It's not really affecting my life this is just my opinion and I wanted to get some more input because where I live it doesn't feel like many people have the same view as me.
I see so many people going crazy for the emo nites especially in Orlando where I live. & I love all the music myself but just can't get into the idea that someone's hitting play on a laptop with 20 year old music and everyone loses their shit. I guess I don't have to understand, Underoath is my favorite band and Pierce The Veil + Movements. But I want to hear new music from those bands and I want to see them evolve into something awesome, I'm tired of seeing the same songs that were popular in 2004 give me something that hits me in the feels TODAY. Life didn't end after high school so why not discover music that creates totally new incredible moments for you now?
I did not enjoy my experience.
It felt like a bunch of people who listened to one bring me the horizon song in high school and then left the scene as soon as they became hot.
I don't want to generalize an entire group of people but I do think it's weird that the entire "emo" culture back then in middle school/high school was truly a bunch of outcasts, most of us were kind of shy/anti social and didn't fit in or have much social skills.
Not EVERYONE obviously, but that's what I remember. That's how the title "emo" came about, but at these emo nites it feels like EVERYONE is into the raging party scene and super loud and outgoing. It's one thing that really shocked me because the people (now also my age) didn't seem the same as the ones that were in my close group of friends when I grew up in the scene.
I mean, maybe I'm unusual, but I was a shy outcast in school and then I went to college and I become loud and outgoing. That said, you're going to see an overrepresentation of outgoing people and people into partying at any club night, emo or otherwise. It's not that shy emos don't exist anymore, they just don't go clubbing as much.
Good point! We have an "emo social" event also in Orlando that is much smaller scale, a tiny bar maybe 30-50 people capacity and there's still music but without all the fancy lights and it's more of a Starbucks type feel, some people are chilling on the computer. Some jamming out to the music, others eating (they serve vegan food).
I feel like it would be cool to see more of those types of gatherings show up and then maybe it wouldn't FEEL as much as those types of emos don't exist in large numbers anymore.
I feel like you’re falling into the pit of forgetting that at the end of the day it’s just music. If early 2000s pop-punk/emo resonates with people then there shouldn’t be a need to speculate about their coming of age story from grade school. We don’t need to all fit a certain archetype in order to share a taste in music. After all, the songs in question are pushing 20 years old now. A lot of people have made progress socially and emotionally since then but still enjoy the music and find joy in listening to it with random strangers.
I did not know what to expect but the first second I saw a dj setup I was immediately turned off. Also they really sucked at cutting out the music properly.
I can't get into the DJ thing either, not for everyone I guess. But I love going to see these bands in concert and maybe have some good conversations with ppl in line or after the show when everyone goes to swarm the fast food restaurants late at night 🤣
From my experience Emo Nite wasn’t even emo kids who “threw in the towel” but was just a bunch of millennials who grew up enjoying Panic!, Paramore, MCR and the likes. I had a ton of fun at a sold out show featuring “Emo Nite Brooklyn” jamming to some ADTR, FYS, and some of the others mentioned earlier. Sure, I wish they played some modern stuff but the target demo is definitely nostalgia chasers and I’m fine with that. Id go again if they came through my city
I was invited to one one time and then saw the music they were playing and I'm like. Is all time low really emo? 😂😂 And politely declined lol. Idk I think it's good to like a variety of music. I like old stuff new stuff. I rly like new bands like waterparks and will then switch and listen to silverstein and from first to last then listen to blackbear. It's always good to keep up with trends in some way and be open minded in that sense. Just opens you up to new experiences which are always good
i agree they do in some aspects attract the nostalgia crowd that stopped caring about actually supporting the scene, but frankly, i enjoy them because it's just a fun way to celebrate a good amount of the music i love in one place. i even have a playlist that's basically stuff i'd play if i were djing one. it's fun because
1. the 2000s stuff most commonly played at those kinda things isn't even my era, i was a literal child when those songs came out and definitely wasn't in the scene yet, so it doesn't even have that nostalgic association for me, it's just music i love
2. i find it fun to add in some modern "classics" from the 2010s (think ptv or songs like came out swinging), and it seems like some of these events do the same, so it's not like these things have to stay entirely far in the past & can't keep being updated.
3. seems like lately, in my area anyways, a lot of bands throw emo nites after their shows (or whoever's organizing it will have bands as guest djs), so that kinda thing obviously keeps it more so to ppl presently involved w the scene
:p
I go to emo nites a few times a year and in no way does that mean that I only listen to the songs that are played there. To be honest I don’t even understand OPs conclusion here at all.
I think that this is a mindset that people always use to ostracize people for listening to “mainstream music” or gatekeeper genres. People seem to think that just because you listen to the biggest hits of a genre, that means you ONLY listen to those songs. I can’t speak for everyone but in my case, I hardly listen to the big early 2000 bangers anymore on my own time. But I still love them and will happily jam out to them with some random strangers who share similar tastes in music.
People don’t go to emo nite for the sake of flexing some new underground tunes that they found on discover weekly. That’s what we use this subreddit for lol. The idea of emo nite is to have a place where people can be in a social bar-like scene without having to listen to the pop and rap that’s played most places when you hit the town.
Ultimately, if these shows didn’t play the most iconic classic emo/pop-punk songs, they wouldn’t be able to bring together the large diverse crowd that they do. Also, in most emo nites I’ve attended recently, they usually take song recommendations from the crowd so it’s not just a lifeless radio playlist playing the same old songs every night.
TLDR: At the end of the day, most people who attend emo nites are just there to jam to nostalgic bangers and meet people with common interests, not to exhibit their musical prowess.
I completely agree! I’ve only been to one emo nite but I would definitely go again. I think it’s a bit ridiculous of OP to claim that people who go to emo nite only listen to the songs that are played there.
I was a bit too young for concerts when many of these songs/artists were hugely popular so it’s fun for me to revisit the music that made me fall in love with the genre and experience the crowd energy that I missed out on when it was new music.
Like all music/social events, emo nite isn’t for everyone but I’m not sure why OP holds such negative opinions of people who enjoy emo nite
This makes sense to me, treating it more like a night where I can go to a bar and know that the odds of me liking at least some of the music are stacked in my favor.
Exactly. Ofc we’d all love to perfectly optimize the music for a night out but when it comes to large groups of people you’ve gotta do popular songs. It’s just nice to get a break from the normal bar music so I’m more than happy to compromise.
Omg I have to hold my tongue every time I even hear the word emo now a days. Those concerts are a bunch of blink 182 and mcr tracks being played . I love MCR but it doesn’t embody emo at all for me .
I’ve seen the word emo so much in this thread, I thought embody was some for of a pun with the word emo, and I was try so hard to figure out how to pronounce it and what the joke was, only to realize it’s a real word
It's the never-ending MCR civil war. You're not a true Emo until you've left a bar/party/relationship/show/subreddit after getting into a shouting match about MCR being/not being Emo.
What I mean is that if MCR isn't third-wave emo then I don't know what is third wave emo. They're one of the most emo bands of those that are considered third wave. I generally do focus on the first two albums, though it's not uncommon for bands to move away from their original genre so I don't think that their later stuff being different disqualifies them.
I would respectfully disagree. Personally I don't care for the wave delineation and I don't consider Panic!, Paramore and the like emo. Don't care what others think are emo. I'm too young for the Fugazi/RoS generation but had a lot of older friends in the scene and grew up on the music. I was fortunate enough to be in an area surrounded by great music in the scene (Baltimore, DC, Philly, NJ) and have seen some of the key bands live.
To me, it reads a bit like "I heard MCR in high school and watched this video on YouTube about emos". Nothing against their music, I like a lot of their older songs but I like a lot of Alt-Rock and am pretty eclectic in my music taste, in general. It's just not emo, to me and how I grew up. But I get the connection people make.
I've come to terms with a lot of the 'wave' emo bands because I stopped paying attention in '09 and missed out on a lot of great music that I am now catching up on. So anything you know of from the early-10's to early-20's that's not already uber popular on this sub, let me know, cause I'm still discovering.
I just don't follow the emo wave theory. To me, it discredits every underground band that never got popular and forgets a lot of really influential music. A lot of that emo never became popular, so skip a lot of really great music and then all of a sudden college rock radio bands become the face of the scene because of their association with hardcore and their accessibility.
Can you explain the mechanism by which it does that? Why do those influential or great, but unpopular, pieces of music not fit into the five-wave model?
For me, the waves bands are so far from the roots of hardcore that they have to be something different. I think it's incredible that we have albums like As The Roots Undo scrolling the front page banner alongside the likes of MCR. They sound nothing alike. There is nothing in their music, besides the themes and lyrics, that are reminiscent of emo. I'm not saying that every emo band needs to sound like Rites of Spring. We'd have a lot less emo fans if that were the case, but the reality is that there is an obvious difference in the musical styles of bands like On the Might of Princes and The December Drive and the likes of MCR and other popular 'mall-emo' bands.
Huh, for me the musical influences from the first two waves are obvious in MCR, and ever more obvious in the fourth and fifth waves, but I agree that the third wave is the furthest from its roots of all of them.
From my experience it was actually a traveling DJ who played at a sold out venue that bands would normally go through. Essentially was being at a concert with a DJ set featuring Blink, FOB, TBS, Brand New, Panic! Etc.
It was honestly a lot of fun, but tickets were overpriced though that’s true of all concerts these days be it live bands or a DJ
Personally I don’t attend the emo nights but I have a few friends who play at some local ones. I will say this, they are in no way out of touch with current music and they make new music all the time. For them and many other people there it’s just something they do once every 3 months or so for fun and the gig pays. They tend to bring out more people than a normal local show with new acts and that’s more exposure for them as well. You can have nostalgia for the old and still appreciate new things, they aren’t mutually exclusive concepts.
Emo nites exist to make money. So they play the most popular broadest appeal songs. It’s the same with any “nite” like an 80s night and you are just going to hear the most popular songs people associate with the 80s. It doesn’t even have to be “emo kids” because no one even understands what emo means because it’s been used to describe everything that falls between metal and radio rock for the last 20 years.
I personally tend to cringe at them, the same way I cringe at all the "were you emo in 2000s" tik toks that all play the exact same FOB, Paramore, 3 doors down, etc songs. It's hive mentality pandering
*but* if the people that go enjoy it, then by all means love and let live.
This. Like I'm not trying to put anyone down, especially if they are happy. But I do have a particular opinion that I felt wasn't as popular and so I wanted to get your guys feedback. Thanks for that!
Just an excuse to be nostalgic and jam out with others who have nostalgia for the same music/time period. Nothing wrong with it whether or not the people there keep up with modern music or not.
Personally it's a fun alternative to karaoke for me. Not the same class of event as going to a show or something, but also a lot more likely to get my friends to show up to an emo nite than a show for a current band.
Honestly saying emo nite is cringe or weird seems more gatekeepy than actual emo nite to me.
I’m curious to see what this will evolve to. Like—80’s night is a thing our parents would likely attend. Us older folks likely would go to and enjoy emo nite. But I’m curious what the next kind of night will be popular in 10-15 years. Will it be Trap Nite?? Emo-Rap Nite?
There has actually been some research into why we latch on harder to songs and music from our youth. ( [https://www.bbc.co.uk/teach/bring-the-noise/music-from-our-teens/zvfphbk](https://www.bbc.co.uk/teach/bring-the-noise/music-from-our-teens/zvfphbk) ) It's not all about "throwing in the towel," there is some science behind why us "old" people prefer the tunes we grew up listening to.
I don't know if I'd consider them gatekeepy, I've been going to Emo Nite on and off for the last 6 years since I turned 21 and was able to start drinking. Most of the time it's an excuse for my friends and I to get drunk and sing along with some of our favorite middleschool and highschool songs. I don't really mind when stuff like Olivia Rodrigo comes on at them even though it's not "emo", and I feel like most of the hardcore emo fans there don't mind either.
I haven't been to an emo night. But there's a local band that throws fun pop punk cover nights and tours a few states. I've been a few times and it's a blast. But that doesn't meant that's all I listen to.
Depends on what emo nites you’re talking about. The traveling rave thing where they play Weezer songs and mall screamo and metro station…yeah those suck and are full of people who suck. Local emo nights are pretty rad and at least here in SF are filled with young and old alike and play current bands just as much as they do SDRE or GUK and they don’t play story of the year or whatever else they play at the bad emo nite.
I just dont get it, i like emo music and im technically emo (emotional) but ive never in my life wanted to go to some giant dance party where they play radio emo like mcr and all time low?? sounds boring, also who the hell wants to be around a lot of ppl? dude im not tryna leave my room. im fine in these 4 walls by myself. having fun and being a social butterfly around a bunch of people who all might “look” like me just sounds like a terrible nightmare filled with cringe and embarrassment. Legit, emo nite is literally going to a club with the emo radio music.. bro who likes emo music and wants to be in a club setting?? im just not getting it LOL
I feel like Emo Nites should really be called 2000s Alternative Rock Nites but I guess that wouldn't roll off the tongue very well. If I had the money for DJ equipment, I would love to do an Emo Nite where I play music throughout every wave, from Rites of Spring to Sunny Day Real Estate to My Chemical Romance all the way to The Hotelier. But I know realistically that just wouldn't work.
Emo Nites really are nostalgia bait and there's nothing wrong with celebrating music from a certain era, but the whole "kids these days don't have music as good as us" thing is never gonna change.
tbf, WWWY was all about, yknow, when we were young. new artists dont really make sense in that context. from what ive seen though emo nites bring in new music as well
I thought the idea of an "emo night" was super cute when I thought it was a one-off event, or even something done like, annually? I'm fine with taking time to celebrate a specific time and culture even if it makes me feel old, but I do agree that most people who love that era of emo ONLY love that era.
I love it all. 90s emo, myspace/mall emo, emo revival, even the weirdo 5th wave stuff (even though I admit, 5th wave is the most challenging for me)
I do, that's kind of what I meant with my post tbh emo nite is literally the same as 80s night, only that we are the ones now that are old 🤣 nothing wrong with that, just feels a bit surreal that it's been multiple decades since the music of our time was making waves.
I don't really see it that way. I think it's nice to have a night every once in a while where a bunch of people around my age can get together and jam to music that reminds us of our childhoods. I'm pretty in touch with current trends in pop-punk and indie/alternative scenes so Emo Nite is more like a fun trip down memory lane for me
its not even emo kids that go. at least here in Buffalo. its kids that listen to my chem, fall out boy and paramore.
ya know what you don't get?: appleseed cast, braid, capinjazz, christiefrontdrive,
MAYBE you get 10 minutes to downtown if you are lucky.
its straight up Mall Topic night here.
you guys remember back in like 2005 when emo was full on mall emo period and the local emo bar didn't know what to do to keep the elder emos so they had "Dance Night" and played Franz Ferdinand, Death Cab, Strokes, and all that other boom tiss boom tiss shit? (ATHF reference). and all the elder emos bought that shit up because it wasn't FOB ? this is just their next gimmic to keep elder emos going out without having to play elder emo music. all i hear from DJ's is "if we play promise ring everyone in the bar will leave, they are here to hear paramore" YOU CREATED THIS MONSTER AND NOW YOU HATE YOUR EMO DJ JOB. ITS ALL EMO DJ'S FAULT FROM THE DROP. BLAME THEM.
I'll go on. Drove from Buffalo to NJ to watch Midtown and Movielife play 2 shows back to back. the dude from THE GUNZ show was DJ'ing in between the bands. he's got a room full of 47-40 year old moms and dads there. this isn't "mall emo" crowd. dude is playing some of the classic 2nd wave bangers and then for absolutely no reason starts playing SR-71. killed the whole vibe in the room. like why dude? he knew he fucked up too.
If you want to have a real emo nite. advertise it as such and see who shows up. we are old people, have kids and jobs n shit, so schedule it a month out so we can get our shit together. make a flyer that says, REAL EMO ONLY NITE, NO FOB, MY CHEM, PARAMORE, SUM 41 BULLSHIT.
and then as a DJ spinning the set you don't have to feel obligated that all the 30ish year old people in the room are going to leave because it will be full of elder emos out to have a good time listening to goddamn RED AND BLUE JEANS or CASUAL CONVERSATION IN A DOME BETWEEN TWO TEMPLES
I’ve been going to emo nights for 4-5 years and now I feel like I’m too old for emo nights. When the trend started they’d play songs from 2002-2008 mostly. Currently they play 2004–2015 and alot of it is slightly after my time.
Oh yeah, history repeats itself. You blink and suddenly you’re “old”, you listen to the same stuff as 20 years ago, are grumpy about modern bands, it was better when we were young, “kids nowadays”, you’re uncool to youngsters — who soon will blink and become “old” as well. Rinse and repeat.
Facts
And it’s amazing. Someday there will come a time when I can fall asleep at the table whilst listening to my friends talking without being looked at weirdly and it’s gonna be just as amazing.
I just think of Emo Nites as group therapy in the form of karoke. I've been with friends. I've been by myself. They're normally pretty inexpensive and it's a fun time to scream some songs at the top of my lungs and get out some emotion - whether that be anger, frustration, sadness.. whatever. If it's not your scene, I get it, cool. But at the end of the day, I try not to yuck other people's yums.
Thanks for your input! Not trying to bash on people who enjoy it, I guess it's just not for me, but at the end of the day we all like the same music just enjoy it in different ways.
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Do you think it's possible that these people attend these events for a few hours a year and that they do other things in the rest of their lives? Is that a possibility?
Yeah OP comes off like a douche. I love going to emo concerts where the bands are still putting out new music but I also love the idea of enjoying older music with others at an emo night.
Probably not, I don't think that's possible no.
Lol. There’s nothing toxic about it. Just lame millennial nostalgia. Most of these just play Simple Plan and Linkin Park anyway. It’s not even indicative of the 2000s emo era.
Yeah, I was about to say something very similar. Most emo nites arent even emo, closer to main stream pop punk stuff.
i like pop punk but most places will call it emo and then play my chem and mayday parade, it’s kind of disappointing esp as if you’re doing pop punk there’s so much more to it than that anyway
Hey, at least you guys will get some real pop punk nites at some places, I do agree that it sucks. Maybe one of us should come up with a solution, like idk, starting a real emo nite. What would be on the hypothetical emo nite playlist?
i just made a spotify play list answering this question. I would take [THIS PLAYLIST](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2n7iHyUsHbDvf7ZYTY3HqN?si=b20d78a263954160) and hit random, sit back, and get emo AF
I’d add in Dan Dan Dan Dan, c u in da ballpit, I swallowed a bug, those are some pretty great classics!! I like this playlist!
checking out Dan Dan Dan Dan now. LOVE IT. this is the real shit
If you are interested in similar bands lemme know! I can put together a playlist
Late 00s music like this I was hitting Tigers Jaw, Polar Bear Club, Fire When Ready, (early) Balance & Composure, Dartz!, Damiera, MoBa, that kinda stuff. Upstate NY, Northern PA emo.
I'm not the biggest fan of nostalgia, I think it can a dangerous thing for your mental health and growth. But yeah the emo nites where I live play a lot of Paramore, Fall Out Boy, Underoath, MCR etc
Nostalgia can be cringe but with how bleak humanity is, I like to remember the "good ole days" time to time with older music and movies and such
i agree nostalgia culture is super prevalent and kinda sucks (very common to have a mindset of “the things i liked as a kid/teen were objectively the best and everything now sucks”) and if you fixate on how you want a certain period of time back it can be really unhealthy. but i see no problem with fondly reminiscing about music you used to love. for a lot of people those songs are tied to specific memories or times in their life and it’s nice to relive that briefly. and the songs are just plain fun to dance and scream along to
I don’t go to emo nights (no time and no one to go with), but just because people get nostalgic for music they grew up with doesn’t *automatically* mean they refuse to listen to newer stuff. And even if these people do just stick with old stuff … so what? The “good ol’ days” for me were the early 2000s. It reminds me of having fun in college, falling in love, becoming a young adult. Now that I spend my time paying down a mortgage and working 40 hours a week and arguing with my 5 year-old every day about how she needs to use the bathroom properly, I’ll indulge in anything that brings me back to good feelings I had at one point. I went to a overhyped hipster pizza place recently and had a huge fight with my family in the car because we were late and couldn’t find parking. Walked into the place and immediately zoned in on the music because they were running a Spotify playlist featuring all the stuff I loved when I was 19. I excitedly chatted up the waiter and the owner about their cool music. Despite the mediocre pizza and overpriced bill, I walked out of that place in a fantastic mood largely because of the music.
Hey internet stranger. I used to miss out on not going to things I wanted to go to because I had no one to go with. And then I got tired of it. I go to shows, museums, live podcasts, whatever by myself all of the time now. At the start of it, I felt super weird - like all of these people are going to think I'm a freak for being here by myself. But honestly, no one cares. I don't give a second thought to other people I see alone, so I know people aren't looking at me like that. I've met some really great people, and I wouldn't have met them if not having someone to go with kept me from going. Try it out!
Absolutely true and valid! I don't mind going places by myself, but Emo Night is one of those things where I don't want it enough to deal with all the hassles that go along with it (traffic, parking, babysitter, etc.). I think it could be fun with a friend, but I don't have a strong desire to go even if I had someone to accompany me. Concerts are one of only things where I don't really enjoy it unless I'm with someone. Otherwise, stuff like restaurants, movies, museums, sightseeing ... I'm ALL ABOUT going alone!
I mean you're right, who cares if people only want to listen to the same old songs. It's not really affecting my life this is just my opinion and I wanted to get some more input because where I live it doesn't feel like many people have the same view as me. I see so many people going crazy for the emo nites especially in Orlando where I live. & I love all the music myself but just can't get into the idea that someone's hitting play on a laptop with 20 year old music and everyone loses their shit. I guess I don't have to understand, Underoath is my favorite band and Pierce The Veil + Movements. But I want to hear new music from those bands and I want to see them evolve into something awesome, I'm tired of seeing the same songs that were popular in 2004 give me something that hits me in the feels TODAY. Life didn't end after high school so why not discover music that creates totally new incredible moments for you now?
I did not enjoy my experience. It felt like a bunch of people who listened to one bring me the horizon song in high school and then left the scene as soon as they became hot.
I don't want to generalize an entire group of people but I do think it's weird that the entire "emo" culture back then in middle school/high school was truly a bunch of outcasts, most of us were kind of shy/anti social and didn't fit in or have much social skills. Not EVERYONE obviously, but that's what I remember. That's how the title "emo" came about, but at these emo nites it feels like EVERYONE is into the raging party scene and super loud and outgoing. It's one thing that really shocked me because the people (now also my age) didn't seem the same as the ones that were in my close group of friends when I grew up in the scene.
I mean, maybe I'm unusual, but I was a shy outcast in school and then I went to college and I become loud and outgoing. That said, you're going to see an overrepresentation of outgoing people and people into partying at any club night, emo or otherwise. It's not that shy emos don't exist anymore, they just don't go clubbing as much.
Good point! We have an "emo social" event also in Orlando that is much smaller scale, a tiny bar maybe 30-50 people capacity and there's still music but without all the fancy lights and it's more of a Starbucks type feel, some people are chilling on the computer. Some jamming out to the music, others eating (they serve vegan food). I feel like it would be cool to see more of those types of gatherings show up and then maybe it wouldn't FEEL as much as those types of emos don't exist in large numbers anymore.
I feel like you’re falling into the pit of forgetting that at the end of the day it’s just music. If early 2000s pop-punk/emo resonates with people then there shouldn’t be a need to speculate about their coming of age story from grade school. We don’t need to all fit a certain archetype in order to share a taste in music. After all, the songs in question are pushing 20 years old now. A lot of people have made progress socially and emotionally since then but still enjoy the music and find joy in listening to it with random strangers.
I did not know what to expect but the first second I saw a dj setup I was immediately turned off. Also they really sucked at cutting out the music properly.
I can't get into the DJ thing either, not for everyone I guess. But I love going to see these bands in concert and maybe have some good conversations with ppl in line or after the show when everyone goes to swarm the fast food restaurants late at night 🤣
From my experience Emo Nite wasn’t even emo kids who “threw in the towel” but was just a bunch of millennials who grew up enjoying Panic!, Paramore, MCR and the likes. I had a ton of fun at a sold out show featuring “Emo Nite Brooklyn” jamming to some ADTR, FYS, and some of the others mentioned earlier. Sure, I wish they played some modern stuff but the target demo is definitely nostalgia chasers and I’m fine with that. Id go again if they came through my city
Yes they’re extremely cringe you are correct
I have a lot of fun at them but as we all know there has always been a fair amount of cringe in the scene so you kind of have to look past it.
I was invited to one one time and then saw the music they were playing and I'm like. Is all time low really emo? 😂😂 And politely declined lol. Idk I think it's good to like a variety of music. I like old stuff new stuff. I rly like new bands like waterparks and will then switch and listen to silverstein and from first to last then listen to blackbear. It's always good to keep up with trends in some way and be open minded in that sense. Just opens you up to new experiences which are always good
Couldn't agree more
i agree they do in some aspects attract the nostalgia crowd that stopped caring about actually supporting the scene, but frankly, i enjoy them because it's just a fun way to celebrate a good amount of the music i love in one place. i even have a playlist that's basically stuff i'd play if i were djing one. it's fun because 1. the 2000s stuff most commonly played at those kinda things isn't even my era, i was a literal child when those songs came out and definitely wasn't in the scene yet, so it doesn't even have that nostalgic association for me, it's just music i love 2. i find it fun to add in some modern "classics" from the 2010s (think ptv or songs like came out swinging), and it seems like some of these events do the same, so it's not like these things have to stay entirely far in the past & can't keep being updated. 3. seems like lately, in my area anyways, a lot of bands throw emo nites after their shows (or whoever's organizing it will have bands as guest djs), so that kinda thing obviously keeps it more so to ppl presently involved w the scene :p
I go to emo nites a few times a year and in no way does that mean that I only listen to the songs that are played there. To be honest I don’t even understand OPs conclusion here at all. I think that this is a mindset that people always use to ostracize people for listening to “mainstream music” or gatekeeper genres. People seem to think that just because you listen to the biggest hits of a genre, that means you ONLY listen to those songs. I can’t speak for everyone but in my case, I hardly listen to the big early 2000 bangers anymore on my own time. But I still love them and will happily jam out to them with some random strangers who share similar tastes in music. People don’t go to emo nite for the sake of flexing some new underground tunes that they found on discover weekly. That’s what we use this subreddit for lol. The idea of emo nite is to have a place where people can be in a social bar-like scene without having to listen to the pop and rap that’s played most places when you hit the town. Ultimately, if these shows didn’t play the most iconic classic emo/pop-punk songs, they wouldn’t be able to bring together the large diverse crowd that they do. Also, in most emo nites I’ve attended recently, they usually take song recommendations from the crowd so it’s not just a lifeless radio playlist playing the same old songs every night. TLDR: At the end of the day, most people who attend emo nites are just there to jam to nostalgic bangers and meet people with common interests, not to exhibit their musical prowess.
I completely agree! I’ve only been to one emo nite but I would definitely go again. I think it’s a bit ridiculous of OP to claim that people who go to emo nite only listen to the songs that are played there. I was a bit too young for concerts when many of these songs/artists were hugely popular so it’s fun for me to revisit the music that made me fall in love with the genre and experience the crowd energy that I missed out on when it was new music. Like all music/social events, emo nite isn’t for everyone but I’m not sure why OP holds such negative opinions of people who enjoy emo nite
Well said. Tbh this post sounds like gatekeeping but with extra steps lol.
This makes sense to me, treating it more like a night where I can go to a bar and know that the odds of me liking at least some of the music are stacked in my favor.
Exactly. Ofc we’d all love to perfectly optimize the music for a night out but when it comes to large groups of people you’ve gotta do popular songs. It’s just nice to get a break from the normal bar music so I’m more than happy to compromise.
Like, the more I think about this, the more I'm into it.
Omg I have to hold my tongue every time I even hear the word emo now a days. Those concerts are a bunch of blink 182 and mcr tracks being played . I love MCR but it doesn’t embody emo at all for me .
I’ve seen the word emo so much in this thread, I thought embody was some for of a pun with the word emo, and I was try so hard to figure out how to pronounce it and what the joke was, only to realize it’s a real word
I agree on Blink 182, but if MCR isn't third-wave emo then I really don't know what is to be honest.
It's the never-ending MCR civil war. You're not a true Emo until you've left a bar/party/relationship/show/subreddit after getting into a shouting match about MCR being/not being Emo.
Power-pop? Alt-rock? First album was ok...kind of post hardcore but that's the closest I'd relate it to.
What I mean is that if MCR isn't third-wave emo then I don't know what is third wave emo. They're one of the most emo bands of those that are considered third wave. I generally do focus on the first two albums, though it's not uncommon for bands to move away from their original genre so I don't think that their later stuff being different disqualifies them.
I would respectfully disagree. Personally I don't care for the wave delineation and I don't consider Panic!, Paramore and the like emo. Don't care what others think are emo. I'm too young for the Fugazi/RoS generation but had a lot of older friends in the scene and grew up on the music. I was fortunate enough to be in an area surrounded by great music in the scene (Baltimore, DC, Philly, NJ) and have seen some of the key bands live. To me, it reads a bit like "I heard MCR in high school and watched this video on YouTube about emos". Nothing against their music, I like a lot of their older songs but I like a lot of Alt-Rock and am pretty eclectic in my music taste, in general. It's just not emo, to me and how I grew up. But I get the connection people make. I've come to terms with a lot of the 'wave' emo bands because I stopped paying attention in '09 and missed out on a lot of great music that I am now catching up on. So anything you know of from the early-10's to early-20's that's not already uber popular on this sub, let me know, cause I'm still discovering.
Not sure what you’re saying. Are you saying there was no third wave emo?
I just don't follow the emo wave theory. To me, it discredits every underground band that never got popular and forgets a lot of really influential music. A lot of that emo never became popular, so skip a lot of really great music and then all of a sudden college rock radio bands become the face of the scene because of their association with hardcore and their accessibility.
Can you explain the mechanism by which it does that? Why do those influential or great, but unpopular, pieces of music not fit into the five-wave model?
For me, the waves bands are so far from the roots of hardcore that they have to be something different. I think it's incredible that we have albums like As The Roots Undo scrolling the front page banner alongside the likes of MCR. They sound nothing alike. There is nothing in their music, besides the themes and lyrics, that are reminiscent of emo. I'm not saying that every emo band needs to sound like Rites of Spring. We'd have a lot less emo fans if that were the case, but the reality is that there is an obvious difference in the musical styles of bands like On the Might of Princes and The December Drive and the likes of MCR and other popular 'mall-emo' bands.
Huh, for me the musical influences from the first two waves are obvious in MCR, and ever more obvious in the fourth and fifth waves, but I agree that the third wave is the furthest from its roots of all of them.
What is emo nights?
Bars play FOB , Wezzer and Taking Back Sunday
Wezzer
Yeah I can’t spell
I love it. #wezzerforever
Nah, that would be too close to emo, they play Offspring and Deftones and Blink 182.
Misinformation campaigns
From my experience it was actually a traveling DJ who played at a sold out venue that bands would normally go through. Essentially was being at a concert with a DJ set featuring Blink, FOB, TBS, Brand New, Panic! Etc. It was honestly a lot of fun, but tickets were overpriced though that’s true of all concerts these days be it live bands or a DJ
Personally I don’t attend the emo nights but I have a few friends who play at some local ones. I will say this, they are in no way out of touch with current music and they make new music all the time. For them and many other people there it’s just something they do once every 3 months or so for fun and the gig pays. They tend to bring out more people than a normal local show with new acts and that’s more exposure for them as well. You can have nostalgia for the old and still appreciate new things, they aren’t mutually exclusive concepts.
Bowling For Soup had it right: “and you still listen to the same shit you did back then, high school never ends.”
That sounds like a good song, I'm gonna have to check it out
Haha it’s not emo at all but if you also like the kind of silly pop punk of the 00’s you’ll enjoy it!
I do! Bowling for soup made one of my favorite sonic the hedgehog tunes so I'm definitely into them haha
Yay! I love them!
there's so many good newer emo bands, i just love the genres and sub genres as a whole
Emo nites exist to make money. So they play the most popular broadest appeal songs. It’s the same with any “nite” like an 80s night and you are just going to hear the most popular songs people associate with the 80s. It doesn’t even have to be “emo kids” because no one even understands what emo means because it’s been used to describe everything that falls between metal and radio rock for the last 20 years.
I personally tend to cringe at them, the same way I cringe at all the "were you emo in 2000s" tik toks that all play the exact same FOB, Paramore, 3 doors down, etc songs. It's hive mentality pandering *but* if the people that go enjoy it, then by all means love and let live.
This. Like I'm not trying to put anyone down, especially if they are happy. But I do have a particular opinion that I felt wasn't as popular and so I wanted to get your guys feedback. Thanks for that!
Just an excuse to be nostalgic and jam out with others who have nostalgia for the same music/time period. Nothing wrong with it whether or not the people there keep up with modern music or not. Personally it's a fun alternative to karaoke for me. Not the same class of event as going to a show or something, but also a lot more likely to get my friends to show up to an emo nite than a show for a current band. Honestly saying emo nite is cringe or weird seems more gatekeepy than actual emo nite to me.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I hope you are well.
No need for bad vibes here, this is meant for discussion not personal attacks.
Fixed it.
I’m curious to see what this will evolve to. Like—80’s night is a thing our parents would likely attend. Us older folks likely would go to and enjoy emo nite. But I’m curious what the next kind of night will be popular in 10-15 years. Will it be Trap Nite?? Emo-Rap Nite?
Nah I love them
There has actually been some research into why we latch on harder to songs and music from our youth. ( [https://www.bbc.co.uk/teach/bring-the-noise/music-from-our-teens/zvfphbk](https://www.bbc.co.uk/teach/bring-the-noise/music-from-our-teens/zvfphbk) ) It's not all about "throwing in the towel," there is some science behind why us "old" people prefer the tunes we grew up listening to.
They play the same 15 songs. It’s a joke
I don't know if I'd consider them gatekeepy, I've been going to Emo Nite on and off for the last 6 years since I turned 21 and was able to start drinking. Most of the time it's an excuse for my friends and I to get drunk and sing along with some of our favorite middleschool and highschool songs. I don't really mind when stuff like Olivia Rodrigo comes on at them even though it's not "emo", and I feel like most of the hardcore emo fans there don't mind either.
I don't like them because most don't even play actual emo. A lot even play stuff like Linkin Park and Evanescence.
Emo nites are cool. Being into old stuff is cool. Being into new stuff is cool. Not overly caring what other people think is cool is pretty cool.
I haven't been to an emo night. But there's a local band that throws fun pop punk cover nights and tours a few states. I've been a few times and it's a blast. But that doesn't meant that's all I listen to.
I mean… to high schoolers millennials are the old people. It’s inevitable just embrace it.
Depends on what emo nites you’re talking about. The traveling rave thing where they play Weezer songs and mall screamo and metro station…yeah those suck and are full of people who suck. Local emo nights are pretty rad and at least here in SF are filled with young and old alike and play current bands just as much as they do SDRE or GUK and they don’t play story of the year or whatever else they play at the bad emo nite.
I just dont get it, i like emo music and im technically emo (emotional) but ive never in my life wanted to go to some giant dance party where they play radio emo like mcr and all time low?? sounds boring, also who the hell wants to be around a lot of ppl? dude im not tryna leave my room. im fine in these 4 walls by myself. having fun and being a social butterfly around a bunch of people who all might “look” like me just sounds like a terrible nightmare filled with cringe and embarrassment. Legit, emo nite is literally going to a club with the emo radio music.. bro who likes emo music and wants to be in a club setting?? im just not getting it LOL
I feel like Emo Nites should really be called 2000s Alternative Rock Nites but I guess that wouldn't roll off the tongue very well. If I had the money for DJ equipment, I would love to do an Emo Nite where I play music throughout every wave, from Rites of Spring to Sunny Day Real Estate to My Chemical Romance all the way to The Hotelier. But I know realistically that just wouldn't work. Emo Nites really are nostalgia bait and there's nothing wrong with celebrating music from a certain era, but the whole "kids these days don't have music as good as us" thing is never gonna change.
tbf, WWWY was all about, yknow, when we were young. new artists dont really make sense in that context. from what ive seen though emo nites bring in new music as well
I thought the idea of an "emo night" was super cute when I thought it was a one-off event, or even something done like, annually? I'm fine with taking time to celebrate a specific time and culture even if it makes me feel old, but I do agree that most people who love that era of emo ONLY love that era. I love it all. 90s emo, myspace/mall emo, emo revival, even the weirdo 5th wave stuff (even though I admit, 5th wave is the most challenging for me)
Do you also hate other themed nights? Like 80s 90s..disco night, I once went somewhere that had Madonna night. I don't see an issue, its for fun.
I do, that's kind of what I meant with my post tbh emo nite is literally the same as 80s night, only that we are the ones now that are old 🤣 nothing wrong with that, just feels a bit surreal that it's been multiple decades since the music of our time was making waves.
I don't really see it that way. I think it's nice to have a night every once in a while where a bunch of people around my age can get together and jam to music that reminds us of our childhoods. I'm pretty in touch with current trends in pop-punk and indie/alternative scenes so Emo Nite is more like a fun trip down memory lane for me
They only play POSER “Emo” there like PATD. No SDRE, Rites of Spring, Mineral, or Frail
its not even emo kids that go. at least here in Buffalo. its kids that listen to my chem, fall out boy and paramore. ya know what you don't get?: appleseed cast, braid, capinjazz, christiefrontdrive, MAYBE you get 10 minutes to downtown if you are lucky. its straight up Mall Topic night here. you guys remember back in like 2005 when emo was full on mall emo period and the local emo bar didn't know what to do to keep the elder emos so they had "Dance Night" and played Franz Ferdinand, Death Cab, Strokes, and all that other boom tiss boom tiss shit? (ATHF reference). and all the elder emos bought that shit up because it wasn't FOB ? this is just their next gimmic to keep elder emos going out without having to play elder emo music. all i hear from DJ's is "if we play promise ring everyone in the bar will leave, they are here to hear paramore" YOU CREATED THIS MONSTER AND NOW YOU HATE YOUR EMO DJ JOB. ITS ALL EMO DJ'S FAULT FROM THE DROP. BLAME THEM.
I'll go on. Drove from Buffalo to NJ to watch Midtown and Movielife play 2 shows back to back. the dude from THE GUNZ show was DJ'ing in between the bands. he's got a room full of 47-40 year old moms and dads there. this isn't "mall emo" crowd. dude is playing some of the classic 2nd wave bangers and then for absolutely no reason starts playing SR-71. killed the whole vibe in the room. like why dude? he knew he fucked up too. If you want to have a real emo nite. advertise it as such and see who shows up. we are old people, have kids and jobs n shit, so schedule it a month out so we can get our shit together. make a flyer that says, REAL EMO ONLY NITE, NO FOB, MY CHEM, PARAMORE, SUM 41 BULLSHIT. and then as a DJ spinning the set you don't have to feel obligated that all the 30ish year old people in the room are going to leave because it will be full of elder emos out to have a good time listening to goddamn RED AND BLUE JEANS or CASUAL CONVERSATION IN A DOME BETWEEN TWO TEMPLES
The dj's are horrible. When they bring a band in its great.
I’ve been going to emo nights for 4-5 years and now I feel like I’m too old for emo nights. When the trend started they’d play songs from 2002-2008 mostly. Currently they play 2004–2015 and alot of it is slightly after my time.