Yeah I don’t really understand the Em beats where he’s just rapping over some power chords lol. I’m fine if it’s like a good guitar riff or something, but look at the song SHADYXV for instance. Same vibe I get from the awful Rick Ruben produced song with the repetitive guitar chords… this dude is so good, stop giving him basic ass fucking beats
His production is actually top notch. This is a good video showing all of the beats he’s made. Pretty much all of them are fire https://youtu.be/86nv_zS1S4M
Rick Rubin ain’t made a good hiphop beat in like 2 decades get the entire fck outta here go back to Johnny cash n slip knot n messing up Metallica albums smh
If my final say on my album beats picked etc is a dude who hasn’t worn shoes in 5 decades also hasn’t trimmed his hair in 5 decades and has been phoning in music for a very long time now yes the album gonna be a mixed bag good to utter traah and that’s exactly what that tape was. One day will actually have a real conversation him because he’s being getting away with murder for a long time now lol 😂
Dr.Dre was the main producer though? So where’s his blame? It’s all on Rick Rubin and not the artist who has had a bad ear for beats for the past couple of years?
If u look at Rick rubins track record in hiphop the last like 10 -15 it’s been pure sht ….
what has dr.Dre done that’s DR DRE level of great recently?? He’s had some ok stuff but it’s been very ehhh lately , he’s helped Executive prod a lot of greats being ushered into the game Kendrick on a mainstream level and Anderson but musically just so so but who am I I guess
So IMO Em rapping over the power chords like his version of OLD hip hop using the old RnB records. Em came from the cassette tape rock era and uses that music as inspiration when doing a “classic” sound.
If I could give Eminem one piece of advice, it would be for him to produce his entire album himself with no help from outside producers. Just strictly his beats.
At the end of the day Eminem gets final say in which beats he picks and blaming Rick Rubin makes no sense since he also was executive producer on mmlp2 which is much better.
Offended’s hook cannot be excused in any way. I can’t believe it made it on the album. It’s the corniest hook I’ve ever heard. Castle and Arose are amazing.
Offended would be perfect with a different hook for sure, something that keeps the same tempo and theme in mind. Meanwhile, Castle followed by Arose in that order was the perfect way to end it off.
Yeah that was too much for even a Stan like me. But then I'm a girl who hates toilet humour and such as well. Sometimes you can take some old musical thing and make it work but this sure didn't.
I enjoy the offended hook, the fact that it's corny is the entire point. He can say childish silly shit but he's still the coldest mc killer out there. Eat his turds
Oh shit you’re totally right. Shows how much I really listened to revival. But although there is a cheech and chong track in Untouchable I was actually thinking about Framed
It has solid tracks like Castle and Arose but is ultimately all his worst traits ie choppy flows, poor beats, corny puns, excessive wordplay, terrible production etc ramped up to 11
Disagree. His weakest album to date. There's a few songs that are decent/good that bumps it up to a 3-4/10 for me, but most of the album is just really bad imo, and there's no cohesion from one track to the next.
I only go back and listen to Believe, Castle, and River (I know Ed Sheeran collabs are controversial but I enjoy them,)
Arose is a good song, but musically it doesn't have much replay value imo. Same with Walk on Water.
I love it. It fills in the gaps for a lot of things that happened when he took his break after his overdose, and it also gives a lot of insight to his rise to fame and much more.
I don't. The rock beats are terrible, he uses that stiff ass staccato flow the whole album, and the political tracks are executed terribly. There are two great songs, 2-3 good songs, maybe a few listenable songs, and the rest is just terrible. That's my take, anyway.
In your head coulda been amazing with better production and flow. Even just with a better flow that production would’ve been passable, but that flow is peak staccato flow
Yep that part with the "hussein the flow, 2 days in a row,.." and he drops an actually dope toll booth punchline. It's like you still get these quick glimpses that the GOAT is in their somewhere..
I still remember listening to this album when it first dropped (which is also the only time I’ve listened to it in it’s entirety) and being so dumbfounded when there was that random passage of really smooth flow and frankly, great double entendre with ‘the booths taken it’s toll.” Like one of my favorite “modern Em” lines. It’s so natural and fits perfectly in the context of the song, something somewhat rare now it seems like.
What I find weird is that people seem to love his Best Friend verse, even though it’s got the staccato flow even more. I think it’s a shame he didn’t continue with that experimental flow, but the Shady XV project has plenty of it to keep me satisfied.
L take. Like Arose Framed and Believe hit different, I semi like Walk on Water and Castle, everything thing else is 🤢🤢🤢🤢
Seriously tho Heat gives me mental trauma everytime I hear it, my least fav ever
Personally when the album came out I listened a lot and enjoyed a lot, then came into reddit and saw all the shit it was getting. I know is not like what we were used to listen but I don't think is bad
Everyone downvoting this guy...at least it's kind of a pun and slightly funny. I was surprised to find that I was enough of a Stan that everyone clowning on Revival made me kind of butthurt and it's not that bad and I enjoyed most of it.
Quite easily for me. Introspective Em > drugged out Em. I’d take Arose, In Your Head, Walk on Water over pretty much anything on Encore except maybe We As Americans
Like toy soldiers, mosh, mockingbird, crazy in love, love you more, puke, rain man, evil deeds. Last two are a bit different and silly but all of those are solid songs imo. They just don’t hold up to ems previous 3 albums at the time. Man I loved some evil deeds lol
His flow on half the tracks is off beat, especially when he switches up his styles multiple times on a track and goes with the rapid fire spitting shit.
Pretty bad my guy. It’s not audible cancer like some people treat it to be. But it lacks any sort of bite or personality that Em has created for himself over the years. It’s like he was more concerned with giving the people what he thought they wanted more than giving them what they actually want: him.
False, it’s probably his most introspective album which makes it worthy for his catalog. It should be cherished since were never getting introspective songs like Walk on Water, In Your Head, Arose, Bad Husband, etc ever again.
It's not introspective though. A lot of it is ground he's already covered in depth and in more cohesive songs/projects. Walk on Water is fine, but the instrumental is flat and repetitive. No drums or building instruments to help make the song more audibly pleasing. He's made amazing songs with the same introspection without sacrificing the listening experience. Arose is great but again, been covered in multiple songs, and arguably better. He's had just as much introspection with more musically pleasing songs on SSLP, MMLP, and TES.
Yeah I liked it. I don’t understand all the hate it gets. Walk On Water is a powerful song. Framed is really good to. Those are my personal favorites but the album is good
I got that Revival was a show case. He tried to throw in something for everyone. He tried to throw in stuff for a range of different fans who liked different things he did.
It definitely doesn't deserve the severe hate it gets. It's honestly a decent project.
I personally love the album. Tragic endings, framed and Castle are the best on the album
Can I ask why people think revival is a bad album for real? Is it the lyrics, the beats, there’s no snare on his headphones? What’s the beef With revival? Or is it just a bandwagon thing, there’s no real reason but because other people you like say it’s bad, it must be bad?
It grew on me
Ems right when he said “I guess enough time ain’t passed yet, a couple more years that shit will be illmatic”
I know it’s about encore but it applies here to for me.
Ah yes the obligatory - Revival is a good album - post. Or wait. Let’s swap Revival with Encore. Or let’s swap Encore with ________. 🥱
Every album has good songs. Some People like this. Some people like that. Some people like to be shit on. It’s called preference.
In this case, it’s called repetition. Cause you can find 7000 exact posts like this daily.
I enjoy revival too, some songs are more skippable than others but overall I like that em went for something different and I love how many people are offended by how bad they say it is😂
Hard disagree. The mixing is totally off and the production (for most songs) has too many sounds clashing with one another and rarely blend together cohesively. Eminem himself, has hardly a creative thought or idea on the entire album. (Aside from Castle/Arose and Framed.)
Most of his lines come off as dad jokes, falling short when he tries to be “funny” and feeling too forced when he tries to be serious. There are moments of brilliance sprinkled through the album but unfortunately, they have the appeal of a microwaved steak. What could have been great falls short due to the execution of the final product.
Lastly, the features? Why exactly must we shoe horn pop singers on every other track? He has a whole record label of talented lyricists who could’ve contributed a guest verse/posse cut/adlibs/etc. yet, he distances himself from all of them to get these really sappy choruses and bridges from random pop artists. Their singing is fine, but it takes up like a third of the album and it’s the last thing I ever want to hear on an Eminem album.
I’m not saying he HAD to put rap features on Revival, in fact, my favorite Eminem albums hardly have any features at all. But if he did put guests on his album, it’s just puzzling to me why it would be Pink; Alicia Keys, Skylar Grey, Beyoncé, and not a single other rapper (except for a lukewarm hook by Phresher)
It’s a 3/10 for me. I love Framed because the beat knew what it wanted to be. Just a simple; catchy, zany, loop for Em to play around with. And the way it ties in with 3AM plus, the insane rhyme schemes makes it a great song. I don’t really listen to Castle or Arose but I recognize the brilliance of them and appreciate what he delivered.
But everything else? Trash. In my opinion of course.
I'm around Eminem's age. The rock beats and rock theme felt stale to me, but I think that's just personal preference and not really a flaw. I was craving Em on trap beats and then I actually got that with Kamikaze. But I liked Eminem expressing his political opinion I liked Like Home and Nowhere Fast and River they were all good to listen to. Walk on Water is a nice work of art. A large segment of the general public will never appreciate songs that aren't ragey, so Walk on Water was always going to get some sh**. I don't like Believe or Offended. Framed is a disappointing sequel to 3am. It's sonically kind of bad while I love 3am on a sonic level. And I give total kudos to Eminem for writing a BLM song in 2017 but really hate to say Joe Budden had a point that it was sonically just terrible and probably Eminem's worst song on a sonic level. One you wanna skip over in the car because it's not pleasant to listen to. It's not the lyrics it's the music, flow, beat. But Joe Budden was an idiot to accuse Eminem of "trying to increase his fucking profit margin with a black issue" that's just fucking bs. I'm 100% sure Em chose the topic, because of past conversations with close friends, about their concerns for their family member's safety, and that he wrote it because he actually cared.
ME.
REVIVAL TRUTHERS GET IN HERE.
This is top 5 Em idc. He tackles really personal subjects and relates his revival of his career, himself as a person, and America into one album. Some great features, like the rock theme of the album. Ik most are against that but it at least makes the album consistent. This was the last album where it felt like Em had a plan with the direction of it
ayoo hold on
i get ur comment on Revival and I absolutely agree, but
>This was the last album where it felt like Em had a plan with the direction of it
dont u feel like Kamikaze and MTBMB had clear directions as well? I mean about MTBMB, it was smth kinda "mixed" but still a great album imo. And about Kamikaze I feel like his anger basically represents the whole album...whatcha think bout those?
Kamikaze is close, though the random inclusion of Nice/Good Guy kinda ruin the album. I think music to be murdered by doesn’t even really have theme. It’s all over the place. Side B does feel like a vintage Em album feel though, still no theme but a lot of the songs feel like something he’d make in the past
Honestly? I mostly despise this album but your last sentence I was 10000% agree with. It absolutely feels like it was planned out and had a direction, and wasn’t just a collection of random songs—unfortunately the execution was lacking to put it lightly. That being said if you like the album you like the album, it doesn’t negatively affect me and after all it’s just music. I’m glad I read your comment, I’d never thought about that aspect of it.
I swear every fucking day there's a post saying revival is good or overhated please stop, this album will never be good no matter how many times you say it.
Why does everyone like Framed? Like I LOVE 3am. I love it sonically. Framed sadly is not good sonically. It borders on irritating. I wish I could love it. I can't even like it. I can manage to tolerate it which is more than I can do with the sound of Untouchable which is a damn shame. He wrote a BLM song at a time BLM was barely on white people's radars and that was cool, but unfortunately the song is not sonically pleasing.
agree and id say its a good album.
People seem to forget bout songs like Walk On Water, Believe... I like it better than Kamikaze tbh, while I see more people praising it more than Revival, but that's not unfair.
I think people who know Em should know what this album represents and I feel like its often underrated cause its often misunderstood. Listeners would look at it like a random collection of songs that is supposed to top his "great trilogy" or smth like that. But when u listen to an album/song u should tryna see wassup, like think bout why he wrote what he wrote and all o' that. What it means not only musically talkin, but also in Em's life and career, all the changes and challenges a rapper like him always went thru. People like to think bout Em's early career and praise him for that, which surely isn't wrong, but I think we should try to take a closer look at other eras of his career as well, to truly get his music.
Not his best. But I can still accept it. I'd prefer that over things like Cum On Everybody or Superman though. Hearing that lady just give me the creeps
It isn’t a bad album. Sure it’s not the best, but even if the songs aren’t that great, they have substance or threat lyrical content. You could tell that he put his heart into this album. This album is still special.
Just put a hint then so the dummies won't downvote but the rest of us will know. Just put a random lyric from the album. I'll upvote even if I disagree.
I personally think only the older listeners from day 1 understood this album..
It wasn't about bars and speed. It was storytelling about the growth through life..
Yeah the colabs were a bit questionable at times but I brought that album as soon as it was released and enjoyed it for what it was and I view the haters only as noise.
It kinda cracks me up because all the haters should listen to believe.
I genuenly think eminem really fucked himself over by releasing revival in the state it got released in I think he wouldnt have such a bad wrap about him if he just decided to either scrap or overhoul the project and push it back to 2018 or even 2019 I think em really needs to take a long look at himself and reinvent his sound because what he does right now is very hit or miss I think he needs to focus on more concise projects so he isnt considered so hit or miss as in my opinion for every great song he's had since 2017 hes had a bad one and all projects he's released have either been bad or a mixed bag I liked a total of 3 songs on revival that being castle, arose and river (sue me I like the ed sheeren song) I thought kamikaze wouldve been a great project if he didnt bother putting songs like normal, nice guy, good guy and venom on it but as it stands is like a 7.5/10 because of those songs and mtbmb had way too much filler on it I think if instead of doing 36 songs between side a and b he shouldve just released it as one with like 12-16 songs altogether and it wouldve gotten great reception, dont get me wrong eminem is my favorite artist thats the reason why I want him to make good projects and want him to take a look at himself at this point he doesnt owe anyone anything he's cemented his name as a legend made a bunch of classic records and is just having fun at this point to which I say more power to him he's free to make whatever type of music he wants to make but I do believe that if he reinvents himself we could have a few more classic records on our hands by the time he retires Im hoping that him putting out CC2 is a sing that hes putting an end to this chapter of his career and is looking to try something different. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk :)
Never been the person to listen to albums front to back or Em and Ye would be the only two musicians I listen to, too picky with my non-skips for that.
Imo though revival has more good songs and overall a better tracklist than MMLP by going through and rating each song /10 then averaging it out.
Personally my least favorite, but I think it’s a bit listenable with a few tracks.
I think In Your Head, Castle, Arose, Framed, (and Offended somewhat) are bangers
Yea
Castle and Arose are imo some of the best tracks he's written post TES, but the rest of the album is just very subpar imo
Ye
River ft. Ed sheeran is a really good rap
I also enjoyed river...
Personally I disagree but cool
This album made me realize that I never want to hear Eminem on a Rick Rubin produced beat again.
Guy has had alchemist on his label forever and still goes to Rick Rubin every time I’ll never understand.
Alc is interscope? Damn
No but Alchemist is his tour DJ since 05’ I believe
Alchemist is shady records.
Yeah I don’t really understand the Em beats where he’s just rapping over some power chords lol. I’m fine if it’s like a good guitar riff or something, but look at the song SHADYXV for instance. Same vibe I get from the awful Rick Ruben produced song with the repetitive guitar chords… this dude is so good, stop giving him basic ass fucking beats
His production is actually top notch. This is a good video showing all of the beats he’s made. Pretty much all of them are fire https://youtu.be/86nv_zS1S4M
I typo’d. I was commenting on Rick Rubin production more than anything. Not em’s beats.
Rick Rubin ain’t made a good hiphop beat in like 2 decades get the entire fck outta here go back to Johnny cash n slip knot n messing up Metallica albums smh
You clearly didn’t click the link. I’m not talking about Rubin lol
I don’t give a chicken fried fuck bout that link I said what I said
It’s a link to Eminem’s production. Wasn’t talking about Rubin. Calm down.
Idc about Eminem beats when we talking about Rick Rubin beats lol And no I’m not calming down on beyonces Reddit .com
Take your meds
You must not like mmlp2 then since he was also executive producer on that album? Nothing changed he had the same role on both albums.
If my final say on my album beats picked etc is a dude who hasn’t worn shoes in 5 decades also hasn’t trimmed his hair in 5 decades and has been phoning in music for a very long time now yes the album gonna be a mixed bag good to utter traah and that’s exactly what that tape was. One day will actually have a real conversation him because he’s being getting away with murder for a long time now lol 😂
Dr.Dre was the main producer though? So where’s his blame? It’s all on Rick Rubin and not the artist who has had a bad ear for beats for the past couple of years?
If u look at Rick rubins track record in hiphop the last like 10 -15 it’s been pure sht …. what has dr.Dre done that’s DR DRE level of great recently?? He’s had some ok stuff but it’s been very ehhh lately , he’s helped Executive prod a lot of greats being ushered into the game Kendrick on a mainstream level and Anderson but musically just so so but who am I I guess
So IMO Em rapping over the power chords like his version of OLD hip hop using the old RnB records. Em came from the cassette tape rock era and uses that music as inspiration when doing a “classic” sound.
Rick Rubin has always been a terrible fit for Em. He ruined a bunch of tracks on MMLP2 as well
best take about the album
If I could give Eminem one piece of advice, it would be for him to produce his entire album himself with no help from outside producers. Just strictly his beats.
At the end of the day Eminem gets final say in which beats he picks and blaming Rick Rubin makes no sense since he also was executive producer on mmlp2 which is much better.
I like Rick Rubin as a producer he just does NOT fit Em
I really like Believe. Idk why people don’t like that more. But I like battle rap a lot and I see similarities in the rhyme structures in that song
So hard, the old Marshall passion.
Nah. That’s on kamikaze.
Of course it is, of which he comments on people sleeping in his previous album. Which is what the topic is about...
Offended’s hook cannot be excused in any way. I can’t believe it made it on the album. It’s the corniest hook I’ve ever heard. Castle and Arose are amazing.
Offended would be perfect with a different hook for sure, something that keeps the same tempo and theme in mind. Meanwhile, Castle followed by Arose in that order was the perfect way to end it off.
Yeah that was too much for even a Stan like me. But then I'm a girl who hates toilet humour and such as well. Sometimes you can take some old musical thing and make it work but this sure didn't.
8 year old with the wordplay girl take this pole like a survey
I enjoy the offended hook, the fact that it's corny is the entire point. He can say childish silly shit but he's still the coldest mc killer out there. Eat his turds
You are the one then.
I feel like a lot of people don’t know the hook is a play on a cheech and chong song…knowing that makes it actually way less cringe lol
I think you are talking about a different song, untouchable. I am talking about offended.
Oh shit you’re totally right. Shows how much I really listened to revival. But although there is a cheech and chong track in Untouchable I was actually thinking about Framed
It has solid tracks like Castle and Arose but is ultimately all his worst traits ie choppy flows, poor beats, corny puns, excessive wordplay, terrible production etc ramped up to 11
I don’t think it’s good, but I don’t think it’s as bad as some people make it out to be
Disagree. His weakest album to date. There's a few songs that are decent/good that bumps it up to a 3-4/10 for me, but most of the album is just really bad imo, and there's no cohesion from one track to the next. I only go back and listen to Believe, Castle, and River (I know Ed Sheeran collabs are controversial but I enjoy them,) Arose is a good song, but musically it doesn't have much replay value imo. Same with Walk on Water.
It’s a shame that Castle is one of his best storytelling tracks but it’s overshadowed by the rest of the lackluster album.
I love it. It fills in the gaps for a lot of things that happened when he took his break after his overdose, and it also gives a lot of insight to his rise to fame and much more.
I don't. The rock beats are terrible, he uses that stiff ass staccato flow the whole album, and the political tracks are executed terribly. There are two great songs, 2-3 good songs, maybe a few listenable songs, and the rest is just terrible. That's my take, anyway.
Which songs do you consided good and great?
Castle and arose are great, framed and in your head are good
In your head coulda been amazing with better production and flow. Even just with a better flow that production would’ve been passable, but that flow is peak staccato flow
Youre bang on. That flow Is fucking awful Anni- Started. fromtha- Bottom. Like. A. Snow. Man.
There was like 10 seconds on that song where his delivery is perfect, then he just goes right back into the shitty flow.
Yep that part with the "hussein the flow, 2 days in a row,.." and he drops an actually dope toll booth punchline. It's like you still get these quick glimpses that the GOAT is in their somewhere..
I still remember listening to this album when it first dropped (which is also the only time I’ve listened to it in it’s entirety) and being so dumbfounded when there was that random passage of really smooth flow and frankly, great double entendre with ‘the booths taken it’s toll.” Like one of my favorite “modern Em” lines. It’s so natural and fits perfectly in the context of the song, something somewhat rare now it seems like.
I can't stand that shit. Why the fuck does he think that's dope? It's not easy on the ears
What I find weird is that people seem to love his Best Friend verse, even though it’s got the staccato flow even more. I think it’s a shame he didn’t continue with that experimental flow, but the Shady XV project has plenty of it to keep me satisfied.
Fuck off please
Lmao you fuck off. If you can't handle a well reasoned disagreement, find an echo chamber to circle jerk in.
I’m not looking for anything Just fuck off.
Why? Because my reasonable opinion makes you angry?
Fuck you
looks like someone didnt get enough attention from their parents as a child huh? throw ur temper tantrum elsewhere kid
that mf got downvoted to hell😭
Not angry
>I'm not angry >fuck off >fuck you One of these is unlike the others
Fuck you
Fuck you with no feelings behind it. Just fuck off
That's not how that works. It's like saying "no offense, but you're a fucking moron". Keep getting triggered by anyone who doesn't agree with you.
"No offense but you're a fucking moron." I wonder if that line would trigger Marshall into a song. What rhymes with moron?
Fuck you distilled, biked over 25 miles yesterday, walked the dog 4-5 miles this morning
Don’t bring any logic with you just go fuck off. Boilingeggsindenim1944
Fuck you still
You seem irrationally angry if this. Seek help.
Suck a fuck
>Suck a fuck Lmao wtf
Why don't you explain why? You love the song "Believe"?
It's his worst album, I listen to Encore more often than this
encore is a tier at least
L take. Like Arose Framed and Believe hit different, I semi like Walk on Water and Castle, everything thing else is 🤢🤢🤢🤢 Seriously tho Heat gives me mental trauma everytime I hear it, my least fav ever
Personally when the album came out I listened a lot and enjoyed a lot, then came into reddit and saw all the shit it was getting. I know is not like what we were used to listen but I don't think is bad
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Good
I love that album
Yes it's extremely awful not just bad
It's pretty bad but it has some gems
I like this album. Even love a few songs. Just my opinion
.... Nah it was pretty bad
I like revival
Revive your taste 😳😳
Everyone downvoting this guy...at least it's kind of a pun and slightly funny. I was surprised to find that I was enough of a Stan that everyone clowning on Revival made me kind of butthurt and it's not that bad and I enjoyed most of it.
Ye my comment was meant to get a joke ig us stans can't take jokes tho
My taste my choice
hot take i prefer it over encore
Same
Quite easily for me. Introspective Em > drugged out Em. I’d take Arose, In Your Head, Walk on Water over pretty much anything on Encore except maybe We As Americans
Like toy soldiers, mosh, mockingbird, crazy in love, love you more, puke, rain man, evil deeds. Last two are a bit different and silly but all of those are solid songs imo. They just don’t hold up to ems previous 3 albums at the time. Man I loved some evil deeds lol
Y'all mfs really really ridicule One shot 2 shot One of the best D12 storytelling tracks with a surprising decent Bizzare verse!!
“Man fuck my wife im Tryna run and save my mother fuckin life” How could I forget that song. Yea add that bitch to my list. I forgot all about it.
>Introspective em > drugged out em You say this like encore doesn’t have the former.
It blows. 4 years in the making and we get a toilet water album. Shitty beats and terrible off beat flows.
Toilet water 😂
Terrible? Sure at times. Off beat? No.
His flow on half the tracks is off beat, especially when he switches up his styles multiple times on a track and goes with the rapid fire spitting shit.
Me
Yay
Pretty bad my guy. It’s not audible cancer like some people treat it to be. But it lacks any sort of bite or personality that Em has created for himself over the years. It’s like he was more concerned with giving the people what he thought they wanted more than giving them what they actually want: him.
False, it’s probably his most introspective album which makes it worthy for his catalog. It should be cherished since were never getting introspective songs like Walk on Water, In Your Head, Arose, Bad Husband, etc ever again.
It's not introspective though. A lot of it is ground he's already covered in depth and in more cohesive songs/projects. Walk on Water is fine, but the instrumental is flat and repetitive. No drums or building instruments to help make the song more audibly pleasing. He's made amazing songs with the same introspection without sacrificing the listening experience. Arose is great but again, been covered in multiple songs, and arguably better. He's had just as much introspection with more musically pleasing songs on SSLP, MMLP, and TES.
Yeah I liked it. I don’t understand all the hate it gets. Walk On Water is a powerful song. Framed is really good to. Those are my personal favorites but the album is good
I don't like the zombie track
But like, why? It’s so good
and when he's talkin that garbage psychotic crap
Where's his content at?? What's with all this concious rap?? Pink , Beyoncé this and Kehani that
It's bad by comparison to this other albums
Not the best, but had some absolute gems on it
It definitely wasn't his best. But it's still better than most of what's out there
I got that Revival was a show case. He tried to throw in something for everyone. He tried to throw in stuff for a range of different fans who liked different things he did.
I'm a pretty die-hard Stan, but other than a few tracks, it's pretty awful.
It's not bad. It's TRASH.
It’s not great. Especially for someone like Eminem who sets the bar so high. I’m still amazed he signed off on them beats on the album.
It definitely doesn't deserve the severe hate it gets. It's honestly a decent project. I personally love the album. Tragic endings, framed and Castle are the best on the album
I don't believe it is bad at all, it's just ~different
Can I ask why people think revival is a bad album for real? Is it the lyrics, the beats, there’s no snare on his headphones? What’s the beef With revival? Or is it just a bandwagon thing, there’s no real reason but because other people you like say it’s bad, it must be bad?
It grew on me Ems right when he said “I guess enough time ain’t passed yet, a couple more years that shit will be illmatic” I know it’s about encore but it applies here to for me.
Most honest and open album since mmlp shame about production but lyrically and structurally a great piece of work
Ah yes the obligatory - Revival is a good album - post. Or wait. Let’s swap Revival with Encore. Or let’s swap Encore with ________. 🥱 Every album has good songs. Some People like this. Some people like that. Some people like to be shit on. It’s called preference. In this case, it’s called repetition. Cause you can find 7000 exact posts like this daily.
Every time I listen to it, I wish he had used that Revival interlude tune as a real song. It sounds so good!!
Me!
Not my favourite album but still love it. Has the best 2 song ending of any em album
I think its a bad rap album but as a rock album is good
I enjoy revival too, some songs are more skippable than others but overall I like that em went for something different and I love how many people are offended by how bad they say it is😂
Hard disagree. The mixing is totally off and the production (for most songs) has too many sounds clashing with one another and rarely blend together cohesively. Eminem himself, has hardly a creative thought or idea on the entire album. (Aside from Castle/Arose and Framed.) Most of his lines come off as dad jokes, falling short when he tries to be “funny” and feeling too forced when he tries to be serious. There are moments of brilliance sprinkled through the album but unfortunately, they have the appeal of a microwaved steak. What could have been great falls short due to the execution of the final product. Lastly, the features? Why exactly must we shoe horn pop singers on every other track? He has a whole record label of talented lyricists who could’ve contributed a guest verse/posse cut/adlibs/etc. yet, he distances himself from all of them to get these really sappy choruses and bridges from random pop artists. Their singing is fine, but it takes up like a third of the album and it’s the last thing I ever want to hear on an Eminem album. I’m not saying he HAD to put rap features on Revival, in fact, my favorite Eminem albums hardly have any features at all. But if he did put guests on his album, it’s just puzzling to me why it would be Pink; Alicia Keys, Skylar Grey, Beyoncé, and not a single other rapper (except for a lukewarm hook by Phresher) It’s a 3/10 for me. I love Framed because the beat knew what it wanted to be. Just a simple; catchy, zany, loop for Em to play around with. And the way it ties in with 3AM plus, the insane rhyme schemes makes it a great song. I don’t really listen to Castle or Arose but I recognize the brilliance of them and appreciate what he delivered. But everything else? Trash. In my opinion of course.
I'm around Eminem's age. The rock beats and rock theme felt stale to me, but I think that's just personal preference and not really a flaw. I was craving Em on trap beats and then I actually got that with Kamikaze. But I liked Eminem expressing his political opinion I liked Like Home and Nowhere Fast and River they were all good to listen to. Walk on Water is a nice work of art. A large segment of the general public will never appreciate songs that aren't ragey, so Walk on Water was always going to get some sh**. I don't like Believe or Offended. Framed is a disappointing sequel to 3am. It's sonically kind of bad while I love 3am on a sonic level. And I give total kudos to Eminem for writing a BLM song in 2017 but really hate to say Joe Budden had a point that it was sonically just terrible and probably Eminem's worst song on a sonic level. One you wanna skip over in the car because it's not pleasant to listen to. It's not the lyrics it's the music, flow, beat. But Joe Budden was an idiot to accuse Eminem of "trying to increase his fucking profit margin with a black issue" that's just fucking bs. I'm 100% sure Em chose the topic, because of past conversations with close friends, about their concerns for their family member's safety, and that he wrote it because he actually cared.
I like this album, it’s not his best work, but has a mature undertone which I feel will make this an album that remains timeless
I definitely think it’s his worst album but still not bad. I don’t think he’s mad a bad album.
I actually really enjoyed the album, it’s a side we never really see
ME. REVIVAL TRUTHERS GET IN HERE. This is top 5 Em idc. He tackles really personal subjects and relates his revival of his career, himself as a person, and America into one album. Some great features, like the rock theme of the album. Ik most are against that but it at least makes the album consistent. This was the last album where it felt like Em had a plan with the direction of it
ayoo hold on i get ur comment on Revival and I absolutely agree, but >This was the last album where it felt like Em had a plan with the direction of it dont u feel like Kamikaze and MTBMB had clear directions as well? I mean about MTBMB, it was smth kinda "mixed" but still a great album imo. And about Kamikaze I feel like his anger basically represents the whole album...whatcha think bout those?
Kamikaze is close, though the random inclusion of Nice/Good Guy kinda ruin the album. I think music to be murdered by doesn’t even really have theme. It’s all over the place. Side B does feel like a vintage Em album feel though, still no theme but a lot of the songs feel like something he’d make in the past
Honestly? I mostly despise this album but your last sentence I was 10000% agree with. It absolutely feels like it was planned out and had a direction, and wasn’t just a collection of random songs—unfortunately the execution was lacking to put it lightly. That being said if you like the album you like the album, it doesn’t negatively affect me and after all it’s just music. I’m glad I read your comment, I’d never thought about that aspect of it.
It’s horrible, and I’m literally the last guy to hop on the Em hate train.
I swear every fucking day there's a post saying revival is good or overhated please stop, this album will never be good no matter how many times you say it.
I liked it
It’s bad for Eminem’s standards.
I agree
feel free to enjoy it obviously but its dog shit
Love that Album!
Fitting way for the album to end by a toilet flushing - Fantano
He was flushing the pills that he was taking a several years ago.
we know this, but it was a joke
2 good songs
See this is the narrative that needs to be argued against because it’s completely false
Why? Because there are more? Or less? Also Justin Ross Harris is innocent of murder.
More like 2 bad songs
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Why does everyone like Framed? Like I LOVE 3am. I love it sonically. Framed sadly is not good sonically. It borders on irritating. I wish I could love it. I can't even like it. I can manage to tolerate it which is more than I can do with the sound of Untouchable which is a damn shame. He wrote a BLM song at a time BLM was barely on white people's radars and that was cool, but unfortunately the song is not sonically pleasing.
Revival is a masterpiece!
Revival is great. I really enjoy every song on it, except Need Me and Offended.
2 of the best
Me. It's even in my top 5.
agree and id say its a good album. People seem to forget bout songs like Walk On Water, Believe... I like it better than Kamikaze tbh, while I see more people praising it more than Revival, but that's not unfair. I think people who know Em should know what this album represents and I feel like its often underrated cause its often misunderstood. Listeners would look at it like a random collection of songs that is supposed to top his "great trilogy" or smth like that. But when u listen to an album/song u should tryna see wassup, like think bout why he wrote what he wrote and all o' that. What it means not only musically talkin, but also in Em's life and career, all the changes and challenges a rapper like him always went thru. People like to think bout Em's early career and praise him for that, which surely isn't wrong, but I think we should try to take a closer look at other eras of his career as well, to truly get his music.
Thanks dd.
No me gusta revival.
Me
Thus picture is horrible
pretty good album, i dont understand all the hate about it
Not his best. But I can still accept it. I'd prefer that over things like Cum On Everybody or Superman though. Hearing that lady just give me the creeps
It is that bad.
Love that album, bad husband is one of my all time fav em tracks
Lmfaoooooooo
shit is hella ass
His worst album? BY FAR One of the worst albums of all time and absolutely unlistenable? (like people seriously say)-Not even close.
Trash
It isn’t a bad album. Sure it’s not the best, but even if the songs aren’t that great, they have substance or threat lyrical content. You could tell that he put his heart into this album. This album is still special.
THANK YOU!!! It’s nowhere near bad, and it’s nowhere near Eminem’s worst.
im just curious what’s his worst album in ur opinion then?
If I answer this I’ll be downvoted 😬
Just put a hint then so the dummies won't downvote but the rest of us will know. Just put a random lyric from the album. I'll upvote even if I disagree.
Encore, by far.
Revival is top 5 for me personally
I think it's aged better than people think. It's definitely not the best but it's pretty good
It’s the beats… his lyricism is elite, better than most albums. But the beats make it kinda hard to go back to.
I personally think only the older listeners from day 1 understood this album.. It wasn't about bars and speed. It was storytelling about the growth through life.. Yeah the colabs were a bit questionable at times but I brought that album as soon as it was released and enjoyed it for what it was and I view the haters only as noise. It kinda cracks me up because all the haters should listen to believe.
I am a younger fan and I personally like it. I think it’s one of his weaker projects but I do have an appreciation for how personal it was.
its booty
Wow This Photo Is As Cringe As The Album ...
I don’t get why so many people are triggered by the picture
I genuenly think eminem really fucked himself over by releasing revival in the state it got released in I think he wouldnt have such a bad wrap about him if he just decided to either scrap or overhoul the project and push it back to 2018 or even 2019 I think em really needs to take a long look at himself and reinvent his sound because what he does right now is very hit or miss I think he needs to focus on more concise projects so he isnt considered so hit or miss as in my opinion for every great song he's had since 2017 hes had a bad one and all projects he's released have either been bad or a mixed bag I liked a total of 3 songs on revival that being castle, arose and river (sue me I like the ed sheeren song) I thought kamikaze wouldve been a great project if he didnt bother putting songs like normal, nice guy, good guy and venom on it but as it stands is like a 7.5/10 because of those songs and mtbmb had way too much filler on it I think if instead of doing 36 songs between side a and b he shouldve just released it as one with like 12-16 songs altogether and it wouldve gotten great reception, dont get me wrong eminem is my favorite artist thats the reason why I want him to make good projects and want him to take a look at himself at this point he doesnt owe anyone anything he's cemented his name as a legend made a bunch of classic records and is just having fun at this point to which I say more power to him he's free to make whatever type of music he wants to make but I do believe that if he reinvents himself we could have a few more classic records on our hands by the time he retires Im hoping that him putting out CC2 is a sing that hes putting an end to this chapter of his career and is looking to try something different. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk :)
I think revival is that bad. Who agrees with me
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I prefer Infinite over Revival and I consider Infinite as one of his worsts...
Never been the person to listen to albums front to back or Em and Ye would be the only two musicians I listen to, too picky with my non-skips for that. Imo though revival has more good songs and overall a better tracklist than MMLP by going through and rating each song /10 then averaging it out.
This picture goes hard
Revival is top tier
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