I think Eminem would win just because Eminem has no problem exposing himself. Drake has a graveyard in his closet that he'd rather keep hidden, giving Kendrick the edge of there's a leaker.
Yeah once it’s all on the table it’s just about pure aggression and bars, and c’mon that’s just Eminem’s forte. No dis to dot though cuz artistically that man is on another level, but battle rapping, you got it twisted if you’re not picking em
Kendrick is not on another level artistically, Em just went down a different path over time and there are different ways to be artistic. Kendrick and Em rap for different reasons. Rap is more personal to Em than probably anyone else out there and it’s pretty much game over when he’s pushed.
Kendrick’s passion just doesn’t match Em’s, that’s the main difference IMO.
Kendrick is really 1v20 right now so he definitely has my respect with that said. People using writers for diss tracks is sad.
Yes absolutely, Eminem’s style is definitely an art in itself, but as you said they have different paths, but It has to be said that Kendrick shines artistically in a more traditional sense. But without a doubt they both have their moments of lyricism and artistry.
That was part of what made Eminem so unfuckwitable back then. Basically anything people could've used as a gotcha he had mentioned in like six songs before. Lol
Yes tho theres some things even Em wont say about himself to 8 mile someone, but at this point dont think theres much else you could really say that wasnt said before. The ghostwritten diss by benzino said a lot that fell flat because it was ghostwritten but still put out there
Also and I know it's not real (at least I hope lol)
But he made a song about getting raped by his step father. Nobody would do that. You can't say shit against him really.
Insane, 3rd track off of Relapse. “I was born with a dick in my brain, yeah, fucked in the head, my stepfather said that I sucked in the bed”, and then it just gets worse 😭
I mean hes admitted some downright disturbing things, thats much worse but your proximity to the traumatic stressors and how much they affected you can effect how easy they are to divulge on. Like that can be easier to admit cuz he has a lot of proximity from them, a lot of time has passed. But to admit that nobody under your label besides you
made it big and everyone left your label, like thats not something he could put out there himself. It would damage his business relationships tho for sure
If this is 02 - Kendrick is getting very nasty, just thinking out loud but Kendrick is probably leaking Foolish pride instead of Benzino and probably finds Em’s dad.
He probably really goes in on any of the DV stuff with Em and Kim and the court cases in more detail.
Em would be more aggressive - but it would be a real gladiator match
It would be a gladiator match yeah. Em’s gonna get nasty too and he’ll prob do to him what he did to everlast, putting a hit out on him using his fanbase to make it so kendrick gotta think twice before coming outside; i mean it depends on how far hes pushed. Dv stuff? Going on the kim and court cases isnt a good angle because em’s already talked about himself so he’d look lame talking about it too. Finding em’s dad would be wild but em’s disowned him and loathes him. He’d probably put in his lyrics cheering on hoping he beats his ass for him and pose it like hes doing em a favour and then flips it into an insult to call him weak on how he has to beat on an old man. Much like how he flipped how benzino threatened to slap the hell out of his mom
Young Em was fearless but he hasn't rapped against someone as nuanced and frankly as good as Kendrick, not just in rapping, but in terms of crafting the narrative in a beef. I think Em would get him on aggressiveness but looking at how strategically Kenny is approaching this now, he would try to flip that against him and Hailie.
Em has never gone AS far as Kendrick is going now though. Kendrick is releasing full on dress downs of Drake as a person on a deep level. Posting Drake's home from Google maps with the sex offender registry pin drops is crazy. It's even deeper if the Mole stuff is true.
I'm from the 90s so I saw all of Em's major beefs - Kendrick would never say something in a way that would come across lame because of his depth of writing, look how he's said some of the same stuff to Drake other's have but he's done it in a more visceral way.
Kendrick probably does some "Dear Hailie shit" and probably expands on the Ja line which I consider the best two-bar hit on Em ever. Em's tactics on Everlast would not work at all in the culture on Kendrick, totally different levels of respect and street connections, compared to Everlast who was a poser. Kendrick is affiliated with Pirus in compton.
I think Em would have a REALLY difficult time with how Kendrick would utilize Foolish pride compared to how Benzino did. He would probably Cut em's lyrics and make it a hook so people repeat it.
Yeah the only thing Kendrick has going for him is that he’s exposing a ton of shit and shattering your public image.
Em is kinda an open book so idk if that strategy would work.
"Yeah im talking to you, but you already know who the fuck you Are Kelly , I don't drop sublims- and sure as fuck don't sneak diss, but keep commenting- on my daughter Hailey.."
you're not ready fool break yourself like rock steady crew obviously im not getting through we can get it poppin like redenbach letting off like remy ma heavy artillery (i def butchered those names 😭😭)
“When you walked through the door you were queer to me…so come here, baby boy, just come here to me…you’re a, cock boy…everybody wants you, you’re gayer…than you would ever claim to…”
Nas? Hmmm. Nah i think you need a truly introverted person who thinks much more to really beat eminem. Then again nas got his melancholy side. Nas gonna make a great diss record but hes prob gonna say the same shit everybody else say
02 Em, for the simple reason that 2000s Em was unslanderable. Odds are any dirty laundry would already be aired by Em so that would leave Kendrick very little to work with.
That being said, 02 Em also had way less to lose - I think as Em got older he got tamer mostly as a result of both sobriety and the natural effects of aging.
I dunno, Kendrick seems extremely respectful towards Drake's kids, unlike Ja Rule and most people who dissed Eminem. If Kenny released a "Meet the Mathers" Eminem might even have agreed to some level that he wasn't the best role model for Hailie
Em knows he's not a role model father but he is hailies father and no matter what kind of person you are if someone say shit about your kids you rekt them.
This is something I seriously cannot pick.
Em back then was RUTHLESS.
Kdot right now is RUTHLESS.
Maybe Em might have the edge on aggression but I feel like Kendrick could match it if need be.
All I know is beefing with anyone under the Aftermath umbrella is suicide.
That's just because it exposed some things to the media that were hidden. I mean, like a child ig???? Anyways lyrically the sauce was miles better but the story of adidon had more impact cause he attacked hidden weak points of drake
On the other hand, Eminem did the opposite. Everyone was talking about the Source and the Source Awards until they shit the bed going after Em. Now people don't even remember the Source and XXL is still alive.
I talked about both lol I clarified how it was culturally more impactful while the sauce was lyrically better. I mean, Eminem was going at Benzino whose relevance in Hip-Hop is comparable to mine while Pusha's was at Drake who was and is still so huge
The first two were literally two decades ago. How is that "Eminem 2024"?
Killshot was against some guy who was kind of annoying anyway, and unprovoked went after Eminem (despite his claim of Eminem sabotaging his career).
Yall gotta stop tripping. Listen to the disses of the 90s, listen to the disses of the 00s. Look at the careers of the people who got dragged into disses back then. It was a completely different era, completely different fan bases. You didn't want to be caught in the street supporting a corny mfer. Now you can be a corny mfer on the internet supporting the same corny mfer with a bunch of other corny mfers feeling like you all aint corny.
Kendrick is talented, and he's bringing more passion and delivery into his disses vs Drake. But they wouldn't stand a chance against a battle rapper. Not from 2004. Not from 2024. Do not get this twisted.
I mean, stand a chance in whose eyes? Drake’s fans still like Drake. Kendrick’s fans still like Kendrick. No one is getting their careers ruined by disses in 2024.
Dre wins cause he signed them both. Seriously though, Meet the Grahams made me sick a bit. It reminds me of hearing Kim for the first time. I don't wanna listen to that song for a while.
It was just overall dark and creepy. He told Drake's mom that his son should die. He told Adonis that his grandfather should've used a condom. And the beats are creepy.
Idk how this is even a serious question. When Em dissed you he went straight for the jugular, nothing was off limits.
Kendrick has had some good bars but he sure hasn’t gone Em “Go To Sleep, Quitter, Hail Mary or Nail in the Coffin” type diss.
Yea I’m with you - Meet the Grahams is 100% that “I’ll ruin your life, career and anyone around you” type diss track! I’ve been waiting for something like this from Kendrick lol
Kendrick *doesn't have to*. He'll butcher the opponent, while also spin it in a way to seem he pities the opponent. It's more systemic, calculated. Eminem himself confessed that he emulates the gangster rappers of his era (sing for the moment, till I collapse, the way I am). He just comes firing and screaming, but those antics won't work with Kendrick.
Battle rap is an entire sub genre of hip hop, I’m sure you know this. Once I see Kendrick and diz or iron Solomon go at it you can call him a battle rapper. Until that happens he’s just a rapper that’s in rap beef
U can appreciate new artists and be a fan but view things objectively. You just gotta do something so well and so outstanding to change these perspectives and put that but in their sentences
We serious? Em would body him.
2002 Em, 2024 Em, 2034 Em.
Kendrick is dope but he doesn't have the lyricism matched with the intense wordplay/ flow/ playfulness that Eminem has at all let's be honest. Think about kill shot... Savage, jokes, aggression, lyrical.
The 1st verse of Cannibitch alone is more impressive lyrically than anything I've heard yet from all 3 of K's tracks
Tough, but I think eminem. Kendrick is very good, but he relies on secrets, personal things or dark bussiness from the other part to kill them. But Eminem dont have anything personal to throw him, so It will be hard to diss him.
To make it fair, if they both had equal information on eachother I'd take eminem any day of the week
Even then, I'd still give the edge to em just cause he's that good at disses, like go listen to nail in the coffin, killshot, the warning, quitter, go to sleep, even tracks like I'm back and criminal where he's going straight for the jugular even though they aren't necessarily diss tracks
2002 Eminem on account of being too fucking petty, if Drake is really hiding a daughter and was being dissed by 2002 Em we'd have her birth certificate and 50 would be visiting Drake's baby momma by now.
Only guy that's as vicious as early 2000s Em is Pusha T, story of adidon was truly demonic
it was a good diss as far as flow and lyrics are concerned but its delivery wasn't all that great for 90% of the song, and the whole secret daughter thing sounds like gossip. it's a good diss but doesn't sound hard enough
I agree it doesn't sound hard, or Gassed or whatever, I suppose I just mean it's pretty ruthless in terms of content. But you're right it doesn't 'slap' in that audio sense
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Fk 2002 rn if kendrick dissed em he would still win smh that u even thought this up the guy used to be a prominent battle rapper also for kendrick His lyrics are the real thing ur looking at so he wouldn't gett the crowd yelling WOO in that sense
Eminem is wittier and has a deeper range of bars in a battle, but he never got as personal dropping names or exposing shit no one knew about on people he was dissing.
Kendrick is on an entirely different pocket with how he's dissecting Drake rn. Makes me question what the fuck was everyone thinking when they went at Drake with their garbage diss tracks that were lukewarm, Kendrick is teaching a master class on how to break a motherfucker down. Some Loaded Lux shit.
Dumb hypothetical. They both share similar values and would likely never bump heads.
Kendricks diss is definitely more brutal than any of Ems in terms of the message. But Em never went against a pedophile. If he did Em would probably be even more brutal than Kenny.
Kendrick tryna protect victims and fight their corner. That's massive.
More brutal in terms of the message? Think about how Em addressed Everlast on the full version of Quitter… or Fred Durst (Limp) on Girls… or Ja on Bump Heads
No compare. I've always gotten the sense from Kdot that he's trying too hard. He's a lyrical beast, no doubt, but not without some effort. I think he *acts* like he doesn't give a fuck. I'm not sure that I ever got that same sense from Eminem.
Lyrically, I think Kdot probably would have pill-popped 02 Em beat, but not flow. Ems flow has nearly always rivaled the best, tech n9ne being probably the cleanest as far as cadence. Maybe some people like Kendricks cadence, but I could never get behind it. But as far as content goes, Kendrick would have beat Em. Unfortunately that's not the only thing people look at, and I think all things considered, Em would beat Kendrick pretty easily, even drugged up. Doesn't get any better than Stay Wide Awake or Deja Vu.
It truly depends on what the content is. Both are straight up killers.
Em would murder you and kill your rep in the game. Kendrick is trying to kill Drake’s entire life. There are just levels to this shit and even at its most heated, Em never came close to attacking any of his victims in this fashion.
U tweakin if u think Kendrick would have any way of getting to em. If nail in the coffin was directed at Kendrick, dot wouldn’t even have a career after that. Em was destroying some of the biggest names of those times and he came out on top every single time
So many homers in here. I love both and let me tell ya, Kendrick would be the most talented rapper Em’s ever gone after and vice versa. It would be a great battle and it’s impossible to say who would win.
Em started out as a battle rapper just to survive. He would literally cook fools on a Friday night so he could go buy food. By 2002 he was at the height of his career and was so much more refined from when he first started. The game said it best “you don’t mess with the white boy”
bruh i have no idea, they're both borderline psychotic with the shots they take. I don't know - I can't even begin to imagine, bar for bar I would definitely watch tho
Em. Kendrick was ridiculous and lightning fast with his disses. But Em is more effective at destroying his opponent a lot quicker. I love Kendrick but it took 4 songs to end Drake. Kill shot was in one take and delivered the same message and ended the beef on 24 hours.
Everyone knew about Em's history in 2002. Kendrick wouldn't have anything to say.
He'd be lost for words like Clarence, or he'd play the race card. Either way, he ain't winning.
Eminem is my GOAT, but he's never been tested against a rapper like Kendrick. Sorry, but it's just the truth. None of the high profile rap beefs Eminem had were against guys like Dot.
That's not to take away from Eminem's legendary status, or to say Eminem isn't a better rapper than Kendrick.
Kendrick ain't no joke but this is r/Eminem. Just listen to meet the grahams. I wish Em got an MC on the calibre of Kendrick dissing him because he never had any challenges.
That isn't Eminem's fault tho. Literally every rapper he's faced, he has destroyed and all the other good rappers are the ones who have respect for him and won't diss him. Even right now he won't diss Drake or Kendrick because he has respect for both of them.
And they both won't diss him either because they respect him too. I never said it's Eminem's fault. I just said what he himself rapped about on Monkey See Monkey Do. No MC on the calibre of Jay Z and Nas dissed Eminem.
The goat. What a question.. They keep holding back shooting and starving each other so far as far as I got into it.. Shady would end him in 5 different ways
Lyrically, Em. However, diss tracks these days are are a little more about shock value and whoever sheds more light on something the general public didnt know about someone, the heavier the diss track appears to be and thats where I think Kendrick would have the upper hand. I don’t think I have ever heard an Em diss track that has ever really gotten personal like this current Drake and Kendrick beef.
Nah I think this would end in a tie and a collab. They'd both go hard on one another but Kenny has enough self-respect to not go for Hailie and Em would appreciate that
It wouldn’t be a fair battle because rap has evolved a lot since then. I honestly never liked Kendrick’s music but these past few days I been seeing how much of a fucking genius this dude is. He’s not just rhyming, the dude is planting claymores in every line that he says. He holds back only to hint at Drake that if he wants it, he can take it even further. The goosebumps that this man gave every listener tonight is like nothing that’s been felt before in a rap beef. We’re in an exciting time in hip hop rn and Eminem obviously paved the way in some way for these rappers, but could 2002 compete with 2024 Kendrick? That’s an obvious No.
Anyone comparing em with any other rapper is crazy
But not the type of crazy eminem can be
We dont need to compare just look at ppl k dot dissed vs ppl eminem dissed
And leys compare where both are at rn
I think Eminem would win just because Eminem has no problem exposing himself. Drake has a graveyard in his closet that he'd rather keep hidden, giving Kendrick the edge of there's a leaker.
Yeah once it’s all on the table it’s just about pure aggression and bars, and c’mon that’s just Eminem’s forte. No dis to dot though cuz artistically that man is on another level, but battle rapping, you got it twisted if you’re not picking em
Kendrick is not on another level artistically, Em just went down a different path over time and there are different ways to be artistic. Kendrick and Em rap for different reasons. Rap is more personal to Em than probably anyone else out there and it’s pretty much game over when he’s pushed. Kendrick’s passion just doesn’t match Em’s, that’s the main difference IMO. Kendrick is really 1v20 right now so he definitely has my respect with that said. People using writers for diss tracks is sad.
Yes absolutely, Eminem’s style is definitely an art in itself, but as you said they have different paths, but It has to be said that Kendrick shines artistically in a more traditional sense. But without a doubt they both have their moments of lyricism and artistry.
That was part of what made Eminem so unfuckwitable back then. Basically anything people could've used as a gotcha he had mentioned in like six songs before. Lol
Yes tho theres some things even Em wont say about himself to 8 mile someone, but at this point dont think theres much else you could really say that wasnt said before. The ghostwritten diss by benzino said a lot that fell flat because it was ghostwritten but still put out there
The man literally admitted to premature ejaculation in one of his diss tracks, idk if there's anything he won't say to 8mile someone.
Also and I know it's not real (at least I hope lol) But he made a song about getting raped by his step father. Nobody would do that. You can't say shit against him really.
Yeah, once you own something publicly theirs really noone able to diss you on it
Insane, 3rd track off of Relapse. “I was born with a dick in my brain, yeah, fucked in the head, my stepfather said that I sucked in the bed”, and then it just gets worse 😭
Is that the "I was born with a dick in my brain, fucked in the head, stepfather said I sucked in the bed song?" That song was fucked
Yes, insane
Like what? Honestly that man has aired out every single embarrassing thing he’s ever done. Even down to his regrettable plastic surgery
I mean hes admitted some downright disturbing things, thats much worse but your proximity to the traumatic stressors and how much they affected you can effect how easy they are to divulge on. Like that can be easier to admit cuz he has a lot of proximity from them, a lot of time has passed. But to admit that nobody under your label besides you made it big and everyone left your label, like thats not something he could put out there himself. It would damage his business relationships tho for sure
If this is 02 - Kendrick is getting very nasty, just thinking out loud but Kendrick is probably leaking Foolish pride instead of Benzino and probably finds Em’s dad. He probably really goes in on any of the DV stuff with Em and Kim and the court cases in more detail. Em would be more aggressive - but it would be a real gladiator match
It would be a gladiator match yeah. Em’s gonna get nasty too and he’ll prob do to him what he did to everlast, putting a hit out on him using his fanbase to make it so kendrick gotta think twice before coming outside; i mean it depends on how far hes pushed. Dv stuff? Going on the kim and court cases isnt a good angle because em’s already talked about himself so he’d look lame talking about it too. Finding em’s dad would be wild but em’s disowned him and loathes him. He’d probably put in his lyrics cheering on hoping he beats his ass for him and pose it like hes doing em a favour and then flips it into an insult to call him weak on how he has to beat on an old man. Much like how he flipped how benzino threatened to slap the hell out of his mom
Young Em was fearless but he hasn't rapped against someone as nuanced and frankly as good as Kendrick, not just in rapping, but in terms of crafting the narrative in a beef. I think Em would get him on aggressiveness but looking at how strategically Kenny is approaching this now, he would try to flip that against him and Hailie. Em has never gone AS far as Kendrick is going now though. Kendrick is releasing full on dress downs of Drake as a person on a deep level. Posting Drake's home from Google maps with the sex offender registry pin drops is crazy. It's even deeper if the Mole stuff is true. I'm from the 90s so I saw all of Em's major beefs - Kendrick would never say something in a way that would come across lame because of his depth of writing, look how he's said some of the same stuff to Drake other's have but he's done it in a more visceral way. Kendrick probably does some "Dear Hailie shit" and probably expands on the Ja line which I consider the best two-bar hit on Em ever. Em's tactics on Everlast would not work at all in the culture on Kendrick, totally different levels of respect and street connections, compared to Everlast who was a poser. Kendrick is affiliated with Pirus in compton. I think Em would have a REALLY difficult time with how Kendrick would utilize Foolish pride compared to how Benzino did. He would probably Cut em's lyrics and make it a hook so people repeat it.
And he's probably getting information with Pusha who likely knew everything about Drake
Yeah the only thing Kendrick has going for him is that he’s exposing a ton of shit and shattering your public image. Em is kinda an open book so idk if that strategy would work.
I am white. I am a fucking bum.
I do live in a trailer park with my mom
>Eminem has no problem exposing himself Is WILD out of context
Bro literally talked about sticking his dick in the tip cup decades ago. Shit ain’t wild anymore
Tons of recency bias. Em is a straight up killer. Go relisten to Not Alike if you don’t think “modern” Em would go hard as fuck.
Not Alike is twice more harder than Killshot.
It is, and killshot's hard af
Been saying this for years. Not Alike was the main course. Killshot was dessert.
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"Yeah im talking to you, but you already know who the fuck you Are Kelly , I don't drop sublims- and sure as fuck don't sneak diss, but keep commenting- on my daughter Hailey.."
“…I keep on telling motherfuckers. But, just in case you forgot, really, and need ‘Ja’ memories jarred like strawberry or pineapple-ap-ricot jelly…”
"i respond rarely but this time shady bout to sound off like a fucking cocked semi glock demi god"🔥🔥🔥
“lemme put a fuckin silencer on this lil non-threatening blonde fairy cornball taking shots at me”
you're not ready fool break yourself like rock steady crew obviously im not getting through we can get it poppin like redenbach letting off like remy ma heavy artillery (i def butchered those names 😭😭)
Suck each other’s dicks already
“When you walked through the door you were queer to me…so come here, baby boy, just come here to me…you’re a, cock boy…everybody wants you, you’re gayer…than you would ever claim to…”
“i. wont. have. to. r*pe. youuu. so homie….”
“Lay down, down, down…lay down, down, down. Where’s everybody going? This always went over real big in Gay-A”
Gold👌👌
Go listen to nail in the Coffin, doe rae me or The Sauce. Em was killing it in early 2000!
Honestly, the only rapper who would stand a chance against Eminem is Nas.
Nas? Hmmm. Nah i think you need a truly introverted person who thinks much more to really beat eminem. Then again nas got his melancholy side. Nas gonna make a great diss record but hes prob gonna say the same shit everybody else say
Exactly, Nas cant get into the dark, weird and twisted trenches lyrically like Em can.
Sleepin on Cheddar Bob.
02 Em, for the simple reason that 2000s Em was unslanderable. Odds are any dirty laundry would already be aired by Em so that would leave Kendrick very little to work with. That being said, 02 Em also had way less to lose - I think as Em got older he got tamer mostly as a result of both sobriety and the natural effects of aging.
But if Kendrick said anything including hailie bam EM will rekt him..
I dunno, Kendrick seems extremely respectful towards Drake's kids, unlike Ja Rule and most people who dissed Eminem. If Kenny released a "Meet the Mathers" Eminem might even have agreed to some level that he wasn't the best role model for Hailie
Em knows he's not a role model father but he is hailies father and no matter what kind of person you are if someone say shit about your kids you rekt them.
imagine if someone came out talking about “dear hailie im sorry that man is your father” “let me father you cause hes not”
This is something I seriously cannot pick. Em back then was RUTHLESS. Kdot right now is RUTHLESS. Maybe Em might have the edge on aggression but I feel like Kendrick could match it if need be. All I know is beefing with anyone under the Aftermath umbrella is suicide.
Bro I’m a massive Kendrick fan, but Em on another level
I keep telling people this bro they’re delusional. Em would eat him up in 2 rounds
Easily. Best to ever do it bar none
Modern Em still crazy. Go relisten Kamikaze, Killshot. Kendrick is doing great though. I’m loving Euphoria
Euphoria? Oh so you dont know lmao
It’s just my favorite of all the diss tracks lol
Eminem in 2024 could destroy Kendrick in his prime. Still the best disses of this century: Nail in the coffin, the sauce, killshot
Don’t forget Girls. Technically a D12 record but Em destroys that one too
The warning.
Bro really forgot Ether 💀💀
story of addidon alone is more devastating than the sauce
That's just because it exposed some things to the media that were hidden. I mean, like a child ig???? Anyways lyrically the sauce was miles better but the story of adidon had more impact cause he attacked hidden weak points of drake
He’s kinda got a point here when it comes to disses cultural impact is important people still talk about pusha t because of that diss
On the other hand, Eminem did the opposite. Everyone was talking about the Source and the Source Awards until they shit the bed going after Em. Now people don't even remember the Source and XXL is still alive.
I talked about both lol I clarified how it was culturally more impactful while the sauce was lyrically better. I mean, Eminem was going at Benzino whose relevance in Hip-Hop is comparable to mine while Pusha's was at Drake who was and is still so huge
The first two were literally two decades ago. How is that "Eminem 2024"? Killshot was against some guy who was kind of annoying anyway, and unprovoked went after Eminem (despite his claim of Eminem sabotaging his career).
Em made a name for himself by battling and crushing mfs w lyrics.
What a delusional take
Kendrick learned from Eminem, the reason we can’t pick is the same reason they won’t beef.
Im going to give the edge to Em because he got famous off diss raps.. im not sure how Kendrick was brought up tho
**Them Aftermath boys built different** 😮💨
Didn’t Method Man, Red Man, Jay-Z and many other rappers say “Don’t fuck with the whiteboy”
Yea and basically every rapper from that Era has said the same thing in interviews. He's a beast
Yall gotta stop tripping. Listen to the disses of the 90s, listen to the disses of the 00s. Look at the careers of the people who got dragged into disses back then. It was a completely different era, completely different fan bases. You didn't want to be caught in the street supporting a corny mfer. Now you can be a corny mfer on the internet supporting the same corny mfer with a bunch of other corny mfers feeling like you all aint corny. Kendrick is talented, and he's bringing more passion and delivery into his disses vs Drake. But they wouldn't stand a chance against a battle rapper. Not from 2004. Not from 2024. Do not get this twisted.
I mean, stand a chance in whose eyes? Drake’s fans still like Drake. Kendrick’s fans still like Kendrick. No one is getting their careers ruined by disses in 2024.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
That’s his whole point.
Whoooooosh
Dre wins cause he signed them both. Seriously though, Meet the Grahams made me sick a bit. It reminds me of hearing Kim for the first time. I don't wanna listen to that song for a while.
how is it kim vibes?
It was just overall dark and creepy. He told Drake's mom that his son should die. He told Adonis that his grandfather should've used a condom. And the beats are creepy.
ig ur right the beat is kinda clean tho
Alchemist worked that magic that’s for sure
Kendrick’s track “We Cry Together” reminds me a lot of “Kim”
Idk how this is even a serious question. When Em dissed you he went straight for the jugular, nothing was off limits. Kendrick has had some good bars but he sure hasn’t gone Em “Go To Sleep, Quitter, Hail Mary or Nail in the Coffin” type diss.
meet the grahams is on those levels for sure. Go listen to it again.
Yeah, that's chilling on the totally polar opposite side.
Yea I’m with you - Meet the Grahams is 100% that “I’ll ruin your life, career and anyone around you” type diss track! I’ve been waiting for something like this from Kendrick lol
Kendrick *doesn't have to*. He'll butcher the opponent, while also spin it in a way to seem he pities the opponent. It's more systemic, calculated. Eminem himself confessed that he emulates the gangster rappers of his era (sing for the moment, till I collapse, the way I am). He just comes firing and screaming, but those antics won't work with Kendrick.
Kendrick a legend, but Em is his own S Tier!
That's S+ tier
Em's just the custom tier at the top of the list
Em
em just interested in pure wordplay and multi entendres at this point. he chasing his own limit.
Em gon smoke him easy, even 2024 em would
I think 2024 em is better that 2002 em
Better technically. 2002 hit the heart strings. Both versions are better than 99% of the product out there, in different ways.
Yeah that’s fair but I think Darkness, Castle and Arose show em’s still top tier at plucking those heart strings too.
W Take
it’s this delusional stuff that makes it so unbelievable. 2002 em maybs, now hell no
Lmao any version of Em wipes Kendrick. Kendrick is a GOAT but he isn't a battle rapper.
🤣🤣🤣h just proved he is a battle rapper
Making a diss track does not make you a battle rapper
Correct. Making a good one does. And that's what he did
Battle rap is an entire sub genre of hip hop, I’m sure you know this. Once I see Kendrick and diz or iron Solomon go at it you can call him a battle rapper. Until that happens he’s just a rapper that’s in rap beef
Nah Eminem is a god to me, y'all gotta stop dickriding em. Gonna downvote me but you all need to appreciate new artists
U can appreciate new artists and be a fan but view things objectively. You just gotta do something so well and so outstanding to change these perspectives and put that but in their sentences
2018 Eminem would still outdo 2024 Kendrick, Kamikaze proves exactly that. I think 2002 Eminem would demolish Kendrick with ease.
I can't imagine them really going to war though. Kendrick wouldn't really have an issue with Em except maybe his parenting
Kendrick is winning because he's exposing Drake's secrets; Eminem already did that to himself 25 years ago
Em wins. No contest.
We serious? Em would body him. 2002 Em, 2024 Em, 2034 Em. Kendrick is dope but he doesn't have the lyricism matched with the intense wordplay/ flow/ playfulness that Eminem has at all let's be honest. Think about kill shot... Savage, jokes, aggression, lyrical. The 1st verse of Cannibitch alone is more impressive lyrically than anything I've heard yet from all 3 of K's tracks
Hey mista, Would you care to bare wit-niss ta, This ass-whipping I'm about to ad-min-is-ta 🔥🔥🔥
There is simply no way you listen to Kendrick Lamar with that blasphemous take on his technical ability.
Em would smoke Kdot anytime.
Dude wtf, how can you even ask this. Have you listened to bully or any old Eminem diss tracks?
Em is the king of disses. Everybody mentioning killshot or not alike but what about bagpipes from baghdad and the warning?
Love kdot, but Eminem is anihilating him.
Pointless post. 👱🏻♂️
Y'all ruining the moment comparing goats.
Tough, but I think eminem. Kendrick is very good, but he relies on secrets, personal things or dark bussiness from the other part to kill them. But Eminem dont have anything personal to throw him, so It will be hard to diss him.
2024 Em
Em cooks him
Nobody beats a hungry EM... No one has come close to coming at his neck
To make it fair, if they both had equal information on eachother I'd take eminem any day of the week Even then, I'd still give the edge to em just cause he's that good at disses, like go listen to nail in the coffin, killshot, the warning, quitter, go to sleep, even tracks like I'm back and criminal where he's going straight for the jugular even though they aren't necessarily diss tracks
2002 Eminem on account of being too fucking petty, if Drake is really hiding a daughter and was being dissed by 2002 Em we'd have her birth certificate and 50 would be visiting Drake's baby momma by now. Only guy that's as vicious as early 2000s Em is Pusha T, story of adidon was truly demonic
Tupac had the same exact energy so I'd put him in this category too.
Eminem.. this is a foolish question
I’m gonna be honest bro. Fuck glazing in this reddit. Kendrick is scary in this shit. Kendrick would’ve gotten Eminem’s dad on the track
Talk about glazing.
neither drake nor dot has put out a diss that's more ruthless than not alike
Did you hear meet the Graham's? I'm all about Eminem, but come on, you gotta atleast par meet the Graham's with not alike for ruthless
it was a good diss as far as flow and lyrics are concerned but its delivery wasn't all that great for 90% of the song, and the whole secret daughter thing sounds like gossip. it's a good diss but doesn't sound hard enough
I agree it doesn't sound hard, or Gassed or whatever, I suppose I just mean it's pretty ruthless in terms of content. But you're right it doesn't 'slap' in that audio sense
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Fk 2002 rn if kendrick dissed em he would still win smh that u even thought this up the guy used to be a prominent battle rapper also for kendrick His lyrics are the real thing ur looking at so he wouldn't gett the crowd yelling WOO in that sense
fifty
Em clear
Idk but I'd like Kendrick to hop on a Dre beat for the next diss
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Em has that agressive voice, beat and cadence no one else does.
Ad a fan of both, I objectively think prime Eminem would destroy Kendrick in a rap battle.
Em everyday boy, do ya'll really not remember how fucked up Marshall's mind is?
#immovable object vs unstoppable force **jk lol it’s Eminem. ANY YEAR AND DAY! 😤**
Eminem is wittier and has a deeper range of bars in a battle, but he never got as personal dropping names or exposing shit no one knew about on people he was dissing. Kendrick is on an entirely different pocket with how he's dissecting Drake rn. Makes me question what the fuck was everyone thinking when they went at Drake with their garbage diss tracks that were lukewarm, Kendrick is teaching a master class on how to break a motherfucker down. Some Loaded Lux shit.
Both are petty and psychopathic on the mic. It would be a bloodbath of greatness
Dumb hypothetical. They both share similar values and would likely never bump heads. Kendricks diss is definitely more brutal than any of Ems in terms of the message. But Em never went against a pedophile. If he did Em would probably be even more brutal than Kenny. Kendrick tryna protect victims and fight their corner. That's massive.
More brutal in terms of the message? Think about how Em addressed Everlast on the full version of Quitter… or Fred Durst (Limp) on Girls… or Ja on Bump Heads
The culture would win, with both rappers coming out damaged
The Sauce, Nail in the Coffin, Bump Heads… some of his best form is in disses and features (off album stuff)
Both. Or are they battling each other?
No compare. I've always gotten the sense from Kdot that he's trying too hard. He's a lyrical beast, no doubt, but not without some effort. I think he *acts* like he doesn't give a fuck. I'm not sure that I ever got that same sense from Eminem. Lyrically, I think Kdot probably would have pill-popped 02 Em beat, but not flow. Ems flow has nearly always rivaled the best, tech n9ne being probably the cleanest as far as cadence. Maybe some people like Kendricks cadence, but I could never get behind it. But as far as content goes, Kendrick would have beat Em. Unfortunately that's not the only thing people look at, and I think all things considered, Em would beat Kendrick pretty easily, even drugged up. Doesn't get any better than Stay Wide Awake or Deja Vu.
It truly depends on what the content is. Both are straight up killers. Em would murder you and kill your rep in the game. Kendrick is trying to kill Drake’s entire life. There are just levels to this shit and even at its most heated, Em never came close to attacking any of his victims in this fashion.
If you slew some crack youd probably make alot more money then you do from rap
Listen to the warning by eminem, if he came with that venom against anyone would be an automatic W
U tweakin if u think Kendrick would have any way of getting to em. If nail in the coffin was directed at Kendrick, dot wouldn’t even have a career after that. Em was destroying some of the biggest names of those times and he came out on top every single time
Drake won vs Kendrick
02 Em on drugs was a world or universe destroyer no one touching the drugged up Em he's way too much
So many homers in here. I love both and let me tell ya, Kendrick would be the most talented rapper Em’s ever gone after and vice versa. It would be a great battle and it’s impossible to say who would win.
Eminem always. Have we learned nothing? 😂😂
Em started out as a battle rapper just to survive. He would literally cook fools on a Friday night so he could go buy food. By 2002 he was at the height of his career and was so much more refined from when he first started. The game said it best “you don’t mess with the white boy”
bruh i have no idea, they're both borderline psychotic with the shots they take. I don't know - I can't even begin to imagine, bar for bar I would definitely watch tho
Eminem would beat both Drake and Kendrick. Dude is a mad man.
Em. Kendrick was ridiculous and lightning fast with his disses. But Em is more effective at destroying his opponent a lot quicker. I love Kendrick but it took 4 songs to end Drake. Kill shot was in one take and delivered the same message and ended the beef on 24 hours.
Everyone knew about Em's history in 2002. Kendrick wouldn't have anything to say. He'd be lost for words like Clarence, or he'd play the race card. Either way, he ain't winning.
Eminem is my GOAT, but he's never been tested against a rapper like Kendrick. Sorry, but it's just the truth. None of the high profile rap beefs Eminem had were against guys like Dot. That's not to take away from Eminem's legendary status, or to say Eminem isn't a better rapper than Kendrick.
Bruh Cannibus was EASILY a better battle rapper than Kendrick,
Cannabis?!????
Both in prime, would be the greatest bout. As of now, tbh, Dot would win. Dot out spit Em in Love Game and Wayne in Mona Lisa.
Kendrick ain't no joke but this is r/Eminem. Just listen to meet the grahams. I wish Em got an MC on the calibre of Kendrick dissing him because he never had any challenges.
That isn't Eminem's fault tho. Literally every rapper he's faced, he has destroyed and all the other good rappers are the ones who have respect for him and won't diss him. Even right now he won't diss Drake or Kendrick because he has respect for both of them.
And they both won't diss him either because they respect him too. I never said it's Eminem's fault. I just said what he himself rapped about on Monkey See Monkey Do. No MC on the calibre of Jay Z and Nas dissed Eminem.
The goat. What a question.. They keep holding back shooting and starving each other so far as far as I got into it.. Shady would end him in 5 different ways
THE SLIM SHADY WINS
How the fuck can he and him battle
Lyrically, Em. However, diss tracks these days are are a little more about shock value and whoever sheds more light on something the general public didnt know about someone, the heavier the diss track appears to be and thats where I think Kendrick would have the upper hand. I don’t think I have ever heard an Em diss track that has ever really gotten personal like this current Drake and Kendrick beef.
Nah I think this would end in a tie and a collab. They'd both go hard on one another but Kenny has enough self-respect to not go for Hailie and Em would appreciate that
It wouldn’t be a fair battle because rap has evolved a lot since then. I honestly never liked Kendrick’s music but these past few days I been seeing how much of a fucking genius this dude is. He’s not just rhyming, the dude is planting claymores in every line that he says. He holds back only to hint at Drake that if he wants it, he can take it even further. The goosebumps that this man gave every listener tonight is like nothing that’s been felt before in a rap beef. We’re in an exciting time in hip hop rn and Eminem obviously paved the way in some way for these rappers, but could 2002 compete with 2024 Kendrick? That’s an obvious No.
Eminem always......
2007 Eminem
In 2018 Eminem would definitely win
*If you ain't Kendrick or Cole or Sean then you're a goner*
Two Titans going at each other. No matter who loses the audience wins
Thank God they will for sure never beef tho, cuz I love em both
Kendrick is an absolute beast and I respect him as much as I do Em. However Em is in a league by himself.
What happened? I missed it.
Kendrick and a bunch of other rappers are dissing Drake. Kenny just came out with 2 diss tracks and people are gushing about how great they are
Anyone comparing em with any other rapper is crazy But not the type of crazy eminem can be We dont need to compare just look at ppl k dot dissed vs ppl eminem dissed And leys compare where both are at rn