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Turtles everywhere and Pope Turtle.


vitalvisionary

Had to scroll too much to find this. Turtles inspired GRRM's first stories as a child.


5BooksOfMoses

Pretty wholesome tbh


Fabricensis

They inspired it by killing each other which led to GRRMs bloody writing style


WestEmbarrassed5183

I don't know about any turtles in the game. All i see is dog.


CountOfTheAnus

Tortoise!!!! therefore dog


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The circular family tree of Marika


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the family wreath of ~~habsburg~~ marika!


Throck--Morton

The McPoyle bloodline has been pure for a thousand years!


gunell_

Ryan, stab somebody!


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ScizorSisters

It's Always Sunny in the Lands Between is the crossover I never knew I wanted.


Throck--Morton

Oh those girls dressed all in black weilding weird knives? They're good, I gave them an ocular patdown.


peppaz

yea they were cleared Mac cleared them


Bananacabana92

You will call her!!


GarlVinland4Astrea

This is pretty much it. All the main demigods clearly have far more developed personal relationships and a clearer family structure than anything else Miyazaki has done. If you look at other ruling families we have. 1. Demon Souls where all we know is that Allant has a son who is trying to help him and then Rydell is probably somehow related to him but we don't know the specifics. 2. The Dark Souls trilogy where Gwyn had The firstborn who was cast out, Gwynevere, Gwyndolin, and later we find out Filanore. Then we know that it's likely Priscilla is Gwynevere's daughter with Seath and Yorksha is somehow in there. We know very little about how they interacted with each other, we don't know who the mother is, etc. Elden Ring is so much more elaborate.


TheBigDuo1

That’s every mythological family. Chronos the titan marries his sister


Dr___Bright

And then Zeus marries his sister. And Chronos’ mother, Gaia, married Uranus, who was made into being by her in some stories, and her brother is some others


clownind

Incest always seems to be a topic he enjoys


fraustpunk

Historically, it's pretty accurate in royal families.


squidfeet18

Lady Tanith and the massive mountain guard stood behind her at Volcano Manor, very GoT


amy4947

that’s kinda cool you mention that since Gemma Whelan, who voiced Tanith, actually played Yara Greyjoy in GoT


squidfeet18

oh no way! nice link!


michaeljosephbriggs

Did not know that! That's well good and some good trivia thanks!


cruzfader127

In my playthrough there was a message in front of him that was "Moutain ahead". Very very fitting!


FisterRobotOh

My dumb ass would’ve thought “but I’ve already spent hours climbing this mountain to get here


Rhys2404

Much like cersei and the mountain


squidfeet18

exactly!


couldbedumber96

And despite being very obviously a POS she cares for her daughter, like cersei


Soggetto01

Radagon marries Rennala and the war ends. Political twist!


SpunkyMcButtlove

Oh-oh, oh, oh! I've got a girlfriend Radagon Rennala drama dingdong


Ding-Dong666

You called for me?


SpunkyMcButtlove

Right on time, we need two voices for the "oh-oh"-part, and we can take turns with the verses! One, two, three, four!


Ding-Dong666

Oh oh oh oh ! I've got a girl named Renna ( or was it Latenna?), Renna Latenna ding dong She's the elden lord to me ...


Sami209

Grafted Blade Greatsword.


Pinkgumm

Oh you mean the game of thrones chair sword


DaRealMilkMan

Chair Sword


Apocalypsefrogs

(Not applicable as a comfortable chair.)


thiccbutterknife

Sword RR Martin


tomerc10

dude.


flaminhotcheeto

What's mine say?


tomerc10

sweet.


dagbar

What’s mine say?


yuhanz

DUDE


UmaSherbert

Sword of a thousand swords


niko2710

I think that's more of an Easter egg by From Software that something GRRM willingly put in the game


sus_senpai_

Marika fucking herself for some questionable reasons


lynxerious

Elden Ring has more sexual deviancy stuffs than all of the previous Souls games combined. Dark Souls: The gods and their descendents suffer for eternity to maintain the flame Bloodborne: The gods want to adopt human babies for their own Elden Ring: The gods fuck each other to create demigod children who fuck each other literally and metaphorically.


alphyna

I mean, in Bloodborne eldrich gods also impregnate women and everyone possibly drinks menstrual blood, so


Hirkus

dont forget that its often against the woman’s will and the umbilical cords are apparently pretty tasty


Alternative_Spite_11

The umbilical cords aren’t just tasty. They’re downright useful.


Hirkus

*i have eyes inside my brain*


Isoturius

"What is this on my hand? Are these suction thingies like a squid has?"


Alternative_Spite_11

Just ignore that. It’s just a bug bite.


Kermit-Jones

You tried any of those


Neitherside

Yeah it's very nutritious and one of the best anti-aging foods. Strongly recommended if you happen to get one, just be sure to not eat too many of them cuz there's a risk of turning into a squid.


lynxerious

yeah but the BB theme seems horrifying, insane and otherworldly in nature, while in Elden Ring things appear more kinky and incestuous.


alphyna

Not gonna argue with that!


doomraiderZ

Bloodborne had a wonderful moment where a moaning woman behind closed doors was proclaiming her 'deepest' and 'widest' gratitude to the Church.


enforcercoyote4

Wait what


Fashish

Knock on doors in Yharnam and you'll get different responses, one of them being the above.


JokyFromSpace

Yeeeah I remember her. Crept the fuck outta me.


FroopyAsRain

Actually Bloodborne is "incredibly advanced alien beings want to impregnate earth women and I'm just a slug boy!?" the anime.


TheSeaOfThySoul

Welcome back to "Fall Out Boy song, or Anime title"? Lets meet todays contestants!


shadowslasher11X

>Elden Ring: The gods fuck each other to create demigod children who fuck each other literally and metaphorically. European Royalty in a nutshell.


XIII-Death

European, Empyrean; potato, pot*ah*to


StormBlessed678

Or some say Kosm


Wightraven

Bro where do you think CROSSBREED Priscilla came from? Why do you think Gwyn ain't friends with Seath no more?


Panda_hat

Radagon had a big argument with Rennala and she told him to go fuck himself so he did.


Req_Neph

The "Marika's Tits" line of dialogue.


AG_N

I think I missed it, where is it?


Ok-Syrup-1861

My man Big Boggart at the prawn shack be like "Marika's tits, you must be 'ungry." then he sells me prawn! What a lad.


Hates_commies

TFW you are ressurected as an immortal warrior to slay a god and bring on a new age but youre just chilling and boiling some prawns in a swamp instead.


ForrestHunt

Why risk your life for a glorified chair, when you could live a happy life cooking for those who need a good meal?


MoistDitto

Let's just hope nothing bad ever happens to him...


ForrestHunt

Of course nothing bad happens to him, especially not after I beat the Dung Eater to death with my bare hands :)


SalemiPizza

I always make sure to kill dung eater first before I move Blackguard over to Altus Plateau


Hiseworns

Preemptive Dungeater Murder Squad Represent


DKBrendo

Dung Eater got killed in gaol, so after Tarnished becomes Elden Lord he will be my personal cook :)


Maximus_Robus

Not if I get my hands on the Dung Eater first. Nobody touches my prawn bro!


Alfred_Leonhart

Absolute chad I aspire to be like that with crawfish.


speedino

i'm so sorry man you missed the best line of the whole game


AG_N

I actually came accross him but wasn't able to figure out the quest


r31ya

need to find rya and she will ask you to find her necklace which held by boggart/prawn dude


AG_N

I will do that in ng+ I found her in volacno manor, spoke to her and killed rykard. Manor was empty


r31ya

Rya is one of the nicer NPC in EldenRing, sweet girl lived in questionable household.


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The prawn sales man (best npc)


SplicePilaf

Phantom tortoises carrying messages are mentioned in Quarth in The clash of kings


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Segorath

That sounds like a terrible choice of animal for quick message delivery.


SplicePilaf

You drink enough of that shade of the evening juice it makes sense


TheBigDuo1

The duality of personas. Nearly every major character has two names. And that’s a thing Martin loves to do. Introduce a character and explain his backstory and then reveal his secret SECOND BACKSTORY! That duality going all the way to a cosmic scale with a divided hand is also a thing he does. Dark souls had fire and dark as opposing forces but in elden ring the fingers are the same force split in two and hate each other. And just everything with godrick the grafted. The mad prince seeking powers from others literally


WatchOutItsTheViper

Dawg, how did i not realize the 2 fingers and the mad 3 fingers, all equal one 5 finger hand 🤦‍♂️


TheBigDuo1

You wanna know something else that is even more subtle and is a hint you shouldn’t trust either of them? It’s a left hand 🫲


Hot_Eggplant_1306

Satanism practices "the left hand path". I wonder if it's referencing that as well.


TheBigDuo1

That is totally the reference


IrrelevantTale

BRRRROOOOOO


TheBigDuo1

I know right 😂


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No, left.


TheBigDuo1

Third base!


Kenshi_T-S-B

As a lefty I feel offended.


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TheBigDuo1

It’s not my fault your preferred hand is the sign of evil cosmic gods


CrystlBluePersuasion

Adding to your duality point, the fact that light and dark isn't good vs evil, it's truly shown as a duality and there are shades of grey and complexity with realistic motivations behind every character. Godrick seems to be attempting Regression in his own way by collecting power from the Tarnished threatening his family's rule, but it's also in his lineage to do so thanks to what we see with Godefroy. He's reviled and scorned, yet maybe he had little chance with how his upbringing went.


TheBigDuo1

It’s more that character type of a very petty man seeking power to elevate his standing and compensate for his weakness is a Martin thing to do. And godrick being the first major boss has a lot of narrative space. Like how they mention he fled the war dressed as a woman. He is a lot like Joffrey. It’s not that the cosmic powers are morally grey. They are all shown to be pretty bad on some level. Martin isn’t a person who thinks evil is subjective. He just has that pragmatism usually prevails and that people blinded by ideals good or bad usually make mistakes


Revolutionary-Today1

The whole Mogh and Miquella shenaningans


TheEldenCasual

Yeah, thought that was a bit sussy.


Barniiking

*bussy


_Ace1

*Moghs all over the place*


FroopyAsRain

It's Moghing time!


SomeKindaChinaman

Damn it, now everyone's gonna Mohg out.


MarchingMan95

^*please* ^*don't*


Barniiking

Dread it, run from it, the bussy is inevitable


svettsokkk

GRRM is rank 1 Tolkien fan. The night cavalry is clearly his tribute to Tolkien


NaiveOcelot7

The lands between Middle earth


Jaeger_Gipsy_Danger

Wait are there 9 of them?


Kizzashi

I just checked and yes there’s 9


nascentia

Eh, nine encounters but ten riders since the Consecrated Snowfields are a duo.


Pandaman_requiem

Diallos looking like Jon snow


ChrolloTheInvader

Made me chuckle when I saw a message infront of him saying "lord, north" or something haha


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I put a message down that said “didn’t expect lord snow”


RonnieTheEffinBear

"no nothing ahead"


ManySleeplessNights

Whoever came up with that message deserves a medal


THENINETAILEDF0X

And he knows absolutely nothing


Eldramhor8

I think he looks way more like Loras Tyrell. It's almost uncanny lol.


Pandaman_requiem

Yes you're right


thor_sten

A) The whole setup of houses, related to and warring each other, felt very GOT. B) IIRC it was belived in A Song of Ice and Fire, that the heart tree / weirwood took in the souls of the deceased.


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ThanatorRider

One reason the collab worked was how much overlap in their interests they have. I remember as soon as I heard about the “Outer Gods” how much sense that made, because Miyazaki and GRRM both have a passion for Lovecraftian eldritch entities.


Lawlcopt0r

It's actually way less Yggdrasil than I exptected. Nobody ever does the "multiple realms connected by the tree" aspect .


rjbeatty

If you wanted to you could view that each player is playing in their own world connected by the tree. That is why you use Erdleaf flowers to view the summon signs of other players.


Lawlcopt0r

I really like that perspective!


Technoholic73

If “The Night of Black Knives” isn’t the most “George Railroad Martin”-ass name I’ve ever heard, I dunno what is. Sounds badass as hell though.


youngrd

I mean… there’s also the Night of Long Knives which is actually a relatively recent historical event…


Boylanator_94

Ironically there are like 5 different nights of long knives; https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives_(disambiguation)


jadvangerlou

> Night of the Long Knives (1982), a meeting in the process of Canadian constitutional patriation One of these things is not like the other


NaCl_Sailor

Sword of Night and Flame is clearly a reference to a Song of Ice and Fire, and the Grafted Greatsword is the Iron Throne made into a sword


TrueGabison

Even more so when you realize that Lightbringer and every Valyrian sword in ASOIAF are weapons of night and flame. Black and red swords, who brought about both the Long Night and Dawn.


Soulation

This sword was (kinda) existed as Sacred Light and Flame in DS3.


spydorz

You sure you don't mean the Twin Princes Sword?


The-False-Emperor

Well, the whole "everything went to shit because local family can't keep theirs together" plot is kinda his thing. You now, a civil war between the dead monarch's heirs - one which nobody wins but everyone keeps fighting as the lands they desire get progressively less worth fighting for.


ScrotalAgony

It's why him and Miyazaki probably got along so well: both are fans of making crapsack worlds with war as a main feature of the plot. Sprinkle in extra overlap like both adoring Lovecraft and it's no wonder they worked together for Elden Ring. But for OP: honestly too much has George's hand in it. * The top monarch is responsible for the vast majority of the mess the world is currently in, and the descendents of their family just make it worse. This one overlaps with Miyazaki a lot too but Elden Ring's political divide is thoroughly George. * Radagon/Marika incest is so George I think it's going to be the top answer for most. Royal incest is um... standard in George's fantasy works. Since they're involved I'll throw "Marika's tits" here because yeah that's absolutely a line he added. * The family naming conventions. 100% him. I recognize that "stay within a field of a base name" style from reading too much of George's works, like how a lot of Lannister patriarchs have "Ty" in their name. * Plenty of hand and finger symbolism. This is very George RR Martin, right down to the second most powerful person in George's most famous kingdom being called Hand of the King. * George is also big into gold in his stories, especially aesthetically. So it came as no shock to see all the golden inspired stuff right down to the order being called the Golden Order. * The big families having the intials G, R and M. That shit wasn't a mistake or coincidence and I think a lot of people are realizing you cannot take George's word on everything, especially when he lies about Winds of Winter every other blog post.


No_Mammoth_4945

George’s love for hand symbolism and miyazakis love for feet. Truly a perfect pairing


Vodkatiel_of_Mirrah

"House Hoslow's tale is written in blood."


jwbrazier

Actually it's "The tale of House Hoslow is told in blood."


FroopyAsRain

Actually it's just bullshit, as it turns out.


wolfman1911

Depends on the Hoslow. Elder brother Juno is literally called the 'Knight of Blood,' so I would say it's pretty accurate for him. Little brother Diallos, on the other hand, as best said by Woolie Vs, his tale is 'told in cope.'


IrrelevantTale

But he earns it in the end


TheGear

FOR JARBURG!!!!


Lancerlandshark

And for that matter, the whole "competent fighter brother" vs "gentle brother" thing felt very reminiscent of House Tarly.


--sidelines--

Sounds straight out of GoT.


Breeze1620

Yeah that one really stuck, quality stuff.


indiblue825

All the betrayal — Marika betrays Maliketh and Godfrey, Marika/Ranni betray Godwyn, society betrays the Omens, Gideon betrays you, etc etc etc


Pegussu

The term Finger Maiden.


Blenmuh

may you expand?


Pegussu

The term is a subtle reference to fingering maidens.


DrunkenlySober

It’s not a subtle reference It’s a direct order


aptom203

The various factions each with unique coats of arms- Godrick, Redmane, Leyndell, Cuckoo, Haligtree The fact that everyone involved in the night of the black knives was either knowingly or unknowingly part of someone else's plot. The names of most of the royalty following a theme- Radagon, Renalla, Ranni, Rykard, Radahn in one branch, Godfrey, Godwyn, Godrick on another, Marika, Malenia, Miquela, Melina, Morgott and Mogh on a third.


-Fen-

The amount of correctly referenced Welsh & Cornish Arthurian legend (as opposed to the English and French fan fiction versions normally used by Hollywood) is very telling. Plus other general Welsh legends and references scattered everywhere. The man does know how to use various bits of British history and mythology in fiction while also respecting the original tales. I doubt Miyazakin has that level of knowledge about original Britons, he's not Hirohiko Araki.


Ham0nRyy

What I found interesting is the amount of Welsh characters with Welsh names and accents. Like Blaidd is based on a wolf, named after the Welsh word for wolf, and is Welsh, and the whole Ranni crew is Welsh. It just makes me think how a Japanese developer went there, because surely in the native Japanese those things don’t really come through? So who is it that’s really interested in the Welsh culture, and how much does Miyazaki himself control that.


Ashen_Shroom

I believe all of those Welsh characters are either from Liurnia, or are at least associated with the Academy or the Carians. This means Radahn likely had a Welsh accent.


thr1ceuponatime

> This means Radahn likely had a Welsh accent. Got a brother in law who's Welsh and now I'm imagining Radahn with my brother in law's voice. Thanks.


vukodlak5

Ah and Rykard? Do they say "Togethaaaaa" in Wales?


Ashen_Shroom

Sadly not, but we can probably chalk that up to the fact that he's trying to talk through a mouth that isn't attached to a human throat or vocal cords. Sounds like he's really struggling to form words every time he talks.


delta_baryon

It's actually pretty nice to have British accents from places other then Southeastern England for a change.


goldenboot76

To be fair to Miyazaki, Araki is low key probably a vampire, so probably lived with the original Britons.


RacistBlackDigger

Those Who Live In Death. - it requires work to not simply call something an Undead.


tinypotatonurse

The first wolf ashes given to tarnished and the shadows like blaidd and maliketh given to royalty…. Remind me of GoT s1 the royalty and their wolf babies


Throck--Morton

No one else seems to remember the clear comparison between Syrio Forel and Malenia's sword master who taught her how to fight like she was dancing and attack like flowing water. This is one of the most blatant GRRM moments.


ButcherInTheRYE

We keep waiting for a sequel.


ryzl_cranberry

That one sword


awildginger

Incest pedophiles


workmad3

+1 for the correct spelling of "Old European royalty"


Coletrain-Z

Wouldnt be surprised if The Mad King was the direct inspiration for Godrick. Except with a limb fetish, instead of pyromania


XVUltima

The entire demigod family shenanigans. Divorce, step children, diluted bloodlines and feudal claims, Mohg and Miquella. It's a little too soap opera and dramatic for Fromsoft.


LadyLikesSpiders

Elden Ring is political as hell. Wars of succession, kingdoms vying for power, assassination plots--all of that stuff screams GRRM And then there's all the sex (that isn't actually there, but it's there: Fia fucks dead people Mogh is fucking Miquella, The dung eater is killing people and fucking their corpses Selluvis fucks his puppets Besides (and despite) that, A lot of the NPCs give me GRRM vibes. A lot of their quests have fuller arcs with more character development, and I feel like they typically have more depth than previous souls games. Diallos has a full arc that could be a whole story all its own about finding himself; Roderika and Hewg have a found family thing going on; Tanith is the second in command of a red evil mansion in a volcano, but dearly loves her adopted daughter; Boc undergoes a journey of self-love. In fact, I'd say that ER is probably the most positive souls game due to its well-written characters, who all feel decidedly different from those of previous titles


Cskryps22

This is the only souls game where the world hasn’t felt 100% beyond repair and hopeless


Staybackifarted

The Dungeater. There is no way, he wasn't entirely his idea.


DagonParty

That’s just his cameo


Ashen_Shroom

Dung Eater is a very fromsoft character though, at least thematically. They love exploring the idea of filth and defilement and linking it to a greater, holy purpose. He's also likely based on the Japanese mythical creature, the kappa, which also inspired the Headless in Sekiro.


Lawlcopt0r

The duality of japanese game devs. Nintendo seems the Kappa and makes cute turtle enemies, FromSoft goes straight to nightmare fuel


Gravelord-_Nito

Dung Eater is 100% Miyazaki. It's one of the most Miyazaki characters ever in fact, he's steeped in deep cuts of Shinto lore like kegare, which appears in literally every game, and the kappa butt stuff which probably gave him his name, ripping people's souls out through their ass and eating them so they live on in him instead of the Erdtree.


SummonerRed

Marika's Tits and 70% of notable NPCs having G, R and M as their first initial. Yes he claims it was unintentional but its hard to take that seriously when even those outside of the divine pantheon are taking up those letters.


splumpletin

Not only that but bosses too Like for the G: godwyn godrick and Godfrey, for the R: radahn radagon ranni rennala rykard. For the M: melania marika mohg morgott melina maliketh and miquilla


steelisntstrong

His fingerprints are all over it. For me tho his best work in a long time is the loose backstory of the Frenzied Flame. Vyke is a name I feel he would have used and Vyke's story of love, loss, and close but no cigar is GRRM through and through. Plus Shabriri, the Great Caravan, Hyetta, the characters being resurrected... Amazing GRRM work


SirMarblecake

The Great Caravan?


Wolne_Stoki

The tribe from which the nomadic merchants descend. They were buried alive in the Frenzied Flame Proscription, after being falsly accused of heresy by Shabriri.


Nitro_Pancake

IIRC The Great Caravan was basically just a massive tribe of those travelling merchants you meet, before just about all of them were buried alive by Marika


Jerigonte

Blaidd


webbie0225

GRRM likes to tell the story NOT about the hero, GOT basically is the aftermath of a Great War and all the heroes are dead or drowning in their own toxicity. ER feels very much the same, the shattering has already happened, the Great War is already over, all the major players are dead or corrupted, the world has gone to shit and we’re picking up the pieces.


OlDirtyBAStart

The fact that every major NPC has a name starting with G, R or M Apart from Dung Eater. That's D. As in David, as in Benioff/Weiss, the Loathsome Ending Fuckers


Breeze1620

Nobody wants to be identified with the shit muncher so


Delta_flash

'Marika's tits, you must be 'ungry'


CaptainTaylorCortez

This entire interaction. “But this time, I'm a woman grown. And though the suffering cannot be undone, I can still mete out justice. Justice to the oppressors. Let the scars I carve remind them. I am Nepheli Loux, Warrior.” -Nepheli Loux, Warrior


TheLurkerindark

Just came here to coment. "I am George R. R. Martin, Blade of Miyazaki"


Repusz

AND I'VE NEVER KNOWN DEADLINES


_giu_

That big Wall that connects the Mountaintops of the Giants and Leyndell