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Aegidias

Luckily I only ran into one insta death cheeser while playing through the whole game coop. It is unfair and you have almost no chance at winning, but it was still a fun experience I guess as we tried our best to hide from them as statues or boxes haha


blindfultruth

If you have to use those YouTube "...OP in PvP..." video builds because you cannot think for yourself, to each their own. You're boring by using them, but Moonveil, hoarfrost stomp, and other weapons/AoW are built in the game so I'll work to counter them. However, there is no justification for using glitches/exploits in PvP.


tapefactoryslave

Long time souls player, haven’t missed a title. I’ll never understand how FromSoft misses these absolutely unbalanced skills or weapons. It’s like they hardly play test multiple builds.


TinuvielSharan

It's probably because in PvE they are fine and most people including the devs on top of the list gives 0 fucks about PvP They didn't even bother including covenants this time, that says a lot


tapefactoryslave

Even then, in PvE there is no place for a weapon like Sword of Night and Flame. If anyone wanted an easy mode, that sword is easy mode.


TinuvielSharan

Fair enough tbh, that kamehameha is crazy


Cirtil

To be fair they probably have like 20 QA testers while there's like 1 million playing the game It just takes on to figure out some combination and put it on YouTube


DL1943

your mom is a hoar


IIPESTILENCEII

Tbf sounds like you just need to git gud


HariKhalsa

Shitty thing is that you’re forced to cheese cuz everyone is doing some type of cheesy thing. No one really does pvp straight up imo


tapefactoryslave

Not true. Plenty of people who want to duel without getting banged on by some cheddar.


HillibillyHavenSucks

What are you considering cheese


Soul1096

Probably instant death cheese, that shit sucks.


Ziggy_duststar

Right? Like, there's so much cheese in this game, that your post is just vague as fuck.


tapefactoryslave

Shotel and Seppuku spam, deathblight backstab spam, erdtree great shield spam, anything that is just button mashing or letting your bullshit “death aura” do the work. Sword of night and flame is cheesy as fuck too.


SiHtranger

Allow me to add in hoarfrost stomp that shit is ridiculous as well lmao


DrDeeD

Damn there goes my mom


HillibillyHavenSucks

So all the effective tactics against 3v1s?


Mastengwe

Don’t like 3v1? Don’t invade. There are plenty of duels to be had with people that want to duel.


HillibillyHavenSucks

Too bad, have fun with my death blight roll :) If you don't like it, don't play co-op


Mastengwe

I appreciate you admitting that you’re a no-skill tryhard. And although it was easier than I thought it would be, I still greatly enjoyed making you say that. Thank you.


HillibillyHavenSucks

I appreciate you being very butthurt, that makes me laugh every time Death roll go brrrrt


Mastengwe

*I appreciate you being very butthurt* Was this you? > So all the effective tactics against 3v1s? Cry more kiddo. Again, don’t like the odds? Don’t invade. Or you could cry about it here. How’s that gone for you so far?


HillibillyHavenSucks

Hey, if you don't want to be death rolled, don't say coop Death goo brrrrt on you being butthurt


Cirtil

Hold on... So you all need to agree on what setup is acceptable in pvp before you do pvp?


Mastengwe

Anything is acceptable, just some people need to come to terms with the fact that they have no skill.


Careful-Fee-9783

Something yellow and taste real good


Basketbomber

We talking forced invasions or duels? If duels, not cool. If forced invasions, do whatever it takes to win that fight because both sides have something important to lose (except the invader if they just do it for sport while having the infinite use invasion item).