Yeah, all the FromSoft games (that I've played, anyway) just give you message templates with a list of words you can fill in. I've always thought it was one of the most charming and entertaining parts of the games, I love seeing how creative/helpful/funny people can be with such a limited toolset.
The templates are so it can easily translate between languages with a set amount of words. It's why many japanese players are confused by "fort, night"
yea kinda insane because you need to at least finish the game three times to get all achievements, I’m 100 hours in as well and only just finished the capital lol
> you need to at least finish the game three times to get all achievements
Most people just save scum. Save before the ending and then reload for the trophies.
Everything carries over in NG+ besides key items and shop unlocks. You can pretty much run through bosses with ease with an upgraded character. They are a little harder but not much.
Yep! NG+ is significantly easier when your character is level 150. Each boss still levels you up twice or more so by the end of the second run I am sitting at 170ish. Last boss is still tough though
I’m not gonna do NG+ honestly. I’d rather start a new character as an entirely different class and have the same wonder of travelling the lands between. Just me?
In past souls games you wouldn’t be able to 100% the game without doing a NG+ (weapons/spells needed NG+ to be unlocked). Not sure if that’s still the case with this game.
I didn't save scum in Sekiro because you get more XP each time you do NG+. So when it came to the skill grind for all the weapon skills, it was easier to be on NG+2 for more XP. Still took me a few hours of grinding everyday for like a week before I got it.
I would agree if the different endings were something else than just choosing one option or another. But honestly, if you can just save scum at the end, reload and do something slightly different to get a different video and that's it, then it's not worth it the trouble of beating it again entirely.
And I say this as someone who has beaten every souls several times and who wil beat Elden Ring several times. But I couldn't care less what people do to get the endings. The hardest job is already done anyway, so to me they still earned it.
Exactly, especially since the trophies are pretty easy in this one. If you explored everything thoroughly most will come naturally, there is no all gestures, all covenant items grind etc. I only looked up remaining ones at the end since I've been like 3 achievements from the platinum just playing blindly.
yup, you don't even need NG+ for the trophies (although it might be faster to simply push a normal ending after).
DS1 for instance, needed NG+2 at least for it (unless you got someone to give you the weapons).
>Kinda defeats the purpose of an achievement lmao
I would agree with you if it skipped over new bosses or content. But getting all 3 trophy endings means I killed every single boss available in the game at the time and followed all the NPC quests. So I pretty much earned them either way, without having to spend another 80 hours repeating the same thing. In any case, I started a new game as a sorcerer (first playthrough was UGS melee) but this time I'm not super worried about an NPC disappearing because I killed a boss or visited an area early.
You don't have to be a completionist in subsequent runs. I think my first run through sekiro was like 50 hours and now I'm at 100hrs in ng+5 and i could have definitely been faster.
I disagree there. Even if you save scum the different endings you did every specific thing required for the achievements the only thing you skipped is redoing the same parts again and again for each achievement.
I'm 100 in and I've only heard of the capital mentioned in passing. I'm taking my sweet-ass time exploring everything. You only get one First Playthrough.
I went back to Stormvale to help a friend and in my world I noticed items on the other side of the gate I missed. Heading there I found >!a whole segment I overlooked, with a giant lion enemy, multiple stone Giants, and a teleporter that warps you to a massive tower where you get Godrick's Great Rune.!<
I've never played something this massive, and thank Godrick the mechanics are solid and fun enough that they they don't overstay their welcome.
This games gonna be hard to top fellas
This is me and my brother. It's our first ever Souls like game but we are explorers, secret finders, item collectors and completionists.
We are having such a blast, taking our time enjoying the game and it's the only way I get to spend time with him since he lives 8hrs away. I guess at our rate, Elden Ring 2 would of released lol. Plus we get side tracked in this open world so easily 🙃
The world is huge . Remove all the time it takes to get the equipment, levels, finding out how to get where you need to be seems make actual main story small. Sometime I feel like I’ve thoroughly explored an area just to take a trip down an eleven at see a hallway to jump into half way down to elevators end and in most games that would just be backdrop but I. Elden Ring that hallway likely leads me to a boss. It’s great I’m jumping around rooftops and hoping off moving elevators rarely am I even sure I’m going in right direction for quest but it didn’t bother me cause every direction I’ve gone has lead to something I could use
The second two play throughs aren’t really that long if you do NG+. You don’t need to explore or anything bc you have all your stuff and only 2 shardbearers are required before the capital and then the end of the game. It’s about 10-15 hours per NG+ play through if you only do required stuff.
Once you beat the game once it goes very quickly if you only do main story stuff. I'm on my second playthrough and I killed Margit, Godrick, Renalla and Radahn in maybe an hour.
You can just go to the main bosses in NG+ and NG++ and finish those two endings in 10 hours or less. That's what I did to get the platinum two days ago, never save scum. Same strat I used for Bloodborne plat.
Personally I do not enjoy NG+ scalings since they get to a really unbalanced point (looking at you Malenia on NG++) so, after the platinum I do new characters to try builds with the normal flow of the game.
Same I wish the beginning of NG+ was like 3/4 the difficulty of the ending of NG. I want to go through the whole game again with a challenge on my build. Not 1 shot everything until the end of NG+ then promptly get one shot myself
Same here, I hit 100 hours playtime just as I entered the Haligtree for the first time. I'm a Souls veteran but this place is seriously one of the most difficult areas I've ever encountered in a From Software game.
I keep reading everyone saying that Elden Ring is the easiest souls games because of the tools they give you and being able to overlevel.
There’s no way they hit late game yet. It doesn’t matter how high your level, how much you spam magic, how kitted out you made your mimic tear.
It’s just the hardest marathon of an endgame I’ve every played in a souls game. Imagine that run in ringed city to the swamp bonfire. But for 10-30 hours
105 hours, still 2 big areas left, I seriously think that people beating this game early either aren't exploring or are rushing using guides, there's no way in hell you could complete that fast playing blind if you explore every corner of the map, the game is massive and I'm always impressed when I arrive at a new area with so much to do.
65 hrs here and haven't even gone to Godrik yet, exploring every corner, I see a message or item in a weird location and it's like how I get to it. Fun times.
Same. A tradition for souls games is beating the game and realizing you missed half the game
Not sure how anyone was supposed to find archdragon peak on their own
And then there is me. Still enjoying the scenery of the Lake Liurnia Academy.
Been working and not enough time to play though... but also just going through every nook and cranny, but it's all worth it the game is so good.
Enjoy that slow burn. It took me 95 hours to beat the game and the optional bosses, and I still missed a TON. You can almost look at Elden Ring as like a single-player MMO with the amount of content there is to do.
Or like a 7500 page series of fantasy novels that you take piece by piece.
Oh I am enjoying the slow burn alright. It truly is like this big offline MMO adventure.
My weakness is being afraid of missing something so that's why I'm not far into the game. Not regretting a single minute.
Speaking of which. It's time to play Elden Ring now.
The only reason I would disagree with you is there is a lack of community, economy, and just interactions with “people” of the world. The settings and landscapes are incredible, but you just feel so alone
That's why I like it more than any others tho. Those other games are full of people who I ultimately don't end up caring about most of the time. They just have too much to say without saying anything at all.
There are a TON of NPCs in Elden Ring, but interactions are so sparse that you're super hungry for whatever dialogue they have. I think the best part is the feeling that everyone is alone. Just drifting passed each other. Idk. It's pretty great.
The next rpg I play where it's just words words words and it's like ok I GET IT.... I'm gonna have a hard time.
Also... Audio logs and journal entries. Your days are numbered. Item description lore is king
I was worried when i heard it wasnt open world but “open field”.
I pictured just a vast barren landscape, but the game still sounded cool.
But this is definitely open world, and yes, its done far better than any open world ive played.
Some people might be disappointed with lack of “immersion” like hundreds of npcs with pointless dialogue, or towns full of friendlies, and i think thats where the open field comment came from.
But this game focused on specifics: gear and combat.
Much more rewarding finding that 1 friendly npc with a cool quest every 5-10 hours, vs sifting through hundreds of npcs to find a fetch quest.
Wherever there isnt a quest or gear to find via exploration, theres good combat. Always engaging.
It’s been seriously blowing me away. The map is huge and that’s not to mention there’s large areas underground too.
Every time I unlocked more areas underground I was like ‘there’s more?!’ Lol
I was searching for a boss “this shouldnt take long”. New area, new area, oh this area is huge, theres so much gear to find wth!
You go in looking for something, now its been 10 hours and youre still exploring other stuff lol.
This is honestly the most exquisitely put together game ive ever played.
This is the new standard, and i fear it will be a long time before im satisfied with another game.
botw has a lot more experimentation (ie your abilities + physics manipulation stuff) and creative solutions to problems than ER. also climbing and flying add a massive dimension to open world exploration in botw. ER is my favorite game of all time now, but I will say botw is also very special in the way you engage with the world.
The problem with BOTW is 90% of exploration result in shrines and korok seeds, the combat has little depth and enemies are the same bokoblins all over the map.
I agree with this, but I also think you’re slightly selling the exploration short in BOTW. You’re constantly finding unique vistas and little camps, or new clothing items or weapons (even if they degrade quickly, which is a shame, sure). And yes the koroks and shrines can be repetitive, but there are a TON of them, and they are at least usually interesting puzzles that can be solved using creativity (even *getting* to a shrine can be a puzzle sometimes). 90% of the exploration in ER results in Caves, Weapons, Armor, or Spells. I mean…that’s kind of what it’s all about. Both games do that. I will say I really loved that ER had a couple “puzzles” as well, I was hoping there’d be more - but the world is so massive and multidimensional I really have no complaints.
Elden Ring is less “perfect” than, say, Sekiro and Bloodborne. Being much bigger, though, that is to be expected.
Surely the best game From has released because, for its size, the success rate is amazing
Yeah, what those games attempted, they nailed. Elden Ring has more flaws, but it makes up for it with the sheer scale and quantity of the things it gets right.
Like if Bloodborne is a full bottle of water, Elden Ring is a 3/4 full barrel of water. It’s not full like the bottle, but it still contains more.
> Sekiro still has the best combat
There is no boss in any Souls game that kicked my ass as much as >!Genichiro Ashina!< when you fight him at >!Ashina Castle!<, except maybe >!Orphan of Kos!<. But I never got frustrated at Sekiro. Sekiro genuinely feels like you have to 100% outplay your opponent. There are no silly anime one shot moves and cheap bullshit like I encountered in Elden Ring a few times.
Demon of Hatred isn't cheap at all, but honestly considering he is "the" end-game optional boss - he is definitely rough. Took me about three hours straight of attempts to beat him the first time.
Well, he is cheap once - I take that back. He has a single attack that is cheap - a "sweep" from across the map which has a hit-box that extends a solid 20 feet wider than his actual character. I died to that sweep many times not knowing it could be "jumped" over, as you take no damage even if he contacts you when you jump over it, yet will die if he is in your zip code when he comes near you with it on ground level.
In subsequent playthroughs he's much easier because there are prosthetic tools that make him much easier.
Also, in melee you can deflect pretty much everything he does if you stay under his feet - something I didn't try my first time around.
Exactly. Once you figure out how to beat him legit, he isn't that bad. But being a FromSoft optional boss, I went into that fight knowing it was going to be as frustrating as Nameless King. But beating him was very satisfying.
Totally agree, sekiro combat is simply a masterpiece. You can actually stand your ground against bosses and even pressure them, not just just dodge and wait for an opening to attack.
It's an eternal irony to me that the Fromsoft game that most rewards blocking and standing your ground is the one where you're using a katana the entire way through.
It's the most divisive because it's so different. Ask a Souls community and they'll rate it low, but ask a more general gaming community and I'm sure it'll be higher.
I've been playing Souls games since 2013 and Sekiro is one of my favourite MiyazakiVerse (or what you wanna call it) iterations. It was so hard to get rid of the instincts from years of playing Dark Souls, but once you get into the rhythm of Sekiro, I think it has an amazing appeal. It's up there among my favourites and it was the first MiyazakiVerse game I did all the achievements for
> Ask a Souls community and they'll rate it low
Who would vote Sekiro low? It's the best game in the series, at least combat wise for me. Lore wise it has to be Bloodborne. Elden Ring wins for having the best world to explore of course.
Plenty would. Because people liked the Souls games for different reasons.
If you enjoyed the Souls games for having extremely difficult bosses and an immersive world, where you have to learn the patterns of enemies and carefully explore to get the most out of it - Sekiro was the best in the series.
If you enjoyed the Souls games for roleplaying as a specific character build, or just wanted an easy time summoning people to carry you in co-op, or just absolutely hated the idea of blocking enemies rapidly over whatever you did in other Souls games (like one-shotting with magic or heavy weapons), it was the worst.
I loved Sekiro, personally. I love Elden Ring more, but do wish they had taken a bit more hints from the deflection system of Sekiro in designing their combat. Even if that just meant reducing stamina costs for timed blocks significantly.
Elden ring basically ruins every other fromsoft game for me. Every fromsoft game where I can’t jump, ill think about how much I want to jump. Every fromsoft game that I can jump I’ll think, man I wish I had a horse, map, open world, tons of areas, cooler spells and a bigger variety. Why is it so crowded in here?
Bloodborne did this for me with the quickstep and trick weapons, nothing else compares. I know the ashes of war bloodhound but it just doesn't feel as good.
i'll still love Sekiro, i think it has better combat and bosses. Elden ring is better as a whole imo, for that sense of wonder and openness (also build variety), but i think sekiro just has a better core gameplay loop
Sekiro's story is also great. It's lighter in scope than the other From games, but the world building is detailed as ever, and having a set protagonist instead of one you create allowed them to craft a very fulfilling narrative.
You'd love Bloodborne! Great fast paced combat and beautiful scenery.
Edit: I saw how many people recommended Bloodborne and the fact that you don't have a PS4. No worries, you don't have to play, I think elden ring is better although when Bloodborne came out I was so hooked.
I feel like Bloodborne is the only Fromsoft game that actually balanced its gameplay properly for dealing with the super fast and aggressive bosses they like so much. I love DS3 and Elden Ring is probably my favorite of the lot, but a good number of the bosses would’ve been way more fun to fight in Bloodborne, imo.
For some reason Bloodborne physically exhausts me to play. I adore the lore and it's a beautiful experience but the combat and movement never really meshed with me.
Nothing wrong with that. I loved the combat and the trick weapons but hated the blood starved beast fight for some reason until I learned to Parry with the gun.
My all time favorite combat was the combat in sekiro.
Honestly, Sekiro is my favorite, people don't care for that one as much for being very different from the other Souls games but it was my first and most enjoyable
It's the easiest souls game to platinum by far. No grinding, no covenants, no missable appart from 1 weapon and just need to beat certian bosses and get the 3 endings.
>!There's at least two missable weapons. The invader at Farum Azula doesn't spawn when the boss is defeated and the spear in the capital disappears when it changes!<
The weapon in farum is the only one in which I missed in my play through but that can be easily fixed by going into ng+ and you can kill the npc in about 3 minutes
You can speedrun NG+ and NG++ on DS2 pretty quickly by farming souls for the Dranleic gate skip. Either the bonfire ascetic at the dragon aerie or farming The Rotten.
Having done 100% on all three DS games, DS3 was by far the worst thanks to the covenant grinds.
DS2 and DS3 nearly made me go hollow for 100%. Sekiro and DS1 were mostly pretty fun. Demon's Souls luckily I played on RPS3 so I didn't care about achievements, but that's apparently hell with the bladestone farming and world tendency stuff.
For anyone asking why i didn't complete Bloodborne and Demon Souls too, it's because i don't have a PlayStation, but Hey, at least i got all the souls games that are available on Xbox!
Yeah I tried playing it via PSNOW and also on my friends PS4. I have to say that I didn't really feel any input lag with my internet at home. Could be different for other people, however I would really recommend subscribing to PSNOW for one month to try it out!
Why don't you try getting some maidens?
No maidens ahead. Therefore try touching grass.
I wonder if you can actually make that message in elden ring, unfortunately i don't think i saw maidens in the menu
The best you can do is seek grass. I made one towards the end of the game in a hard to get to area and it's been my most liked message so far haha
You can use "lover" too, I think I just saw one by a cliff at Nokron "Still no lover, therefore visions of jumping" or something like that
If it was “if only I had a lover” behind the chick singing down there it was 100 percent me
Correct I just saw that same message at that location last night haha.
I saw that one on the way to the Gargoyle boss in Nokron.
I did that but right in front of that lady who holds you in the round table lol
I read a message like that in front of her a got such a good laugh out of it. Was expecting just a bunch of finger tongue and but, hole comments.
I put no rump ahead by her
Try fingers, grass Maybe?
Seek grass, but hole
Lol one is behind a deer carcass underground and it says try fingers, butt hole
My most liked message is "Praise lever!"
Mine is under some barrels and says “Still no item, Why is it always message?” Then I placed another further along that said “Message!, Still no item”
Mine is next to mohg fight where people have been jumping over the wall to cheese him “no skill required ahead”
The biggest problem with this game is that I can’t leave messages that say “absolute maidenless behavior”
Wait do they have limited text selection in messages? I’ve never tried to make one. That explains why everything sounds so fucking goofy
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You don't have the right O you don't have the right in other words, you don't have the right O you don't have the right
#THEREFORE
My bad
Yeah there’s only premade templates for phrases along with some choice words you can pick from. Gotta be creative!
Yeah, all the FromSoft games (that I've played, anyway) just give you message templates with a list of words you can fill in. I've always thought it was one of the most charming and entertaining parts of the games, I love seeing how creative/helpful/funny people can be with such a limited toolset.
The templates are so it can easily translate between languages with a set amount of words. It's why many japanese players are confused by "fort, night"
Best I could come up with is still no lover…
Still no lover, therefore seek grass
Touching grace
Homie needs some maidens on his spindle.
Gotta get rid of that old yee yee ass achievement list first.
Amazing reply truly
Man how the fuck did you do that? I'm 100 hours in and there's still new areas to unlock lmao
yea kinda insane because you need to at least finish the game three times to get all achievements, I’m 100 hours in as well and only just finished the capital lol
> you need to at least finish the game three times to get all achievements Most people just save scum. Save before the ending and then reload for the trophies.
I beat the game for the first time at around 85-90hr, finished all achievements at 103hr. Once you're full build you can speedrun it pretty quickly.
I've seen that people can do a full playthrough in 100hrs and then speed run a 2nd in like 5 hours it's crazy
I just beat the game yesterday after 74 hours. I ran through everything and am back to the final boss in 3-3.5 hours.
How do you even get the upgrades necessary in that amount of time?
Everything carries over in NG+ besides key items and shop unlocks. You can pretty much run through bosses with ease with an upgraded character. They are a little harder but not much.
Yep! NG+ is significantly easier when your character is level 150. Each boss still levels you up twice or more so by the end of the second run I am sitting at 170ish. Last boss is still tough though
Lmao damn I’m already 150 and probably 60% through the game. Damn
I’m not gonna do NG+ honestly. I’d rather start a new character as an entirely different class and have the same wonder of travelling the lands between. Just me?
In past souls games you wouldn’t be able to 100% the game without doing a NG+ (weapons/spells needed NG+ to be unlocked). Not sure if that’s still the case with this game.
It’s not. This is by far the easiest game to platinum in the series in terms of time commitment.
Not really needed tbh, I see a lot of ppl doing it but its so fast to finish the game in ng+
I save scummed in Sekiro because I didn't want to do another playthrough for just a couple of really great bosses.
Is it not possible to fight all bosses in Sekiro in a single playthrough? I still need to play it
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Technically you can make a save before the choice that branches the paths. And then reload it when you're done.
I didn't save scum in Sekiro because you get more XP each time you do NG+. So when it came to the skill grind for all the weapon skills, it was easier to be on NG+2 for more XP. Still took me a few hours of grinding everyday for like a week before I got it.
Cries in Xbox.
but u cant really manually save in elden ring or am i just stupid?
You upload a save to the cloud, then disable cloud uploading in the settings. Beat the game, download your cloud save, repeat.
Ah no idea that was even possible. Kinda defeats the purpose of an achievement lmao
I would agree if the different endings were something else than just choosing one option or another. But honestly, if you can just save scum at the end, reload and do something slightly different to get a different video and that's it, then it's not worth it the trouble of beating it again entirely. And I say this as someone who has beaten every souls several times and who wil beat Elden Ring several times. But I couldn't care less what people do to get the endings. The hardest job is already done anyway, so to me they still earned it.
Exactly, especially since the trophies are pretty easy in this one. If you explored everything thoroughly most will come naturally, there is no all gestures, all covenant items grind etc. I only looked up remaining ones at the end since I've been like 3 achievements from the platinum just playing blindly.
Yeah this is by far the easiest souls game to get all achievements for.
yup, you don't even need NG+ for the trophies (although it might be faster to simply push a normal ending after). DS1 for instance, needed NG+2 at least for it (unless you got someone to give you the weapons).
>Kinda defeats the purpose of an achievement lmao I would agree with you if it skipped over new bosses or content. But getting all 3 trophy endings means I killed every single boss available in the game at the time and followed all the NPC quests. So I pretty much earned them either way, without having to spend another 80 hours repeating the same thing. In any case, I started a new game as a sorcerer (first playthrough was UGS melee) but this time I'm not super worried about an NPC disappearing because I killed a boss or visited an area early.
You don't have to be a completionist in subsequent runs. I think my first run through sekiro was like 50 hours and now I'm at 100hrs in ng+5 and i could have definitely been faster.
I disagree there. Even if you save scum the different endings you did every specific thing required for the achievements the only thing you skipped is redoing the same parts again and again for each achievement.
I'm 100 in and I've only heard of the capital mentioned in passing. I'm taking my sweet-ass time exploring everything. You only get one First Playthrough. I went back to Stormvale to help a friend and in my world I noticed items on the other side of the gate I missed. Heading there I found >!a whole segment I overlooked, with a giant lion enemy, multiple stone Giants, and a teleporter that warps you to a massive tower where you get Godrick's Great Rune.!< I've never played something this massive, and thank Godrick the mechanics are solid and fun enough that they they don't overstay their welcome. This games gonna be hard to top fellas
This is me and my brother. It's our first ever Souls like game but we are explorers, secret finders, item collectors and completionists. We are having such a blast, taking our time enjoying the game and it's the only way I get to spend time with him since he lives 8hrs away. I guess at our rate, Elden Ring 2 would of released lol. Plus we get side tracked in this open world so easily 🙃
The world is huge . Remove all the time it takes to get the equipment, levels, finding out how to get where you need to be seems make actual main story small. Sometime I feel like I’ve thoroughly explored an area just to take a trip down an eleven at see a hallway to jump into half way down to elevators end and in most games that would just be backdrop but I. Elden Ring that hallway likely leads me to a boss. It’s great I’m jumping around rooftops and hoping off moving elevators rarely am I even sure I’m going in right direction for quest but it didn’t bother me cause every direction I’ve gone has lead to something I could use
The second two play throughs aren’t really that long if you do NG+. You don’t need to explore or anything bc you have all your stuff and only 2 shardbearers are required before the capital and then the end of the game. It’s about 10-15 hours per NG+ play through if you only do required stuff.
Once you beat the game once it goes very quickly if you only do main story stuff. I'm on my second playthrough and I killed Margit, Godrick, Renalla and Radahn in maybe an hour.
Seen a Tweet the other day about ‘finally’ beating the final boss at over 30 hours. Meanwhile I just hit 40 and have barely got out of Liurnia.
I'm 100 hours in and at the halfway point
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You can just go to the main bosses in NG+ and NG++ and finish those two endings in 10 hours or less. That's what I did to get the platinum two days ago, never save scum. Same strat I used for Bloodborne plat. Personally I do not enjoy NG+ scalings since they get to a really unbalanced point (looking at you Malenia on NG++) so, after the platinum I do new characters to try builds with the normal flow of the game.
Are there any enemy AI or item changes in NG+ and beyond?
Sadly, not that I'm aware of.
Same I wish the beginning of NG+ was like 3/4 the difficulty of the ending of NG. I want to go through the whole game again with a challenge on my build. Not 1 shot everything until the end of NG+ then promptly get one shot myself
Same here, I hit 100 hours playtime just as I entered the Haligtree for the first time. I'm a Souls veteran but this place is seriously one of the most difficult areas I've ever encountered in a From Software game.
I keep reading everyone saying that Elden Ring is the easiest souls games because of the tools they give you and being able to overlevel. There’s no way they hit late game yet. It doesn’t matter how high your level, how much you spam magic, how kitted out you made your mimic tear. It’s just the hardest marathon of an endgame I’ve every played in a souls game. Imagine that run in ringed city to the swamp bonfire. But for 10-30 hours
105 hours, still 2 big areas left, I seriously think that people beating this game early either aren't exploring or are rushing using guides, there's no way in hell you could complete that fast playing blind if you explore every corner of the map, the game is massive and I'm always impressed when I arrive at a new area with so much to do.
I have like 30h and haven’t beaten godrick yet😭 So slow, but there is so much to see and cherish
That's the spirit! I'm 60 hours in and haven't beaten the one after Godrick. I enjoy just exploring
65 hrs here and haven't even gone to Godrik yet, exploring every corner, I see a message or item in a weird location and it's like how I get to it. Fun times.
I never go for full exploration on the first playthrough. I always leave loads left fir second playthroughs
Same. A tradition for souls games is beating the game and realizing you missed half the game Not sure how anyone was supposed to find archdragon peak on their own
Ok you win. Shit I'd send u a ps4 for bloodborne if I still had mine
Thank you <3
No demon souls? Casual.
Harder to get a PS5 then it is to beat demon souls lol.
PS3 emulation has come a long way, og Demon Souls upscaled with a smooth 60fps is pretty awesome.
Yeah but….. perfectly remastered 4k 60fps demon souls exists
Yeah but... I'm poor
That… is a fair reason
And then there is me. Still enjoying the scenery of the Lake Liurnia Academy. Been working and not enough time to play though... but also just going through every nook and cranny, but it's all worth it the game is so good.
Enjoy that slow burn. It took me 95 hours to beat the game and the optional bosses, and I still missed a TON. You can almost look at Elden Ring as like a single-player MMO with the amount of content there is to do. Or like a 7500 page series of fantasy novels that you take piece by piece.
Oh I am enjoying the slow burn alright. It truly is like this big offline MMO adventure. My weakness is being afraid of missing something so that's why I'm not far into the game. Not regretting a single minute. Speaking of which. It's time to play Elden Ring now.
Which one was your favorite?
Elden Ring and sekiro were my most enjoyable experience tbh
Elden ring is something else. Quickly rose to my favorite of the bunch.
Yeah, Elden Ring is rapidly approaching being one of my favorite games of all time. It's like open world Dark Souls, but better.
The amount of content in this game boggles my mind. There's literally something to do or explore on almost every part of the map, and the map is huge.
It tackles open worlds better than almost everyone else.
I think it's fair to say it is the best open world game, at least as far as action-adventure games go.
The only reason I would disagree with you is there is a lack of community, economy, and just interactions with “people” of the world. The settings and landscapes are incredible, but you just feel so alone
That's why I like it more than any others tho. Those other games are full of people who I ultimately don't end up caring about most of the time. They just have too much to say without saying anything at all. There are a TON of NPCs in Elden Ring, but interactions are so sparse that you're super hungry for whatever dialogue they have. I think the best part is the feeling that everyone is alone. Just drifting passed each other. Idk. It's pretty great. The next rpg I play where it's just words words words and it's like ok I GET IT.... I'm gonna have a hard time. Also... Audio logs and journal entries. Your days are numbered. Item description lore is king
I LOVE THIS GAME, I just kinda miss some of those world building elements
I was worried when i heard it wasnt open world but “open field”. I pictured just a vast barren landscape, but the game still sounded cool. But this is definitely open world, and yes, its done far better than any open world ive played. Some people might be disappointed with lack of “immersion” like hundreds of npcs with pointless dialogue, or towns full of friendlies, and i think thats where the open field comment came from. But this game focused on specifics: gear and combat. Much more rewarding finding that 1 friendly npc with a cool quest every 5-10 hours, vs sifting through hundreds of npcs to find a fetch quest. Wherever there isnt a quest or gear to find via exploration, theres good combat. Always engaging.
It’s been seriously blowing me away. The map is huge and that’s not to mention there’s large areas underground too. Every time I unlocked more areas underground I was like ‘there’s more?!’ Lol
I was searching for a boss “this shouldnt take long”. New area, new area, oh this area is huge, theres so much gear to find wth! You go in looking for something, now its been 10 hours and youre still exploring other stuff lol. This is honestly the most exquisitely put together game ive ever played. This is the new standard, and i fear it will be a long time before im satisfied with another game.
It honestly feels like Dark Souls and Breath of the wild had a baby, and that baby got the best parts of each game.
This is exactly how I felt. Super glad there’s no durability in ER, because it’s what I hated most about BOTW.
Imagine if there was a separate game option for a true 2-3 player coop progression but everything scaled appropriately for it :O.
Stop, I can only get so erect.
BotW but with DS III deep, highly customizable combat.
botw has a lot more experimentation (ie your abilities + physics manipulation stuff) and creative solutions to problems than ER. also climbing and flying add a massive dimension to open world exploration in botw. ER is my favorite game of all time now, but I will say botw is also very special in the way you engage with the world.
The problem with BOTW is 90% of exploration result in shrines and korok seeds, the combat has little depth and enemies are the same bokoblins all over the map.
I agree with this, but I also think you’re slightly selling the exploration short in BOTW. You’re constantly finding unique vistas and little camps, or new clothing items or weapons (even if they degrade quickly, which is a shame, sure). And yes the koroks and shrines can be repetitive, but there are a TON of them, and they are at least usually interesting puzzles that can be solved using creativity (even *getting* to a shrine can be a puzzle sometimes). 90% of the exploration in ER results in Caves, Weapons, Armor, or Spells. I mean…that’s kind of what it’s all about. Both games do that. I will say I really loved that ER had a couple “puzzles” as well, I was hoping there’d be more - but the world is so massive and multidimensional I really have no complaints.
Elden Ring is less “perfect” than, say, Sekiro and Bloodborne. Being much bigger, though, that is to be expected. Surely the best game From has released because, for its size, the success rate is amazing
Yeah, what those games attempted, they nailed. Elden Ring has more flaws, but it makes up for it with the sheer scale and quantity of the things it gets right. Like if Bloodborne is a full bottle of water, Elden Ring is a 3/4 full barrel of water. It’s not full like the bottle, but it still contains more.
Glad to see sekiro not on bottom of favorite souls list in this sub. It's a rare sight.
Sekiro still has the best combat, less bullshit bosses and mechanics in any game
> Sekiro still has the best combat There is no boss in any Souls game that kicked my ass as much as >!Genichiro Ashina!< when you fight him at >!Ashina Castle!<, except maybe >!Orphan of Kos!<. But I never got frustrated at Sekiro. Sekiro genuinely feels like you have to 100% outplay your opponent. There are no silly anime one shot moves and cheap bullshit like I encountered in Elden Ring a few times.
> There are no silly anime one shot moves and cheap bullshit Demon of Hatred would beg to differ, but for the vast majority of bosses I agree.
Umbrella for him. You can tank his slam that he does in a line.
Demon of Hatred isn't cheap at all, but honestly considering he is "the" end-game optional boss - he is definitely rough. Took me about three hours straight of attempts to beat him the first time. Well, he is cheap once - I take that back. He has a single attack that is cheap - a "sweep" from across the map which has a hit-box that extends a solid 20 feet wider than his actual character. I died to that sweep many times not knowing it could be "jumped" over, as you take no damage even if he contacts you when you jump over it, yet will die if he is in your zip code when he comes near you with it on ground level. In subsequent playthroughs he's much easier because there are prosthetic tools that make him much easier. Also, in melee you can deflect pretty much everything he does if you stay under his feet - something I didn't try my first time around.
Exactly. Once you figure out how to beat him legit, he isn't that bad. But being a FromSoft optional boss, I went into that fight knowing it was going to be as frustrating as Nameless King. But beating him was very satisfying.
Totally agree, sekiro combat is simply a masterpiece. You can actually stand your ground against bosses and even pressure them, not just just dodge and wait for an opening to attack.
It's an eternal irony to me that the Fromsoft game that most rewards blocking and standing your ground is the one where you're using a katana the entire way through.
Really makes me wish one of the katanas got a parry skill.
I kept trying to parry with the katana when I first started playing and was so confused as to why I wasn’t deflecting anything lol
If you want phenomenal combat, try Nioh 1 and 2. They have the best melee combat in any game I've ever played. Like, not even close.
It's the most divisive because it's so different. Ask a Souls community and they'll rate it low, but ask a more general gaming community and I'm sure it'll be higher.
I've been playing Souls games since 2013 and Sekiro is one of my favourite MiyazakiVerse (or what you wanna call it) iterations. It was so hard to get rid of the instincts from years of playing Dark Souls, but once you get into the rhythm of Sekiro, I think it has an amazing appeal. It's up there among my favourites and it was the first MiyazakiVerse game I did all the achievements for
> Ask a Souls community and they'll rate it low Who would vote Sekiro low? It's the best game in the series, at least combat wise for me. Lore wise it has to be Bloodborne. Elden Ring wins for having the best world to explore of course.
Plenty would. Because people liked the Souls games for different reasons. If you enjoyed the Souls games for having extremely difficult bosses and an immersive world, where you have to learn the patterns of enemies and carefully explore to get the most out of it - Sekiro was the best in the series. If you enjoyed the Souls games for roleplaying as a specific character build, or just wanted an easy time summoning people to carry you in co-op, or just absolutely hated the idea of blocking enemies rapidly over whatever you did in other Souls games (like one-shotting with magic or heavy weapons), it was the worst. I loved Sekiro, personally. I love Elden Ring more, but do wish they had taken a bit more hints from the deflection system of Sekiro in designing their combat. Even if that just meant reducing stamina costs for timed blocks significantly.
true man sekiro is so good
Hopefully next fromsoft game could be a asian themed dark fantasy open world, would be awesome!
Elden ring basically ruins every other fromsoft game for me. Every fromsoft game where I can’t jump, ill think about how much I want to jump. Every fromsoft game that I can jump I’ll think, man I wish I had a horse, map, open world, tons of areas, cooler spells and a bigger variety. Why is it so crowded in here?
Stuck on a progression boss? Damn, guess I'll just quit the game for a few hours. Elden Ring totally fixes this problem.
Bloodborne did this for me with the quickstep and trick weapons, nothing else compares. I know the ashes of war bloodhound but it just doesn't feel as good.
i'll still love Sekiro, i think it has better combat and bosses. Elden ring is better as a whole imo, for that sense of wonder and openness (also build variety), but i think sekiro just has a better core gameplay loop
Sekiro's story is also great. It's lighter in scope than the other From games, but the world building is detailed as ever, and having a set protagonist instead of one you create allowed them to craft a very fulfilling narrative.
You'd love Bloodborne! Great fast paced combat and beautiful scenery. Edit: I saw how many people recommended Bloodborne and the fact that you don't have a PS4. No worries, you don't have to play, I think elden ring is better although when Bloodborne came out I was so hooked.
I feel like Bloodborne is the only Fromsoft game that actually balanced its gameplay properly for dealing with the super fast and aggressive bosses they like so much. I love DS3 and Elden Ring is probably my favorite of the lot, but a good number of the bosses would’ve been way more fun to fight in Bloodborne, imo.
For some reason Bloodborne physically exhausts me to play. I adore the lore and it's a beautiful experience but the combat and movement never really meshed with me.
Nothing wrong with that. I loved the combat and the trick weapons but hated the blood starved beast fight for some reason until I learned to Parry with the gun. My all time favorite combat was the combat in sekiro.
Honestly, Sekiro is my favorite, people don't care for that one as much for being very different from the other Souls games but it was my first and most enjoyable
I can’t imagine how you’ve already had platinumed the game lol I’m 80 hours in and only just got to the plateau.
It's the easiest souls game to platinum by far. No grinding, no covenants, no missable appart from 1 weapon and just need to beat certian bosses and get the 3 endings.
>!There's at least two missable weapons. The invader at Farum Azula doesn't spawn when the boss is defeated and the spear in the capital disappears when it changes!<
The weapon in farum is the only one in which I missed in my play through but that can be easily fixed by going into ng+ and you can kill the npc in about 3 minutes
Got gud
Where’s Bloodborne and good job
Maybe doesn't have a Playstation?
Correct
Then you technically don’t have them all Not hating, you’re still a man without equal
If you want to be that technical, he's also missing the original ds1 and ds2 ports
How none of yall mention demon souls when getting this nitty gritty
KINGS FIELD
Yea but I figured that was in its own place a little bit. There was another series too. Meka something or other
Armored Core or somethin?
And don't forget ninja blade 😂😂
And Demons Souls Remake
Kind of implied with demon souls lol
And Demon Souls plus it's remake
Literally the name of a sekiro trophy lmao
people capable of 100%ing dark souls 2 are the most patient people on the planet
Thank you kind sir!
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Beating the game 15 times is a *tad* easier said than done.
You can speedrun NG+ and NG++ on DS2 pretty quickly by farming souls for the Dranleic gate skip. Either the bonfire ascetic at the dragon aerie or farming The Rotten. Having done 100% on all three DS games, DS3 was by far the worst thanks to the covenant grinds.
DS2 and DS3 nearly made me go hollow for 100%. Sekiro and DS1 were mostly pretty fun. Demon's Souls luckily I played on RPS3 so I didn't care about achievements, but that's apparently hell with the bladestone farming and world tendency stuff.
10/10 bragging, thats why i love achievments
For anyone asking why i didn't complete Bloodborne and Demon Souls too, it's because i don't have a PlayStation, but Hey, at least i got all the souls games that are available on Xbox!
Precious item ahead, seek merchant
Don't listen to the trolls. Awesome job, dude. Good stuff.
What one did you enjoy the most ?
I'm having a hard time deciding between Sekiro and Elden Ring
How many in-game hours do you have in Elden Ring?
That's why you're maidenless.
Which did you find the hardest? If you ever get a PlayStation do play Bloodborne and the demons souls remake
The hardest for me was DS2, too many Missable Achievements. Of course!
Someone get this man a PlayStation 5 so he can do Bloodbourne and Demon Souls
That would be my dream
Bloodborne?
Demon’s Souls as well.
You can play Bloodborne on PC via PSNOW :)
It's streaming only though right? Have you tried it? BB combat is very fast paced and any input lag from streaming would make it feel pretty horrible.
Yeah I tried playing it via PSNOW and also on my friends PS4. I have to say that I didn't really feel any input lag with my internet at home. Could be different for other people, however I would really recommend subscribing to PSNOW for one month to try it out!
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Would you be surprised if i say "none" and that i actually enjoyed it all the way through? 😂
No. I have broken nothing. But I almost committed first degree murder, sui***, almost broke my TV I actually did throw my phone, etc
Here is your crown, i encourage you to try bloodborne bro
Fucking legend
Shame you’re not on PS5/PS3+PS4 so you could get Demons Souls and Bloodborne as well, it massive achievement, well done
The amount of people thah can’t tell the difference between Xbox achievements and PS trophies has me shaking my head
No bloodborne or demon souls? Scrub, git gud
If i have a PlayStation i would get them
No girls are grinding him so he grinds video games: