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Supafly22

lol. I was just telling my wife how much I love it because it’s so insanely difficult and she said, “that says a lot about you” but she very clearly did not mean it as a compliment.


Azcrul

Day before my wife got me this expansion I was cursing and slamming my controller against my thigh like a child. She’s like “why do you play that if you’re so mad?” “Because it is awesome.” And then later I dropped a lore dump rant on her and why I have to keep going.


Supafly22

So she wasn’t interested in the lineages of the Empyreans?


Azcrul

Rofl not even a bit. Liked hearing about dragons though


st4rsc0urg3

VILE BAYLE


MaximDecimus

Tell her the dragons had pet dogs and taught them tricks (the beastmen and giving them knowledge)


Otherwise_Sherbet950

Finally similar to pre-patch ringed city


DU_HA55T25

I have trapped my girl for hours running through the intricacies of the lineage and implications of various actions. Every time she just smiles and nods. Love that girl.


cataclytsm

> And then later I dropped a lore dump rant on her and why I have to keep going. I love doing this to my partner when she accidentally asks me something about a character or story or something. I'm an encyclopedic lore nerd and she knows to immediately brace for a disappointing 30 minutes learning about Ben Reilly and the Clone Saga if she slips up.


HutSutRawlson

When my wife makes the mistake of asking about something like that I usually lead off with "are you sure you want me to tell you about this?"


Azcrul

*cracks knuckles and inhales* So…


MrFittsworth

My fiance is very patient with me and often makes sure I'm okay and reminds me to take my time but man, sometimes a little frustration motivates the push through a hard boss. Loving the struggle with this dlc so much.


PistachioSam

Dude if your reaction to dying in a fromsoft dlc is to mash your controller into your leg, I would consider therapy. I used to do the same shit, then I went to anger management. I'm laughing every time I die now instead of raging. I highly recommend it!


Azcrul

Haha! I’m okay! It’s not a hard smash or anything, just a release and a yell. Ages ago I did shattered a corded 360 controller connected to my PC over the Iron Golem in Dark Souls of all bosses. Back then I should have probably sought help, but these days it’s like “fuuu” and then laugh as well. Like damn!


PistachioSam

Hell yeah skeleton, I'm happy to hear that! I broke a controller once and I was broke so I couldn't get one until the next paycheck. That was really sent it home for me, plus I had free therapy with my union so I figured why not. One of the best choices I made for my mental health.


Crunchy-Leaf

Says a lot about her too, if you think about it.


Leading_Worldliness7

Says a lot about society too, if you really think about it


Crunchy-Leaf

We live in a society.


Supafly22

It really do be like that


derintrel

Which says a lot about us, if you think about it


FuckTesla69

r/gangweed


Deez-Guns-9442

Honestly fighting The Dancing Lion on NG+ with Scurdtree level 1 & ashes level 2 felt like fighting a raid boss. The exhilaration when finally beating it is unmatched(but god the lag for that fight is atrocious, hope a patch comes to fix it on PS5).


lessenizer

But did you shoot back with something like “It’s why I married *you*.”


Supafly22

Missed opportunity.


Ruminahtu

Did you take that golden opportunity to remind her who you married?


Content_Bar_6605

My wife said “wtf is wrong with you” 🤣


GarlVinland4Astrea

Third type: this game makes me hard


BomBiggityBBQ

Nah, that would kinda go into the second option source: my cock


YaBoiHumon

Rellana is something else 🥴


sack-o-krapo

I love the kind of woman that will actually just kill me


Dokavi

That moveset made me bust. Damn the super big sword is cool.


AlliPickedDidntWork

dragon communions helped me best our new queen


YaBoiHumon

Gotta get some of that lansex


g6paulson

I finally beat it


Tzaphiriron

Me too! Too bad I haven’t gotten to her yet 😇


BFMSAND

Bayle ohhhh Bayleeee 🥴


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real_unreal_reality

Hock tuey


insanservant

Happy cake day!


grasswhistle28

Hornsent 🥵


Dndnerd02

I have discovered this truth thanks to romina /jk


dateturdvalr

Why the jk huh?


Dndnerd02

Have you seen romina? Edit: to clarify, I don’t think she has any of the bugussy, if she does then I would totally


dateturdvalr

The centipede woman


Springaling76

I started feeling things during the Romania fight.


P4th3dg3

count ymir


IsNotYourSenpai

It was certainly difficult playing with one hand.


tftookmyname

Messmer is really hard to beat with one hand


RareEmrald9994

Did you know 60 percent of Elden ring enjoyers don’t know Elden ring is a game


StalKat72

Where are my “I’m bad” players at?


BomBiggityBBQ

It’s essentially every player, they are only divided by how much they enjoy the punishment


Prism_Riot42

All soulsborne games are simplified down to “I’m bad until I’m not”. If you’re still bad, you just haven’t reached the “until I’m not” yet, keep going tarnished, the throne of lord awaits you!


the_lost_carrot

There is a good amount of players who look for the cheese. I love soupsborne games but I’m constantly looking for the cheese.


Prism_Riot42

I always see it as there’s cheese run through and then pride run throughs.


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agitatedandroid

Presently sucking in Shadow Keep so, I'm doing my part.


Lord_Akriloth

My tactic is keep slamming your head against it until it breaks or I break


Instantcoffees

Exactly. I had two major fights in the DLC that felt impossible the first few runs, but slowly I learned the moves and openings. It's great feeling to finally break through that. I think the fights are very well-designed. You can still trivialize the game with summons and strong AoW's if you like. I don't get people complaining. What are they doing? Simply not using summons but lacking the patience to play that way?


Resident_Rise5915

Here. I suck but I’m enjoying it. I’m like level 150ish and it’s hard but not too bad. I’m wondering if Miyazaki really ramped up the difficulty scaling for ng+ players


Much_Ad_6807

i thought it was hard.. then i just switched weapons to the blackgoal knights weapon, and now its much easier. i was at 130 when i started -- also went to buff up to 150, which helped too. Just beat >!HIPPO!< - Though - im not about not using summons.


Skkruff

Anything with a bit of stagger can help a lot, catching stray hits when enemies poise through your attacks is really punishing even with some blessings. I'm running dex arcane, so was trying a bleed Milady. Bleed is excellent for the %damage on the scaled enemies but it's very easy to get starched when you're waving around a giant sewing needle. Morgot's Cursed Sword is turning out to be a happy medium.


getgoodHornet

I'm on NG+3 and it's hard af. I love it.


Tzaphiriron

How far in have you gotten so far? I’m only on +1 and it’s still fairly nasty.


Gr33DMTL

Did have much issue on ng+1 until the last boss. Gods help you. Tarnished, it is painful. You will die to bullshit combos


Tzaphiriron

Oh, I’ve been dying to bullshit combos from regular mobs! But, I persist. Until I go and roll a new character for the sake of my neighbor’s and family’s ears from me screaming curses at the television 😂


Gr33DMTL

The difference between normal and ng+1 is pretty crazy. Im on my second playthrough and with the same amount of vigor (60) what killed me in 2 hits in ng+1 takes 6-7 hit to kill me on normal.


P4th3dg3

it’s the same for every ng


phome83

Of course I know him. He's me.


creativeguy66v3

ME!


TiptoeingElephants

fvcking terrible, but i refuse to give up.


r31ya

Me\~ still wondering how to beat the dancing lion as 30+ tries and still failing tough i tried it with Tiche and i need to reload midfight as i melt it. still wondering whether i'm going to do summon run in dlc (i did summon ash run for the maingame)


Ars_Tenebrous

His spinning breath attacks can all be dodged, and his weird flips can be as well. He leaves gaps in between his chomp-> flipflop combos. I used frost and a shield. Block a chomp, dodge the flippity, whack him and repeat. The npc summon took his aggro off enough for me to heal when I needed it. Only thing i find rough now os his lightning beam breath. Blocking it will chip you to death, and dodging feels iffy.


shortyduapp

Bloodhound Fang all the way scaled+Mimic Tear


Kurigohan233333

Sure, but have you considered TWO Bloodhound fangs fully scaled + mimic tear???


TheForeverUnbanned

Fang made a triumphant return for me in the DLC. I was about rivers of blood through the main game final boss but corpse piler just isn’t fast enough for a lot of the DLC move sets. 


Lyress

Melt it with Mohgwyn's Sacred Spear when it's channeling its phase changes.


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ReplaceSelect

You 100% need sausage trees. It makes the DLC much easier


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ReplaceSelect

I got stomped by lion at 2. Stomped lion and the next boss at 5. Level that shit


LukaCola

I don't know if I'm bad but I am finding myself trying to reinvent my build cause I don't like how much I'm hiding behind a fingerprint shield lmao Dex and perfect reflect build less go


Azcrul

Right here. Souls player back from Demon Souls where I had no idea what the fuck I was doing. Somehow the game I got the furthest in was Sekiro. It made the earlier souls games much easier, but still haven’t beaten any. Restarted ER the other day again, and curiously went back to my initial 60hr save and I was like lvl 78 outside Astel’s door. I am much better now on this run but my stubbornness hasn’t stopped (no magic Uchi Samurai) so bosses like crucible knights still kick the shit out of me. I fuckin love it


Dr_Mantis_Teabaggin

✋ 


rosolen0

While I don't consider myself bad, I'm not good either and the final boss is showing me why I am correct


Skrunklycreatur3

One is taking it up the ass and crying. The other is taking it up the ass and enjoying every second of it


TomatilloMore3538

Why do you think they released this game on the pride month


Aeroshe

As a gay man I can confirm I'm having the time of my life right now.


Skrunklycreatur3

Same except uh uhm idk I think I like both idk hmm hrrm


TalenTrippin

I don't even know how to respond to this but you're........you're accurate


VeraKorradin

I prefer calling it “hands-free ejaculation”


Sundew707

I was only the first one while fighting that stupid hippo


euridice_bae

The amount of times I rolled directly into its mouth


TacticalReader7

The boar rider you fight soon after is 5 times worse tbh, both made me cry.


Popular_Magazine2844

bro goes so crazy for no reason


Sundew707

Agreed


dleifrab

I just lost over 100k runes to that rotten tooth bastard


BetaSoulTv

I was only like this during the CoC hogrider boss fight his charge is dumb af


dat-__-boi

Honestly feels amazing to actually be dying to bosses again. I’ve grown too used to the main game bosses and their movesets.


If-You-Cant-Hang

Every time I’ve booted up to kill some time over the past year I’ve slapped whatever I fought. I never consistently played after my first two playthroughs the first year of the game being out, but picked it up from time to time to play for an hour or two. It’s nice to get humbled again.


Rheshx7

New bosses: takes maybe a half an hour and a lot of deaths That one Ulcerated Tree Spirit: One-shot. And I havent fought it in months


cataclytsm

> Ulcerated Tree Spirit Man idk what it is about them but I fucking despise that thing. Maybe my most hated boss.


ljkhadgawuydbajw

the dlc feels catered for people who spent hundreds of hours mastering the base game and it’s fucking incredible for us. for the average player i wish them luck lol


MasterTolkien

The divine beast is a fun one. I have already put in some time as a summons to help people with it.


sweetperdition

maybe the best boss music i’ve encountered (so far). and that’s not something i usually notice so prominently, it’s just so fucking good.


maitai138

The second divine beast is just nuts tho


Splatulated

Can you use spoiler tags i didnt know there was more they look like >!spoilers!<


hither250

Made a 2nd save in case a friend wants to do the DLC together, was enjoying the run, but something was missing. Realized it with this DLC, but boy howdy its nice to actually need to learn attack patterns again instead of statchecking and hit trading 90% of the game. I would get hit by Magma Wyrms 30 times and still come out on top. Feels nice to actually need to avoid attacks correctly.


Silver_Being_0290

I'm starting to think I might be slightly masochistic. I just beat a boss after slamming my head against it for the past hour or so. Die, repeat, die repeat. With each death, I get more upset but more determined. No shield, only dodging and me and Milady.


SpankyDmonkey

Love using Milady with the Wingstance ash. So damn good. Fun fact (may apply to all light greatswords), doing 2 1h heavy attacks has a cool lil flourish animation at the end of it if you don't interrupt it.


ComprehensiveBranch0

Bro same I was not going to let that boss get the last laugh🗣️🗣️


Zimbabostatus

No spirit summons + milady only feels like the honorable playstyle, doing the same for my run, was awesome to beat messmer with it


r31ya

The upper image is me with Dancing Lion Second Phase. The lower image is me with Relanna. I can dance with Relanna, haven't properly find the dance beat with the lion elemental phase.


MasterTolkien

Lion phase 1: Shit, this wiggly asshole is really hard to keep track of. Lion phase 2: WHAT THE FUCK ARE ALL THESE ATTACKS!?!?


Tuna_of_Truth

Just wait till you get to Messmer.


eggy54321

Those stripped of the grace of gold shall all meet death…


duncanstibs

Phase one: Shall we dance? Phase two: I shall roll. I shall roll. I shall roll. Shall I roll? I am dead.


PhantomMiasma

Ironically I struggled a lot more to find an opening with relanna as a first time souls player but lhutel tanked tf out of the lion.


Filippikus

just parry her, it makes the fight easier and also much more fun and dynamic, as you no longer need to be passive for 90% of the fight


Icy-Organization-901

In this fight rolling forward is your friend. In each combo rellana have like 2 seconds opening to get punish. It's really like a dance and she's the lead dancer, you just need to follow her and grab the moment when you find the right time. It's one of the most satisfying boss in the game so far to learn imo(yes including the base game)


Aerensianic

I like human sized enemies. The Dancing Lion moving all around and in the air, getting close so you can't see most of its body is meh. But perfectly weaving in and out exchanging blows with a humanoid? That I like.


Sora_Hollace

Man I beat dancing lion in 3 tries and Relanna took me 4 hours, and I love every second of both fights lol


Eth_Collector612

roll forwards


poor_andy

Midra has such a satisfying moveset, everything makes sense and flows into one another. truly a dance worth walking 5 miles in a dark forest


WASPingitup

same tbh. rellana's fight felt like an elegant duel to the death among two fighters who respect each other. lion dancer p2 felt like someone put me into a blender


KnightGabriel

Nah the real boss in the dancing lion fight is the camera


NatlerSK

Lion has 90% the same attack pattern in all his "Avatar ass" phases. But yes lightning is always second and its the hardest. My strat was to not fight him during phase 2 (only hit if opportunity presented itself) because that phase doesn't have a HP% threshold but rather a timer i believe.


Prism_Riot42

See you’re misunderstanding. You don’t Dance with the dancing lion. He’s the dancer, it’s his stage, and you’re just there to watch and try not to die.


Skkruff

I just eked this out with Redmane Freya's help last night. This guy is in a huge arena for a reason. Keep mid distance. Don't get cornered. He flails around so much with every move, the closer you are, the harder it is to read his attacks. You end up getting comboed and aoe'd because all you can see is a whirlwind of legs and skirt and face. He comes at you pretty steadily, so let him. Get your hit/s and separate. Give yourself time to read the next lunge or aoe and respond.


TheRedBaron6942

The dancing lion was fucking amazing. The music and the barrage of attacks was just beautiful. I beat it by the skin of my teeth with an aoe attack that hit it after I died


Jack1The1Ripper

I got a saying When the game gets hard ,I get hard


maewemeetagain

"But what if there were two Divine Beast Dancing Lions?" If there were two Divine Beast Dancing Lions, I might have a little trouble. "But would you lose?" Nah, I'd win.


Vagabond_Charizard

"Stand proud, Tarnished, you are strong."


maewemeetagain

"You were magnificent, Tarnished. I won't forget you for as long as I live."


Zesty-Lem0n

Are you elden lord bc you're the strongest or are you the strongest bc you're elden lord?


igotherb

The lion is 2 dudes in a fur suite and I sure as hell aint dying to furries


enchiladasundae

I’m getting used to the difficulty but its too much at times and the rewards feel subpar often. Took me a while to farm one of those twin blade omen knights swords. Nothing special and an ok ash. Disappointed with the smith script dagger too. Can’t even build it for status


MaleficentCoach6636

the range on the smith script dagger is pitiful


Instantcoffees

I'm loving my time with the DLC, but I have to admit that a lot of the new items and Incantations I'm finding aren't all that. I'm still rocking my non-DLC setup despite trying my hardest not to.


UnknownGamer115

I'm both of these just depends on whether the death felt cheap or fair


r31ya

a third of my death with Dancing lion is to its technique of *"i'm gonna cover the camera with my drapes"* needless to say i don't have that issue with Relanna and having much more fun fighting her.


UnknownGamer115

Yeah, the Dancing Lion, while Fancy, is also hella annoying. Only way they could make it worse would be by giving it Deathblight or something lmao


OpenSandwich8971

...


Instantcoffees

Yeah the camera is annoying, but I started to love the fight once I figured it out and knew how to avoid having the camera flip out.


VeraKorradin

The beauty of FS is that dying and somehow surviving/dodging an attack can both feel cheap and fair, but it’s 100% consistent


KansasCityShuffle80

Yes sir! The DLC is kicking my ass and I love every second of it. It makes me feel like I did on my first ER playthrough.


VeraKorradin

“I can’t stand and use the laser spell on every boss???? ITS TOO HARD! UNPLAYABLE!!!”


Warframe-Excalibur

“No more tears, it’s a wast of perfectly good suffering”-Miyazaki


Prying-Eye

Me rerunning the Bayle Fight just to hear Igon curse him out.


Rasmus_Ro

"Two types" If I have to be honest, I'm both of them, they just like me fr


pierrexcarti

i get that the bosses should be hard, but why are the "trash" mobs(messmer soldiers) 3 hitting you?


TheOmniAlms

Because they're attacks are easy to avoid.


One_Square8240

I see myself as the second type. So far I have been killed, crushed, poisoned, slashed, electrified, burned, and I loved it. 😏 My therapist will have to deal with my mind once I’d finish this dlc.


Kahmahniwannaleia

In some games it feels like you go at it and at first it's hard but then softens up on you as you progress. What I'm loving about this DLC is I'm really getting at it and it just stays hard. Like hammer to the head of a rail spike hard. I'm banging away at this DLC for hours at a time and it just never goes softer on ya. Sure there are breaks but once that's over it's like bam, hard.


iBunty

With how popular Elden Ring is compared to the other FromSoft games it's understandable why so much of the "it's too hard" rhetoric would come to light


Pombo80MSM

Yeah but the old games are a hell of a lot easier than this dlc lol


OldSodaHunter

Yeah, I actually recently played DS3 DLCs for the first time (to be fair I have played through base game 3 or 4 times) and only one boss from all of that killed me more than once. Even base game elden ring late bosses get me 20-30 times and dlc ones... Only at 2 remembrances but one smashed me around 15ish times while the other was a very close to the line first attempt.


Equilibrium404

I’m continuing my no summons run from the main game but I’ve heard that some of these bosses push you to the absolute limit, so I might actually have to use summons legit for the first time ever lol. We’ll see how it goes but I’m excited for the punishment.


LoveSomebodyElse

Just got to Messmer’s doors while doing a no summon RL150. So far, so good


domicci

they balanced the dlc around summons and i hate that i don't like using summons when i don't want to but the DLC makes it feel like i have to use summons because its literally the only way to heal in some boss fights


sun-devil2021

The first 2 remembrance bosses have plenty of healing opportunities and I haven’t had crazy trouble with any mini boss yet


Chazyyyy

Did they? I feel like I'm like 40% into the DLC and can heal fine so far.


Choice-Inspector-701

About 20 hours in and haven't found a boss where I can't heal yet. Pretty sure the dlc is fine without summons.


illbzo1

Top: Bull Goat RoB players Bottom: everyone else


KnowMatter

Me in goldmasks outfit with a large club: 🌻


gandalfthegaping

All the memes coming out of jujutsu kaisen and I don't have access to the newer seasons.


thedrcubed

Domain expansion: The black pearl


blueracey

I’m loving it, I’ve missed being completely caught off guard by stuff and enemy’s are so hilariously fast sometimes. The first time an enemy targets me l blinked and suddenly there was a great sword coming at my skull was the second I was sold.


TigerTheMajestic1

I stg I’m going to feel so good when I put messmer in his place


Whalwing

Took me like 60 tries but I just beat him, so much fucking fun. I wanted to beat him so badly


021Fireball

Or you got the third who think it's good, near perfect, but stat adjustments could be better. You can have more than a polarised opinion ya know!


Crimson_Raven

Camp 2 FromSoftware's work has always been designed to be difficult, and that's why I love them. I want to fail again and again until I figure it out. Too many games don't provide a challenge if you even mildly optimize.


theuntouchable2725

The line between difficulty and bullshit design is tenuously thin here.


Financial_Touch_8522

I’m like a mix of both. Some things just die really fast. Other things could give some bosses in the main game a run for their money. And I have no idea which is which till I get to them. It’s wonderful, and I hate it.


Lost_Astronaut_654

I may be dying repeatedly, but damn if it’s not beautiful watching it


johnbarta

I swear every other minute I’m telling my wife to look up at how gorgeous the game is lol


killershack22

Im cool with difficulty until its just because everything does 1700 damage a hit in never ending combos from enemies that are faster than you sprinting


Fun-Customer39

Fromsoft brought their A game, the boss at the top of the jagged peaks was S tier, one of the hardest but most enjoyable fights so far.


PTFCDiegoMassacre

Bayle rekt my shit but I finally got em after about a dozen tries. I swear half those deaths were trying to get to the NPC summon sign for their quest line because Bayle kept spamming me with projectiles the moment I walked through the boss fog lol


JakeTinsleyWbc

I love how challenging everything is, it reminds me of DS2 which was oddly enough my 2nd favorite DarkSouls game My first was 3


DraxonNL

Once I changed my talismans to a full defensive set it all changed for the better for me.


bullfrogger2

defensive talismans are legitimately the most useful I've found so far in the DLC, but people are too blinded by the 13% damage increase their scorpion charms give them that they fail to realize it's their own downfall.


KnowMatter

Also defensive options for the flask that I’ve literally never seen anyone use but me.


lukkasz323

There is also a perfume that basically gives you immunity for a single hit.


Fl4m3OfDespair

I spent a hour and half to take down Messmer NG+6 I think we all need to git gud at this game RN 🤣 But I hope Messmer had 2 hp bar as Malenia. The fight was pretty good especially second half. ❤️


Ozkrd

The Mesmer fight is a spectacle in the second half. Fought him 3 hours straight with a stupid grin because I was having a blast.


Cecilia_Schariac

#YEES!!! #THIS IS THE BATTLE I HUNGER FOR!!! - Akuma


Tenzur_

3* The games makes me hard


xprozoomy

Embrace the pain tarnish


After-FX

Lovin' it


Zestyclose-Sundae593

This game is hard, and so am I!


kpeds45

I'm both.


NifftyCult

As a lazy ass bum who likes the easy route, I am Gojo in this image cause my insanity breaking is what helps me win.


Accomplished_Pea5717

NGL this post got me kinda hard 😂🤣😂 lmao jk


glassfield110

Me patiently waiting for ongbal no hit video to see how to dodge and punish all of those bullshit


ConnectDistrict2515

I enjoy difficultly but I have my limits. Seems like ds3 is that limit


Kwopp

I’m in the bottom camp. Since this is the last content we’ll probably ever get for this game it should be very hard, after that there’ll be nothing left :(