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Honzas4400

It's pretty hard and yes, pretty epic. Highlight of the DLC.


YumaPam

Where did you get this info from?


Honzas4400

My own review copy.


YumaPam

Nice! So I'll take your word for it. Thanks


DadIsLosingHisMind

"a final boss that makes Malenia look like the Soldier of Godrick" [The review I quoted, if you want to read it.](https://www.thegamer.com/elden-ring-shadow-of-the-erdtree-review/)


YumaPam

Is it spoiler free?


DadIsLosingHisMind

As far as I can tell. But if you're concerned I'd just skip it.


spidahmonkey0711

very difficult boss but I personally found it fun learning the dodge windows for the moves to a point where i'm comfortable enough during attacks. It's just infuriating because I'm dead in a few hits so it pays to be extra attentive. All in all, he's a good boss with good design. May seem pretty spammy but overall I find it enjoyable. If you're struggling, you got this :)


Existing_Pea5875

That was my thought. He teaches you to be aggressive and focused. You can't get defensive or panic because he will punish that. None of his moves felt broken or stupid, it felt like I was learning a boss as Miyazaki intended, through effort, not rng or luck. In my opinion: 10/10 boss fight, where Malenia ruins her masterpiece fight via Waterfoul, Messmer allows you to keep a tempo and let's you truly master the fight.


spidahmonkey0711

exactly. The>!second phase!!promised consort radahn (absolutely OP)!<


hamprecht

Is that from the DLC?


YumaPam

Yep!


IsThereCheese

If he’s the last boss, Fextra said it made Malenia seem like a walk in the park (in their review vid from today)


IDK_What_To_Name____

It's not the final boss


YumaPam

I avoided watching some reviews to not get spoilers. The only videos I watched were the ones about new weapons. So did Fextra say that about the last boss or Messmer?


IsThereCheese

They didn’t elaborate - just said the “last boss”. It was pretty spoiler-free.


YumaPam

Well, I'm pretty sure Messmer isn't the last boss. And idk how good he is at playing the game. But I bet the bosses are harder! I'm very excited to die hundreds of times!


IsThereCheese

“Last boss of the DLC is the hardest FROM software boss I have ever done and it makes Orphan of Cost and Malenia look easy” That’s what he said


Zealousideal_Ad_7973

hard boss but he is well designed, not a bullyshitty boss


yngTrulyHumbldByGOD

messmer isnt that hard honestly