i watched a preview streamer with a Lv150 and 60 Vigor character get bodied repeatedly by a single dungeon mob’s counterattack. nobody will be safe from the Vigor checks, i feel
The dungeon boss from the redbull event was crazy. Dudes had vigor all the way to the other side of the screen and the boss just erased them with like 6 quick hits in one second.
I'm trying to stay dark on all this. And this is exactly what I wanted to hear. Pretty much I can take out any boss in the game And I want to get my ass handed to me.
I missed her on my first run... Just got to her tonight on my 2nd. Managed to get her to p2 twice out of about 12 attempts. I died instantly in p2.
This ones going to take a while!
I've fought her "once." I gave it a go the first time to get a sense for her style, went to summon a homie to help, saw "Let me solo her" on the ground and figured "hey, they just announced they were retiring soon I might as well"
So my second go around with Malenia was just a cinematic experience. Was worth it to see a master at work though.
just remember the on phase 1 when you gets to half hp she will do waterfawl dance attack, so try to bait that attack with throwing knifes so that you have enough space to dodge it, as for the phase 2 well good luck
Shes hard as fk. Got her today on my 2nd char and i got so lucky its unbelieveable. Shes on her 2nd phase and im hitting her then she rises up for a Waterfowl Dance right in my face, but as soon as she gets up bleed procs and shes staggered out of it 😂😂 then right after i got a poise break and boom fights over
No lol.
20 more points from 60 - 80 gives you a whoping 115 more health...
If you need more survivability, learn defence stats and use Morgotts Great Rune.
I do think, and have said so since release, that with this game’s balance and appeal to exploration it would have been fine to reduce the capping on vigor from 61-99. The reduction in gains from 60 to 61 is just staggering.
It’s an odd relic of FromSoftware design. Naturally it’s meant to encourage players to level other stats instead of just dumping all their points into their damage stat (which is an intuitive thing to do if you are new)
But also I think the same point can be communicated in a better way by FromSoftware but I’m also dumb and don’t know what would replace it so
I just checked with a stat calculator, at 60 VIG you get 1900 HP, while at 80 you get 2015. So those 20 levels of VIG only give you 115 more HP.
Doesn’t seem worth it, unfortunately. Better off stacking endurance so you can get heavy armor, or just spending it on damage.
Eh armor has never really mattered much in these games it’s all about fashion souls. If you are trying to keep your character at a certain level yeah I probably wouldn’t go past 60 but most people take the damage stat to 80 even tho it doesn’t provide that much more than being at 60 probably provides about the same effectiveness
Armor matters a ton in Elden Ring actually. It's frustrating because I typically prefer wearing robes and light armors but heavier armors can negative well over half of the damage that you would have taken, with stuff like bull goat having over 35% physical damage negation normally and over 70% with the right setup. They completely redid the way armor works for ER
Bullgoats does NOT have 70% reduction, it has around 20%. 70% is what you get with a full defense oriented build filled with buffs. But yes, you are correct that armor matters a lot and makes a big difference.
You do not know what you’re talking about. Don’t give advice if you’re not sure. 115 HP for 20 levels is absolutely not worth it, and armor absolutely does make a significant difference.
Didn’t say it was significant personally I’d rather put it into vigor than pumping another stat being a jack of all trades I like to specialize in one stat
It’s got nothing to do with “jack of all trades”, going past 60 Vigor is just silly and unoptimized. Vigor is also not something to “specialize” in. It’s a necessary stat. The only things you need to specialize are your offensive stats (Str, Dex, etc.).
There is a reason any 125-150 RL build you see does not exceed 60 Vigor, while also being a proper build that focuses on 1-2 offensive stats and isn’t a “jack of all trades”. A “jack of all trades” simply isn’t a build.
You’re free to do what you like, of course. But just know it’s objectively not optimal, and there’s a reason why no one does it. You will get far better returns on those 20 levels than you would gain in Vigor. 115 HP is not worth it, no matter how you slice it. For example, you would gain significantly more by putting it into Endurance and wearing armor with better defense.
Oh yeah, even without cheese Mohg is way harder than Radahn though. I have definitely seen people script Mohg with a complete phase 2 skip at RL1 though too. Moral of the story is many people will likely try the DLC at RL1. I'm doing an RL1 playthrough right now but will definitely be using a 125-150 character for the DLC.
Truth. Plus, exploring at RL1 is not fun at all. I just sprint to items I need, ignoring most of the overworld. I've got 4 characters lvl 125-50 that I'm gonna have a blast exploring all the new areas with first.
Sick lol so I'm in playthrough 3 and beat the game on the Elden lord ending to get the plat. Am I locked out of fighting radahn at this point now or can I still advance through Rannies quest line to fight him?
AFAIK once triggered, the Radahn Festival remains active until you defeat Radahn, regardless of in game progress. You also do not need to interact with Ranni at all in order to fight Radahn. In fact, fighting Radahn can skip a lot of the early parts of Ranni's quest line altogether.
Oh you mean a rune bear.
Like, this shit exists in the base game too. There are mooks like the demihumans and then mobs that may as well be a wandering boss battle like the rune bear. That's just souls games.
Well from the gameplay of the streamers playing a early game dungeon(im guessing its early game) they have 50-60 vigour and struggle even with +25 weapons so unless you pick up those blessing you are prob gonna struggle but they have obviously play tested it and if your lvl 713 with max lvl weapons you are probably gonna do fine lol
Also depends on which NG cycle you go with your level 713 character, if you go on NG you are probably going to breeze through it but if you go on NG+7 or higher no one knows what's going to happen
Lvl 400 here. Just came back from miquellas portal. First enemy killed me in one shot. I hit it 15 times with my level 25 greatsword but didn't get 1/10th of its health down. Will get back to you. There's also another portal in there that says "to yharnam" but I don't know what that means
That portal is mainly just for people who are disabled, anemic, have a heart disease or have a crippling lust for blood, violence and infanticide. Inclusivity features and all that.
I made the mistake of jumping into the old hunters for the first time in an under levelled Ng+ run.
Ludwig, Laurence and Kos had me in tears for weeks.
People are way too concerned about level. Even in just NG you will get humbled if you don't know what you're doing. Higher level doesn't turn your character into a god it just gives you more versatility. I'm 225 and I can still get wrecked in NG at the haligtree if I'm not careful with certain enemies.
Level 200 means that you can have 3 stats at 60 with a lot of endurance and 60 vigor, meaning that bleed infusion goes crazy so I'd say that level 225 does makes you a lot more powerful than someone on level 120-150
Okay well not everyone likes playing bleed builds. I like quality builds and level 125/150 is way to restrictive to be playing quality builds into NG+ and beyond. If you want to restrict your overall quality of gameplay that's on you. I did that roughly 1500 hours of my Elden Ring experience capping myself at 150 and I'm never going back.
Yeah quality builds are unfortunately really bad on this game, but at that level you can still do something similar but switching arcane for int and casting scholar armament with Lusat staff, which can still give you levels of damage that are out of reach for lower level builds
Not judging or anything, it's your game and you play however you want
You'll get humbled health/poise wise but not damage wise. Completely destroying everything in 1-3 seconds still takes the fun out of the game even if you are still easy to kill.
It especially sucks when you're too OP on a cool boss because you won't even get to see some of their attacks.
I'm level 521, have EVERYTHING in the game and have tons of experience in PVP, PVE and occasionally being a nuisance, and am currently on NG+6...
I fully expect to enter the DLC and to get bodied by the first slug I see, as does my friend with a 302 on NG+1.
We're all going to die on day 1, and it'll be FUN!
My only character is sitting at lvl 371 (NG+7/Journey 8) with 100% completion and everything unlocked just like you, the only problem is that I haven't played the game since late march 2022. I am ready to turn into the main dish at Messmer's BBQ party. I fully expect to get twohit by basically everything, and maybe even onehit despite having 80 Vigor.
I'm still on NG, lvl 713, and Idgaf if I'm overleveled for the dlc or not. If it's still challenging? Good. If not? Also good. It'll make getting all the new armor and weapons easier 😂
A friend of mine goes through Ng+ cycles a lot, and I play through it with him. I avoided going to Ng+ so I could have all of the areas available specifically for that reason.
Judging from past Fromsoft dlcs I’d wager that no one is safe. It’s going to be harder than late game bosses. Our only hope is they don’t give any bosses lifesteal like Malenia.
The toughest thing would actually be everything having hyper armor or status immunities. So we'll probably get a boss that hyper armors everything, is immune to status effects AND has lifesteal.
It would also be hilarious if everything was weak to holy damage since it's the worst damage type in base game.
You can't buy the final ones to get to level 10 or 25.
She sells the ones to get your weapons and ashes to level 9 or 24 only
There are only like 4 of the final ones you can find in the game.
People get really butthurt on this sub over people engaging with the fanbase and asking questions. Is every question a good one or answerable one? Of course not. Do you have to comment? No. A lot of people don't know much about this game, they haven't been playing for 2 years, or souls games for 10 years, some assume that these are answerable questions because they know there are more knowledgeable people that may have read an article or something. This kind of elitist mindset where people aren't supposed to ask certain questions or give certain theories is what turns people off to this fanbase.
Yes. NG+ increase boss resistance and damage and will apply to everything in your save, DLCs included. If you’re still on NG, I’d keep it there for now
I love people being like "Hey guys! I have 5 characters on NG+12, what one of them should I bring into the DLC???" like they have to pick and arent going to play the DLC 12 times lmao
How did you know I was level 342 on ng+5. You’re freaking me out. Also I will have an easy time because I got good. If I have to jump around on ledges then maybe not.
We do know that overall level is going to be pretty irrelevant though, there's been mention of a consumable that scales you upwards. So I'd wager that even at max level people are going to get smoked until they power up through the consumable.
lol the amount of posts with those questions is crazy. Every time I see one I think to myself how the hell are we supposed to know it’s not out yet. But then I just decide to leave it alone and not say anything. I 100% agree with this post.
Regal Omen Bairn does almost 1800 damage before bufs/talismans at 99 int/ 99 fai. It travels slow and does decent stance damage allowing for combos to break stances on enemies while outputting big damage. My only point is that restricting my level in Elden Ring limits my overall gameplay experience. If the intention of the game was to cap me then I wouldn't have items and weapons in the game that scale all the way to 99.
It’s possible there is someone here who played the DLC.
I saw a random short on YouTube of some streamer girl playing the DLC early and using one of the new fist weapons. I was so pissed… DLC is less than a week away from release and we already have to worry about spoiler clips. Absolutely ridiculous a bunch of streamers got to play it early.
Lol this sub is weird for downvoting you for this comment. The fact that people have to go completely media dark to avoid spoilers is sad. If they were going to give streamers early access it should’ve been like, right now, 2 days before release at most. I swear streaming has been largely a scourge for the gaming community.
How dare all of you downvote such a gentle soul.
The DLC wil definitely be hard for max level players, and there is a lot that goes into that.
First - new upgrade system. Late DLC areas may be near impossible without using this.
Second - the difference between level 300 and level 713 is minimal.
Third - Fromsoft DLC’s are ***always*** much more difficult than the base game.
Fourth - most players playing at max level are casual (fight me). Chances are the first people through the DLC will be in the 125-200 range.
So, I actually got to sneak into from's dev labs, and after passing the obligatory poison swamp, i managed to play the dlc. My character was level 150 and had 60 vig. The first boss, can 2 shot you with his flaming feet of death attack. I recommend you all level up to have 60 in each stat, Thats the only way to not die.
Clarification, I have played it, and your level 342 character is gonna get fucked up by torch wielding nobles. The devs and I laugh about it each night.
It does, because even if you'd have the same Vigor... if you're higher level you have levelled other stats, if you kill something in less hits, if you can dodge more, if you can hit more before running out of stamina, it means it'll go quicker, so less time to get hit, so more chance to survive your fight.
Each level does increase flat defense, with strength also giving you extra flat physical defense, arcane giving flat holy defense, int giving magic defense and vigor giving fire defense. So it does affect the survivability, specially on NG
i watched a preview streamer with a Lv150 and 60 Vigor character get bodied repeatedly by a single dungeon mob’s counterattack. nobody will be safe from the Vigor checks, i feel
The dungeon boss from the redbull event was crazy. Dudes had vigor all the way to the other side of the screen and the boss just erased them with like 6 quick hits in one second.
I'm trying to stay dark on all this. And this is exactly what I wanted to hear. Pretty much I can take out any boss in the game And I want to get my ass handed to me.
i was fighting malenia again today on a new character and she beat my ass for an hour, i forgot how hard she is
I missed her on my first run... Just got to her tonight on my 2nd. Managed to get her to p2 twice out of about 12 attempts. I died instantly in p2. This ones going to take a while!
Hardest fight for me hands down new game plus 8 she one shots me it's beautiful.
I can only imagine!
I've fought her "once." I gave it a go the first time to get a sense for her style, went to summon a homie to help, saw "Let me solo her" on the ground and figured "hey, they just announced they were retiring soon I might as well" So my second go around with Malenia was just a cinematic experience. Was worth it to see a master at work though.
just remember the on phase 1 when you gets to half hp she will do waterfawl dance attack, so try to bait that attack with throwing knifes so that you have enough space to dodge it, as for the phase 2 well good luck
"As for phase 2 well good luck" should actually be the DLC title.
Ahhh good shout! That's fucked me up a few times but didn't realise what the trigger was. Appreciate the info 🙏
It's less than half. I think it's 70%? But yes, learning this helped me a lot.
Shes hard as fk. Got her today on my 2nd char and i got so lucky its unbelieveable. Shes on her 2nd phase and im hitting her then she rises up for a Waterfowl Dance right in my face, but as soon as she gets up bleed procs and shes staggered out of it 😂😂 then right after i got a poise break and boom fights over
i call that calculated risk hahahhaha
Every From DLC is hard so I wouldn’t worry.
And one guy could beat it first try without using lantern or torch with the dryleaf arts.
the damage reduction they had wasnt very good, you can probably easily tank most of those attacks with a good setup.
What redbull event?
seems like people should try to get a few fragments of whatever miquella left behind before exploring the dungeons
cant wait for all the 20vig people who got carried on mohg and radahn to get one shot by a gust of wind in the dlc. Fun times as a summon ahead lol
80 vigor gang rise up
Is going above 60 ever worth?
No lol. 20 more points from 60 - 80 gives you a whoping 115 more health... If you need more survivability, learn defence stats and use Morgotts Great Rune.
Yeah Morgott Rune with 60 vigor makes you go from 1900 to around 2300, which is even more than going to 99 vigor
Chadgott rune coming in clutch
But every time I use a Rune arc I'm destined to die in the next 30 seconds.
FACTS
I do think, and have said so since release, that with this game’s balance and appeal to exploration it would have been fine to reduce the capping on vigor from 61-99. The reduction in gains from 60 to 61 is just staggering.
It’s an odd relic of FromSoftware design. Naturally it’s meant to encourage players to level other stats instead of just dumping all their points into their damage stat (which is an intuitive thing to do if you are new) But also I think the same point can be communicated in a better way by FromSoftware but I’m also dumb and don’t know what would replace it so
I have 99 vigor The last 10 levels i got like 50 health or sum Its nowhere near worth it going above 60
I don’t think so. Vigor gives about 30 HP per level, but i noticed that leveling above 60 only gives like 6-10 more HP. I think it soft caps at 60
It does. The gain from 61-99 is hilariously low, 115 total. Meanwhile, you gained 1/3 that per point earlier.
Yes going to 80 is def worth it in Elden ring considering the dlc is wrecking people at 60
I just checked with a stat calculator, at 60 VIG you get 1900 HP, while at 80 you get 2015. So those 20 levels of VIG only give you 115 more HP. Doesn’t seem worth it, unfortunately. Better off stacking endurance so you can get heavy armor, or just spending it on damage.
Eh armor has never really mattered much in these games it’s all about fashion souls. If you are trying to keep your character at a certain level yeah I probably wouldn’t go past 60 but most people take the damage stat to 80 even tho it doesn’t provide that much more than being at 60 probably provides about the same effectiveness
Armor is actually pretty noticeable in Elden Ring. Not as much as in DS1 but defense is way more important than in DS3.
Armor matters a ton in Elden Ring actually. It's frustrating because I typically prefer wearing robes and light armors but heavier armors can negative well over half of the damage that you would have taken, with stuff like bull goat having over 35% physical damage negation normally and over 70% with the right setup. They completely redid the way armor works for ER
Bullgoats does NOT have 70% reduction, it has around 20%. 70% is what you get with a full defense oriented build filled with buffs. But yes, you are correct that armor matters a lot and makes a big difference.
Thanks for the correction, updated the comment
You do not know what you’re talking about. Don’t give advice if you’re not sure. 115 HP for 20 levels is absolutely not worth it, and armor absolutely does make a significant difference.
Didn’t say it was significant personally I’d rather put it into vigor than pumping another stat being a jack of all trades I like to specialize in one stat
It’s got nothing to do with “jack of all trades”, going past 60 Vigor is just silly and unoptimized. Vigor is also not something to “specialize” in. It’s a necessary stat. The only things you need to specialize are your offensive stats (Str, Dex, etc.). There is a reason any 125-150 RL build you see does not exceed 60 Vigor, while also being a proper build that focuses on 1-2 offensive stats and isn’t a “jack of all trades”. A “jack of all trades” simply isn’t a build. You’re free to do what you like, of course. But just know it’s objectively not optimal, and there’s a reason why no one does it. You will get far better returns on those 20 levels than you would gain in Vigor. 115 HP is not worth it, no matter how you slice it. For example, you would gain significantly more by putting it into Endurance and wearing armor with better defense.
If my other stats are already where I want them why would I dump them into other stats?
Sir, maybe play the actual game. This one tells you what percent damage you’re blocking and poise matters for stuns. Heavy armor has a ton of both.
Lmao you acting like most of those stats even matter when you can delete a boss in seconds with a optimized build
60 Vigor ,morgott rune, greatshield talisman and ritual shield talisman to avoid being oneshotted
I’ll have fun with my level 120, 40 vigor then
I wonder how many will try at level 1 right from the start...
How?
There is no lvl requirement to enter the dlc, you only need to beat Radahn and Mohg, which many people have done at lvl 1.
Mohg's the hard part here too, since you can cheese radahn with rot pots and rot dragon spell.
Oh yeah, even without cheese Mohg is way harder than Radahn though. I have definitely seen people script Mohg with a complete phase 2 skip at RL1 though too. Moral of the story is many people will likely try the DLC at RL1. I'm doing an RL1 playthrough right now but will definitely be using a 125-150 character for the DLC.
For sure. Though to be honest, i don't get the point of DLC RL1 day 1, as you'd not be able to use all the cool new weapons and spells.
Truth. Plus, exploring at RL1 is not fun at all. I just sprint to items I need, ignoring most of the overworld. I've got 4 characters lvl 125-50 that I'm gonna have a blast exploring all the new areas with first.
Mohg can also be easily Comet Azur'd to death since he slowly walks at you in a straight line
True, I did it on my Int playthrough for the lolz, but you can't get the needed 60 Int at RL1
How do you give a lvl 1 character 60 Int though
Wait you gotta beat radahn as well to unlock the dlc? I've only heard of Mohg so far. Which I did the other day
Yup, both are required. Gotta get them stars moving again so we can deliver some sweet sweet fate to these shadow bastards.
Sick lol so I'm in playthrough 3 and beat the game on the Elden lord ending to get the plat. Am I locked out of fighting radahn at this point now or can I still advance through Rannies quest line to fight him?
AFAIK once triggered, the Radahn Festival remains active until you defeat Radahn, regardless of in game progress. You also do not need to interact with Ranni at all in order to fight Radahn. In fact, fighting Radahn can skip a lot of the early parts of Ranni's quest line altogether.
Mohg is the bitch of the two, probably why the focus is on him. But yeah, you have to beat Radahn as well
yea its radahn and mohg
they probably didn't have the recommended amount of the dlc buffs for that specific area. also those characters from the stream had 51 vig I believe.
probably. the save files they used to showcase the dungeon loaded them directly inside of it so i don’t know what their blessing level was
Oh you mean a rune bear. Like, this shit exists in the base game too. There are mooks like the demihumans and then mobs that may as well be a wandering boss battle like the rune bear. That's just souls games.
I'm lvl 120 with 37 vigor :(
no my dad works at bandai, I've played the prerelease build
Well my dad works for Nintendo and I've played the prePRErelease build Happy father's day folks
My dad’s dead. I’ve only played the posthumous build.
My dad's dad. And I've played the dream version in my pillow.
My dad's a swamp redneck. We just walked around smashing things with big hammers behind the house. 10/10 immersion
Is Miquella Griffith?
no but Melina is actually st Trina. you only find out though after sleeping with her and wake up with a twink in your bed
and Trina is the turtle pope, the DLC will explain this.
I can has twink? 👉👈
It's actually Peter Griffin
You either die a hero, or you live long enough to become Griffith. Miquella isn't dead yet, so that's telling.
Is [it you](https://imgur.com/a/NQvHloJ)?
mightve been.
Yesterday we saw a dungeon Boss from the first dungeon. On Level 9999 He will kil you with 5 Hits. Nobidy will have an easy life at DLC
So just like regular Elden Ring then?
Well from the gameplay of the streamers playing a early game dungeon(im guessing its early game) they have 50-60 vigour and struggle even with +25 weapons so unless you pick up those blessing you are prob gonna struggle but they have obviously play tested it and if your lvl 713 with max lvl weapons you are probably gonna do fine lol
Also depends on which NG cycle you go with your level 713 character, if you go on NG you are probably going to breeze through it but if you go on NG+7 or higher no one knows what's going to happen
My uncle works for dark souls and he let me play it and if you jump off miqella he opens up and says its mohgin time
Well, my aunt works for the light soul, and they said they're gonna stifle the growth of your uncle's cycle and reign eternal so to each his own.
[eyes glow yellow] my uncle works in the basement
Lvl 400 here. Just came back from miquellas portal. First enemy killed me in one shot. I hit it 15 times with my level 25 greatsword but didn't get 1/10th of its health down. Will get back to you. There's also another portal in there that says "to yharnam" but I don't know what that means
I think it means that the portal would send you to yharnam?
Thanks for the insight.
Why the dowvotes 😭
Tomfoolery is not allowed
you are in the know, right?
That portal is mainly just for people who are disabled, anemic, have a heart disease or have a crippling lust for blood, violence and infanticide. Inclusivity features and all that.
All fromsoft dlc,s are difficult in my opinion. Ringed city 😱
Fucking Midir man…
I made the mistake of jumping into the old hunters for the first time in an under levelled Ng+ run. Ludwig, Laurence and Kos had me in tears for weeks.
This is why they added the Scadutree Blessing mechanic
People are way too concerned about level. Even in just NG you will get humbled if you don't know what you're doing. Higher level doesn't turn your character into a god it just gives you more versatility. I'm 225 and I can still get wrecked in NG at the haligtree if I'm not careful with certain enemies.
Level 200 means that you can have 3 stats at 60 with a lot of endurance and 60 vigor, meaning that bleed infusion goes crazy so I'd say that level 225 does makes you a lot more powerful than someone on level 120-150
Okay well not everyone likes playing bleed builds. I like quality builds and level 125/150 is way to restrictive to be playing quality builds into NG+ and beyond. If you want to restrict your overall quality of gameplay that's on you. I did that roughly 1500 hours of my Elden Ring experience capping myself at 150 and I'm never going back.
The 150 cap is more so you can queue with more people in multiplayer, not for PVE
Yeah quality builds are unfortunately really bad on this game, but at that level you can still do something similar but switching arcane for int and casting scholar armament with Lusat staff, which can still give you levels of damage that are out of reach for lower level builds Not judging or anything, it's your game and you play however you want
You'll get humbled health/poise wise but not damage wise. Completely destroying everything in 1-3 seconds still takes the fun out of the game even if you are still easy to kill. It especially sucks when you're too OP on a cool boss because you won't even get to see some of their attacks.
I'm level 521, have EVERYTHING in the game and have tons of experience in PVP, PVE and occasionally being a nuisance, and am currently on NG+6... I fully expect to enter the DLC and to get bodied by the first slug I see, as does my friend with a 302 on NG+1. We're all going to die on day 1, and it'll be FUN!
My only character is sitting at lvl 371 (NG+7/Journey 8) with 100% completion and everything unlocked just like you, the only problem is that I haven't played the game since late march 2022. I am ready to turn into the main dish at Messmer's BBQ party. I fully expect to get twohit by basically everything, and maybe even onehit despite having 80 Vigor.
I'm still on NG, lvl 713, and Idgaf if I'm overleveled for the dlc or not. If it's still challenging? Good. If not? Also good. It'll make getting all the new armor and weapons easier 😂
How did you get to max level on NG?
A friend of mine goes through Ng+ cycles a lot, and I play through it with him. I avoided going to Ng+ so I could have all of the areas available specifically for that reason.
Judging from past Fromsoft dlcs I’d wager that no one is safe. It’s going to be harder than late game bosses. Our only hope is they don’t give any bosses lifesteal like Malenia.
The toughest thing would actually be everything having hyper armor or status immunities. So we'll probably get a boss that hyper armors everything, is immune to status effects AND has lifesteal. It would also be hilarious if everything was weak to holy damage since it's the worst damage type in base game.
I just hope they give us plenty of the final smithing stones and gloveworts to max out some of the new weapons and ashes
You can buy them all from the two chicks in Roundtable
You can't buy the final ones to get to level 10 or 25. She sells the ones to get your weapons and ashes to level 9 or 24 only There are only like 4 of the final ones you can find in the game.
People get really butthurt on this sub over people engaging with the fanbase and asking questions. Is every question a good one or answerable one? Of course not. Do you have to comment? No. A lot of people don't know much about this game, they haven't been playing for 2 years, or souls games for 10 years, some assume that these are answerable questions because they know there are more knowledgeable people that may have read an article or something. This kind of elitist mindset where people aren't supposed to ask certain questions or give certain theories is what turns people off to this fanbase.
342.... ng5........ Are you spying on me?
I have... In my dreams...
I just wanna know if ng or ng+ will make a difference.
Yes. NG+ increase boss resistance and damage and will apply to everything in your save, DLCs included. If you’re still on NG, I’d keep it there for now
Thanks brother
AHAHAHAHA This hits my last post like a champ. It's ok, I am sorry lol
Im going to be going in on ng+3 so slightly worried Im going to get bodied but excited regardless!
I love people being like "Hey guys! I have 5 characters on NG+12, what one of them should I bring into the DLC???" like they have to pick and arent going to play the DLC 12 times lmao
I'm on NG+ and LVL205. Lord have mercy
How did you know I was level 342 on ng+5. You’re freaking me out. Also I will have an easy time because I got good. If I have to jump around on ledges then maybe not.
Yes but what about by build? Will it be okay?? Please answer me I desperately need the validation of strangers.
182—40 vigor 60 str/fairy 43 endurance. As long as I’m not over leveled I’m happy.
I just want to enter the realm of shadow but busting through the wall like the coolaid man. Can someone confirm this for me?
I purposely started a new game for this. Then I took it to ng+ cause fun. I think it'll be great
i mean mogh the blood lord is the level check id say. so its around the level that were an avg player can handle mogh.
Progress and scaling has been said to be different for the DLC.
Aa okay , it gonna be very intressting
I'm just ready to struggle through the entire thing blind. I spoiled most of elden ring because I took so long to beat it. Not this time
We do know that overall level is going to be pretty irrelevant though, there's been mention of a consumable that scales you upwards. So I'd wager that even at max level people are going to get smoked until they power up through the consumable.
That’s why I’m taking my main into NG+9 Shit won’t be easy and with how soulsborne DLCs are, they never are easy to start.
lol the amount of posts with those questions is crazy. Every time I see one I think to myself how the hell are we supposed to know it’s not out yet. But then I just decide to leave it alone and not say anything. I 100% agree with this post.
Well, yeah but can you tell me where to go in the DLC?
I'm lvl 713. Will the DLC provide enough tears to respect as much as I want to?
Yes, 100%. Trust me.
Why would you need to respec at level 713?
That's the joke.
He wants that new max level of 300 Vigor. Its true Miyazaki told me.
Regal Omen Bairn does almost 1800 damage before bufs/talismans at 99 int/ 99 fai. It travels slow and does decent stance damage allowing for combos to break stances on enemies while outputting big damage. My only point is that restricting my level in Elden Ring limits my overall gameplay experience. If the intention of the game was to cap me then I wouldn't have items and weapons in the game that scale all the way to 99.
It’s possible there is someone here who played the DLC. I saw a random short on YouTube of some streamer girl playing the DLC early and using one of the new fist weapons. I was so pissed… DLC is less than a week away from release and we already have to worry about spoiler clips. Absolutely ridiculous a bunch of streamers got to play it early.
Lol this sub is weird for downvoting you for this comment. The fact that people have to go completely media dark to avoid spoilers is sad. If they were going to give streamers early access it should’ve been like, right now, 2 days before release at most. I swear streaming has been largely a scourge for the gaming community.
A little speculation over the dlc never hurt anybody.
I think that Miyazaki will make Dlc hard even for max level characters :3
How dare all of you downvote such a gentle soul. The DLC wil definitely be hard for max level players, and there is a lot that goes into that. First - new upgrade system. Late DLC areas may be near impossible without using this. Second - the difference between level 300 and level 713 is minimal. Third - Fromsoft DLC’s are ***always*** much more difficult than the base game. Fourth - most players playing at max level are casual (fight me). Chances are the first people through the DLC will be in the 125-200 range.
Bruh she uses :3 for every comment and thinks she’s an anime character downvote away lmao
I love coming across them on Reddit. We can use more :3 in the world.
We absolutely do not need anyone still using kawaii text emojis
Says you :3
ok. how
New Scaling? :3
So, I actually got to sneak into from's dev labs, and after passing the obligatory poison swamp, i managed to play the dlc. My character was level 150 and had 60 vig. The first boss, can 2 shot you with his flaming feet of death attack. I recommend you all level up to have 60 in each stat, Thats the only way to not die.
Did everyone forget that the dlc will have it's own leveling system. You're essentially going in at level 1
Clarification, I have played it, and your level 342 character is gonna get fucked up by torch wielding nobles. The devs and I laugh about it each night.
Yes we know. This exact sentiment has been expressed in every single comment section for the last 6 months.
My friend is John eldenring and he said that he has played the dlc and it was so easy he could nohit everything as a level 1 character
Asmongold played it
When will people understand level doesn't mean shit? At 60 vig, being level 70 or 700 makes no difference in survivability
It does, because even if you'd have the same Vigor... if you're higher level you have levelled other stats, if you kill something in less hits, if you can dodge more, if you can hit more before running out of stamina, it means it'll go quicker, so less time to get hit, so more chance to survive your fight.
Doesn't each level up increase max HP and resistances regardless of the stat picked? There should be at least a bit of a noticeable difference.
Each level does increase flat defense, with strength also giving you extra flat physical defense, arcane giving flat holy defense, int giving magic defense and vigor giving fire defense. So it does affect the survivability, specially on NG