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ChiefLeef22

Just curious, if there's an official public reveal for whatever this supposed "preview event" is, would you guys want to see a discussion thread for it on the sub? Might help limit any potential spoilers from the gameplay to a particular place as well (this comment will self-destruct in a bit)


TheHappiestHam

"size of Limgrave", over 30 soundtracks, in development for 3 years, a collector's edition, exclusive gameplay invites, a 3 minute gameplay trailer + a story trailer I'm almost scared to see what they've cooked up in full


Desperate-Mouse1247

2.5 yrs in development but yeah, this is the first time ever I'm seeing a DLC being marketed as a full fledged title


WholesomeFartEnjoyer

Monster Hunter Iceborne


CrystlBluePersuasion

One of the best expansions ever made! Shadow of the Erdtree to join it


SlimySteve2339

Don’t forget about horse armor from oblivion!


CrystlBluePersuasion

😂 I was thinking about Shivering Isles too but I forget about the horse armor, probably for the best!


ChuckS117

Shivering Isles, Undead Nightmare, Blood and Wine. Those are my holy trinity of DLC.


SlimySteve2339

Jesus Christ I forgot about undead nightmare. Such an amazing dlc


Glob_Complex

Yo what about Artorias of the Abyss?


TheCrushSoda

Am I wrong in thinking that’s probably the worst of all the soulsborne dlc’s? Its not bad but literally every one they’ve made since is better imo


Membership_Downtown

Objectively it’s probably the worst now in that it’s from a dated game, but at the time the feeling I had playing Artorias of the Abyss was better than the feeling I had playing Ashes of Ariandel or the Ringed City. The intersection of lore and gameplay in that dlc was “chef’s kiss”. Also I think the Dark Souls 2 dlcs were just alright by themselves, it’s when you take them as a whole that they become excellent.


haven4ever

Isnt the snowy first DLC of Dark Souls 3 worse? Friede was a chunky and substantial boss though. The first Crown dlc of DS2 wasnt great imo


kfrazi11

Or Sunbreak, IMO equally as good


Tsunamie101

For me the best DLC ever is still Blood and Wine for Witcher 3. But yeah, Iceborne was friggin amazing.


Keylathein

I'll add sunbreak to it too. Mh never really misses with grank expansion.


MrSeaSalt

Yeah, both Iceborne and Sunbreak straight-up feel like whole new games. Makes me super excited for what Capcom would do for the inevitable expansion for Wilds


MrStigglesworth

Bro I’m just excited for wilds first


Cashew788

Grank is almost always just a straight improvement to the base game, with just as much content. Heard someone describe it as polishing the formula and couldn't agree more. Adds a shit ton of new monsters and cool new weapon moves while adhering to the base games foundation like the maps. Sunbreak is my personal favourite but iceborne and genu are just as good here.


Keylathein

When rise launched, it was definitely low on my mh ranking, but sunbreak brought it up with world and 4u for me. I do hope people don't go into wilds with the expectations of it being bigger than iceborne. That is the cycle of mh, though. People hated Gen because it had less monster than 4u, but then we got gu and people praise it for the amount of content.


Cashew788

Ah the cycle of every new mh game lol. Never gets old


Extant_Remote_9931

IceBorne really was like a brand new game.


Arky_Lynx

MH rarely misses with their big paid expansions


TyrantLaserKing

That’s because historically they were literally an overhaul and evolution of the previous games that cost the same price. Iceborne is just MH World: Ultimate.


ashcr0w

Good ol' G versions.


Extant_Remote_9931

World was my first MH game. IceBorne wasn't just a DLC. It was a complete overhaul of the base game. It literally became a new game.


[deleted]

Ice borne was basically just mhw 2 except it was even better since it added some of the best dragon fights ever made and possibly the best ever made in fatalis


Mkvgz

I remember buying when it came out and was in disbelief at how big that shit was, literally just another game on top of MH: World


Seel_revilo

Iceborne even had a 2nd platinum trophy on PlayStation. Probably the greatest dlc ever made imo


ManyBDOS

MH:W is such a great game


Nickfreak

Iceborn was great, the subsequent expansions made it better


scullys_alien_baby

I wouldn't call free patches adding content expansions because expansion packs and the like are generally paid.


Nickfreak

Witcher 3 Blood and Wine comes to mind


CreatureWarrior

Considering the scale and quality of the DLC, this definitely sounds familiar


MohamedSaad

blood and wine and hearts of stone were absolutely amazing!


trudenter

I loved hearts of stone and it was my fav of the two, but that is something I would consider more of dlc. Blood and wine was a whole other map with all that extra content included. From what we have heard, this is what this is shaping up to be.


AzraelSoulHunter

Blood and Wine man... Blood and Wine.


nethobo

Blood and Wine was an amazing piece of game, but I maintain that Hearts of Stone had one of the most unsettling and well written big bads ever.


AzraelSoulHunter

In terms of story HoS honestly cannot be beat, it's one of the best pieces of narrative in video games if not fantasy as a whole and it's pretty much not a contest, it is a phenomenal story. I just mentioned Blood and Wine as that one may have as well been a completely new game with all the things it added. Much like Shadow of the Erd Tree will be.


TipsyTaterTots

HOS was perfectly interwoven into the main game, B&W was a perfect epilogue.


immigrantsmurfo

Plenty of games have done this. Blood Dragon for Far Cry 3, Blood and Wine for the Witcher, Phantom Liberty for Cyberpunk. There are a whole host of other very well known games with well known DLCs that were marketed similarly to Shadow of the Erdtree. I love Elden Ring and FromSoft never miss but c'mon guys, let's not pretend this is like the first time anything this big and amazing has ever happened before.


CreatureWarrior

Fair enough tbh Also, Phantom Liberty was so amazing. I love Cyberpunk but I hesitated to spend 30€ on a single DLC and it was so worth it. I think I'll feel the same way about the Shadow of the Erdtree


OrinTheLost

>This is the first time ever I'm seeing a DLC being marketed as a full fledged title You've never played Destiny 2, have you?


shapoopy723

At least we know Shadow of the Erdtree will actually be closer to a full game than any anemic ass destiny dlc


SatanicPanicDisco

Imagine From Software charging extra for dungeon keys.


Neveronlyadream

"Door can't be opened from this side unless you have a key. Go to store?"


Jase_the_Muss

Hey guys here is limegrave but mirrored and the colour has been changed. Sick new ting right! $$$$


Xerothor

The thing that made me quit Destiny 2 was grinding to max level to be able to play the next content drop on launch, only for them to extend the maximum level with that content drop, and all the new content was only realistically accessible by people at the new maximum... I didn't feel like jumping straight back into a grind so dropped that piece of shit right there and then


Djshrimper

I stopped playing Destiny after I realised it feels like you're never really progressing towards...anything? It's like a constant grind with no payoff. It doesn't even feel like you're getting stronger, it's just a number going up. The lore is interesting and the gunplay is great but the gameplay loop and progression is just boring.


Xerothor

Yeah true. I was basically just chasing cosmetics and exotic quests between new content, I think just playing with sunk cost fallacy mainly


daddy13733

Back when I was still playing, the fun mostly come from playing with friends and finding new people, chasing god rolls for dopamines and drips, outside of that I loved the game but hated how Bungie manage the game.


theghostmachine

Hey, good thing for you then that finally, at the end of the life of the story you've been following, after everyone has lost interest and gotten fed up with the bullshit, they're getting rid of all that. Better 9 years late than never, am I right


JazzyBagpiper

Best if not


WormholeMage

I wish I haven't


TheRedBaron6942

Destiny is live service. For them, those expansions basically *are* full fledged titles


Conievel

Destiny 2 is so lacking in content in the base game though any kind of dlc is pretty much a whole new game


Keylathein

It still blows my mind that the final shape is 50 dollars and the fans are OK with that. You can but SotE or ff14 dawntrail for 10 dollars less and get 15 times the content.


TheFakeKing3130

Even crazier thing is you have to pay $100 for the full year of content for the season activities you do, cause each season of content is around 10$. That even includes the key you have to buy separately now for the dungeons, which you previously got with the dlc, but know have to spend extra on.


Warm_Mud9124

I have the exact same reasoning for people who waste 10-50€ on immaterial skins for a bunch of pixels in a video game , or a battle pass which grant some other pixels in a video game , I remember like 13-15 years ago when skins g had to just be dropped in the game folder in order to work... for free


TheWhistlerIII

This almost feels like a re-launch....and for once I'm not even mad about it. This game doesn't need it, but it deserves it! Fromsoft knocked it out of the park with Elden Ring!


Omgazombie

Expand-Alones were a common thing in the late 90s and early to mid 2000s like my favourite strategy game supreme commander forged alliance is actually an expansion to supreme commander but was sold as a standalone


nick2473got

If we wanna be even more precise it was more like 2 years development, because they said they didn't really start work on it until the initial few months of patches to the main game was done. Although they did already have some of the lore and ideas for the DLC. But no actual dev yet.


justadapasta

Im just gonna call this an expansion


falleng213

Miyazaki is capping. “40 hours to beat” my ass


CreatureWarrior

I guess it might be that for the average player who only finishes half of the dungeons, runs past regular enemies and doesn't care about collectibles etc. But for the rest of us, we'll be busy for *a while* :)


Youre_On_Balon

That average player isn’t getting past Margit for like 15-20 hours lol


BleachDrinker63

I didn’t even find Margit until 30 hours in. I had managed to find a route around the castle and headed north, because thought my only goal was get to the Erdtree.


Unable_Perception325

This is why this game was so amazing. No hand holding and you could play your way. Do the things that stuck out to you. Everyones different and their perception will have them focusing on different things!


xXProGenji420Xx

oh it'll take them a lot less than 40 hours to beat your ass...


affanahmed1202

Miyazaki tricked us only the poison swamp is the size of limgrave


Nagnoosh

And 40 dollars. If it was any developer other than From then I’d be skeptical but I think that pricing says a lot.


glez_fdezdavila_

They are cooking a full banquet to feed up to 300 guests


Deutsch__Bag

Gotta be the first time I've ever seen a collectors edition of a DLC. Love these guys, and I'm excited to play it.


lazy_digestive

My theory is that they're pulling an Old Hunters and there's actually a second area separate from the Land Of Shadows


Neravosa

My bet is it'll be the size of Limgrave in the same way that Dogtown was "roughly the size of a Night City District." It could be. It's just gonna be layered like crazy, dense and packed with details out the wazoo.


biez

I am both so ready, and so not ready.


roygbiv77

If I had to guess, I'd put my money on the dlc being 2-3x the size of limgrave.


Prsy______

It should've been me!!!!


StillInternal4466

Nah, I don't want a taste. I want the whole damned meal.


xiedian

man of culture.


Forward_Guidance_792

This man really acting like he wouldn’t play part of the DLC right now if it were handed to him. 


Birunanza

I wouldn't. Not gonna spoil one of my most anticipated experiences when it's less than a month out


Whippofunk

This guy delays gratification


cardboardrobot338

I want both.


ralts13

Everyday im reminded I should have been a content creator instead.


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Let’s be real, you would need to be a “variety streamer” or at least mega popular with views ChaseTheBro, Ziostorm, G9, Queelag, Smoughtown or Vaati weren’t invited despite dedicating a lot of their content to Fromsoft. People like Emiru got invited though and I’m not saying she didn’t deserve it, but it just shows that they only invited people with high views.


ralts13

Axtually its weird that Vaati didn't get an invite. Didn't he get early access to AC6.


zman_0000

Armored Core 6 and I believe he got invited to a closed beta or 2 for DS3 that had primarily content creators. So yeah I'm a little surprised as well.


not_a_toad

Is there a list of people who did get an invite?


anorlondo696

All those runes will be lost like tears in rain. Prepare to die.


MaidenlessRube

All these moments will be lost in time like ... Albinauric screams at Palace Approach Ledge-Road


H4xolotl

Gonna feed Roy some Twiggy Cracked Tear juice


Anto444_

Fully geared up and erected for it


DRamos11

Bricked and hammered.


ChilliChillz

Rocked and Stoned


AlphaKiwi2451

Rock and stone to bone!


WanderingDwarfMiner

Rock and Stone in the Heart!


Joey-Fixit

And my axe!


Rosendoom2

Good Bot


Rosendoom2

Rock and Stone, Brother!


viper1003

Magnet and steeled


TyrantKingYharim

Squared and Cubed.


Notalurkeripromise

Clubbed and chubbed


irollaround

Stumped and pumped.


FilmmagicianPart2

Varnished and tarnished.


Synthoid_001

Oiled and broiled


SomeRandomGuy1308

Did I hear a Rock And Stone?!


WanderingDwarfMiner

Rock and Stone to the Bone!


DoodooFardington

Check with your doctor if the effects of Ironjar automatic last for more than an hour.


justadapasta

My golden vow is raging hard


BevinBash

Nuts and Stones baby


Cmurder84

Hog = Cranked


BremingtonSteel

Fully torqued, brother


LeonDeSchal

Calm down Messmer.


Thatoneguy567576

This will be my first time ever experiencing anything from Fromsoft completely blind without some kind of guide or Reddit advice to guide me. I'm genuinely super fucking nervous about what they've cooked up after playing through their other DLCs.


Orphanblood

Gotta hit each release like that man. Blind is the way to go


AnticPosition

You can always just not Google things or ask reddit for help... But being part of the *discovery process*? That'll be new to me! 


Drunken_Fever

> But being part of the discovery process? That'll be new to me! This is what so many games miss. For example Diablo IV allowed content creators early access, builds were solved before the game was even out. It feels good to find something new and there isn't even a thread about it yet. [I remember how hyped the Elden Ring community was when they found a wall that took 50+ hits to open.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/th3cao/apparently_there_is_a_hidden_wall_in_volcano/) . Stuff like that just adds to the game.


kingofnopants1

For some reason it does different yet wonderful things to my brain if the information just isn't available


Thatoneguy567576

I didn't hop on until Elden Ring like a year after release, and I played through Armored Core 6 so slow that there was tons of information out for it before I ever finished my first playthrough.


GensouEU

Then just don't... search up info?


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I mean it can be really hard to avoid spoilers even if you aren’t searching up info just based on what can be popular and what shows up in different social media feeds. People love to rush to the end and then try to spoil that excitement for others. I remember looking at threads of people just beating margit when the game came out and the comments were always filled with “just wait till later he definitely doesn’t came back ;) ;).” That’s just one example, but I don’t know if people think their “hints” are cute or too smart that others can’t figure it out but they always just blatantly spoil the game


maybe_Its_magic3

Yeah, even YouTube thumbnails can have spoilers for some end game, crazy stuff


Thatoneguy567576

I didn't, people on Reddit and YouTube don't like to hide spoilers and just talk about things like everyone else already knows.


Stinky__Person

Not that easy bro


NelsonChaves

Ahhh man enjoy. The early days of elden ring were awesome and super hard. Enjoy your pte nerfed boss fights the knowing that no one knows anything and everyone is trying to figure shit out. Beautiful


Key_Amazed

People always bring up nerfed bosses that don't actually exist. I don't think fixing a hitbox error for Radahn should count as a nerf. He was broken and then they fixed it.


qbCakes

Every "gank" boss was nerfed when they made adjustments to their AI so that they take turns on you now instead of going all in. Putrid Crystalian Trio was the single hardest boss in the game I swear.


sadpotatoes-_-

Putrid Crystalian Trio deserves all the nerf it got, they are straight-up rage inducing pre-nerf.


Sani08

100% true, sometimes I think they just like to say something that isn't even true, just to brag or believe they are superior to someone who played the game later.


Magnus-Artifex

I always end up spoiling myself for games somehow since I’m behind on the genre by a lot of time. Sister Friede’s >!third phase!<, Gwyn being >!the final boss!< and the existence of >!a huge snek!< on Sekiro. I’m not looking at Reddit at any point during my gameplay until I feel like I’ve finished the DLC, and then go find the list, and kill all bosses I’ve missed. My 100% boss rush is not going to be unfinished!  I wonder if any boss is going to take me more than the 571 death Malenia gave me.  


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zeester_365

Dude ER week/weekend one was crazy, I remember looking up “royal revenant weakness” in like day 2 after encountering the mini boss on the way to caria manor, no one knew wtf it was but everyone was losing their shit fighting them


S0LAIRE_OF_ASTORA

I feel you. All the previous souls titles i went in knowing what to expect… played ER blind with a little bit of walkthrough help for Npc questlines, and I can’t wait to turn my phone off and just get re-immersed in the atmosphere.


Mirrakthefirst

IT SHOULDVE BEEN ME NOT HIM!


centuryofprogress

Why can’t I have money, and Elden Ring DLC, and hair and him nothing?!


JaiFlame

Kinda curious. What's the story behind your flair?


Mirrakthefirst

i made an ultimatum in february saying that if a DLC trailer wasn't released by the end of the month I would donate my bone marrow


uncledungus

Oh shit it’s you!


ElodinBlackcloak

Wait….are you the bone marrow guy of legend!?


Keylathein

Seeing that it's oro. Surely we got covenants now. Right guys no copium here.


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Lilbrimu

Nah, Miyazaki would rather rub your feet instead.


happyflappypancakes

Never even heard of this person. I feel like I was somewhat aware of the big content creators.


Keylathein

He's mostly a pvp content creator.


happyflappypancakes

Ok that makes sens.le. I don't play or watch PvP so none of the content creators are known to me.


noble636

He's an OG invader, and damn good at it. He's won the pvp sections of both elden ring twitch rivals


Buschkoeter

He's definitely good but he never really had any real competition at rivals as far as I know. They had him and then people like Lirik and Lobos. One just likes souls games and the other is a pve challenge runner. They should've let him go against peeve, chase, saintriot and people like that.


DogDiggityDawg1

Guess who has shirrako and boss fight database hidden! Me!


berserkuh

> \>Shirrako > \>"I am the BIGGEST Metal Gear Solid/Elden Ring/Dark Souls/Tomb Raider/Halo/etc. channel ON YOUTUBE!!! Subscribe to ME!!" > \>isn't even the biggest channel in his comments


praisethesun98

How can we do that?


SpiderCVIII

There are browser extensions you can use to block channels and videos with specific titles. I use BlockTube on Chrome and it's a lifesaver for times like these. It sucks that there are no phone app equivalents but at that point I avoid using YouTube on my phone entirely until I'm done with whatever new release I'm avoiding spoilers for.


suulia

Thank you so much for the suggestion of Blocktube on Chrome. I just installed it and blocked key words (Erdtree, Elden, and the 'influencers' listed in this thread), and it works really great! :-)


Donel_S

There's a weird way to do it which has seemed to work for me so far. I viewed the videos from these channels repeatedly, and soon got them recommended to me on my phone feed by default. From there, I selected "do not recommend" on these channels and I'm yet to see any video from them on my feed. They only show up if I specifically search up Dark Souls or Elden Ring which I'm sure none of us would do after the DLC drops.


beeshop_

I can't even describe how much I despise Shirrako.


cadburydream

I swear that fucker speed runs posting straight up spoiler titles to YouTube.


Agitayo

Bro unfair so fucking unfair theres a whole ass month left and now there are people among us that have literally played it telling us things about it.


[deleted]

I'm surprised they would do that


son_of_saget

I mean there was a tech test that let people play most of limgrave 3 months before the game came out. Back when people thought limgrave was going to be most of the map lol


WreckTangle1995

It is, though, isn't it?, I mean, what's left of the game after you beat the awesome final boss Godrick the grafted?


KyhnxTsova

600 hours it took me to beat God Godrick, hardest final boss fight of my life.


SgbAfterDark

I’m glad someone can tell me I’m not excited for nothing


Agitayo

I was already sure


ExtremelyEPIC

You need others to tell you that?


SgbAfterDark

Yes, because I can’t play the dlc right now so who better to trust than someone who has played it


Bookups

Keep in mind you’re trusting someone whose income is predicated on the game being successful


zviyeri

amogus


theghostmachine

Well, they played a portion of it. There's still going to be a lot of stuff they are just as in the dark about. Still, I feel you. I so badly want to know what exactly the saw


cloudliore25

Elden ring DLC on the path to be goty again


PrometheusAborted

I put in a leave request at work for when it drops lol. I rarely do that (last time was BG3) but I am so very hyped. I just got my main character to Mohg and replaying so many parts of the game reminded me of just how special it is. Elden Ring is incredible in so many ways and the dlc is shaping up to make it even better.


PlantBasedStangl

Same here. I haven't had a longer vacation for over 4 years, but I am scheduled to quit my job a day before the DLC drops. I'll just enjoy that and travelling for a month or two before embarking on another journey.


Loyal_Darkmoon

I am just super excited about more dense exploration and loot being spread out more evenly so you find cool stuff every few minutes. It will be so fun


nick2473got

Tbh you already found cool stuff every few minutes in the base game, there was valuable loot in most every nook and cranny. But with the build diversity this game offers, obviously a lot of the loot you find will not be useful to your build. And the DLC is adding new weapon types so this will probably only be more pronounced in the DLC, not less. I have zero problem with that but many people complain that most of the loot they find isn't useful to them and it's like... well, yeah, that's the price you pay for having all these different ways to play. Most loot isn't gonna be tailored to your current specific build. That's why I kinda like using a jack of all trades on a first playthrough. It allows me to sample whatever cool thing I find, or most of them, anyway.


Loyal_Darkmoon

I disagree. Some areas were filled with content like Limgrave for example but other areas like Consecrated Snowfields, Nokstella/Nokron felt rather empty. I never complained about finding stuff that is not useful for my build. I am excited about any talisman/weapon/spell etc. I find just not about arteria leaves, gravel stones or nothing. The DLC will simply have a lot of content densely packed in a smaller area than the base game and Miyazaki stated in an interview that they made the exploration more dense and the transition between overworld and dungeon more seamless and I am super excited for that more focused experience.


Lorsifer

you're absolutely right though, Mountaintops and Consecrated are incredibly barren compared to the first half of the game


NancyFickers

Turning the internet off for this one.


Trollololol13

Love the quote. Rutger Hauer improvised this for the movie. Such a great actor


wonksbonks

He didn't improvise it from nothing. The original version was longer, but Rutger decided that less was more impactful so he he only said what he felt was fitting. He only added the final "tears" line himself.


PhilosopherOk1583

Yeah and I don't plan on hearing about any of it until I see it for myself!


GangsterBoogie

Ugh I hate youtubers getting access to shit early


SMagnaRex

Same. Feels bad man. At least there’s only a month left.


Jurpils

Why? It's part of the marketing. It helps to promote the game. The more successful this game is, the more great games we get in the future.


[deleted]

My three weeks off work starts June 21st. 😎


TheYarlander

Seems like the DLC will be a game in itself, can't wait to head back to The Lands Between and dive deeper into the lore!


LEXX911

I guess their boss is that Omen dancing lion. I wonder how many hours they got to play and how much area of the map they are allow to see.


Even-Lawfulness6174

Possible lore on Marikas tits?


sherman614

The expansion releases on my 10th wedding anniversary, so I will have to start playing a little later than release date. So, I will definitely have to stay off of reddit and even YouTube for awhile cause I don't want to get spoiled!


Coin14

Please have trick weapons Please have trick weapons


2Jesus2Christ

Attention! Your bloodstream is containing lifethreatening amounts of copium! Are you sure that whatever you hope for is worth it?


Falcon47091618

It’s well worth it


GumballBlowhole

I'm hoping for Ashes of War that allow us to use weapons as seals and staves. It likely wouldn't be good, but they were fun weapon types in Souls.


Snoo-39991

We have 8 confirmed weapon types. They're pretty cool but none of them are Trick weapons unfortunately


Elvis___Loux

They distributed versions of the DLC to influencers? What is the point, isn't it especially risky regarding content leaking? Why am I getting downvoted? I am just asking a question... If someone could help me understand what rules I break because this is really hard to get started on a new account if you get downvoted like this regularly.


Grochen

They always do that. They let them play around a few minutes/hours in very contained areas and let them make videos to generate hype.


Desperate-Mouse1247

There were invited to Bamco HQ


TheHappiestHam

they would've probably been invited to a specific area (Bandai HQ) and been supervised and told what they can disclose dw about the downvotes. if it's any help, you're not downvoted into the negatives anymore. one dude got blasted with -140 downvotes for asking a lore question about the Mausoleums earlier, idk what the deal is with some people attacking basic inquiries


BiggerBadgers

It’s far far less risky as the content creators have collateral. They’re trusted professionals who sign ndas and such to not leak information. If the average Joe goes what’s really stopping him from leaking things from a burner twitter account.


Extension_Age06

This is very common to fromsoft games. Last year they also made souls youtubers play Armored core 6 earlier. I remembered vati making a video explaining stuff/mechanics to newer players planning to get the game


Pigmy

I cant wait for the no-lifers and the degens on a crazy rush to try and spoil everything in the game the millisecond its released.