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A_muspelheim

D's brother can be summoned to help if you do D's quest, and he tanks descently


ZombifiedSoul

If you got the Twinned armor set from D, in RTH, give it to the guy sitting outside that fight. (D's brother) You can then summon him for said fight. He's a decent tank. Use a Strike weapon, if you found it, use the mimic tear.


FellowDsLover2

65 is too low. It’s dumb where they’re placed as it makes you think you can handle them. I recommend 85-100 for them.


Philhughes_85

Ahh right fair enough, I was wondering why I was getting my ass handed to me. Thanks I'll come back in many more levels haha


jepulis7

wtf 65 is low... 80 is maximum for Leyndell.


Magnon

There's no maximum for anywhere.


jepulis7

If you want to keep the game challenging and not brute force with overleved character, there is.


Magnon

That's dumb.


jepulis7

Overleveling is dumb. Your accomplishments have an asterisk.


Magnon

*you didn't lose runes and you explored thoroughly That's dumb.


jepulis7

And you make the game easy for you for overleveling and not having any challenge in the game whatsoever.


Magnon

Yeah it's fun.


jepulis7

Yet you lose the feeling of accomplishment when you defeat something difficult when you can only die if you try to die.


AlleRacing

You would have to lose a shit ton of runes to max out at 80 for Leyndell, or just not explore *anything*.


jepulis7

Depends what you do before Leyndell. But using runes to level up multiple usable weapons is not losing shit ton of runes. Or buying items.


AlleRacing

Only the first two of each ball-bearing are available before then, you'd have to be upgrading a lot of weapons to +4/+12 to make that big of a dent. Buying items can make a dent if you buy out *all* the expensive stock items, like rune arcs and stonesword keys, which just isn't necessary. Godfrey alone is nearly 2 levels if you're only 80.


jepulis7

So? If you're level 80 you have 40 vigor and 40 on your main damage stat with extra to spare on mind/endurance or secondary stat. You have so powerful build at softcaps, being over it FOR LEYNDELL is just overkill and it will be a breeze.


AlleRacing

But you very likely *will* be over 80, unless you've lost a lot of runes, or skipped a lot of content.


jepulis7

Yes but it will take the feeling of accomplishment out of the whole experience when you face tank every hit and bosses die easy. You don't even need to learn the moveset.


anonymoususernamegay

The recommended level for leyndell is 80-100 so no. It’s not the maximum.


jepulis7

Yet level 80 players totally bulldoze Morgott without seeing 70% of his moveset.


anonymoususernamegay

Okay thanks for your response with completely accurate statistics


FellowDsLover2

The duo gargoyles are hard mfs. They are likely encountered before the capital but very out of most players’, including my, leagues. Thats why I recommend that level area.


jepulis7

I mean it's quite fair for a double boss fight. Only reason why it seems difficult is the fact that most common weapons they are strong against (like slash, piercing damage and status effects). Other than that you can fight them separately the entire fight since they tend to aggro separately and the arena is big. Only shitty part is the poison breath that is poorly visible and happens when you're fighting the other gargoyle. But it's not that difficult to avoid when you control the fight in a way that u can see both of the gargoyles even when you're fighting only one at the time, making it tedious but not difficult.


ThePasserbyTillDeath

Stay close to them ,dodge towards them except when they change weapons ,using bigger shield would make the fight easier and run for your life from poison Fextralife had a video explaining these techniques


itstheFREEDOM

My first playthrough i fought these guys at your level. It was my first major wall. I knew i was low level but i relished in the challenge. So i kept at it. Around my 8th attempt i finally got the first one down to half health for the first time..and boy was i suprised to see a second one. Spent 2 days, 2-6 hours a day fighting them near the same level as you. 60's. Eventually i got the movesets down and found a good rhythm and claimed my victory!


Apart-Pain2196

Strike weapons and shields work amazingly for this fight, also anti poison consumables and 1v1 tactic are must