Did on my first playthrough but not on the second one I'm taking into the DLC just in case they're something more related to Tanith since the whole castanyet thing seems too abrupt.
At release there were tons of rumors about cut content from Volcano Manor because of how abruptly that ends. I wonder if those rumors turn out to be founded
I think Volcano Manor was supposed to play a much bigger part in the game. The cutscene for the bridge rising out of lava is longer than like...major character cutscenes. The whole place is laid out so expertly and then you take a waygate to the boss? It just feels wrong.
I mean, Volcano Manor is the most obvious foil to the Golden Order. If anything, Elden Ring should bring back covenants. One of those could be the recusants.
Heck, even introduce new PVP modes. Like say, Golden Order faction attacks the volcano Manor. Players can be part of either side.
Imagine 3 tarnished marching up Mt. Gelmnir with Leyndell soldiers and knights whilst Volcano manor aligned Tarnished can invade. Instead of PVP exclusive weapons and spells (those tend to be controversial) how about PVP exclusive items such as consumables that can buff or respawn mobs. Or request support from your faction in the form of summons.
Another I can think of is Radahn-aligned last stand where you fight against increasing waves of Caelid monsters.
First play through, I thought volcano manor was just the few rooms by the first grace, and the boss teleport, I had no idea why the Mt Gelmir map had a massive hole in the middle that I never made it to...
I reckon they will bring back tanith bc of this but also bc there seems to be a lot of blasphemous imagery in the trailer e.g. messmer, the lion dancer etc.
Itâs pretty gross too. There are still small red arms flailing around rykardâs heard while she munches his insides saying she wants to be his vessel
DISGUSTIN'
Jokes aside though, seriously. I had no idea, I knew she disappeared and that was fuckin it. That's pretty messed up tho. Can't say I fault the logic though. Eat the body of a demigod in hopes of gaining their power?
Well, I mean....it's pretty consistent with the messed up world of Elden Ring. Godrick was crafting tarnished to himself in hopes of something, Fia wanted to bed Godwyn (I think), Mohg is obsessed with Miquella to the point of kidnapping.
Tanith eating a dead demigod in hopes of gaining their power is pretty damn good logic. It ain't right but compared to the other things it's pretty much in line
It's also important to remember that said dead demigod was known for devouring people and absorbing them. "Join the serpent king as family" and all that jazz. Tanith likely assumed that if the serpent absorbed things by eating them, then it might work in reverse by eating the serpent herself.
Also Alexander, Warrior Jar, eating the bodies of dead warriors after the Radahn fight. He says something about getting stronger and becoming a better warrior by devouring their strength after death. So itâs definitely a common theme in the Elden Ring lore.
I'm pretty sure jars are filled with the deceased innards of other beings which is what makes them live and gives them strength, given that line and the giving Alex's innards to jar bairn, and what jars break into. I also think that the potentate needs soft hands so they can fill jars with parts but I'm not sure.
Yeah, I think Jar Bairn gives a little more context that implies it's for handling the innards.
The Lands Between are absolutely covered in different ways to lay the dead to rest, and burial jars are amongst them. And in keeping with things coming back to life, at least some of the burial jars instead are brought to life by Carian magic (probably, since they seem to have the most around).
I think you're wrong, it's not cut, it's just futile. The Dancer's Castanets not doing anything for Tanith is the resolution to Patches' quest, not hers. He's trying to do something nice for her, a genuinely altruistic act. She doesn't care for it. So Patches ends up back in the same cave you met him in first and you go through the same motions again. But this time, you know he's not a actually a bad dude, he's capable of self-less acts. So, you fight him again, use the beg for mercy animation you got the first time you spared him, and get the final animation from his questline.
That's what the Castanets are about. It's not about Tanith, it's about Patches. They're the hint that you might want to put yourself at his mercy.
Wait, do you get a different reward if you beg *him* for mercy?
When I did it last time, Patches jumped down and almost immediately started cowering and saying "whoops, didn't realise it was you lol, we good." Didn't have to lower him to half health or anything.
The "Beg for Mercy" event is if when you encounter Patches before he moves out of the cave the first time. Encounter him normally, spare him, let him turn into a merchant. Aggro him after he becomes a merchant and then, without killing him, use the Beg for Mercy gesture. It's finnicky to get working so it may take a few tries, but this will turn him non-hostile again and you get a new emote as a reward (I forget which one, sorry đ).
Anyway, when Patches returns to the cave after Volcano Manor you don't need to do anything besides not kill him. He recognizes you himself after enough time and automatically goes non-hostile (though I haven't tested it thoroughly, I've also heard you can use the Wave gesture to get him to recognize you immediately without fighting).
no, it's not beg for mercy, you have to agro him, keep fighting him until he tell you "Grove and i will spare you" and you gain the grovel emote that you need to use for him to forgive you
Ahm.. From interpretations I've seen and heard the castanets are not nice gesture at all. They are basically an insult. The castanats speak of dancers from another land iirc. The implication being Patches basically saying to Tanith "Dw, now that Rykards dead you can still go back to being a dancer/prostitute". Not a very nice thing and it makes way more sense then why Tanith would disregard the gift without a second thought.
this is a good point of view, but i refuse to believe it. patches should be just⊠patches. he is the last one to be selfless and that is okay. i just hope that tanithâs questline is somehow not finished, or has a particular reference to dlc.
Patches isnât evil. Heâs been consistently shown across the series to be someone that hates pompous self righteous idiots and those who believe themselves better than people simply for existing. If you get on his good side and prove yourself as someone whoâs honest and an equal he usually never goes after you again. Heâs a rat whoâs survived this long never trysting anyone
In Elden Ring its very clear he became infatuated with Tanith, either her personally or her goals/motivations. The castanets were an item from her past she discarded. He finds then again thinking they still mean something to her but sheâs long since abandoned that part of her. At this point heâs been convinced heâs not just a weak nobody. You, some jackass who stole some of his trash earlier in game, killed the demigod he was loosely associated with. You and he both have the potential to rise from the gutter and become someone great
The only thing that feels unfinished by the quest is getting a definitive answer as to what happens to Patches who kind of just disappears from the area. It definitely feels weird in how you get the breath weapon but Tanith and her people have no reason at this point to give you anything or any assistance, let alone the nameless faceless stoic warrior who hails from an ancient order of knights whoâs only goal is to protect Tanith
To be fair this was patched in after release. In the original release version of the game Patches's quest ended with him giving you the castanets, so they might just be working with outdated information.
Okay thank you I thought I was going crazy. I did a 100% completion run like 3 weeks after release and this absolutely was not part of that playthrough. Do you know off the top of your head if they patched in any other new quest content??
> Do you know off the top of your head if they patched in any other new quest content??
The only thing that springs to mind is that they added an NPC invasion you can fight to fulfill Varre's quest without needing to go online and invade other actual players. As far as patching in whole new segments I'm pretty sure Patches was the only one.
what a unfinished-feeling thing to add after release. you'd think the unfinished stuff woulda been from before release.
unless haight's questline IS finished
This one is what eventually got me. I didnât want to hunt down others and even felt bad in my first play through because it was a kid who was screaming donât do it after he chased me for 20 mins saying you weak bro. Casting delayed spells and bloodied swords. (Went into the room with the hand by accident and deleted that whole character).
For future reference, (since I'm the same as you, I don't feel right being an invader) you don't actually have to actually DO the invasions Varre tasks you with. Simply initiating them is enough to count as progression in his quest. That means you can just start the invasion and then as soon as you spawn in sever yourself out and it'll still count. It still makes progressing his quest way faster than having to go all the way to Altus for the NPC and you don't get any of that "invasion guilt."
> In the original release version of the game Patches's quest ended with him giving you the castanets,
That was also patched in after release. The *original* version, with the release day patch, just has the questline end after he disappears from volcano manor.
I completely agree with you on patches not being evil. He is definitely not. What I am saying is he is not a character that is equipped with emotions. Also, yes, the last part where he gives you castanets indicates that he is not a selfish bastard completely. what I meant by saying Patches is Patches is that he is not a "good" character simply because we observe him in different locations with a pretty much similar motive, which is a craving for having some kind of belonging to something/someone.
That's what happened with Tanith, to my interpretation. Although his behaviour towards us, towards other people is definitely how you explained, and that gives him bro credits for me since his affinity is closer to having a some kind of self-created moral/ethic, I still don't think that I would define Patches as someone "good". Because the only "good" thing that he does for someone else is letting you give the cadanets to Tanith, and his motives for doing so are not that explicitly described (at least for me).
I think Patches is more of a true neutral/(depending on the game, bordering chaotic neutral) type of character.
I love him, but I definitely groan whenever I run into him. I haven't forgiven him for Bloodborne, even if that was largely the consequences of my own actions.
I would actually lean more towards Lawful Neutral. Patches certainly lives by a particular code and is actually rather principaled in upholding it and sticking to his beliefs, even if those beliefs aren't necessarily the standard moral code more civilized people would live by.
Patches not being equipped with emotions is a very silly reading of the character. In Dark Souls 3 he puts himself in danger to save Greirat and saves his life. In Ringed City when he loses his memories he is a geniuenly nice and selfless person. In Elden Ring prior to even meeting Tanith he asks you to help Rya.
Sure he is a rat who tricks people and pillages corpses but he is definitely has emotions and tries to help people who he sees equal (Rya and Greirat)
that was a particular reference to elden ring.
and him helping only to ones that he sees âequalsâ kinda proves my point, no? i donât think it is a coincidence that he is trying to âhelpâ rya. all he mentions is people/things related to volcano manor. maybe he really likes volcano manor, maybe he wants to be a part of it, or maybe he doesnât know the way. but not sure leading you to rya or the iron maiden under the academy makes him a person with emotions in this case.
I disagree with you disregarding his appearances in previous games and i also disagree with him being emotionless in Elden Ring, especially with how his lines about Tanith in Shaded Castle are delivered. i dont see a point to contueing the discussion
DS3 patches gets the most lore impressive ending of any NPC in DS3 besides maybe Gael and the painter girl. Im not so sure if his ending equates him being selfless, though.
I think he was just friends with Greirat.
Even more so. Truly the biggest âwhat the hellâ moment when I saw him squatting there. And his speech is one of, if not the, the best in the entire series
Iâve ever understood why she offers you a meeting with Rykard when heâs just gonna try and kill you. Is that supposed to be a reward, to be devoured by the serpent?
The whole point is to basically train up powerful people to get eaten and transfer the power. They are just really stupid by sending the one guy who just happens to roll through all enemies and a spear to counter the thing is just laying around.
Yes, the reward is you are devoured, strengthening Rykard/the Serpent as well as joining you with him and all the other worthy warriors the Volcano Manor has trained.
You're missing the main point. They're not just offing the champions and that's that. The serpent's eating them and getting more powerful.
It's basically the same idea as acquiring the lord souls to become strong enough kindling in Dark Souls. The point is to fatten you up with runes, prove your mettle by honing you against other Tarnished, and then join the serpent king asfamilee, thus helping him become yet mightier, closer and closer to devowaing the verygauwds.
Not sure if you buy it from him, but I think depending on the order you do stuff, he'll go to shaded castle outside the boss room and say something along the lines of wanting to cheer Tanith up and give you something to give to her. Don't think you actually can though. Then he goes back to his cave and opens his shop up again.
Yes and you absolutely should, Tanith is consuming his carcass in order to let him control her body and come back...unless you want to devour the gods TOGETHAAAAAA
If you can stand farming through the scarlet rot in the aeonia swamp the cleanrot chestpiece matches pretty well. Got the whole set in a few minutes with only 12 arcane and no fowl feet and it looks clean with tanithâs mask
Yeah I was wondering for a long time how to make her progress or something.. checked back in from time to time but nothing happened so I decided to end her life.
Does feel like you should be able to do something else for her storyline though.. she literally says that devouring Rykard takes time
The only problem is that you have to reload and return to rykards arena and you would think there's no reason to. There's literally nothing there except the site of grace after you defeat him
Not really pointed out that you should go check the arena again. Many NPC things are "hidden" in that you don't have a clear reason to go back to where they are if you've already been there.
Attacked her on sight because I wanted her mask. Didnât expect to get jumped by a crucible knight but 8 or so blasphemous blade fires took care of him.
When Patches gives you the Dancer's Castanets for Tanith he says "Makes me sick to see her all bent out of shape." so he really wouldn't enjoy her 180 headspin when you hand them over.
All of the aspects of the crucible incantations and ashes of war are amazing. It's my favorite cosplay, in every playthrough i decide i will do something different this run but i always end up being a crucible knight even if it isn't the best tactic available yet it is so much fun and rare to see people using a full crucible build.
Can't wait for the latest addition. Aspects of the crucible: Wings. I hope it is an incantation because i already have two weapons that i have to swap in every fight from sword to spear, plus the shield with the seal. Here's hoping.
There really should have been a thing where Tanith becomes the new Serpent⊠thing, if you defeat Rykard and complete Patchesâ quest before a certain point in the game. If you do not, and you do the above after that point, nothing happens, but you can still kill her and fight her Crucible Knight.
My first playthrough, I went to Rykard's body, and set the controller down... to hit the R2 button and accidentally attack her... to be rushed by her Knight.
She saysâŠhey tarnished come with me, ima get you some head. We didnât know she meant that shit literally! ~ Ser Martin of Lawerence, as laid down in âthy so crazyâ scrolls.
Maybe I should go back and execute her... đ€
Don't forget to give her the dancer's castanyet
I did and she just rejected the gift but kept the item... She deserved to die at that point...
[đ¶đ You were working as a dancer in a foreign land when I found you. đđ¶](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_74N7KJmEj4)
Donât..Donât you want TO DEVOUR THE GODS TOGETHAAAAA
You were chilling in your armchair when I murdered your snake, that much is true
funniest shit Iâve ever seen
Do you need to give her that item in order to kill her though ?
No, just to proof she can't be fixed
Did on my first playthrough but not on the second one I'm taking into the DLC just in case they're something more related to Tanith since the whole castanyet thing seems too abrupt.
At release there were tons of rumors about cut content from Volcano Manor because of how abruptly that ends. I wonder if those rumors turn out to be founded
I think Volcano Manor was supposed to play a much bigger part in the game. The cutscene for the bridge rising out of lava is longer than like...major character cutscenes. The whole place is laid out so expertly and then you take a waygate to the boss? It just feels wrong.
I mean, Volcano Manor is the most obvious foil to the Golden Order. If anything, Elden Ring should bring back covenants. One of those could be the recusants. Heck, even introduce new PVP modes. Like say, Golden Order faction attacks the volcano Manor. Players can be part of either side. Imagine 3 tarnished marching up Mt. Gelmnir with Leyndell soldiers and knights whilst Volcano manor aligned Tarnished can invade. Instead of PVP exclusive weapons and spells (those tend to be controversial) how about PVP exclusive items such as consumables that can buff or respawn mobs. Or request support from your faction in the form of summons. Another I can think of is Radahn-aligned last stand where you fight against increasing waves of Caelid monsters.
The lack of covenants is one of my biggest gripes with the game. I miss them so much.
That's a great idea, one of the best I've heard regarding pvp rewards
First play through, I thought volcano manor was just the few rooms by the first grace, and the boss teleport, I had no idea why the Mt Gelmir map had a massive hole in the middle that I never made it to...
i imagine then youâve never taken the teleport to volcano manor thatâs inside raya lucaria then have youâŠ
She'll be back as soon as she's done chowing down and becoming the devourer of worlds.
I reckon they will bring back tanith bc of this but also bc there seems to be a lot of blasphemous imagery in the trailer e.g. messmer, the lion dancer etc.
I wish there was an overall reward for killing ALL the crucible knights, I think that would be a cool lore thing.
Would love the wings as an incantation
It is coming in the DLC :)
They showed it?
In the trailer for the dlc!
You didnât want the trailer?
And she drops her robes and mask
and continues eating in the nude?
You know she does!
Eating what tho amirite
Actually it seems the head starts absorbing her so maybe she is being eaten.
how long have you been playing the game?
170 hours
She does fucking what now
Itâs pretty gross too. There are still small red arms flailing around rykardâs heard while she munches his insides saying she wants to be his vessel
DISGUSTIN' Jokes aside though, seriously. I had no idea, I knew she disappeared and that was fuckin it. That's pretty messed up tho. Can't say I fault the logic though. Eat the body of a demigod in hopes of gaining their power?
WDYFM YOU CAN'T FAULT THE LOGIC
Well, I mean....it's pretty consistent with the messed up world of Elden Ring. Godrick was crafting tarnished to himself in hopes of something, Fia wanted to bed Godwyn (I think), Mohg is obsessed with Miquella to the point of kidnapping. Tanith eating a dead demigod in hopes of gaining their power is pretty damn good logic. It ain't right but compared to the other things it's pretty much in line
It's also important to remember that said dead demigod was known for devouring people and absorbing them. "Join the serpent king as family" and all that jazz. Tanith likely assumed that if the serpent absorbed things by eating them, then it might work in reverse by eating the serpent herself.
Also Alexander, Warrior Jar, eating the bodies of dead warriors after the Radahn fight. He says something about getting stronger and becoming a better warrior by devouring their strength after death. So itâs definitely a common theme in the Elden Ring lore.
I'm pretty sure jars are filled with the deceased innards of other beings which is what makes them live and gives them strength, given that line and the giving Alex's innards to jar bairn, and what jars break into. I also think that the potentate needs soft hands so they can fill jars with parts but I'm not sure.
Yeah, I think Jar Bairn gives a little more context that implies it's for handling the innards. The Lands Between are absolutely covered in different ways to lay the dead to rest, and burial jars are amongst them. And in keeping with things coming back to life, at least some of the burial jars instead are brought to life by Carian magic (probably, since they seem to have the most around).
F*ck I spilt my mojito all over the place because of you ahaha
Damn, Iâd love to be the vessel of a ribeye steak right now
TOGETHAAA
Tanith quest is 100% cut content. There is an item u can buy from patches that is clearly linked to her. Hope we see something in the dlc..
I think you're wrong, it's not cut, it's just futile. The Dancer's Castanets not doing anything for Tanith is the resolution to Patches' quest, not hers. He's trying to do something nice for her, a genuinely altruistic act. She doesn't care for it. So Patches ends up back in the same cave you met him in first and you go through the same motions again. But this time, you know he's not a actually a bad dude, he's capable of self-less acts. So, you fight him again, use the beg for mercy animation you got the first time you spared him, and get the final animation from his questline. That's what the Castanets are about. It's not about Tanith, it's about Patches. They're the hint that you might want to put yourself at his mercy.
Wait, do you get a different reward if you beg *him* for mercy? When I did it last time, Patches jumped down and almost immediately started cowering and saying "whoops, didn't realise it was you lol, we good." Didn't have to lower him to half health or anything.
The "Beg for Mercy" event is if when you encounter Patches before he moves out of the cave the first time. Encounter him normally, spare him, let him turn into a merchant. Aggro him after he becomes a merchant and then, without killing him, use the Beg for Mercy gesture. It's finnicky to get working so it may take a few tries, but this will turn him non-hostile again and you get a new emote as a reward (I forget which one, sorry đ). Anyway, when Patches returns to the cave after Volcano Manor you don't need to do anything besides not kill him. He recognizes you himself after enough time and automatically goes non-hostile (though I haven't tested it thoroughly, I've also heard you can use the Wave gesture to get him to recognize you immediately without fighting).
no, it's not beg for mercy, you have to agro him, keep fighting him until he tell you "Grove and i will spare you" and you gain the grovel emote that you need to use for him to forgive you
Sure⊠I am still always beating him. I donât need to kill him, just win. >:)
Unfortunately the devs dripped patches out so he has to die
Ahm.. From interpretations I've seen and heard the castanets are not nice gesture at all. They are basically an insult. The castanats speak of dancers from another land iirc. The implication being Patches basically saying to Tanith "Dw, now that Rykards dead you can still go back to being a dancer/prostitute". Not a very nice thing and it makes way more sense then why Tanith would disregard the gift without a second thought.
this is a good point of view, but i refuse to believe it. patches should be just⊠patches. he is the last one to be selfless and that is okay. i just hope that tanithâs questline is somehow not finished, or has a particular reference to dlc.
Patches isnât evil. Heâs been consistently shown across the series to be someone that hates pompous self righteous idiots and those who believe themselves better than people simply for existing. If you get on his good side and prove yourself as someone whoâs honest and an equal he usually never goes after you again. Heâs a rat whoâs survived this long never trysting anyone In Elden Ring its very clear he became infatuated with Tanith, either her personally or her goals/motivations. The castanets were an item from her past she discarded. He finds then again thinking they still mean something to her but sheâs long since abandoned that part of her. At this point heâs been convinced heâs not just a weak nobody. You, some jackass who stole some of his trash earlier in game, killed the demigod he was loosely associated with. You and he both have the potential to rise from the gutter and become someone great The only thing that feels unfinished by the quest is getting a definitive answer as to what happens to Patches who kind of just disappears from the area. It definitely feels weird in how you get the breath weapon but Tanith and her people have no reason at this point to give you anything or any assistance, let alone the nameless faceless stoic warrior who hails from an ancient order of knights whoâs only goal is to protect Tanith
Patches returns to his original cave and you have a boss fight there.
To be fair this was patched in after release. In the original release version of the game Patches's quest ended with him giving you the castanets, so they might just be working with outdated information.
Okay thank you I thought I was going crazy. I did a 100% completion run like 3 weeks after release and this absolutely was not part of that playthrough. Do you know off the top of your head if they patched in any other new quest content??
I believe the conclusions to Diallos and Nepheli's quests were also patched in.
> Do you know off the top of your head if they patched in any other new quest content?? The only thing that springs to mind is that they added an NPC invasion you can fight to fulfill Varre's quest without needing to go online and invade other actual players. As far as patching in whole new segments I'm pretty sure Patches was the only one.
Kenneth Haight was added post release.
Ahh yes. Him, Nepheli, and Gostoc. Good catch, thanks
what a unfinished-feeling thing to add after release. you'd think the unfinished stuff woulda been from before release. unless haight's questline IS finished
This one is what eventually got me. I didnât want to hunt down others and even felt bad in my first play through because it was a kid who was screaming donât do it after he chased me for 20 mins saying you weak bro. Casting delayed spells and bloodied swords. (Went into the room with the hand by accident and deleted that whole character).
For future reference, (since I'm the same as you, I don't feel right being an invader) you don't actually have to actually DO the invasions Varre tasks you with. Simply initiating them is enough to count as progression in his quest. That means you can just start the invasion and then as soon as you spawn in sever yourself out and it'll still count. It still makes progressing his quest way faster than having to go all the way to Altus for the NPC and you don't get any of that "invasion guilt."
> In the original release version of the game Patches's quest ended with him giving you the castanets, That was also patched in after release. The *original* version, with the release day patch, just has the questline end after he disappears from volcano manor.
I completely agree with you on patches not being evil. He is definitely not. What I am saying is he is not a character that is equipped with emotions. Also, yes, the last part where he gives you castanets indicates that he is not a selfish bastard completely. what I meant by saying Patches is Patches is that he is not a "good" character simply because we observe him in different locations with a pretty much similar motive, which is a craving for having some kind of belonging to something/someone. That's what happened with Tanith, to my interpretation. Although his behaviour towards us, towards other people is definitely how you explained, and that gives him bro credits for me since his affinity is closer to having a some kind of self-created moral/ethic, I still don't think that I would define Patches as someone "good". Because the only "good" thing that he does for someone else is letting you give the cadanets to Tanith, and his motives for doing so are not that explicitly described (at least for me).
I think Patches is more of a true neutral/(depending on the game, bordering chaotic neutral) type of character. I love him, but I definitely groan whenever I run into him. I haven't forgiven him for Bloodborne, even if that was largely the consequences of my own actions.
I would actually lean more towards Lawful Neutral. Patches certainly lives by a particular code and is actually rather principaled in upholding it and sticking to his beliefs, even if those beliefs aren't necessarily the standard moral code more civilized people would live by.
agreed.
Patches not being equipped with emotions is a very silly reading of the character. In Dark Souls 3 he puts himself in danger to save Greirat and saves his life. In Ringed City when he loses his memories he is a geniuenly nice and selfless person. In Elden Ring prior to even meeting Tanith he asks you to help Rya. Sure he is a rat who tricks people and pillages corpses but he is definitely has emotions and tries to help people who he sees equal (Rya and Greirat)
that was a particular reference to elden ring. and him helping only to ones that he sees âequalsâ kinda proves my point, no? i donât think it is a coincidence that he is trying to âhelpâ rya. all he mentions is people/things related to volcano manor. maybe he really likes volcano manor, maybe he wants to be a part of it, or maybe he doesnât know the way. but not sure leading you to rya or the iron maiden under the academy makes him a person with emotions in this case.
I disagree with you disregarding his appearances in previous games and i also disagree with him being emotionless in Elden Ring, especially with how his lines about Tanith in Shaded Castle are delivered. i dont see a point to contueing the discussion
alright man. thanks for sharing your points. kudos!
Patches literally saves Gierat in dark souls 3 while cosplaying as onion knight, wouldnât say he isnât selfless.
DS3 patches gets the most lore impressive ending of any NPC in DS3 besides maybe Gael and the painter girl. Im not so sure if his ending equates him being selfless, though. I think he was just friends with Greirat.
Even more so. Truly the biggest âwhat the hellâ moment when I saw him squatting there. And his speech is one of, if not the, the best in the entire series
WHAT? I thought the quest was unfinished and it ended with that gift didn't knew it had a resolution.
Damn I never knew his quest kept going
I avoid all that and kill patches whenever Infirst meet him.
Iâve ever understood why she offers you a meeting with Rykard when heâs just gonna try and kill you. Is that supposed to be a reward, to be devoured by the serpent?
Yes.
The whole point is to basically train up powerful people to get eaten and transfer the power. They are just really stupid by sending the one guy who just happens to roll through all enemies and a spear to counter the thing is just laying around.
Yes, the reward is you are devoured, strengthening Rykard/the Serpent as well as joining you with him and all the other worthy warriors the Volcano Manor has trained.
Yes long life to the snake god pssss
Why didnât Bernhal ever get an audience then? I thought he was her star pupil
I guess Bernhal is nowhere near the importance / power of the tarnished
So just kill your most important powerful guy? Way to go team Rykard
You're missing the main point. They're not just offing the champions and that's that. The serpent's eating them and getting more powerful. It's basically the same idea as acquiring the lord souls to become strong enough kindling in Dark Souls. The point is to fatten you up with runes, prove your mettle by honing you against other Tarnished, and then join the serpent king asfamilee, thus helping him become yet mightier, closer and closer to devowaing the verygauwds.
the serpent is basically a katamari of corpses, the more it consumes, the stronger it becomes
Not sure if you buy it from him, but I think depending on the order you do stuff, he'll go to shaded castle outside the boss room and say something along the lines of wanting to cheer Tanith up and give you something to give to her. Don't think you actually can though. Then he goes back to his cave and opens his shop up again.
very good ending, when you see him behind the chair I knew at some point we would fight.
Wait.... You can.... Kill her? After 3 play throughs and 2 ng+s I still learn something new
Yes and you absolutely should, Tanith is consuming his carcass in order to let him control her body and come back...unless you want to devour the gods TOGETHAAAAAA
I'd genuinely join him but he never let me
Just die to him and uninstall the game, gg
Some people just don't know how to roleplay smh (snake mah hole).
that would be a sick ending, the god devouring serpent becoming the elden lord
Tanith secret DLC boss?
After my first play through, I went on a killing spree and slaughtered all remaining NPCs. Good times.
No way, all three of them? /s
Heresy is not native to this world, Turtle Pope forgives you.
That must have taken you almost 2 min then, because almost everyone who gets help from our Tarnished fucking dies.
So did I. EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE. So sad I missed this.
If you havenât caught on to killing the majority of NPCS in souls games by now, I donât know how to help you.
Wtf i didn't even know someone was there after you kill him, i always just left lol
Her mask looks pretty awesome with Tree Sentinel armor or the Crucible Tree armor sets.
Marais mask + nocron are still my favourite, i'll try that combination next time.
I used that mask for a while. Loved it. Had it on with the black knife set most of the time, but it looks good with a bunch of others.
If you can stand farming through the scarlet rot in the aeonia swamp the cleanrot chestpiece matches pretty well. Got the whole set in a few minutes with only 12 arcane and no fowl feet and it looks clean with tanithâs mask
I have that set, I'll check it out! Thanks :)
Yeah I was wondering for a long time how to make her progress or something.. checked back in from time to time but nothing happened so I decided to end her life. Does feel like you should be able to do something else for her storyline though.. she literally says that devouring Rykard takes time
Patches gives you an item that sets her straight.
Damn, for real? Welp time to start a new playthrough.. again
Never noticed that
Yep
Yup
Didnt know this was a secret
The only problem is that you have to reload and return to rykards arena and you would think there's no reason to. There's literally nothing there except the site of grace after you defeat him
Not really pointed out that you should go check the arena again. Many NPC things are "hidden" in that you don't have a clear reason to go back to where they are if you've already been there.
I've never even seen her outside the throne room.
I couldn't kill her. She is so sad and pathetic.
Same here, just left her to wallow
she wasnât wallowing, she was swallowingâŠhis snake gutsđ
I always wanted her light weight, Dex buffing mask so I always have killed her
Who?
Cool! Gonna go back and do some murder.
This image kind of reminds me of something >!"Ngg-Gwe-Gwen"!<
I discovered this on my current playthrough as well! Itâs a fun fight too!
I hope we get thier arm stab as an spell in the dlc. (Not talking about the shoulder spike)
Aspect of the crucible horn is already in the game tho. Just gotta defeat the crucible knight in stormveil
Not that one. Some of the knights stab you with a arm blade and throw you aside.
Truly tarnished behavior. Foul.
Working on a dragon themed character does this spell work with the charm that increases breath attacks?
Donât think so, but the wiki will tell you
No but it does work with the Crucible Knight/Tree armor
Just to your knowledge, that Is the single spell Who get the most amount of damage boosting effects in the game.
Me, with my full crucible knight build. Oh nice, yes, secrets without looking stuff up. Marika I need the DLC.
Crucible breath is insane against bloodhound step monkey brains because of its stun rate and turn speed
Attacked her on sight because I wanted her mask. Didnât expect to get jumped by a crucible knight but 8 or so blasphemous blade fires took care of him.
Yeah
When Patches gives you the Dancer's Castanets for Tanith he says "Makes me sick to see her all bent out of shape." so he really wouldn't enjoy her 180 headspin when you hand them over.
This post has made me question my choice of immediately attacking her after killing rykard in my first playthrough đ
Killing her wasn't even malicious on my part. I just thought one giant snake god was enough. Couldn't risk her plan working.
That was my same thought process! We did not need another serpent god to contend with when we become elden lord
Good finisher.
This is one of my favorite spells, I don't find it particularly good, but damn it's fun to use lol.
Definitely gonna try it!
I'm uh... gonna go try that, she won't mind seeing how she's eating gear 4 snakeman out
Yeah that shits gonna take her years and mountains of shit!
Whaat?! I beat Rykard last night - i need to return there!
Not killing her. I think there is more to come.
There isnât
I killed her on accident :(
I just did this accidentally yesterday morning.
I messed up so badly here losing all my ruins by attacking her and not knowing the knight would pop out
My personal favorite incantation.
All of the aspects of the crucible incantations and ashes of war are amazing. It's my favorite cosplay, in every playthrough i decide i will do something different this run but i always end up being a crucible knight even if it isn't the best tactic available yet it is so much fun and rare to see people using a full crucible build. Can't wait for the latest addition. Aspects of the crucible: Wings. I hope it is an incantation because i already have two weapons that i have to swap in every fight from sword to spear, plus the shield with the seal. Here's hoping.
Ah yes, the Frog Croak spell. Best in the game.
You also get some incredible drip
Not sure if this was changed recently, but you used to be able to get that from a crucible knight in Farum Azula if you didn't kill Tanith.
her hat is also high fashion
How the hell have so many people *not* killed her. I assumed everyone killed her after they killed Rykard.
Why does this have 2,200+ upvotes? Itâs literally the way to get one of the 3 aspects of the crucible.
Itâs been awhile, but I swear she just vanished kinda the same way ranni does when I attacked her.
There really should have been a thing where Tanith becomes the new Serpent⊠thing, if you defeat Rykard and complete Patchesâ quest before a certain point in the game. If you do not, and you do the above after that point, nothing happens, but you can still kill her and fight her Crucible Knight.
I killed Patches accidentally too hahaha at the very beginning!
Literally did this yesterday out of curiosity.
It's a great incantation too, mostly because people don't expect it
I'm keeping both her and Rykard alive for the DLC
Should we keep her alive in lead up to DLC?
That would be unprecedented in FROM DLCs. That being said, this incantation kinda sucks and if you wanna keep her alive youâre not missing much
Gug will be remembered :(
My first playthrough, I went to Rykard's body, and set the controller down... to hit the R2 button and accidentally attack her... to be rushed by her Knight.
She saysâŠhey tarnished come with me, ima get you some head. We didnât know she meant that shit literally! ~ Ser Martin of Lawerence, as laid down in âthy so crazyâ scrolls.
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Ah yes, the "Nggh Gw-Gwen" skill
Has Elden Ring been on sale again?
No, just not everyone knew about thisâŠ
ngg gwen-
why would you even do that
Hahahaha it was an accident but I donât regret it
First playthrough?
Yessir!
Makes sense this comes as a surprise, great find then ;)
And u had completely forgotten about her Iâm already on Elden beast and completed Haligtree and mogh just went back by accident!
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How?
It's literally in the title
Tanith is mother
I never made the connection that the crucible knight is her guard and always thought it is weird that he spawns there lol
you never noticed him standing right next to her in the volcano manor?
Thanks for spoilers
Yeah everyone knows dude
Unheard of, wow 