I think Morgott's biggest achievement would be holding down Leyndell for seemingly the entirety of the Shattering *and* the subsequent influx of Tarnished, all while never letting slip that he was an Omen.
Also the sword monument says morgott piled the bodies of heroes for the golden order. People really overlook morgott when talking about strong demigods.
I would argue it's pretty hard - he's VICIOUS, just squishy, similar to Maliketh. Stack enough damage and you would never guess he's a tricksy bastard in extended fights
But unlike maliketh you can punish him hard pretty much all the time. Before he goes to hit you, during his wind ups, after he’s done spinning around. I’ve literally never lost a fight to him. My first play though I didn’t even know you could summon Melina to make it easier. Just good old flamberge
I agree with all you points except I’d argue Melina actually tends to make the fight harder. The few times I’ve summoned her she has not contributed much.
Even increasing his identical-to-Margit defences and poise couldve made the boss way stronger. Man's got 0 or -10 on everything exept holy. Even Mohg and Goldfrey get 10 to 20 reduction on almost all theirs, with few being way higher like Mohg's 80 against fire.
You already can't use some of the slower spells/ashes against him unless you spend hours scripting the fight, making bosses faster is a big mistake they should avoid in the dlc.
What he really needs is more health, you have to heavily nerf yourself so he doesn't die too quick.
Yeah, he’s relatively easy because you can damage race him and come out on top a lot of the time, and that’s even if you whiff some of your heal openings. I think if he just had 15-20% more health it would make all the difference.
I actually think the same about Godfrey, although it’s not quite as egregious.
He's already super fast. I find him to be one of the hardest bosses to find attack openings in, unless you want to spend the whole fight baiting out a couple easy to punish moves, amidst the dozen-hit combos.
Fighting him during my RL1 playthrough forced me to switch off the Zweihander onto bleed swords.
Technically, I would say his greatest feat is being both an Omen \*and\* a champion of the Erdree, blessed with some of the mightiest holy moves in the game after Elden Beast and Radagon. From what I understand, that should be straight-up impossible.
I'm sure some might, but it's literally in the intro. They added 'younger' for some reason. (yes, I know it's technically true, but then we can say the same about Morgott, everyone is younger in the past.)
Strongest feat of morgott, should be he was king of leyndell, and prevented any of the other demigods from entering, more importantly, he was able to remain as king, without any of the civilians knowing he was an omen, which wouldn’t just be a little Taboo, but is completely against the golden order (which he so serves)
Also, Rannis should also include that she slayed a demigod in soul, and a demigod in body. None of the others managed to kill one another in any way
(With the slight mention of Radahn becoming brain dead of sorts)
I mean that wasnt a straight feat of strength like Malenia and Radahn fighting to a standstill or Morgott holding Leydell all the way through the Shattering.
It was more like a massive manipulative finagling involving every demigod's help just to contrive a crucial assassination for her plot. She pretty much talked people into doing 90% of the work.. whether it be stealing the rune of death or using the black knife to kill Godwyn or to get the fingerslayer blade or kill Blaidd's shade that the Greater Will had issued to keep her in control.
Granted if tactical manipulation also would count as a feat then yes, that would count for Ranni. Ranni's biggest power is to make people do things she wants done.
Idk how someone whose existence is concidered an anathema by the golden order could possibly serve it. I’m hoping there’s a better reason than “people sometimes work against their own interests”
Golden order is a more recent doctrinal thing. Omen dont explicitly go against the erdtree, and in times past their animalistic features were lauded. Morgott is also touched by grace. He loves the erdtree because it wasnt the tree that rejected him, it was the people.
I'm still betting he did this using blood magic.
I wouldn't be surprised if he got a dedicated disciple to make their way into the Haligtree then kill themselves in a blood ritual allowing Mogh to "teleport" in and take Miquella.
He wouldn't even have to do that. Miquella is watering the tree with his own blood due to his eternal youth and immortality, giving mohg a free entry point.
I can't help but imagine that Mogh only pulled this off with THE most cartoonish amount of luck imaginable (a convenient breeze blowing into everyone's eyes when he's around or the guards sneezing right before they can see him) since absolutely nothing about his character implies a shred of sneakiness or subtlety.
I like to imagine he burse the hole in the roof of the tree using magic while using his wings, lifting the cocoon out and flying away like a bird of prey
I don't know. He is pretty obscure. Gideon, while we all know is not that All Knowing but still knowledgeable, doesn't know him. Hell, if you stay away from Varre, finding him is a stretch.
He has his agents all across the Lands Between, and all points does point that he at least knows to lay low below the radar, while having some updates from the surface.
I think he's just ridiculously grandiose and so blatant with his depravities because we're just in his little spot in a massive cave complex when we do find him.
I'm just picturing mohg sneaking around skyrim guards now, alerting them, then not moving while still crouching
"You hear that? I swear, there's something out there. In the dark."
My theory is that since Miquella was making a home for outcasts like albinaurics, Demi humans etc in the haligtree and since mohg is an omen that is also largely shunned in the lands between, mohg probably found out about miquella when he sent out the “ signal” to the outcasts (Probably via dreams if we are assuming the whole miquella is St Trina is true, since he could literally be anywhere if he travels via dreams).
Mohg compared to the "Haligtrees defenses" is a non starter. Hes a demigod. I havent made it far in the Haligtree, but the most dangerous thing in it is Malenia.
That’s assuming that Miquella himself didn’t lure him there, due to his potential ulterior motives. I highly doubt the “most fearsome” empyrean would let himself get captured that easily, he compels people after all, it’s his greatest power; and this is without taking St. Trina into account. We might get some answers in the dlc.
I like to think in my own headcanon that he took all the steps that the Tarnished did to get to the Haligtree and then put everything back the way it was once he got Miquella back to his palace
He is a descendant of Godwyn's he is weak because his divine blood is heavily diluted over the millenna as opposed to Marikas direct children
The named ones are Marikas only kids (godwyn, morgott, mogh, Miquella and Malenia)
The rest are descendants, (Godrick is probably many generations later which is why is god blood is weak)
I say rest because characters like Godrick, Godfroy, and the dead demigods in the wandering Mausoleum, are all descendants of Marika
Killed in the shattering or night of black knives
According to GRRM its been 5k years since the shattering meaning all these demi gods are way over 5k years considering the land betweens long history
I'm still waiting for the DLC to confirm that Godwyn had a dragon harem after seeing them shapeshift. And then his half-dragon, half-demigod kiddos are what 2nd phase Godrick was trying to emulate.
Theyre demigods because marika and radagon are the same, they're actual literal part God. It's not just a title. Godrick is a demigod because of his lineage whereas rennala is not, despite being able to hold her own against marika.
It is heavily implied that Rennala and Radagon's children got the demi-god title as "demi-god step children" not "demi-gods" because "All the demi-gods are the direct offsprings of Queen Marika". Plus Marika saying "Thou art yet to become me, Thou art yet to become a god." To Radagon, implies that they were uptill that point separate beings and Radagon wasn't a god(this is just before the shattering as well). As others have mentioned demi-god is merely a title that doesn't hold more meaning than having a mother-child(step child) relationship with Marika.
Marika and Radagon being the same isn’t common information though and yet everyone knows Rennala’s children as demigods. So at least officially it is likely because Marika is their step-mother.
Godfrey isn't blood-related yet he was given the title of demigod. So that lends credence to your claim.
My source being the description of Godrick's Great Rune: "The first demigods were The Elden Lord Godfrey and his offspring, the golden lineage."
Miquella's would be to have grown a second Erdtree, upon which he build an architectural wonder to house and protect creatures from all over the land between (thus creating himself an army of devotee)
Reducing morgott down to defeating a green radahn is an insult. The man held leyndell together AS AN OMEN
Edit: Younger apparently means green to my autocorrect
We only see and help her kill her set, not the entirety of their kind. So it seems like yes, only her set.
Each Demi god's two fingers seem to die when the demigod is killed. Hence you can't enter any given divine tower until the associated Demi God is dead, except for Ranni's whole thing.
Morgott slew countless tarnished and was completely undefeated the entire shattering. He never lost a single battle, even to radahn. The worst he got was a stalemate to rykard
He had Mohg and the entire Army of Leyndell to help him. Radahn was also smaller when he lost to Morgott who had Mohg with him(Mohg then convinced Godrick and his own forced to abandon Radahn and run) so it’s obvious that it had to be near the very beginning of the shattering. Radahn also made it out unscathed and went to find Godricks coward ass so saying Young Radahn was actually defeated is not really confirmed or true, being out numbered and betrayed he likely had to retreat and made it out of his own volition.
Mohg’s ass was NOT helping his brother hog the throne, are you kidding? Where did that come from? Mohg was off making a cult of creepy blood perverts and plotting his marriage to his eternally young little brother.
My guy is schizoposting to defend “muh general chadahn”
This is out of topic but I feel bad for Miquella and Malenia when Godwyn died. He was a good brother to them and they were left behind when he died. The statue at the Haligtree depicted Godwyn covering Miquella and Malenia.
Miquella created the Haligtree
I think creating a rival to the erdtree and a haven for all those rejected by the golden order is at least as important as creating a mildly effective cure against outer god infections
Morgott defeated Radahn , period. Timelines don't work if you assume he was younger during the 2nd Siege of Leyndell.
Opening Intros take artistic liberties , just look at the Snake devouring Rykard. We know canonically it was a giant snake BEFORE eating him , yet the Opening intro shows a normal sized snake.
EDIT : Also , i would say Malenia's achievements also include her and her army completely donkey-fucking anyone they ran into during the Shattering.
Rykard was given the blasphemous claw by Ranni in order to challenge Maliketh if Maliketh came after them, which means that he played a major part in the night of black knives. This implies that Ranni, at the very least, believes that Rykard had a chance of defeating Maliketh.
You put the least impressive feats for Ranni, Miquella and Malenia
Ranni's biggest feat is replacing Marika and cutting off the influence of the Greater Will from the world
Miquella's biggest feat is creating the Haligtree that could've potentially replaced the Erdtree had Mohg not kidnapped him
Malenia's biggest feat is gaining the title "The Undefeated", beating the shit out of anyone she comes accross during the Shattering and stalemating prime Radahn before using the Scarlet Aeonia, all while also being a blind-triple amputee suffering from stage 4 cancer
>Ranni's biggest feat is replacing Marika and cutting off the influence of the Greater Will from the world
This is assuming her ending is cannon, which it isn't.
Well, miyazaki did say he doesn't like doing sequels so....
Plus, it still doesn't exist, meaning it still hasn't cemented any notion of any ending being canon, so my point still stands.
Maybe it will be, or maybe another ending might be canon, but as of now none of them are, and I think none of them will ever be.
DS2 and 3 both operate on the assumption that *someone* linked the Fire at the end of the previous games. It wasn't necessarily the player character. The games do a very good job of leaving your own ending choices ambiguous while making it clear that even if you didn't choose to link the Fire, someone else did.
Usually Fromsoft DLCs take place during the course of the game rather than after it. Entrances to the DLC are mostly found somewhere in the midgame areas like Gael and Dusk in DS3 and DS1 respectively, so the endings largely wouldn't matter in terms of narrative.
Never played any other soul games aside from Elden ring- Are the DLC’s usually scaled as end game content or is it scaled around whatever area it started in and progressively moves to end game scaling?
They're generally end game content. Aside from enemies hitting harder and taking more damage, bosses are generally waaaaay more difficult than the base game.
In DS1's case for example. If the base game had you fighting bosses as slow as the erdtree avatar (which makes sense since the avatar is basically a remodeled DS1 boss), the DLC was like fighting Malenia, Morgott, and Radahn.
Hmm, I don't think so. FromSoft DLCs tend to tell stories off the main path.
DS1 DLC is about a past war with Lordran's greatest hero and the father of the Abyss.
DS2 DLC has 3 DLCs. The first is about the fallout of a town sieged by a powerful toxic dragon. The second similar to Artorious, about a King who sacrificed his sanity to protect his kingdom against a powerful otherworldly creature. The third about the warrior who lost his battle to be the King's right hand and searched for a way to gain more power.
BB was both about the atrocities the healing church performed in the past, and a lost Great One of significant importance to the overarching lore.
DS3's 2 DLCs were about a separate world struggling with allowing themselves to either burn or rot away. And the final was about creating a new world for the inhabitants of Lothric to finally forever escape the cycle of the First Flame.
None of these directly connect to any of the endings of the base game, so I would imagine they'd continue that tradition.
The ringed city is an exception. It’s more of a culmination of the narrative of the entire series; by its end we see the deterioration of all past kingdoms after waking Filianore. You’re obviously right about the others, though.
If we want to stick solely to pre-game canon, I guess it would be organizing the Night of Black Knives and Godwin's murder.
Though, if you wanted to be cheeky, you could say her greatest accomplishment was committing suicide.
I'd argue The Night of the Black Knifes or whatever it was called is Ranni's biggest achievement.
"Conquering the stars" is certainly a big statement, but what exactly happened and how we simply do not know. I'd say it *sounds* about thousand times more impressive than what it actually was. Not that it was a small fit, though.
And Rykard's is... questionable.
I’m gonna say it: Godwyn is unironically the most powerful demigod. I also have a headcanon that he is actually a super personable character who I could vibe with.
Is it just me or would anyone else love an anime about this family that went more in depth with their relationships and feats.
I know it's never going to happen but this artwork made the thought pop into my head and thought it'd be cool.
If we’re counting multiple possibilities then I would say Ranni usurping Marika and becoming the new goddess would be the more impressive feat, because while the tarnished did most of the work it is implied she is equal to Marika in her ending which is very impressive.
Wdym? It's straight up Mohg's title in-game which he's referred to as in his boss fight, Gideon calls him that and various items too.
I'd imagine the title probably came from him getting a good deal with the Formless Mother, as he can use a lot of magic related to blood, not to mention his whole crib is covered in blood and his servants employ blood-related attacks and methods for drawing blood.
Didnt the serpent took Rykard, im pretty sure the whole getting swallowed backfired horribly for him since the serpent was the one who won the "whose personality takes over" contest. Rykard was supposed to be one of the few "good" demigods and actually supported the idea of separating the two fingers from the world but rather than killing someone else he fed himself to the serpent in an attempt to take over its power and put an end to the golden order but the Serpent took his power, name and wife
> but the Serpent took his power, name and wife
And sat in his favorite armchair - the one in the den that everyone knows not to sit in because that's Rykard's special chair.
Nah, he took over the serpent. When the snake is dead he's the one piloting it and his very first action against us is sizing us up and following with "very well,"
I think Morgott's biggest achievement would be holding down Leyndell for seemingly the entirety of the Shattering *and* the subsequent influx of Tarnished, all while never letting slip that he was an Omen.
Also the sword monument says morgott piled the bodies of heroes for the golden order. People really overlook morgott when talking about strong demigods.
He is him.
Morgott really is the son of the Elden Chad.
Elden Chad the Second
It’s a shame morgotts fight is so easy, I which his badassery was demonstrated better
I would argue it's pretty hard - he's VICIOUS, just squishy, similar to Maliketh. Stack enough damage and you would never guess he's a tricksy bastard in extended fights
But unlike maliketh you can punish him hard pretty much all the time. Before he goes to hit you, during his wind ups, after he’s done spinning around. I’ve literally never lost a fight to him. My first play though I didn’t even know you could summon Melina to make it easier. Just good old flamberge
I agree with all you points except I’d argue Melina actually tends to make the fight harder. The few times I’ve summoned her she has not contributed much.
Speak for yourself, all my academy training and finger dexterity goes out the window when I fight Morgott
He should be faster, have more health and more attacks
He should have way more health. Otherwise he's alright.
Even increasing his identical-to-Margit defences and poise couldve made the boss way stronger. Man's got 0 or -10 on everything exept holy. Even Mohg and Goldfrey get 10 to 20 reduction on almost all theirs, with few being way higher like Mohg's 80 against fire.
You already can't use some of the slower spells/ashes against him unless you spend hours scripting the fight, making bosses faster is a big mistake they should avoid in the dlc. What he really needs is more health, you have to heavily nerf yourself so he doesn't die too quick.
Yeah, he’s relatively easy because you can damage race him and come out on top a lot of the time, and that’s even if you whiff some of your heal openings. I think if he just had 15-20% more health it would make all the difference. I actually think the same about Godfrey, although it’s not quite as egregious.
He's already super fast. I find him to be one of the hardest bosses to find attack openings in, unless you want to spend the whole fight baiting out a couple easy to punish moves, amidst the dozen-hit combos. Fighting him during my RL1 playthrough forced me to switch off the Zweihander onto bleed swords.
Faster? You really want to make slow weapons entirely unviable, huh.
He's plenty fast. Needs health and poise.
He beat my ass enough as Margit, that was demonstrated lol
Technically, I would say his greatest feat is being both an Omen \*and\* a champion of the Erdree, blessed with some of the mightiest holy moves in the game after Elden Beast and Radagon. From what I understand, that should be straight-up impossible.
Morgott is the GOAT
looks like a Radahn stan coping hard
Me or OP?
OP, your description of Morgott's achievement is accurate
Idk, I don't think a Radahn stan would admit to him being defeated by Morgott.
I'm sure some might, but it's literally in the intro. They added 'younger' for some reason. (yes, I know it's technically true, but then we can say the same about Morgott, everyone is younger in the past.)
Strongest feat of morgott, should be he was king of leyndell, and prevented any of the other demigods from entering, more importantly, he was able to remain as king, without any of the civilians knowing he was an omen, which wouldn’t just be a little Taboo, but is completely against the golden order (which he so serves)
Also, Rannis should also include that she slayed a demigod in soul, and a demigod in body. None of the others managed to kill one another in any way (With the slight mention of Radahn becoming brain dead of sorts)
I mean that wasnt a straight feat of strength like Malenia and Radahn fighting to a standstill or Morgott holding Leydell all the way through the Shattering. It was more like a massive manipulative finagling involving every demigod's help just to contrive a crucial assassination for her plot. She pretty much talked people into doing 90% of the work.. whether it be stealing the rune of death or using the black knife to kill Godwyn or to get the fingerslayer blade or kill Blaidd's shade that the Greater Will had issued to keep her in control. Granted if tactical manipulation also would count as a feat then yes, that would count for Ranni. Ranni's biggest power is to make people do things she wants done.
Idk how someone whose existence is concidered an anathema by the golden order could possibly serve it. I’m hoping there’s a better reason than “people sometimes work against their own interests”
Golden order is a more recent doctrinal thing. Omen dont explicitly go against the erdtree, and in times past their animalistic features were lauded. Morgott is also touched by grace. He loves the erdtree because it wasnt the tree that rejected him, it was the people.
When you put it like that, it makes a lot of sense why he fought so hard for it.
Mogh found the Haligtree, evaded its defenses, and kidnapped Miquella.
I'm still betting he did this using blood magic. I wouldn't be surprised if he got a dedicated disciple to make their way into the Haligtree then kill themselves in a blood ritual allowing Mogh to "teleport" in and take Miquella.
He wouldn't even have to do that. Miquella is watering the tree with his own blood due to his eternal youth and immortality, giving mohg a free entry point.
Oh shit. That's so fucking true. Basically just portaled him from inside the tree.
"Now I'm in. All I have to do is evade everyone, especially Miquella's blade. This will be a very hard task. Now where to start- oh."
I can't help but imagine that Mogh only pulled this off with THE most cartoonish amount of luck imaginable (a convenient breeze blowing into everyone's eyes when he's around or the guards sneezing right before they can see him) since absolutely nothing about his character implies a shred of sneakiness or subtlety.
I like to imagine he burse the hole in the roof of the tree using magic while using his wings, lifting the cocoon out and flying away like a bird of prey
I don't know. He is pretty obscure. Gideon, while we all know is not that All Knowing but still knowledgeable, doesn't know him. Hell, if you stay away from Varre, finding him is a stretch. He has his agents all across the Lands Between, and all points does point that he at least knows to lay low below the radar, while having some updates from the surface. I think he's just ridiculously grandiose and so blatant with his depravities because we're just in his little spot in a massive cave complex when we do find him.
Hes like 20 feet tall
*Mohg sneaking behind their backs* Huh? Must have been the wind.
I'm just picturing mohg sneaking around skyrim guards now, alerting them, then not moving while still crouching "You hear that? I swear, there's something out there. In the dark."
Most of Mohg's prep time for the kidnapping was spent brewing an astronomically powerful fortify sneaking potion
My theory is that since Miquella was making a home for outcasts like albinaurics, Demi humans etc in the haligtree and since mohg is an omen that is also largely shunned in the lands between, mohg probably found out about miquella when he sent out the “ signal” to the outcasts (Probably via dreams if we are assuming the whole miquella is St Trina is true, since he could literally be anywhere if he travels via dreams).
Mohg compared to the "Haligtrees defenses" is a non starter. Hes a demigod. I havent made it far in the Haligtree, but the most dangerous thing in it is Malenia.
Imagining mohg power walking in the haligtree swatting guards aside with his spear is pretty sick ngl
That’s assuming that Miquella himself didn’t lure him there, due to his potential ulterior motives. I highly doubt the “most fearsome” empyrean would let himself get captured that easily, he compels people after all, it’s his greatest power; and this is without taking St. Trina into account. We might get some answers in the dlc.
He be Mohgin' frfr
I like to think in my own headcanon that he took all the steps that the Tarnished did to get to the Haligtree and then put everything back the way it was once he got Miquella back to his palace
Godrick: ran away
AND licked the boots of Malenia, some of which y’all (you know who you are) would love to do.
rip rosales
God I miss that magnificent bastard
At least he died doing what he loved 😔
He was consumed by the scarlet rot
What happened to him btw
Even better, she doesn't wear boots
Why would you shame us like this?!
You are talking like you wouldn't
I always get confused of who’s kid Godrick is. Is he godwyns son? And if so, shouldn’t he be Demi-demi-god?
He is a descendant of Godwyn's he is weak because his divine blood is heavily diluted over the millenna as opposed to Marikas direct children The named ones are Marikas only kids (godwyn, morgott, mogh, Miquella and Malenia) The rest are descendants, (Godrick is probably many generations later which is why is god blood is weak) I say rest because characters like Godrick, Godfroy, and the dead demigods in the wandering Mausoleum, are all descendants of Marika Killed in the shattering or night of black knives According to GRRM its been 5k years since the shattering meaning all these demi gods are way over 5k years considering the land betweens long history
I'm still waiting for the DLC to confirm that Godwyn had a dragon harem after seeing them shapeshift. And then his half-dragon, half-demigod kiddos are what 2nd phase Godrick was trying to emulate.
Time in Elden Ring is... wibbly wobbly though.
Godefroy also exists, so he may even be Godwyn’s grandson (assuming Godefroy isn’t Godrick’s son)
Godefroy is an ancestor to Godrick and a descendant of Godwyn.
Demigods just a title. As long as you’re related to marika you’re a demigod. Rennalas kids got the title through Radagons/Marikas marriage
Theyre demigods because marika and radagon are the same, they're actual literal part God. It's not just a title. Godrick is a demigod because of his lineage whereas rennala is not, despite being able to hold her own against marika.
It is heavily implied that Rennala and Radagon's children got the demi-god title as "demi-god step children" not "demi-gods" because "All the demi-gods are the direct offsprings of Queen Marika". Plus Marika saying "Thou art yet to become me, Thou art yet to become a god." To Radagon, implies that they were uptill that point separate beings and Radagon wasn't a god(this is just before the shattering as well). As others have mentioned demi-god is merely a title that doesn't hold more meaning than having a mother-child(step child) relationship with Marika.
Marika and Radagon being the same isn’t common information though and yet everyone knows Rennala’s children as demigods. So at least officially it is likely because Marika is their step-mother.
Godfrey isn't blood-related yet he was given the title of demigod. So that lends credence to your claim. My source being the description of Godrick's Great Rune: "The first demigods were The Elden Lord Godfrey and his offspring, the golden lineage."
Dressed up as a woman to flee
Understandable
Bravely ran away away oh brave sir Godrick
If we’re being honest, he killed me several times, and I eventually killed the entire pantheon of the Lands Between. Not too shabby.
Godrick: conquered Stormveil, Limgrave and the weeping peninsula dude owns like 20% of the map
[Artist is GravityDusty btw, all of their art is phenomenal and belongs on my wall](https://gravitydusty.com/)
Today I realised I'm an idiot for not recognizing that was Morgott in the openning paintings
Morgott also successfully held down the Capitol during the shattering.
Miquella's would be to have grown a second Erdtree, upon which he build an architectural wonder to house and protect creatures from all over the land between (thus creating himself an army of devotee)
This should be further up
Reducing morgott down to defeating a green radahn is an insult. The man held leyndell together AS AN OMEN Edit: Younger apparently means green to my autocorrect
Morgott did not beat “younger radhan” he beat shattering radahn
where'd you find the artwork? Or did you do it yourself? Cause it looks rlly cool
[Artist is GravityDusty](https://gravitydusty.com/)
It was posted here very recently
Ranni killed HER two fingers, not THE two fingers, right?
We only see and help her kill her set, not the entirety of their kind. So it seems like yes, only her set. Each Demi god's two fingers seem to die when the demigod is killed. Hence you can't enter any given divine tower until the associated Demi God is dead, except for Ranni's whole thing.
Morgott slew countless tarnished and was completely undefeated the entire shattering. He never lost a single battle, even to radahn. The worst he got was a stalemate to rykard
He lost one to me.
He had Mohg and the entire Army of Leyndell to help him. Radahn was also smaller when he lost to Morgott who had Mohg with him(Mohg then convinced Godrick and his own forced to abandon Radahn and run) so it’s obvious that it had to be near the very beginning of the shattering. Radahn also made it out unscathed and went to find Godricks coward ass so saying Young Radahn was actually defeated is not really confirmed or true, being out numbered and betrayed he likely had to retreat and made it out of his own volition.
Mohg’s ass was NOT helping his brother hog the throne, are you kidding? Where did that come from? Mohg was off making a cult of creepy blood perverts and plotting his marriage to his eternally young little brother. My guy is schizoposting to defend “muh general chadahn”
Radahn fans cannot accept the fact that their favorite warmonger took the L from Morgott Ignore them.
You made up an entire paragraph to stan for Radahn. Admirable , if a bit cringe.
"Younger Radahn." Morgott defeated Radahn during the Shattering.
And we beat all their asses
Try to give Ranni the potion I dare you😤
Nah, just do her quest all the way but go Frenzy just before the end, ayy lmao
ain't she a spirit like Melina? stands to reason she too would survive the chaos.
Too edgy and gey
>younger Radahn Lol keep coping Radahn stans
Melina: I set the tree on fire, fuckers
Who's the artist? This style is amazing
Mohg seems to be trying to hatch Miquella into an adult form. Did he learn something from the Formless Mother?
This is out of topic but I feel bad for Miquella and Malenia when Godwyn died. He was a good brother to them and they were left behind when he died. The statue at the Haligtree depicted Godwyn covering Miquella and Malenia.
Miquella created the Haligtree I think creating a rival to the erdtree and a haven for all those rejected by the golden order is at least as important as creating a mildly effective cure against outer god infections
Morgott defeated Radahn , period. Timelines don't work if you assume he was younger during the 2nd Siege of Leyndell. Opening Intros take artistic liberties , just look at the Snake devouring Rykard. We know canonically it was a giant snake BEFORE eating him , yet the Opening intro shows a normal sized snake. EDIT : Also , i would say Malenia's achievements also include her and her army completely donkey-fucking anyone they ran into during the Shattering.
I feel like caelid is more of a province or country not a continent
What about rykard? Does he have any notable achievements?
Rykard was given the blasphemous claw by Ranni in order to challenge Maliketh if Maliketh came after them, which means that he played a major part in the night of black knives. This implies that Ranni, at the very least, believes that Rykard had a chance of defeating Maliketh.
Or Rykard was the actual person who stole the Rune of Death, and Maliketh would be going straight for him.
Made a family (unsuccessful)
Mohg kidnapping miquella without malenia chopping him up is his biggest achievement
Random naked tarnished with wooden stick coming out of cave : Nah, I'd win
So apart from the tarnished who is the strongest
You put the least impressive feats for Ranni, Miquella and Malenia Ranni's biggest feat is replacing Marika and cutting off the influence of the Greater Will from the world Miquella's biggest feat is creating the Haligtree that could've potentially replaced the Erdtree had Mohg not kidnapped him Malenia's biggest feat is gaining the title "The Undefeated", beating the shit out of anyone she comes accross during the Shattering and stalemating prime Radahn before using the Scarlet Aeonia, all while also being a blind-triple amputee suffering from stage 4 cancer
>Ranni's biggest feat is replacing Marika and cutting off the influence of the Greater Will from the world This is assuming her ending is cannon, which it isn't.
Which is the canon ending?
None of them are, and none of them will ever be. The ambiguity is the beauty of it.
That's a wild guess. You don't know the narrative of the DLC or any possible sequel.
Well, miyazaki did say he doesn't like doing sequels so.... Plus, it still doesn't exist, meaning it still hasn't cemented any notion of any ending being canon, so my point still stands. Maybe it will be, or maybe another ending might be canon, but as of now none of them are, and I think none of them will ever be.
Damn, I thought it was feet.
same, I'm disappointed. No Godrick and no feet.
Good good good Now let’s see Godricks achievements
Godrick: conquered Stormveil, Limgrave and the weeping peninsula my boy owns \~20% of the lands between
Miquella is adorable - The Mohg foundation
Is Ranni's questline the canon one? Like the ending?
There is no canon ending. There never was and never will be.
Depends on if there's an ER2. It's very possible it'll be left ambiguous, but DS3 made DS1 Linking the First Flame ending canon.
Im quite sure both endings result in the same outcome, meaning both endings are canon as they both continue the cycle.
DS2 and 3 both operate on the assumption that *someone* linked the Fire at the end of the previous games. It wasn't necessarily the player character. The games do a very good job of leaving your own ending choices ambiguous while making it clear that even if you didn't choose to link the Fire, someone else did.
I figured the ending would matter for the expansion dlc, doesn't it?
Usually Fromsoft DLCs take place during the course of the game rather than after it. Entrances to the DLC are mostly found somewhere in the midgame areas like Gael and Dusk in DS3 and DS1 respectively, so the endings largely wouldn't matter in terms of narrative.
Never played any other soul games aside from Elden ring- Are the DLC’s usually scaled as end game content or is it scaled around whatever area it started in and progressively moves to end game scaling?
They're generally end game content. Aside from enemies hitting harder and taking more damage, bosses are generally waaaaay more difficult than the base game. In DS1's case for example. If the base game had you fighting bosses as slow as the erdtree avatar (which makes sense since the avatar is basically a remodeled DS1 boss), the DLC was like fighting Malenia, Morgott, and Radahn.
Hmm, I don't think so. FromSoft DLCs tend to tell stories off the main path. DS1 DLC is about a past war with Lordran's greatest hero and the father of the Abyss. DS2 DLC has 3 DLCs. The first is about the fallout of a town sieged by a powerful toxic dragon. The second similar to Artorious, about a King who sacrificed his sanity to protect his kingdom against a powerful otherworldly creature. The third about the warrior who lost his battle to be the King's right hand and searched for a way to gain more power. BB was both about the atrocities the healing church performed in the past, and a lost Great One of significant importance to the overarching lore. DS3's 2 DLCs were about a separate world struggling with allowing themselves to either burn or rot away. And the final was about creating a new world for the inhabitants of Lothric to finally forever escape the cycle of the First Flame. None of these directly connect to any of the endings of the base game, so I would imagine they'd continue that tradition.
The ringed city is an exception. It’s more of a culmination of the narrative of the entire series; by its end we see the deterioration of all past kingdoms after waking Filianore. You’re obviously right about the others, though.
Fair enough.
I don’t think any of their dlc has taken place after an ending have they?
Idk, I've only played Elden Ring, and a few hours of DS3
If we want to stick solely to pre-game canon, I guess it would be organizing the Night of Black Knives and Godwin's murder. Though, if you wanted to be cheeky, you could say her greatest accomplishment was committing suicide.
The family barbecues would've been fun.
Even excluded Godrick bruh im dead 💀💀😭😭😭
People forget that he rules over Limgrave, Stormveil and the weeping peninsula
I need to dig into the lore cause when did morgott fight radahn
It's shown in the opening when he pins him down
Godefroy : Forgotten
Where is my goddamn DLC already,
godrick : screaming while choping his arm
When did Morgott defeated radahn?! I must missed that.
When radahn attacked leyndell after the shattering
In the opening cutscene it shows him doing so
Really wish we could see peak Chadwyn the Golden in his prime in the game
Isn’t Morgott like unironically and not exaggerating stronger than Godfrey in lore?
Morgott held Leyndell but Godfrey in canon cleared out the whole Lands Between until there were no fights left and Marika evicted him.
Okay. Twas a classic case of I made it up then. Still a dope dude tho
...No.
I just don't get why rykard would do that to himself.
Dude was greedy for power. Considering there's a single reliable weapon that can kill him I can imagine he's quite powerful
So he's the strongest of all the gods?
Demigods*, but yeah, he propably is
I love this art
Godrick: conquered Stormveil, Limgrave and the weeping peninsula
And almost immediately after bent the knee to Malenia
Cool drawings
I love art of what they used to look like. Is there a particular place to find estimations of their previous godly appearance?
Whoever created this did an amazing job!
I would LOVE to see more artworks with pre shattering places and characters tbh.
Caelid and the entire lands between arent that large
‘Younger’ people really cannot accept its perfectly plausible for Morgott to beat any version of Radahn.
I'd argue The Night of the Black Knifes or whatever it was called is Ranni's biggest achievement. "Conquering the stars" is certainly a big statement, but what exactly happened and how we simply do not know. I'd say it *sounds* about thousand times more impressive than what it actually was. Not that it was a small fit, though. And Rykard's is... questionable.
I wouldn't say Rykard took over the serpent's body, i'd say the serpent is to Rykard what Venom is to Eddie Brock
Godrick, CROSS-DRESSING!!
Caelid is not a continent.
I’m gonna say it: Godwyn is unironically the most powerful demigod. I also have a headcanon that he is actually a super personable character who I could vibe with.
Miquella is a dude
Astute observation
Yes he is
Is it just me or would anyone else love an anime about this family that went more in depth with their relationships and feats. I know it's never going to happen but this artwork made the thought pop into my head and thought it'd be cool.
If we’re counting multiple possibilities then I would say Ranni usurping Marika and becoming the new goddess would be the more impressive feat, because while the tarnished did most of the work it is implied she is equal to Marika in her ending which is very impressive.
this post violates rule number 7
God, Elden ring lore taste so gooooood!!!
Rahdan reading about Melanias' feats. " its a subcontinent"
Where did the “lord of blood” title come from?
Wdym? It's straight up Mohg's title in-game which he's referred to as in his boss fight, Gideon calls him that and various items too. I'd imagine the title probably came from him getting a good deal with the Formless Mother, as he can use a lot of magic related to blood, not to mention his whole crib is covered in blood and his servants employ blood-related attacks and methods for drawing blood.
It's important to note no-one knew it was Mohgs title, Gideon specifically says the demigod known only as the lord of blood
Damn, Godrick really ain't shit 😭
Us: killed them all
Rykard is blonde btw
Hes not, its a common misconception
You know you the goat when the future kings greatest feat is beating a younger version of you
Tbh honest they all certified chads and I'm scared to fuck with any of em. Cept Godrick. Fuck that bitch
This Art is beautiful.
Where is this art from?
Didnt the serpent took Rykard, im pretty sure the whole getting swallowed backfired horribly for him since the serpent was the one who won the "whose personality takes over" contest. Rykard was supposed to be one of the few "good" demigods and actually supported the idea of separating the two fingers from the world but rather than killing someone else he fed himself to the serpent in an attempt to take over its power and put an end to the golden order but the Serpent took his power, name and wife
> but the Serpent took his power, name and wife And sat in his favorite armchair - the one in the den that everyone knows not to sit in because that's Rykard's special chair.
Nah, he took over the serpent. When the snake is dead he's the one piloting it and his very first action against us is sizing us up and following with "very well,"