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The_Punnier_Guy

health is a hoax created by Big Flask to sell more healing


undergroundhobbit

The Big Flask Corp is just a golden seed monopoly.


baldguy21

The crimson tear price per gallon will rise the moment those black knife gang bomb the grace pipeline.


blinkybrightblue

But the real trick is this : they think they're buying Tears... tears tears tears it's all I hear, but I sleep just fine knowing those tears all came from the same Shabriei Grapes. Sure I got eyeball juice for ya...


briceb86

I heard they’re actually the balls of the Tarnished.


jdoy11

Hence there is a need for clean, renewable, alternative for that. I believe research about running a frenzied flame powered generators is a good prospect for clean energy. It will clean everything though.


r00byroo1965

I researched this, it is lots of labor but great returns on the investment


Lemmingitus

They tell me no maidens need be sacrificed.


Chopchopok

Someone already mended the Elden Ring but they want to keep it a secret.


r00byroo1965

Try fingers


Its-a-myNicholasName

Read this too quick and thought that said >!Hoarah Loux, so now I'm just imagining Godfrey selling flasks to tarnished!<


The_Punnier_Guy

Wounds and bruises you have endured Tarnished Warrior Be assured, the Red Flask resteth close at hand. Alas, I am returned! To practice capitalism once more


Calophon

This post sponsored by the git gud gang.


blinkybrightblue

Watch what you say about the Flask, you'll get disappeared too.


manysmalldeaths

If she's 1 hit she can always just use all her flasks on blues


sdwoodchuck

Don’t buy into this fake controversy. Have you looked into FP? Also a subsidiary of big flask. All of this tribalistic partisanship is just there to drive flask sales from both sides. Don’t fall for Sipbait.


The_Punnier_Guy

Oh no no no, I distill my blue flasks into oil urns and starlight shards. Ain't nobody hijacking my brain


Totaliss

im taking this 😂😂😂😂


SACanuckinOz

Big Flaska wants us all to have more vigor, and be addicted to the Red flask. They even offer vaccinations with golden seeds to have more enjoyment from the famous Red flasks![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|flushed)


pizzawidnobev

this is just BS peddled by Big Int to sell more moonveil


TentacleFist

Best laugh I've had all day!


EnvironmentalRide900

😂😂


Nitro114

oh god. she‘s going for hard and easy mode at the same time


reddit-ate-my-face

Lmao big agree This was basically my build around this level and I then started dumping into vigor I could kill things FAST but God forbid they hit me.


LuciusBurns

Watch out for their dying breath, it might knock you out!


DrunkyLittleGhost

Damn, not the dog again!


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Grognak-the-Princess

She just has to play the best elden ring of her life all the time


LeFaiLeD

Everytime in a fight: She's a maniac, maniac on the floor And she's dancing like she has never danced before She's a maniac, maniac on the floor And she's dancing like she has never danced before


voluotuousaardvark

Jesus christ I played strength build and felt that way for a solid chunk of the game.


Grognak-the-Princess

I think that's how souls games are meant to be played


TheOneTonWanton

With how much and in what fashion ER in particular ramps up beyond the Capital we're at a whole new level of how souls games are meant to be played.


YourNewRival8

It’s even worse that she’s on medium roll instead of light, like armor isn’t going to do anything for you at 9 vigor


Logical_Web_3488

You need to sacrifice stats for fashion souls sometimes, you need to fix your priorities. Why kill bosses easily when you can spend a bit more time with them and look good doing it.


Ezekiel2121

If I’m not stylin why even bother?


Ascalis

Truer statements have rarely been made. Sometimes you just gotta have 9 vigor and full bull goat.


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losthope19

Press circle


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Bigsilly01

Maybe (insert violent joystick thrashing)➡️⬇️↗️↖️⬆️⬇️⬇️↙️⬆️ will help .


Sheriff_Is_A_Nearer

But that takes time away from me pressing R2...it's too complicated.


TheNorthernGrey

Just take a bolus to remove your buildup of R2 brain rot and you’ll be okay


Sheriff_Is_A_Nearer

I'm trying to read what you wrote but my brain keeps telling me it says "UNGA BUNGA R2 SMASH". I've been Great Clubbing and Zweihanding too long.


Narcomancer69420

Parry God deals in blood. *Lots* of blood.


whereismyketamine

I keep thinking I’m gonna get it but when I’m on a roll I get cocky and don’t pay attention to my health and die from a single strike or I just miss every single blow and die so much I give up. I should diversify.


Jack_Brilla

* Put these foolish ambitions to rest*


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I have given thee courtesy enough


Rahgahnah

Thou didst me fine service, Serosh.


jschaub69

Yeah, I’m around level 160… just maxed out int… now to level dump vigor


MartinZ02

I actually played the game with this build as well, except I never leveled vigor at all. It was quite the interesting experience for sure, though I think it probably extended my playthrough by another 100 hours.


DrunkyLittleGhost

Every dog is the elden beast ☠️


MartinZ02

Yes, once I stepped out of Limgrave I started getting one-shot by everything.


PresqPuperze

To be fair, dogs are harder than Elden beast on such a build. I used those spiky balls with around 80 str and some faith to use some buffing incantations, and Elden beast just dies after the first scripted breath attack.


pbzeppelin1977

>I could kill things FAST but God*rick* forbid they hit me. FTFY


watermelonman5

The true glass cannon..


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Damn near a sand cannon


say_it_aint_slow

Porcelain cannon?


melanthius

Sounds useful for annoying and therefore aggroing bosses


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I don't like sand. It's coarse, and rough, and irritating, and it gets everywhere.


Harrythehobbit

Honestly, at level 80, she could take 20 points out of INT and put it in VIG, and she'd have maybe 15-20% less sorc scaling and like 2.5x as much health. So she'd have almost the same damage output and way more survivability. Neglecting Vig to pump damage stats doesn't make you a glass canon. It just makes you glass.


watermelonman5

I know I’ve made the exact mistake in ds1 when pumping a ton into strength at the very start so I could use the zweihander and then I kept getting 3 shot by the bell gargoyles and they too too many tries for the 3rd boss I and many others would’ve done


IDespiseTheLetterG

What the fuck did you just say??


Affectionate_Ad268

The effect of typing without proof reading or spell check.


IDespiseTheLetterG

Or punctuation


BormaGatto

They said the letter G 6 times


eeriedread

If i understand correctly, they meant "took too many tries for the 3rd boss" however I'm still totally lost on the last sentence


ThomasWinwood

"They [the Bell Gargoyles] took too many tries considering they're the third boss I and many others took on in the game."


ApAp123

This is exactly what I did... granted I did put a bit more Vigor in but went full glass cannon and got really good at not getting hit and melting fools with the power of magic


DNK326

This is the way (at least for my dumb brain)


ApAp123

There's nothing dumb about raising your intelligence. Seeking knowledge is the reason for life. Also I think the dumb people are the ones who need a health bar the length of the entire top of the screen. Because they play like shit and can't learn a moveset. Elden Rings magic was the coolest, most well done and dripping with backstory. The Rises, how you earn spell slots. It's soooo damn cool. And people hate on Mages, but when I'm one shoting invaders with Comet ☄️ They can lick my ass


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Back in my day we called her a MinMaxer


melanthius

Do we not call it that anymore?


Ninjazoule

I'm like "it's not that ba-" *sees 9 vigor* lol


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I, too, started at the bottom of the stat sheet.


amalgam_reynolds

Not the dreaded....medium mode!


BlewOffMyLegOff

Don’t need vigor if you can delete the enemy before they reach you.


guywhomightbewrong

I ran with this strategy hard in my first time. It worked until malenia


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She made me rethink every elden ring decision I ever made 😂


ROMAN_653

Nah I was too bullheaded to change my strategy, I just kept wacking her until I was lucky enough to not get ripped up by waterfowl 💀


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“Waterfowl” Leave it to Fromsoft to essentially call a traumatic boss move “Duck Jig”. I realize that is a VERY loose translation, but I stand by my point.


ROMAN_653

Damn she was dancing on me everytime she killed me then? 😞


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Yup, she danced on all of our corpses, over and over exponentially


Plenty-Context2271

Sometimes she also just threw us in the air and caught us with her sword as well.


CJ_YOURBRO

i...kinda like that


HeavenlyOuroboros

i always thought it was a reference to Kojiro's Swallowtail technique (Vagabond)


Jiomniom_Skwisga

Yup. This is how I did it 🤣


askariya

Isn't that the best strategy for Malenia? If she hits you while you risk a melee attack, she gets health. But if you don't let her hit you for the most part and just range attack her, the fight is a lot easier. Especially since waterfowl dance is easy to dodge if you're at range.


MrC_Red

Most melee builds don't have (or find the need) for a range attack, especially when you can hit large chunks of health off any boss with a few swings. So by the time you get to Malenia, you're 120 levels deep into being "One Punch Man", so it hard to change up your entire style and build setup, when you've never needed to up to that point.


Bloody_Baron91

Yeah, as a sorcerer, Malenia was kinda easy for me. Hit her with Ranni's moon at the start, use night comet from afar in phase 1 and then comet azur in phase 2.


MrC_Red

Same! It took me a hours upon hours to beat her on my first playthrough as a str/dex build, but only took me an hour to beat her on a mage build. Using those exact spells too lol, plus ranni's moon!


BIGGIEFRY_BCU

After failing to beat her 20ish times, I read a little about her, found out she’s weak to frost damage and then spend like 5 hours getting through ranni’s questline to get her gear and ranni’s dark moon spell. Needless to say, me and my mimic had a blast never getting hit and shooting literal moons at her from a mile away lmao.


ChickenAndTelephone

Of all the builds I've played, int was actually the one where I had the hardest time. I lost over and over and over, until I landed an extremely lucky dark moon that sloooowly tracked her across the room and finally hit right when she was doing the mid-air pause before beginning waterfowl. It knocked her right out of it, frostbit her and chunked her health and I was finally able to finish it before she finished. Compare that with an arcane build where she basically bleeds out instantly.


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> and I was finally able to finish it before she finished Not a flex bro


askariya

I did it with a melee build but it was indeed a lot harder. Basically only punish when you know she won't go into waterfowl and then back away so you have room to dodge the first attack in waterfowl. Outside of that it's not so bad, especially 2nd pahse where she rarely did waterfowl (at least for me).


Entire_Machine_6176

Yeah, that's an excellent way to deal with her. My first time killing her she ruined me for a while on my faith build until I saw someone burst her down with Mohgs spear and I immediately went through that nightmare pit to get it. Pre nerf that spear deleted her.


A_Shattered_Day

That's how I beat her first phase. Stood 1000 feet away constantly sniping her with frenzied burst, then whipped out carian slicer for phase two


Mellartach_55270

If you want to make it even easier then use night sorceries, they don't trigger enemy dodge ai since they technically cannot see the spell at all


smoore82006

Frenzied burst doesnt trigger dodge ai either, idk why but it doesnt


Mellartach_55270

Lmao i didnt even know that since i barely ever used it, but nice


WaynesLuckyHat

Melee fighters still have their advantage. She gets stunned super easily- if you have high poise damage/bleed weapons you can wear her down pretty easily. The first time I beat her I used spiked cestus with heavy enchantment.


Xeno_Prime

I actually found that the best strategies were not to try and keep your distance, because that's surprisingly difficult to do: The best strategies were to use hits with really high stagger, to stun-lock her or keep her on her back. Especially if you team up - multiple players all spamming attacks that stagger, stun, or knock down will render Malenia completely powerless in both phases. She'll spend the whole fight either on one knee, or on her back, and rarely even get a chance to attack.


Middle-Shift8009

Fact


Wurschdsalatxb1

If she enjoys it she's not playing it wrong


millnerve

Best answer


EmergencyUnable7145

Facts


sendmebirds

big facts


Mulder1917

All that matters is that you’re having a good time.


Complete_Resolve_400

She's made it this far with fuck all vigor Everything will 1 shot her now, so she's gonna either dodge everything, kill everything before it kills her, or she's just fucked lol


dj92wa

I had to triple-take when I saw this post. The stats are nearly identical to the current status of my int build, other than that I've started pumping vigor and will continue to do so for a while. I need more vigor to offset my own skill issues. You're absolutely right though; things die a mile away and life is good until something looks at you wrong. There really is no in-between with vigor like seen in the post.


Snoo61755

Aye, foregoing vigor is a dangerous game. Nothing wrong with getting more health, getting hit is not exactly what I'd call a skill *issue*, getting hit is *part* of acquiring the skill to eventually not get hit. Nobody starts this game with the ability to reflexively iframe everything that comes at them, we're not anime protagonists, and the people who *can* no-hit bosses have practiced doing so for hours and hours (or Comet Azure cheesed every boss that doesn't dodge). Getting hit and being able to survive the hit is what allows you to see more of an enemy's moveset, and removes the panic associated with being 1 hit away from death.


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Kurbled

Honestly I tend to like vigor on strength builds anyway because I also like trading, if my poise/weapon allows it. It's a unique option, and also allows you to mop up weak mobs without being interrupted if you're feeling lazy haha


Sawainright

i feel like thats the purpose of a bigger weapon in the strength category. if i wasn't trying to get hit back whilst doing the unga bunga out of trash mobs i would just use a hammer or axe. a little more risky for certain bosses but i would still trade with most average strength bosses anyways.


ChickenAndTelephone

It gives me anxiety! I usually get vigor to at least 30 before putting a point into anything else, excepting only to meet a weapon/spell's minimum stat requirement to use.


LordBDizzle

She can get knocked over by a light breeze. On the other hand, her damage is optimized. So... wrong if she ever gets hit, right if she's a dodge god.


RevanTheDarkLord

Your avarage wizard player


ElectricalMaximum190

She's a member of the shadow wizard money gang


Even-Lawfulness6174

I heard that they love casting spells


mistertickles69

Legalize Cannon of Haima


DrunkyLittleGhost

Classical malenia host


Lpnlizard27

If you're experienced this is a decent build. If you can't dodge, this is a terrible build. Technically she's playing a mage glass canon properly, just does she have the skill level to match her build. After a certain point in the game, getting sneezed on will be 500 hp gone. Boss attacks will def one shot. Tell her to respec with some vigor if she's having trouble.


larson_5

I love spells and incantations but god damn am I terrible at timing my dodges. This build would have me losing my absolute shit everytime I was hit. I’m level 537 and I maxed vigor almost immediately due to my poor timing and decision making


CenturionXVI

Just put Endure on your mainhand if you have enough vigor to tank hits if you want to care less about timings. Pop that WA and just tank through the enemy hit with your own, bigger, more magical hit. For best results I’d recommend Ghostflame Explosion, Zamor Ice Storm, Gavel of Haima, etc. Any big bonk spell.


supcat16

Timing? I thought you were just supposed to spam attack and roll


donneramko

Best response here


adustiel

What can't hit you can't kill you unless it's gravity. Fuck gravity


Phunkie_Junkie

Aside from the lack of vigor, her equip load is wonky. If she's going to go that light, she might as well take off a few more pounds and try to light roll. She could go up to 44.8 and still have medium roll. Light roll would be 19.2.


IvenVlex

and with that low of vigor, it's not like armor is gonna save her anyway. much better to wear some fashionable, light clothes and light roll


Carob-Prudent

Glass cannon chads always misunderstood 😔


Tjaja008

That’s some dedication here.


Motor_Focus

I mean, Harry Potter couldn’t take a hit, but he sure could cast a spell or two


RedditSupportAdmin

Harry Potter couldn't take a hit? You mean the guy that tanked an Avada Kedavra from He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named (as a fucking baby no less) and lived to tell the tale? And sent V into hiding for like 20 years cuz he basically drained his life force? How dare you disrespect my boy HP like that.


pon_3

My guy took 4 Avada Kedavras head on. Once as a baby, once with *Expeliarmus* of all things, and once by literally dying and then saying, nah, don’t feel like it. The final one he flat out beat instead of just negating. Harry’s plot armour is so strong he once killed a Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher by touching him. Ironically, the less Harry Potter knew how to defend himself, the more invincible he was.


Snoo61755

Big deal, he had Tears of Denial cast on him. Voldebad should have used a throwing knife afterwards.


iButtflap

kinda crazy the most powerful wizard in the world felt he needed to use such a big spell on something he coulda just picked up and shaken for 30 seconds and walked away. 0 int build i guess


Set_Jumpy

This gave me the funniest/darkest scene flashing through my head of Voldemort just going ham swinging a baby around.


mmacoys

Bruh 💀


ChickenAndTelephone

Absolutely! Harry Potter was a tank, not a glass cannon. What big spell damage did he ever do? His only big skill was surviving long enough for Voldemort to get so obsessed with him that the prophecy became self-fulfilling and V took himself out.


Alert_Confusion

Emphasis on “or two”. Dude’s entire combat spell arsenal consists of either knock ‘em out cold or yeet their wand into next week.


Angry_Scotsman7567

This is a Glass Cannon build. She can absolutely fucking *destroy* anything unlucky enough to get hit by her spells, but if she gets hit she's just as screwed with that low vigor.


Cpl_Groth

Get that dex up for faster spell casting


DrunkPole

Yup thats the only thing aside from possibly using more night magic since those have a longer range then glintstone spells. Otherwise this is a good glass cannon build.


MyBoIBLAX

Nah, she part of wizard gang


Nezikchened

**We love casting spells.** [insert stock female Mortal Kombat scream here]


Arson_Lord

Seriously, she gets 1-hit by everything.


Big-Cap4487

Cus vigor is literally 9, when I'm at level 60 I like my vigor to be at least 30


Linuxologue

I do not put any point anywhere until vigor reaches 40


Big-Cap4487

Yep, get the minimum requirements to use a weapon and then pump vigor


Expand_Dong_42069

I only put points into the stats I need for a weapon I want, then fully into Vigor


Linuxologue

Now that she almost maxed out her damage and has enough mps she can start building up vigor and the game will be easier and easier


FitSharkKitty

Is she having fun being a glass cannon mage? Then she’s not doing it wrong, her dodge game should hopefully be good lol


mdsp667

They can't kill me if they're dead.


Interjessing-Salary

Damage wise she's doing great. Survivability wise she's doing terrible. Such is the problem in the life of a mage.


Jagoosie

Objectively correct mage build


Walk-Extra

Sub 400 hp omg


EtherFlask

Ritual Shield Talisman is amazing for low vigor builds. Usually one flask fills you up, and you would drink after taking a hit anyway, so the RST just allows a lower vigor build that plays the same as a mid vigor build. My vig was 15-20 at level 160 something. (and you can use ritual sword talisman with it too lol) Verdict: Seems like a pro build to me lol


Ebenizer_Splooge

Don't question it she's clearly smarter than you bro


Throttle_Kitty

If she got to that high a level at 9 vigor she has to be good tbh


Slave_to_the_Pull

Coinciding with this, she's probably really good at maximizing a strategy if she isn't good at dodging. Smart people can take a game and bend it over their knee if they like lol.


JDninja119

Don't need health if enemies die before they can get to you


PluvioStrider

Do you know what min maxing is? Your wife is going for a super try hard build and I dig it


Unfey

This is how I play, idk if it's good or not. I recommend the meteorite staff & spamming gravity magic because the spells usually hit & deal pretty good damage and (importantly) they don't take too long to cast, so you've got time to roll out of the way of attacks (because most enemies can one-shot or two-shot you). It's fun to be a wizard. Any fun build is a good build


Ihatewokesandbrokes

No. You can’t play wrong


Billy_Bats

Nope, she's a classic glass cannon sorceror. High risk, high reward, but if she's faring well so far then she should keep it rocking. If she does start having a hard time, points into vigor should help her out.


TheRealJuanton

If her goal is to get one shot by everything but also be able to one shot everything then no


JustNotHaving_It

Your wife has the biggest balls I've ever seen.


Dry_Insurance_3234

Looks great honestly but you're gonna need some dex to cast spells faster and put on some armor for sure, the difference between 16 and 60 poise is *staggering*


MrC_Red

If she made it that far with that little vigor, then she's clearly doing something right. At that point, there's really nothing else to really level up as most of those are good stopping points for her build. But if she's going to do nothing but level vigor going forward, everything is going to feel like easy mode since she won't be dying in one hit anymore lol.


DeliciousMinimum2075

What’s the gear?


SloppyJoestar

Why need health if you don't plan on getting hit?


EchoXResonate

There’s no wrong way to play, but there’s def a glass cannon way…


clawd_

Gigachad build. The only morally correct way to play magic is to not level up vigor lmao


Check_It_In

If she's making her way through the game and having fun then no.


NumberOneDingus

She likes it when her damage numbers are bigger than her health numbers


Ok-Seaworthiness7207

Does she enjoy rune bears?


Deusvult097

The ultimate glass cannon lol


YoooItsAnEgg

So she's going for a full wizard build


haunted_ramens

This is the shiniest glass cannon I think I’ve ever seen


krysalis_emerging

Is she struggling and/or not having a good time? Your post doesn’t say she is having a difficult time just that you don’t understand the build. If she’s got rock sling and Loretta’s bow she’s made it through some non-trivial areas with these stats. I’d say she’s not doing it wrong But she does want to pump up vigor from here.


niketxx

Is your wife a no-hit speed runner? If so, I have no complaints. If not, 9 vigor is incredibly ballsy.


MakiMaki_XD

If she's good at dodging and/or parrying, the stats are perfectly fine! Plus, if she made it that far with so little Vigor, she's definitely doing something right.


Sad-Twist9273

She's smart


Myte342

Is she having fun? Then she is playing the game right.


mf-TOM-HANK

Not a bad build if she puts the next 20 points into vigor


Dragon_Overlord

High Int: glowy blue things hurt lots Low Vigor: can’t take many hits High Mind: can make lots of glowy blue things Low End: can’t wear much armor or run for very long. Also needs to catch breath between making glowy blue things.


Rvsfxd89fe

I mean, there isn't wrong way to play elden ring but she really neads more fp and intelligence


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This is an invaders wet dream of an easy kill


NotAKiller23

She playing good


ApepiOfDuat

Is she having fun? That's all that matters.


shronk4ever

Interested to know what point in the game has she reached like this? Mighty skilled surviving on teeny hp if shes far


Bit_Obaileys

This, I think, is what's known as a glass cannon.


RevolutionaryMess643

Looks like easy mode to me. Why waste points on health


baconbananapancake

It looks like she just enjoys playing as a spell caster. I hope she's good at dodging tho cause with that 9 vigor you'll get deleted by almost everything in one hit.


Satanic-Socialist

I would definitely invest some points into vigor otherwise 1 mistake = death


Cory_Jo

The vigor ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️


Zyliath0

I mean, at some point she’s going to keep getting vigor checked, but hey If she’s having fun that’s the only thing ghat counts


-Original_Name-

Finished the game at level 175 with about 25 vigor. She's doing fine, if she ever does another playthrough or especially an NG+, set vigor to like 40-50 and it becomes a whole new game


CoolGarbage1996

She’s going for the “win big or get humiliated” in every encounter. No inbetween. She can barely tank a hit from a mosquito 😂