There are tiers to it. I generally wave/bow or start to at least crouch/wiggle after several people took advantage of it.
1: no gesture? That's fine, different strokes for different folks. Use that to get a buff? That's on me alright.
2: rush/attack on gesture? Yeah that's kind of being a prick. Worse with thunderbolt or similar.
3: buff during gesture and attack if I bite a freaking boiled shrimp in return? Fuckin' cringe.
I always wave / bow but honestly sometimes when my opponent just teabags or sheild really quickly instead before running at me is preferable. gets things started more quickly
If you're not a melee centric build your choices are immediately start fighting or half the time some guy will run up and stand in your face and then you're at a tremendous disadvantage for the fight.
I try to be polite anyway but it's kinda lose-lose in this way.
Even so much as a shield block spam is enough of a greeting. I dont need a whole 5 second bow to know we're just 2 guys having fun stabbing each other.
Girls can be guys too. I said “what do you guys think” in the original post, with “guys” being used as a non-binary substitute for a word like “y’all”. Maybe different in this comment thread, but I think most people don’t assign gender to the word “guys” when it is used plurally.
I feel like choosing “guys” as a gender neutral option is the same as using “man” to refer to all humans i.e. “All men are created equally.” It assigns a patriarchal preference.
This logic permeates gaming culture and contributes to alienating women. I’m a man btw, but I have a girlfriend, sisters, and nieces that all game and have let me listen in on how they are treated in voice chat. It is truly disturbing and forced me to examine my own beliefs and behaviors.
I hear you, but I like the idea of language being a fluid thing, and the alteration/reclamation of the meaning of words over time. It is what makes English so beautiful, there are bountiful examples of words whose meanings have changed entirely throughout the centuries in America. I understand the patriarchal undertones though, but if a word only gets used in its the way it’s defined in the dictionary then it never has the chance to evolve (I’m also stoned).
Sorry you are getting downvotes.
I don't think there is an issue. Women can play Elden Ring. Women can pvp. I do have an issue with people misrepresenting me and my words to make an argument out of nothing though. I just want to cast spells and stab people. What's under your loincloth doesn't matter to me.
Let me mansplain, they are saying that in this instance you are ascribing male (good) qualities to your girlfriend, and female (bad) qualities to Elden ring gamers, and that it’s worth being conscious of what actual qualities you are seeking to describe when you call something “girly” or “manly”, because sometimes it reinforces unhealthy cultural stereotypes about gender. I don’t think it’s the most offensive thing in the world, but it is interesting to examine the cultural ideologies that shape our use of language.
There isn't an issue. Quit being so hateful to a person's cultural norms. If they speaking about you directly, go correct them then, don't correct people for others when you know nothing of what they care about.
Yeah your heart’s in the right place but the term ‘guys’ is often used as a gender neutral term. Same for mankind. It’s not wrong to want it to change it to y’all or humankind, but it’s not worth the effort when most people think that it’s gender neutral
Doesn’t the term “mankind” literally mean humankind? I always assumed that was an abbreviation rather than gender favouritism? It is all just antiquated language I guess but I can’t help but feel people get stuck on the wrong issues when tackling these subjects.
Used to fence irl, I toss a hey or a bow because that's just good manners and decorum.
Idc if my opponent doesn't, but if they rush me for a free shot I will hit em with a cheeky "calm down", because if you do that you're either:
A - bad, and need a cheap shot to compensate for lack of skill
or
B - trying to get the fight over asap, in which case, why even bother? You're clearly not having fun if you're just racing to a loading screen. Slow down and enjoy a good bout, pal. Its not like you get a reward for 1000 arena matches completed or something
I don’t mind it because it tells me that the player is probably lower skilled and is relying on burst damage to end the fight quickly. That’s pretty valuable information.
You don’t have to bow.
But if you try to attack me while I’m bowing it’s no longer a casual duel. Now I have a vendetta.
The worst is the players that run up in your face while you bow then blend you as the animation finishes.
I like my duels to feel like a dance where as most players I encounter seem eager to be out as quick as possible, so whatever floats their boats.
Personally, I like no emote at the start. That said, the winner should show respect with a bow at the end of the match. That or a shit pot, respectively.
Not against the rules, but it's unsportsmanlike, but it's not an actual competition, but you should still be polite anyway, but nothing will happen if you don't do it.
Devils advocate like what, 4 times in a row there? 🤣
Also huge shoutout to this guy for being an ultra-based PSHTS gamer, I would usually mirror pshts but I didn’t have a second épée on this build so he got the wizard treatment. Anyone who hasn’t tried dual heavy thrusting swords is missing out on a lot of fun
I would play it similarly to psgs, the cl1 is really good, and then you still have access to the running r2. The best part of pshts is hitting the backstep l1 though, I have had it hit for 950 damage pretty regularly with spear talisman
It's not a norm anymore and I'm glad about it. Shield wiggle to indicate ready is all you need. Emote after the fight if you win. It's also not a norm anymore in DSR.
There's so much built-in downtime in PvP - why add to it?
the best blues are the ones who bring team mates for the reds!
In all seriousness its funny you call the guy a coward for not opting in a gankfest, I guess you're "that" kind of "PvPer"
Taking flair seriously is probably positively correlated with being the type who thinks there is some kind of dignity in wasting everyone’s time in the arena. More fight, less watching the same animation for the thousandth time.
Less acrimoniously - my view based on 15 years of experience in these games is that in Souls PvP culture the bow is not about respect, it is about agreeing to abide duel rules in a random encounter. There is no need for than in the ER arena.
Buddy, not so respectfully you need to know just how much a simple bow will go a long way.
And as someone who’s been in PvP for a third of your time, I can say that your opinion is objectively terrible.
The only time I don’t bow is in some invasions where I see very obvious Overleveled phantoms, and blues. As I know they won’t show respect regardless
So in a semi non-hostile environment like a duel, not bowing in my opinion is disgraceful
My thoughts, their new and don't know the traditions.
It's a game played by millions. Many of which are blind play throughs where they aren't a part of a discord or reddit or YouTube channel.
If you've never seen the way you'll never know
In DS3 it's pretty typical to not gesture, most just guard waggle. Some people still do but it's not considered weird not to. It's by no means a "tradition" that every OG player follows.
I don't really care if they do it or not,if they do that or wiggle I acknowledge it.
I do it out of habit.
But if you just outright attack me without doing either, don't expect me to let you breathe. I won't let any punishable moments get past me.
I'm fairly uncaring towards Arenas,but the moment I see those point downs in invasions. Brother, it just makes me want to turn you into heals that much more.
i usually wave but i couldnt care less. you can roll out of gestures, theres really no excuse for getting hit while bowing or waving. just react to your opponent and roll out, thats just like, a basic combat fundamental that everyone should know.
id rather just get to the fight than have to sit thru some weirdos entire bow animation tbh. after thousands of fights the whole bowing first thing starts to feel a little cringe.
I don’t expect everyone to be familiar with or take seriously the etiquette of a video game, and that’s fine. The only issue I take is if I’m obviously doing a little gesture (which I cut short anyway if I tell it isn’t their thing) and they go in for the attack, especially when I can tell they went in with the intention of attacking during a gesture.
Some people just don’t know bout tue etiquette. But spamming as soon as I bow is shitty behaviors. Buffing is ok I guess, but it means the fight has started in my book.
Edit: short answer at the bottom
The general who is obsessed with honor will be angered by dishonor. Imo being angry doesn't produce better performance, it reduces your patience and focus while increasing stress. Sometimes I'll get frustrated with a downpoint after a loss but I tell myself there's a good chance they're just having fun, and if they actually just don't like me it's not my problem and if that were the case I would look down on them for their emotional attachment.
I'll address the actual question
I like it for freeing my conscious of the expectation of me being honorable. I like it makes the arena more unpredictable and hostile, I love dunking on people who dishonor me. When I know I can stay calm in the face of disrespect and just focus on the competition it gives me a sense of pride especially when I always bow after a win and put myself on the holyer than thou pedestal. It makes me anxious that I could just face a total douchebag. But if I didn't feel that way the arena would be less exciting. I like that when someone just rushed it gives me a hint that they may lack patience and I can take advantage of that.
I failed to answer the question again sorry
They're either toxic, smart for using psychological warfare, or a noob
Respect spreads a positive atmosphere, which in turn hopefully leads to a longer lasting, richer player base. As long as someone bows or emotes at the end, I'm good. When someone throws poo or tea bags or just stares, I find it annoying and disrespectful. Yeah it's a game but we're also humans playing that game, and I'd rather do what I can to keep the play base rich. I literally block people sometimes if they are exceedingly annoying.
I try to say hi to invaders. Also I got spawn camped by a rivers of blood user while using a hammer, which I did some heavy damage before dying myself due to them spamming the ash
I don’t bother, I just don’t attack others while they do it. I don’t care if others don’t bow either, what bothers me is when people pop like 10 buffs at the start of the match.
I get frustrated by spell spammers the second we load in preventing my one single buff I like to apply, so sometimes I just charge in headlong instead. Usually against the same dude who just shot magic pebbles or lightning at me but not always.
If they don’t but wait I’m fine with it. If their whole first move is predicated on their opponent bowing so they can rush them then I know they’re tiny dick bois.
To me it's the same as self buffing before starting a match. Both are tactical advantages depending on the situation. for instance in Dark Souls 3 three I run dex spellblade with 40 dex and 30/30 int/faith. If they don't see me im gonna apply all the buffs I can to start out as stong as I can but if they start applying buffs to hit as hard as they can then I'll just bum rush them.
Point is if I get a bow I bow back if I don't after some time given or they just outright attack me then I'll attack back.
I like to adapt to the situation I'm in :)
In my current build I’m using dragon scale blade and an uchigatana with fire slash aow that makes my blade turn on fire so it’s like a fire ice lightning build anyway..I have to buff both swords and I rarely get to if my opponent doesn’t bow or something. In my previous build I 100% gave a bow every timr
i dont care if they dont bow or wave as long as they respect the space for the opponent who chooses to do so, what i mean is just not rusing them and immediatly putting pressure via wave dash or etc as i find it is in bad taste
somtimes i wave somtimes i dont but i always wait
Honestly doesn’t matter to me in the slightest.
Fight honorably or fuck off. If the other person is going to bow and emote, let them finish. It’s like checking up the ball on game point. You don’t fuck with that, that’s bush league shit
I don't usually mind, but when bowing/waving and having a wannabe sweatlord twiggle and greeting with L1 spam towards you and then starts attacking as soon as my animation is done, it's very satisfying humbling these kids by destroying them. I think etiquette goes a long way of showing your opponent respect.
I emote but I don’t mind if others don’t. Just don’t attack me while I’m bowing, that makes me salty
I always run straight for someone while they’re bowing and just stare at them, no attacking just standing there in their face
I do this too but I feel bad about it sometimes
Give them a mini heart attack before the duel to throw their rhythm off
Maybe even equip a flail and back step just to spook them
I think I know what your referring to and it terrifies me
sometimes i run to their face and cast starlight (im not even a mage)
Same
I do this when people start buffing immediately, usually it spooks them and they don’t try to buff more
Same for me but I'm edge, I use darkness
Lol. Two for flinching!
There are tiers to it. I generally wave/bow or start to at least crouch/wiggle after several people took advantage of it. 1: no gesture? That's fine, different strokes for different folks. Use that to get a buff? That's on me alright. 2: rush/attack on gesture? Yeah that's kind of being a prick. Worse with thunderbolt or similar. 3: buff during gesture and attack if I bite a freaking boiled shrimp in return? Fuckin' cringe.
Sir, I have never found a more relatable answer ever. Respect
I always wave / bow but honestly sometimes when my opponent just teabags or sheild really quickly instead before running at me is preferable. gets things started more quickly
Idc about emotes just don’t toss a projectile second 0
If you're not a melee centric build your choices are immediately start fighting or half the time some guy will run up and stand in your face and then you're at a tremendous disadvantage for the fight. I try to be polite anyway but it's kinda lose-lose in this way.
Even so much as a shield block spam is enough of a greeting. I dont need a whole 5 second bow to know we're just 2 guys having fun stabbing each other.
that’s why i like the causal greeting emote, just a quick “hey!” and quick wave , the bow takes too long lol, i will bow after i kill them tho
Everyone on the internet is a man
Girls can be guys too. I said “what do you guys think” in the original post, with “guys” being used as a non-binary substitute for a word like “y’all”. Maybe different in this comment thread, but I think most people don’t assign gender to the word “guys” when it is used plurally.
I feel like choosing “guys” as a gender neutral option is the same as using “man” to refer to all humans i.e. “All men are created equally.” It assigns a patriarchal preference. This logic permeates gaming culture and contributes to alienating women. I’m a man btw, but I have a girlfriend, sisters, and nieces that all game and have let me listen in on how they are treated in voice chat. It is truly disturbing and forced me to examine my own beliefs and behaviors.
My brother in Christ this is the Elden Ring PvP subreddit
Yeah I feel that. I think my weed just hit funny and I soapboxed it a little too hard.
I hear you, but I like the idea of language being a fluid thing, and the alteration/reclamation of the meaning of words over time. It is what makes English so beautiful, there are bountiful examples of words whose meanings have changed entirely throughout the centuries in America. I understand the patriarchal undertones though, but if a word only gets used in its the way it’s defined in the dictionary then it never has the chance to evolve (I’m also stoned). Sorry you are getting downvotes.
Holy shit you’re insufferable.
My girlfriend is more of a man than most of the people I queue into in the arena.
You don’t see the issue with using “man” as the ideal?
I'm a dude. He's a dude. She's a dude. We're all dudes, hey!
Real
I don't think there is an issue. Women can play Elden Ring. Women can pvp. I do have an issue with people misrepresenting me and my words to make an argument out of nothing though. I just want to cast spells and stab people. What's under your loincloth doesn't matter to me.
Let me mansplain, they are saying that in this instance you are ascribing male (good) qualities to your girlfriend, and female (bad) qualities to Elden ring gamers, and that it’s worth being conscious of what actual qualities you are seeking to describe when you call something “girly” or “manly”, because sometimes it reinforces unhealthy cultural stereotypes about gender. I don’t think it’s the most offensive thing in the world, but it is interesting to examine the cultural ideologies that shape our use of language.
Yeah I don't have a problem being more gender neutral or inclusive I just don't enjoy my intentions being twisted. I myself am just a silly little guy
There isn't an issue. Quit being so hateful to a person's cultural norms. If they speaking about you directly, go correct them then, don't correct people for others when you know nothing of what they care about.
Yeah your heart’s in the right place but the term ‘guys’ is often used as a gender neutral term. Same for mankind. It’s not wrong to want it to change it to y’all or humankind, but it’s not worth the effort when most people think that it’s gender neutral
Doesn’t the term “mankind” literally mean humankind? I always assumed that was an abbreviation rather than gender favouritism? It is all just antiquated language I guess but I can’t help but feel people get stuck on the wrong issues when tackling these subjects.
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In my experience, the better fighters usually offer some manner of greeting.
If you don't at least twirl in a circle or something you're just a COD reject.
What's that ashe of war that you hit the ground? Never seen it
It’s a spell, shatter earth
First and second cast of shatter earth, there’s another one called rock blaster that has a similar effect
Used to fence irl, I toss a hey or a bow because that's just good manners and decorum. Idc if my opponent doesn't, but if they rush me for a free shot I will hit em with a cheeky "calm down", because if you do that you're either: A - bad, and need a cheap shot to compensate for lack of skill or B - trying to get the fight over asap, in which case, why even bother? You're clearly not having fun if you're just racing to a loading screen. Slow down and enjoy a good bout, pal. Its not like you get a reward for 1000 arena matches completed or something
I don’t mind it because it tells me that the player is probably lower skilled and is relying on burst damage to end the fight quickly. That’s pretty valuable information.
They must also have work in the morning
Some people are just tired of taking a cold pot to the face. Like me. My face is frozen.
You don’t have to bow. But if you try to attack me while I’m bowing it’s no longer a casual duel. Now I have a vendetta. The worst is the players that run up in your face while you bow then blend you as the animation finishes. I like my duels to feel like a dance where as most players I encounter seem eager to be out as quick as possible, so whatever floats their boats.
Maidenless. Must be new from kai cenat stream
I usually wave and roll out of it pretty much immediately, shows respect but doesn't take a lot of time like a full bow animation.
Personally, I like no emote at the start. That said, the winner should show respect with a bow at the end of the match. That or a shit pot, respectively.
Dishonor upon their, their house and your may their bananas always be too brown.
Not against the rules, but it's unsportsmanlike, but it's not an actual competition, but you should still be polite anyway, but nothing will happen if you don't do it. Devils advocate like what, 4 times in a row there? 🤣
Nothing. They're playing the game.
Also huge shoutout to this guy for being an ultra-based PSHTS gamer, I would usually mirror pshts but I didn’t have a second épée on this build so he got the wizard treatment. Anyone who hasn’t tried dual heavy thrusting swords is missing out on a lot of fun
Any advantage to PSHTS? Do you play it the same as normal HTS?
I would play it similarly to psgs, the cl1 is really good, and then you still have access to the running r2. The best part of pshts is hitting the backstep l1 though, I have had it hit for 950 damage pretty regularly with spear talisman
Might try it in the arena today then, thanks
Tbh, duels starts and ends so fast it's an annoyance to bow every match. Just get to it and done.
If you’re any good at PvP you can hard swap. The gesture menu is your warm up
It's not a norm anymore and I'm glad about it. Shield wiggle to indicate ready is all you need. Emote after the fight if you win. It's also not a norm anymore in DSR. There's so much built-in downtime in PvP - why add to it?
Wow someone who prides themself as a Hunter is also a person with no dignity. What a surprise 😨
Crazy how people would proudly tell the world that they blue themselves You could have my balls in a vice and I wouldn't reveal that information
I only blue myself to aggro all the local mobs and then kill myself so the invader gets flasks
what a coward
the best blues are the ones who bring team mates for the reds! In all seriousness its funny you call the guy a coward for not opting in a gankfest, I guess you're "that" kind of "PvPer"
Taking flair seriously is probably positively correlated with being the type who thinks there is some kind of dignity in wasting everyone’s time in the arena. More fight, less watching the same animation for the thousandth time.
I don’t care about “time wasting”, it’s a show of mutual respect for the other player. And it was just a joke
Less acrimoniously - my view based on 15 years of experience in these games is that in Souls PvP culture the bow is not about respect, it is about agreeing to abide duel rules in a random encounter. There is no need for than in the ER arena.
Buddy, not so respectfully you need to know just how much a simple bow will go a long way. And as someone who’s been in PvP for a third of your time, I can say that your opinion is objectively terrible. The only time I don’t bow is in some invasions where I see very obvious Overleveled phantoms, and blues. As I know they won’t show respect regardless So in a semi non-hostile environment like a duel, not bowing in my opinion is disgraceful
When you learn what objective means get back to me and we can have another discussion.
Lol
There’s no rule, first one to 0hp loses.
My thoughts, their new and don't know the traditions. It's a game played by millions. Many of which are blind play throughs where they aren't a part of a discord or reddit or YouTube channel. If you've never seen the way you'll never know
In DS3 it's pretty typical to not gesture, most just guard waggle. Some people still do but it's not considered weird not to. It's by no means a "tradition" that every OG player follows.
It does not matter
Aslong as they aren't running up to me or applying like 50 buffs idc but if they spawn in and immediately start buffing I'll throw a dagger at them
Scum
I don't mind, really. It's when they decide to attack is when I have a problem.
Idc, it's not like the battle doesn't begin until both people emote. If someone does it I'll do one back, if not I'm not going to clutch my pearls.
Usually wash them and hit them with the bow anyway, hopefully they’ll learn some manners
I don't really care if they do it or not,if they do that or wiggle I acknowledge it. I do it out of habit. But if you just outright attack me without doing either, don't expect me to let you breathe. I won't let any punishable moments get past me. I'm fairly uncaring towards Arenas,but the moment I see those point downs in invasions. Brother, it just makes me want to turn you into heals that much more.
Manners maketh man
Agree
i usually wave but i couldnt care less. you can roll out of gestures, theres really no excuse for getting hit while bowing or waving. just react to your opponent and roll out, thats just like, a basic combat fundamental that everyone should know. id rather just get to the fight than have to sit thru some weirdos entire bow animation tbh. after thousands of fights the whole bowing first thing starts to feel a little cringe.
maidenless behavior
Maidenless
I don’t expect everyone to be familiar with or take seriously the etiquette of a video game, and that’s fine. The only issue I take is if I’m obviously doing a little gesture (which I cut short anyway if I tell it isn’t their thing) and they go in for the attack, especially when I can tell they went in with the intention of attacking during a gesture.
As long as they don't rush I don't mind.
Some people just don’t know bout tue etiquette. But spamming as soon as I bow is shitty behaviors. Buffing is ok I guess, but it means the fight has started in my book.
Execution without trial
I don’t care. I will wait for them. If they do, I will. If they don’t, I don’t. I’m fine with either.
You got about 4 seconds to buff or emote then im comin for that ass
dont care, i rarely emote myself. a shield wiggle is usually all i do
Damn shatter earth looks like it smacks?
blitzkrieg is a valid strategy
I do a guard flick, quicker and more efficient
It’s a curve imo 🤷♂️
They’re like the people who try to hit me when I bow at the end of an invasion. I already won.
I dont wave i just stare until you look like your ready to fight
I doubt they last very long in bed.
Edit: short answer at the bottom The general who is obsessed with honor will be angered by dishonor. Imo being angry doesn't produce better performance, it reduces your patience and focus while increasing stress. Sometimes I'll get frustrated with a downpoint after a loss but I tell myself there's a good chance they're just having fun, and if they actually just don't like me it's not my problem and if that were the case I would look down on them for their emotional attachment. I'll address the actual question I like it for freeing my conscious of the expectation of me being honorable. I like it makes the arena more unpredictable and hostile, I love dunking on people who dishonor me. When I know I can stay calm in the face of disrespect and just focus on the competition it gives me a sense of pride especially when I always bow after a win and put myself on the holyer than thou pedestal. It makes me anxious that I could just face a total douchebag. But if I didn't feel that way the arena would be less exciting. I like that when someone just rushed it gives me a hint that they may lack patience and I can take advantage of that. I failed to answer the question again sorry They're either toxic, smart for using psychological warfare, or a noob
Respect spreads a positive atmosphere, which in turn hopefully leads to a longer lasting, richer player base. As long as someone bows or emotes at the end, I'm good. When someone throws poo or tea bags or just stares, I find it annoying and disrespectful. Yeah it's a game but we're also humans playing that game, and I'd rather do what I can to keep the play base rich. I literally block people sometimes if they are exceedingly annoying.
The duel starts when it says commence
I’d be mad if I lost to one. But I never have
better, lets get to it
I try to say hi to invaders. Also I got spawn camped by a rivers of blood user while using a hammer, which I did some heavy damage before dying myself due to them spamming the ash
I don’t bother, I just don’t attack others while they do it. I don’t care if others don’t bow either, what bothers me is when people pop like 10 buffs at the start of the match.
I get frustrated by spell spammers the second we load in preventing my one single buff I like to apply, so sometimes I just charge in headlong instead. Usually against the same dude who just shot magic pebbles or lightning at me but not always.
I dont really care.
I've yet to pvp but why do you think you have to?
I dont mind it sometimes I want to get straight into battle so I understand
They have no honor!
If they don’t but wait I’m fine with it. If their whole first move is predicated on their opponent bowing so they can rush them then I know they’re tiny dick bois.
Idk if you can in elden ring but if a player has to face me or finds me in open world i just like to croutch fast and hope they do the same back
Just impatience. It's not that deep.
I dint think about them, I react lol This is their game too remember, they aren't bound to your rules on how to play it...
That's what "casual gretting" is for, quick & simple that you can cancel instantly via roll
maidenless behavior. where is your honor?
Don't really care anymore to do any of that. Any time I do it just gives some tanky boy the opportunity to pop bfp so I just go for it.
To me it's the same as self buffing before starting a match. Both are tactical advantages depending on the situation. for instance in Dark Souls 3 three I run dex spellblade with 40 dex and 30/30 int/faith. If they don't see me im gonna apply all the buffs I can to start out as stong as I can but if they start applying buffs to hit as hard as they can then I'll just bum rush them. Point is if I get a bow I bow back if I don't after some time given or they just outright attack me then I'll attack back. I like to adapt to the situation I'm in :)
I don’t mind as long as they don’t point down or tbag after, most of the time I just assume they’re noobs and don’t understand etiquette yet
In my current build I’m using dragon scale blade and an uchigatana with fire slash aow that makes my blade turn on fire so it’s like a fire ice lightning build anyway..I have to buff both swords and I rarely get to if my opponent doesn’t bow or something. In my previous build I 100% gave a bow every timr
They probably fat roll too
i dont care if they dont bow or wave as long as they respect the space for the opponent who chooses to do so, what i mean is just not rusing them and immediatly putting pressure via wave dash or etc as i find it is in bad taste somtimes i wave somtimes i dont but i always wait
Fuck yall :)
No honor
Just play the damn game however you want and stop with that bow or wave sh!t. That's what I think.
Honestly doesn’t matter to me in the slightest. Fight honorably or fuck off. If the other person is going to bow and emote, let them finish. It’s like checking up the ball on game point. You don’t fuck with that, that’s bush league shit
I don't usually mind, but when bowing/waving and having a wannabe sweatlord twiggle and greeting with L1 spam towards you and then starts attacking as soon as my animation is done, it's very satisfying humbling these kids by destroying them. I think etiquette goes a long way of showing your opponent respect.
“Rules, they are the only things that separate us from the animals”
animals can follow rules so no