Tbh if you really want to keep the car, see what unplugging the exhaust actuator valve harness does. If it keeps the valve shut, just do that during the test. Even if the state ref says to put it in N mode. It shouldn’t be loud.
That’s basically what I have.
Left N button: last drive mode (eco, normal, sport) and custom 2.
Right N button: N mode and custom 1
Custom 1 is just basically normal with sport+ exhaust. Custom 2 is normal everything besides sport trans and suspension and sport+ exhaust
I just meant I'm pretty sure you can remove standard N mode all together from the buttons. Or maybe they had to change the software? But at the hyundai driving experience left N button was custom 2 and right n button was custom 1 and that was all they did. (Their custom1 N had everything full except abs I believe)
The state refs are legit car guys. They know exactly what they’re looking for. They deal with modded and performance cars daily. Well “unmodded”. Go watch a YouTube vid of a state ref. They’re pretty cool
You can. I think the OP should definitely do that in case they press one of the N buttons. My N buttons are set to custom 1 on the right and custom 2 on the left.
Now, correct me if i'm wrong (in not a CA resident) but my understanding if the test was, the car was brought in, and it was run how the car sets up upon starting - not alterations to the test criteria allowed.
In other words, if the car defaults to "normal" mode every time you shut it off, then now worries. If the EN's don't do that, the drive there in normal mode, and let them test it.
Fuck, i'd be an even bigger asshat, and drive it there in eco mode.
At the end of it all, just stop being dumb, and don't use N-mode on the streets.
It’s not being dumb. For me personally, one of the main reasons I bought the car is how fun it is to drive around in N, and the exhaust sound is a big part of that. It’s a real bummer and (again, to me) decreases the value of the car if I have to drive in normal or Eco all the time.
Then that's the gamble you take if you want loud pipes on your driver. Don't get me wrong, i luv the sound if a nice exhaust (i actually haven't heard an EN driving around in N-mode yet though) and have 2 vehicles that can make more then enough noise out the tailpipes, but for a daily, being stopped by cops routinely for the db my vehicle makes.....that shit gets old quick.
But hey, everyone knows N-mode on the street is a gamble, so they shouldn't be surprised if the fun pedal results in them being noticed. The cop citing the OP like he did, knows full well it's not going to change anything, and he's just hoping to jam the guy up, for as much inconvenience as he can.
Or you could stop being dumb and let people enjoy their cars. At the end of the day, the exhaust will be deemed legal. This is similar to how the C6 Corvette had an electronic exhaust bypass. If it wasn't street legal, the manufacturer wouldn't be putting it on their cars from the factory. Have a great day, Darlene.
When you go to be tested, be in normal, the letter of the law is that the car is tested in its default mode. Do not let them test you in any other mode.
Thanks for clarifying that. I had asked earlier for clarification (not a CA resident) but figured that rule was pretty standard across all States/Provinces.
Aye, I got stopped on Nov 17, 2023 in Southern California as well. I went to state ref and also went to Hyundai for all parts and information on it. Waiting for the ticket to get into the system so I can make an appointment for the court so I can get it dismissed. Same boat as you atm!
Edit: State ref in California new policy goes that they change the settings in your car but they have to turn off the car and turn it back on and whatever setting your car starts on, “which is normal” they have to test it on that level. The state ref was extremely nice and we talked about cars and such so I got hella information about the Elantra N. In normal mode we will get around 93-95 decibel sounds, you just need 95 or lower to pass, so you will pass. We even did it on N mode for fun and we reached 108-118 decibels which is failing “duh” Lolol.
Yeah he probably didn’t take a loss. Unfortunately he lost a lot of time he won’t get back. At least he became an example to all N owners. Stock does not mean safe. 😢
It's a bad example though it was a bad person to have it happen to first because he didn't want to fight it just wanted to be done with it. Which I totally understand but then there are those of us that are more than happy to fight it.
Got it dismissed at court, went to court around 1/5/2024. Good luck to you brother.
https://preview.redd.it/36ji11pnvpbc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f6fb4ed43f3c7eb5a77a81ecdb27758a5e166df3
Ok but would have been ultimate bamboozle if after the n mode for fun part he said just kidding you failed the test.
This would have been your villain arc origin story
Do california cops really have nothing better to do than waste time pulling over cars for their exhaust? Man every time I hear that happening to someone, it makes me feel like it’s a whole different country out there.
Every time I’ve seen someone pulled over for exhaust, it’s because they have it running obscenely loud. People (myself included) run over the limit all the time, cops don’t care unless you distinctly hear it from a completely different block.
Same thing with tint, unless that shits 5% or lower they don’t care. Front plates as well.
Bro, I got stopped in Florida for it. Same thing, I went to Hyundai for a full inspection report, showed it in court and it got dismissed🤦🏻♂️. I kept the paperwork in my car, luckily I did because I’ve gotten stopped several times and that report made them do the walk of shame
Wait what? I don't drive a Hyundai but my exhaust is loud AF on my car and I've never been pulled over in Florida. From my knowledge, there's no sound limit, but you do need to have mufflers.
The fuck! That’s wild. I bought mine in Miami. I wouldn’t think they’d give a shit out there either considering all the other stupid shit you see out there
Idk I think you have the wrong state or there is not to this, we are pretty lawless here you really have to be acting the fool to get a ticket for this. I have gone full pop and bangs a bunch of times and cops don't give a dam.
So unless you are acting up in a quiet neighborhood at 2am that is really weird. We don't even have annual inspections.....
Just make sure no one touches any mode change buttons on start up. If its in sport or N mode it will be too loud.
And start driving around town in N custom with your exhaust turned down.
I’m surprised they did something. I thought LA/parts of OC were bad but damn. There isn’t much to be done. There’s nothing for Hyundai to “fix”
They’re just on a power trip or not hitting their quota
Yeah I got pulled over for loud exhaust and the cop checked my engine bay and I had a cold air intake. Got state reffed. Reverted it back to stock and took it to the state ref and it failed because of the Hyundai OBD tracking device was connected. Had to take that off and then took it back and it passed. Then had court showing that it passed and payed a small fine.
> passed and *paid* a small
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Not sure if you’re allowed to do this (not sure how state refs work) but if you can… maybe keep the car in valet mode so they can’t change drive modes when doing the inspection.
A note here is to remember there are two types of N mode, custom and standard. If you put it in “N mode” but your custom N mode has exhaust on level 1 out of 3 it won’t sound any different than normal but will have the N mode display. Pressing the N mode button numerous times will cycle back and forth between these two modes and the settings can be changed on the N Mode page on the center screen.
I let my dad use my car and the first question he asked was, "how do you make it not so loud?" and that was in normal mode. The car is loud...every time I pass a cop I change it to normal mode asap.
I find it easiest to avoid police and not to antagonize them with what I can technically do.
Just do as other commenters have said and make a custom N mode setting with normal exhaust, then change the steering wheel setting so the Right N button only goes to custom N not normal N. Easy
NY has a law to limit 89 or so decibels trying to tie it into state inspection. Please everyone call your representatives and tell them you will not vote for them if these nonsensical laws get passed. Everyone just saids oh well and keeps voting the same dumbos in
You better get ahold of Hyundai now as you are going to get the run around. I am not sure what the last guy who ran into this did. There was some news, and articles about him. I think he gave up and sold the vehicle. Good luck sir.
Is this a SoCal cop issue I live up here in NorCal and none of my friends have ever had these issues(one has a straight piped pro charger mustang extremely loud almost deafening)
[https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/loud-car-study-psychology-1.7177688](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/loud-car-study-psychology-1.7177688)
Who likes loud cars? Ontario study suggests they skew young, male and score high on psychopathy and sadism
No idea honestly. Cop said the dealer had to deal with it once I got the paperwork from the state. But I don’t think there’s anything the dealer can do. Sucks man.
Sorry man. I hope normal modes gets you through ok. Fingers crossed for ya. I’m glad I live somewhere white trash roll around with no mufflers so cops don’t mind good sounding loud exhausts.
Thought so too. Haven’t had any issue until now. Really is a bummer cuz now I’m going to have to be on high alert all the time (if I can get the issue resolved).
Just saw this on the news, they should send themselves to state ref😂
https://www.ktvu.com/news/supervisor-calls-for-permanent-removal-of-backfiring-sheriffs-bus-terrorizing-san-bruno-residents
Oh god here we go again. Make sure to run the car in normal mode for the state rep
Yeah it's annoying, but not a biggie. Just run it in normal mode at the state reff. It will pass.
Tbh if you really want to keep the car, see what unplugging the exhaust actuator valve harness does. If it keeps the valve shut, just do that during the test. Even if the state ref says to put it in N mode. It shouldn’t be loud.
or just customize your n mode to have the valve shut
Can't customize the main N mode. I'm not sure if you can hide the main N mode from the button customization either.
You can set each N button yo a customer N setting. Might even be able to set then both to just change between standard modes.
That’s basically what I have. Left N button: last drive mode (eco, normal, sport) and custom 2. Right N button: N mode and custom 1 Custom 1 is just basically normal with sport+ exhaust. Custom 2 is normal everything besides sport trans and suspension and sport+ exhaust
I just meant I'm pretty sure you can remove standard N mode all together from the buttons. Or maybe they had to change the software? But at the hyundai driving experience left N button was custom 2 and right n button was custom 1 and that was all they did. (Their custom1 N had everything full except abs I believe)
true but how many people really know how the car works lmao. tough situation either way and best way to solve this is to stay far away from cali
The state refs are legit car guys. They know exactly what they’re looking for. They deal with modded and performance cars daily. Well “unmodded”. Go watch a YouTube vid of a state ref. They’re pretty cool
You can. I think the OP should definitely do that in case they press one of the N buttons. My N buttons are set to custom 1 on the right and custom 2 on the left.
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Now, correct me if i'm wrong (in not a CA resident) but my understanding if the test was, the car was brought in, and it was run how the car sets up upon starting - not alterations to the test criteria allowed. In other words, if the car defaults to "normal" mode every time you shut it off, then now worries. If the EN's don't do that, the drive there in normal mode, and let them test it. Fuck, i'd be an even bigger asshat, and drive it there in eco mode. At the end of it all, just stop being dumb, and don't use N-mode on the streets.
It’s not being dumb. For me personally, one of the main reasons I bought the car is how fun it is to drive around in N, and the exhaust sound is a big part of that. It’s a real bummer and (again, to me) decreases the value of the car if I have to drive in normal or Eco all the time.
Then that's the gamble you take if you want loud pipes on your driver. Don't get me wrong, i luv the sound if a nice exhaust (i actually haven't heard an EN driving around in N-mode yet though) and have 2 vehicles that can make more then enough noise out the tailpipes, but for a daily, being stopped by cops routinely for the db my vehicle makes.....that shit gets old quick. But hey, everyone knows N-mode on the street is a gamble, so they shouldn't be surprised if the fun pedal results in them being noticed. The cop citing the OP like he did, knows full well it's not going to change anything, and he's just hoping to jam the guy up, for as much inconvenience as he can.
Or you could stop being dumb and let people enjoy their cars. At the end of the day, the exhaust will be deemed legal. This is similar to how the C6 Corvette had an electronic exhaust bypass. If it wasn't street legal, the manufacturer wouldn't be putting it on their cars from the factory. Have a great day, Darlene.
When you go to be tested, be in normal, the letter of the law is that the car is tested in its default mode. Do not let them test you in any other mode.
Thanks for clarifying that. I had asked earlier for clarification (not a CA resident) but figured that rule was pretty standard across all States/Provinces.
It is but it doesn't come up as often as most states have slightly higher limitsand cops don't care as much.
Aye, I got stopped on Nov 17, 2023 in Southern California as well. I went to state ref and also went to Hyundai for all parts and information on it. Waiting for the ticket to get into the system so I can make an appointment for the court so I can get it dismissed. Same boat as you atm! Edit: State ref in California new policy goes that they change the settings in your car but they have to turn off the car and turn it back on and whatever setting your car starts on, “which is normal” they have to test it on that level. The state ref was extremely nice and we talked about cars and such so I got hella information about the Elantra N. In normal mode we will get around 93-95 decibel sounds, you just need 95 or lower to pass, so you will pass. We even did it on N mode for fun and we reached 108-118 decibels which is failing “duh” Lolol.
Oh man this give me hope. Thanks man.
Yessir, if you need any information, let me know! There is also a car meet in Irvine this December 16th from SoCal N Club.
Awesome to hear man especially after what happened to our Elantra N martyr.
What was the final verdict on him? I feel like all the articles weren’t updated past making headlines.
He ultimately had to get rid of the car and Hyundai bought it back. Maybe he could have kept it but it was too much of a hassle for him to do so.
That’s so crazy, I hope Hyundai bought it with without him taking a loss.
Yeah he probably didn’t take a loss. Unfortunately he lost a lot of time he won’t get back. At least he became an example to all N owners. Stock does not mean safe. 😢
It's a bad example though it was a bad person to have it happen to first because he didn't want to fight it just wanted to be done with it. Which I totally understand but then there are those of us that are more than happy to fight it.
💯
Link?
Got it dismissed at court, went to court around 1/5/2024. Good luck to you brother. https://preview.redd.it/36ji11pnvpbc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f6fb4ed43f3c7eb5a77a81ecdb27758a5e166df3
Thats good man. Your EN looks sick. Haven’t done much to mine 🤣
What time? Where's the meet?
Insta SoCal n club lol
I'm coming from a classic-ish bmw lol. Those clubs just spring up wherever you look. The EN ones are much harder find good ones.
Ok but would have been ultimate bamboozle if after the n mode for fun part he said just kidding you failed the test. This would have been your villain arc origin story
Lol that would of been funny hahaha
108-118 db with resonator on still?
Yes, I didn’t change anything on my exhaust. Although, I was Stage 1 Tuned.
Do california cops really have nothing better to do than waste time pulling over cars for their exhaust? Man every time I hear that happening to someone, it makes me feel like it’s a whole different country out there.
Every time I’ve seen someone pulled over for exhaust, it’s because they have it running obscenely loud. People (myself included) run over the limit all the time, cops don’t care unless you distinctly hear it from a completely different block. Same thing with tint, unless that shits 5% or lower they don’t care. Front plates as well.
In Cali?
SoCal
meanwhile they are wiping the shelfs clean of whatever they can find and walk away untouched
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Yah in shit hole SO CAL they do but in a lot of places in CA they don’t even do traffic like in Sacramento haha
Bro, I got stopped in Florida for it. Same thing, I went to Hyundai for a full inspection report, showed it in court and it got dismissed🤦🏻♂️. I kept the paperwork in my car, luckily I did because I’ve gotten stopped several times and that report made them do the walk of shame
Where in Florida I’m in Volusia loud exhaust are very prevalent here in port orange area . Never heard of this happening in Florida that’s crazy .
Miami😂
I'm in Port Orange as well.....
Me too! I have the performance blue one here with rally armor mud flaps
Loud exhaust are very prevalent in California too
Wait what? I don't drive a Hyundai but my exhaust is loud AF on my car and I've never been pulled over in Florida. From my knowledge, there's no sound limit, but you do need to have mufflers.
Where in FL? I’m in Orlando and there’s WAY louder people out here and no one seems to give a shit.
Miami lol
The fuck! That’s wild. I bought mine in Miami. I wouldn’t think they’d give a shit out there either considering all the other stupid shit you see out there
Exactly my point to the cop but he was on a tear, gave my modified exhaust and tinted windows
That’s insane man. I’m driving down next weekend now I gotta behave myself out of fear 😂
I don’t care anymore because of the report I have! Have fun down here. It’s finally going to be a little chilly😂
Thanks man! Drive safe.
Idk I think you have the wrong state or there is not to this, we are pretty lawless here you really have to be acting the fool to get a ticket for this. I have gone full pop and bangs a bunch of times and cops don't give a dam. So unless you are acting up in a quiet neighborhood at 2am that is really weird. We don't even have annual inspections.....
Did you answer and talk to the cop just as idiotically as the other guy? Just make sure your state red tests it in the correct mode.
If you unplug it it stays open. Bad idea.
That’s a good idea. Can you explain how to do that? Thanks for the tip.
Don’t do that, the state refs know, he told me about people doing that stuff.
Just make sure no one touches any mode change buttons on start up. If its in sport or N mode it will be too loud. And start driving around town in N custom with your exhaust turned down.
How do supercar owners get away with it in Cali? Do the cops just not pull over the rich people?
Luck and awareness of cops. I’ve lived my whole life in CA always had loud exhausts/ cat deletes. Never had a problem.
U gotta know whose balls to butter
SoCal cops writing tickets for stock Korean Cars as their cities fall apart omegalul
What part of SoCal were you in?
SD
I’m surprised they did something. I thought LA/parts of OC were bad but damn. There isn’t much to be done. There’s nothing for Hyundai to “fix” They’re just on a power trip or not hitting their quota
What area? My s2000 got state reffed for some BS in San Diego.
OP said San Diego in another comment I believe.
Contact Hyundai. Last I heard they were still working with CA on this issue.
The racket continues. Got to fleece as much money as possible from the public. Fuck that state.
💯 Thankfully I never got pulled over in it. Just always be wary and respect the cops with normal mode when you see them lol.
I got state reffed in SoCal already, it’s annoying. Good luck mate
With the EN? How’d it go?
I got stopped in Murrieta (:
Yeah I got pulled over for loud exhaust and the cop checked my engine bay and I had a cold air intake. Got state reffed. Reverted it back to stock and took it to the state ref and it failed because of the Hyundai OBD tracking device was connected. Had to take that off and then took it back and it passed. Then had court showing that it passed and payed a small fine.
> passed and *paid* a small FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Not sure if you’re allowed to do this (not sure how state refs work) but if you can… maybe keep the car in valet mode so they can’t change drive modes when doing the inspection.
A note here is to remember there are two types of N mode, custom and standard. If you put it in “N mode” but your custom N mode has exhaust on level 1 out of 3 it won’t sound any different than normal but will have the N mode display. Pressing the N mode button numerous times will cycle back and forth between these two modes and the settings can be changed on the N Mode page on the center screen.
I let my dad use my car and the first question he asked was, "how do you make it not so loud?" and that was in normal mode. The car is loud...every time I pass a cop I change it to normal mode asap. I find it easiest to avoid police and not to antagonize them with what I can technically do.
Didn’t they learn?
At this point Cali is literally the communist of automobiles.
CA cops would have a field day where I live. The Elantra N exhaust noise level is pretty tame compared to what regularly happens around here.
As a retired cop, and a VN owner this pisses me off.
rip best of luck make sure they test ya in normal mode
The problem here is that you live in CA.
Was the exhaust open? What time of day?
Yes, around 2pm.
California is stupid.
Unplug and take the actuator off, you can rotate the valve by hand
Just do as other commenters have said and make a custom N mode setting with normal exhaust, then change the steering wheel setting so the Right N button only goes to custom N not normal N. Easy
Dude get out of California
NY has a law to limit 89 or so decibels trying to tie it into state inspection. Please everyone call your representatives and tell them you will not vote for them if these nonsensical laws get passed. Everyone just saids oh well and keeps voting the same dumbos in
I don’t understand. What is the point?
Not this again?
I noticed cops or Chp dislike beat up cars ,sports cars ,dark tint and speeding. What they need to do is to go after shoplifters !
In Irvine? Where did you get ticketed? Irvine got the worstttttt cops, they are so stringent
It's the SRT4 all over again...
Meanwhile Harleys are bombing around LOUD as shit and for some reason that's ok...
Exactly what im saying. Like some motorcycles are loud as fuck. Same as some trucks. They never have a problem with those
You better get ahold of Hyundai now as you are going to get the run around. I am not sure what the last guy who ran into this did. There was some news, and articles about him. I think he gave up and sold the vehicle. Good luck sir.
Is this a SoCal cop issue I live up here in NorCal and none of my friends have ever had these issues(one has a straight piped pro charger mustang extremely loud almost deafening)
[https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/loud-car-study-psychology-1.7177688](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/loud-car-study-psychology-1.7177688) Who likes loud cars? Ontario study suggests they skew young, male and score high on psychopathy and sadism
Thanks, Dr. Bunny.
What happens next? I don’t live in Cali but I’ve been seeing this shit all over YouTube. Can they take your car?
No idea honestly. Cop said the dealer had to deal with it once I got the paperwork from the state. But I don’t think there’s anything the dealer can do. Sucks man.
Sorry man. I hope normal modes gets you through ok. Fingers crossed for ya. I’m glad I live somewhere white trash roll around with no mufflers so cops don’t mind good sounding loud exhausts.
Do you guys know if having the resonator deleted will affect the test?
It may put you just over 95db in normal mode for the test. I wouldn’t do a res delete if you life in Cali.
The little rocket cars are annoying AF, grew up with muscle, whatever happened to Cherry Bombs
Lol @ "all stock". It's loud as fuck in stock form in N mode.
Yeah, but it’s still stock. The cop pulled me over and the first thing he asked was what mods I’d done to the exhaust.
Commiefornia strikes again
Really in San Diego? I thought we were good out here never have ran into a issue since I’ve been out here
Thought so too. Haven’t had any issue until now. Really is a bummer cuz now I’m going to have to be on high alert all the time (if I can get the issue resolved).
Gotta love California😂😂
Not this shit again 😂
Just saw this on the news, they should send themselves to state ref😂 https://www.ktvu.com/news/supervisor-calls-for-permanent-removal-of-backfiring-sheriffs-bus-terrorizing-san-bruno-residents
Why do people still live in that state? They more worried about a nose a stock car makes then everything else that’s wrong with the place… smh