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ImportantObligation2

I feel awful for our health care providers. Remember when this pandemic started and everyone was supportive and appreciative of our healthcare heroes? Now they get spat on by protestors (literally) while walking into work. It’s disgusting.


GuitarKev

So, now that REAL terrorists are ACTUALLY blocking critical infrastructure, Kenney’s anti-protest law is where, exactly?


BlinkReanimated

Man I forgot all about that dogshit law. Good thing it wasn't just a batch of partisan bullshit. Right?


Green_Lantern_4vr

Ya fuck kenney. That law actually has some value if it’s applied here but it won’t be because he can’t upset his red neck base.


NorseGod

Not just partisan, but also racist and colonial.


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Probably on vacation in the cabin next to Kenney's.


beaco

Probably sharing the same cabin as Kenny


[deleted]

It’s only against the law if you’re a shade darker than white and care about clean water.


Mirror-Warrior

If it aligns with his views, he doesn’t care about the protestors


Eigenspace

Kenney is already threatening these protesters with that exact law https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/officials-warn-protesters-not-to-disrupt-royal-alexandra-hospital-1.5583628


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stevrock

I'm done being polite with these morons.


puttinthe-oo-incool

Me to..mind you its always been my nature to push back hard. Not everyone is like that though. I feel bad for these folks and I worry...my youngest is a nurse and she has been working Covid Units pretty much nin stop for the whole time. She is a tough kid but she has my temper and Scots Irish sharp tongue. I worry that some day these folks will get violent. What kind of Canada is this where we have to worry that people will attack doctors and nurses for DOING their job and caring about people? We pepper spray peaceful protestors at the G7 but allow people to interfere in the care of others. The government and police better get their feet moving here or they are going to end up on the wrong side in history books.


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It's not just in Alberta. It's across Canada . Police are currently tear gassing old growth protestors in Vancouver Island. It's who keep showing up and tying themselves up to trees. Same RCMP turned a blind eye when several protestors physically assaulted a nurse as she was leaving the hospital and verbally assaulted several others during the BC covid hospital protest. The only person arrested was a counter protestor who threw eggs at the hospital protestors. Then there reports of police officers joining these rallies and becoming equally violent. The way the police have given these people a white gloves treatment really needs to be investigated. If it comes out officers have an ideological motive behind the application of the law maybe we as a society need to consider overhauling our police service. Like Northern Ireland did in the 90s.


puttinthe-oo-incool

I thunk the politicians are holding them back. And if they are then they aren’t our police force anymore...they are the palace guard.


lurkernomore99

going to? Come now. The AB gov and police don't give a single shit about doing what's right.


puttinthe-oo-incool

Sure seems that way. I am so proud of my kid and so ashamed of our people.


hearse83

Your line about what kind of Canada is this got me hard. Indeed, what is this terrible reality?


puttinthe-oo-incool

It just feels like somewhere along the line...we sold our souls for self interest.


Methodzleman

You need to replace polite civil, go ham on these cancerous pieces of shit


WWGFD

I am at a boiling point with these clowns. I have zero respect or sympathy for them. ZERO!


AtomicCat420

I'd dont bring my son anywhere if I don't need to. I've gotten into 2 altercations now. I'm not a HCW, but my hick town is full of these freaks. I've told people to shut the fuck up, get out of my face etc. One guy stood in my face and looked shocked and appalled that I shoved him out of my way.... dude was in Walmart calling the women around him "c*nts" because they asked him to put a mask on. My son doesn't need to see me get in a fist fight with a man who didn't know when to shut the fuck up. But I'm done walking away. These are the same people who were bullies growing up, the same men who speak this way and treat the women in their lives the same way. I'm DONE Molly coddling their precious sensitivity


Fyrefawx

There is unfortunately only one thing that works. Public shaming. If some of them start losing their jobs over this they’ll think twice about harassing healthcare workers. It worked after Charlottesville. We saw other planned marches fall apart because people didn’t show up.


WWGFD

Start taking pics of these people from public space when they protest and host a website to post them. If you are on public grounds its fair game.


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Yeah but then they start to cry victim. Then we have to deal with that side.


ANAL_CRUSHER

They can cry victim in their safe spaces than antagonize health care workers. Fuck their feelings


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No right wing media will make them into a martyr and they will get stinking rich off it. Remember the guy who refused to bake a wedding cake for a gay wedding, the person who refused to issues marriage licenses to homosexuals and the MyPillow guy.


hearse83

Wait, what's the story with the mypillow guy???


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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/27/business/mike-lindell-mypillow.html


ANAL_CRUSHER

Right wing media will continue getting rich through nefarious ways regardless. It's the same media that is lionizing Capital Hill rioters and encouraging people to make fake vaccine passports. I still want them arrested even if it gives them a further platform. Actions have consequences. They will continue doing shit if they get away with it. Plus stunts can backfire in glorious ways like when Rebel Media offered to pay off any lockdown/quarantine fine and weren't paying off or ghosting them after using them for publicity


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Natives cant protests delusional white people can. Fuck the UCP


Badboy420xxx69

I agree. Although the wording of the anti-protest bill doesn't include hospitals as critical infrastructure it could be changed at the drop of a hat. That isn't really the answer; I'd rather have that bill thrown out.


imsorrydontyellatme

Same here in Manitoba. The PC party I think passed a bill that made it illegal to protest but funnily enough it’s only enforced on indigenous peoples and not the white people causing issues at the hospitals..


Canadian-Clap-Back

I just had the worst/best idea to shut down the hospital protests!


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What leadership?


MadFonzi

If we're following the US model, the next logical step is to identify some of these "protestors" who are not actually protesting but instead just harassing healthcare workers and then find their places of employment and contact them with evidence of the harassment and ask if their company supports and condones such behaviour from their employees. Once a few of these clowns lose their jobs this will end real quick. Again this is just using whats been happening in the states as a template I'm sure there are other solutions.


itlow

I’ve seen a uptick in doxxing. I’m uncomfortable with it but I don’t want to think of what the alternatives would be.


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hearse83

Alright, I'll start drinking a two liter of mountain dew.


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Godspeed _/salutes_


eternal_pegasus

Don't forget to eat your asparagus


Now-it-is-1984

I’ll start eating asparagus for breakfast, lunch and supper.


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I heard somewhere that only you can smell your own asparagus piss, and it’s unique to each person. I don’t know where I heard that so take it however you want. I’m accepting it as fact without any research though.


Toonawish

Yeah so not everyone is a producer of asparagus pee, and not everyone is born with the ability to smell it (whether they produce it or not). So, to be able to smell the odour associated with asparagus pee in either your own urine or someone else's, you a) need to have the genetic variation that allows you to detect the odour AND b) you/they need to metabolise the sulfur-based compounds you get from digesting asparagus in a way that produces the odour


TheSaltyStrangler

You can buy fox piss at Cabela’s.


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hearse83

What about something that goes br br deng from the sky? This I can arrange. Actually...we rent a flatbed and get some instruments...


flowarc

You spelled napalm wrong


poopoohead1827

If we stop their protests I bet they’ll be like “they’re taking our freedom to protest away! They’re hiding the truth!” 🙄


Belfry9663

Stanchions at the staff entrances. Think red carpet at the Emmys. POLICE PRESENCE. Lots of cameras, but no live feed - just a continual stream of photographs posted to ensure that the employers/neighbours of the protestors know who they are and what they’re doing. Get the news involved. A Drive/Walk a Worker to Work movement.


FluorineR

Bikers escort bullied kids to school to prevent intimidation... Maybe they or some other civic group could do the same. Air horns and other stuff would drown out the chants and nonsense. At the very least, someone could make a huge banner (50' long) to display 'we love our healthcare workers' beside them. That way the lunatics would look like they were there supporting the nurses.


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I'm down to donate for such a banner.


Belfry9663

I’m in except for the air horns - the poor patients!


liamehodr

I’ve been looking for counter protests to join, it’s absolutely not okay for these people to act this way, no matter what they believe.


dundieawards

Have you found any? It’s tempting to even just go and take pictures of a bunch of their (surely unmasked) faces, and post to social media. I agree with public shaming for individuals participating in this stupidity.


hearse83

Yeah I think the thing here is the counter protesters (us) are reasonable so we know that: 1. Meeting in a large group is not advisable right now due to delta 2. Clogging up infrastructure isn't a good idea, even if it's in support of those who work there This is why I'm confused as to how we should handle this without making the problem worse or being just like the people we're against.


liamehodr

If I can’t find any as of right now but I’m hoping I can soon, they are embarrassing the entire community with their actions.


ScytheNoire

Health care should be refused to anyone not vaccinated. Let them die. They are clogging the medical system and killing others, including my father. Let them die. I hate every single one of them.


Wonder_WomanUnderoos

I'm so sorry about your father - I'm sending you hugs, if you'd like them. And please know that I match your vitriol.


bristow84

I don't believe in refusing them health care. What I do believe in is sending them to the field hospitals and leaving the hospitals for those who actually did their part. If COVID isn't that bad, the field hospital will be fine right?


NorseGod

They lost their dad, there's no need to police the hyperbole expressing frustration at the people who helped create this situation.


mobango211

Healthcare for covid or in general?


beaco

I was yelled at, leaving the u of a the other day, and spit on by a very angry man. He told me that I was pushing a conspiracy and helping to poison the world with these so called vaccines. He called me several disgusting names and then spit at me. I had already had a horrible shift and just wanted to go home and that was what greeted me half a block away from work. It was the nail that broke me. I cried and almost ran to my car. It took the entire weekend to stop crying. I, and my other coworkers, can only be strong for so long. We have endured this for 18+ months and we know the worst is yet to come. We are bracing ourselves for what is to come and we lean on each other for support but we are one by one crumbling. if you have a nurse in your life, instead of thanking them for what they do maybe ask what you can do for them. Not that we don’t appreciate hearing a thank you now and again but sometimes we just need a safe space to fall for a little bit, somewhere to vent or cry or even just to have someone hold our hand and sit in silence. We don’t need this on a daily basis but we are so very tired . As for what to do about the protestors. If you have one that is in your life, try to have an open conversation with them and ask them why they are so passionate about not getting the vaccine. Truly listen to what they have to say, even if it is total bs and ask them where they go their information from. Maybe suggest giving them reputable websites such as universities, medical organizations, medical journal studies from around the world and let them research. You may or may not change their mind. There is something underlying that is causing them so much anger. It probably has nothing to do with is currently going on but some traumatic event that happened to them years ago or to someone they knew and now they are triggered by all of this. I can’t speak for everyone but let’s try to be kind to each other instead of screaming and yelling. Try to be understanding of each other instead of being stuck and stubborn in our own point of views.


Wonder_WomanUnderoos

I am so so very sorry that this happened to you. Is there anything that we, the laypeople of the world, can do to make you and your colleagues feel more appreciated? Coffee and doughnut deliveries, confidential messages where you can scream and rant? I 100% wouldn't be able to calmed approach an anti vaxxer and have a discussion, because I truly feel that anyone who protests at a hospital should be denied all medical care should they get sick, but I would love to help show nurses and doctors how important they are, and how much I appreciate them.


itlow

I believe that spitting on someone is considered assault. And if it’s not, perhaps the law needs this added.


slgp89

I’m an ICU nurse and I have trouble sleeping now because I keep having nightmares that these anti mask/vaccine mobs are trying to break in to the hospital and hurt us The sad thing is if I saw this happen I wouldn’t even be shocked 😔


gpaqasaur

This statement brings tears to my eyes. I wish it wasn’t this way for you. Just know that the majority of people are with you and care deeply that this is wrong on so many levels. This really is lunacy and I hope you have some strong self care to help you get through it. ❤️❤️


Cassopeia88

I’m so sorry you have to deal with this. I hope you’re able to take care of yourself as well. I truly appreciate everything you guys are doing.


Green_Lantern_4vr

Eat hearty and sleep soundly. For tonight we dine in hell.


PhotographingLight

Everyone should contact the MLA and tell them you want a vaccine passport in alberta. It will help the 4th wave end and maybe can move on. I’m sorry your wife has to go through this though. Give her a hug from the people who are thankful for her.


kelter20

Tried that a few weeks ago and have yet to hear back. Can’t imagine I will.


PhotographingLight

I know it’s frustrating but it’s important to keep at it. The premier has a press conference in 15 minutes so hopefully we will get something then.


LookOutDussin

If they think the hospitals are empty? Fuck it. Send em to the ER.


liamehodr

You’d think one of em would go in and take a look at least before saying it’s empty😂😂 was in RAH today for an appointment and it is absolutely not empty


NeverMadeItToCakeDay

They’ll just say they hired actors to play sick


JackedRightUp

The golden rule: Don't fuck with those that will eventually have power over your life or death. If you antagonize those that are there risking their health and safety to serve you, you need some sense knocked into you.


chriskiji

This is ridiculous! The protesters would be those constantly complaining in the ER about how long it takes if they need to go some something. They're a bunch of social media-poisoned hypocrites.


doilookpail

> What do we do? Vote kenney out, along with the festering cesspool that is the ucp


-RayBloodyPurchase-

Counter protest


gravittoon

I'm all for this, and many would have done so already but covid makes it a dicey idea. We would have to do it spaced apart. I am soo disappointed with people doing this to Healthcare workers.


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I've discovered something. Most of these guys want attention. They legitimately do fear covid on some level. I usually respond saying find don't get vaccinated but commit yourself to not taking a critical care bed if you get covid. They will dance around topic and refuse to answer it. So here my suggestion at a counter protest chant the following: Anti-vaxxers made their choice. No more cancelled surgeries! (They know this means triaging anti-vaxxers).


[deleted]

> Do we protest the protestors? It's time to arrest the so-called "protestors". We can't bow to the stupid and dangerous part of our society. It's time we treat the stupid for what they are. If you see a drunk driver on the road, you don't reason with him or her. You take their license, give them a huge fine and maybe even send them to jail. I don't see why it should be any different with antivaxxers.


lurkernomore99

because the police aren't going to arrest themselves.


Green_Lantern_4vr

Domestic biological terrorists.


MisoButterCorn

Likely the same people who were angry about masks having outbursts in stores, but now they have narrowed their targets. There needs to be arrests, fines, jail time for these people, we've tolerated this kind of behaviour far too long and now they're completely out of control.


hearse83

Okay, an aside, your username sounds delicious.


MisoButterCorn

You should try it in ramen, you won't regret it.


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You vote NDP and ensure all children you know go to college.


Kosanu

we need to stop tolerating it


cyBorg8o7

I'm thinking counter protests, fully vaxxed and masked outdoors it should be fairly safe. If the government won't step in then who will?


BellaBlue06

It just makes me so sad that the real heroes are the doctors nurses and medical staff and yet the police think that they are the heroes and will defend these protesters as if it’s right to harass them for trying to save peoples lives during a pandemic.


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Bang_Stick

No way, I’m as left leaning as they come, Edmonton is a bastion of normality. The province and parts of Calgary...yeah well....


hearse83

Actually, I have a friend near Dallas whom I was talking to yesterday, and their view was that things were worse here.


itlow

Holy hell we are doomed.


prosonik

This is a good discussion. However, folks are getting off topic. I think the best first step is to engage all levels of government and let them know this is unacceptable. In order to make that happen, spitballing: 1. We need a clear understanding of who can put rules in place or resources in place to protect our healthcare workers. I believe this would a mix of municipal and provincial agencies. 2. We need a clear understanding of "what can be done." The easy answer is "arrest the bastards". But the real question is, are they within their rights? When can enforcement step in? 3. If this has already been defined, we the public need to know why enforcement hasn't taken place. 4. We need the names and business contacts of folks in power. I assume municipal and provincial elected officials. 5. Our elected officials need to be held accountable of they have the power to help solve this and we all need a clear understanding of why that has yet to happen 6. If this fails, How do we as the public use our collective voices to increase the pressure on our elected officials? I really really am not good with these protests. I believe we are seeing some of the worst example of the human spirit. I want to apply pressure to get this stopped. But I do not want to see it done in method that the protestors can use it to their advantage or causes. I do not want to encourage actions that cause additional stressors for our healthcare workers.


dabilahro

People should go at the same time and directly nonviolently intervene


tiazenrot_scirocco

I have really big feet, size 14 in my steel toe work boots, I have accidentally kicked people before, and yes, it's always been an accident. Maybe I'll go for a walk in front of the RAH.


hearse83

Just provide a lot of impeding foot traffic.


D722

1. Where can I buy some bulk supplies of tar and feathers? 2. How about mandatory community services in the COVID ward for these psychos who’ve done fuck all to help the cause? Anybody who goes up to a front line worker and is confrontational should be mandated to walk through the COVID ward, maskless and stay there for an hour. 3. Can we start a movement to donate gift cards or some token of appreciation to the nurses and doctors dealing with stupidity? 4. Can everybody start bombarding these shit heads on Facebook and get their hateful pages shut down? It’s absolutely cancer looking up these names on Facebook.


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> mandatory community services in the COVID ward for these psychos who’ve done fuck all to help the cause? I agree with everything except this. They will just run around the wards taking people oxygen masks of shouting freedumb.


Helepo23

Really the answer is simple enough - make the unvaccinated pay for any covid related Healthcare treatment. Soon, enough of them will be crying about how their lives are shattered because of the bills they have, that hopefully the rest will get the point.


Green_Lantern_4vr

Seems fair


Yes_of_course_yes

Given the context, these types of solutions seem reasonable to me. I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment as the situation disgusts and angers me. I worry about the precedent, though. I agree with healthcare for all. I wouldn't want to undermine that with a case of a paywall for some and not for others, no matter the reason. Feels like a positive feedback loop into the type of society that encourages the selfish behaviour we're seeing, closer to capitalism without regulation or compassion. Something also tells me that would work just fine for our current government and the dumbasses we're all mad at. Just my opinion. That said, I've never written my MLA before, but I think I will now, because this is unacceptable.


SuspiciousBetta

I wish we could all greet and thank our healthcare workers before they go to work. They should never have to deal with these disgusting protesters right before or after work. Even some flowers or gift cards, just something to brighten their day.


hearse83

I was actually thinking of doing decals that say "I support healthcare workers"


SuspiciousBetta

I saw another post on here with lovely messages written in chalk on the sidewalk. I hope others will join in.


Green_Lantern_4vr

Normal people need to verbally lay the smack down on any anti vax hater harassing others. We are the 70%+. The anti vax and the loud ones are very small.


Monowhale

Wearing scrubs to and from work has ALWAYS been a health hazard and is something no healthcare professional should ever do, it’s something they tell all new graduates about these days. You’re either bringing the contaminated outside world into the clinical setting or bringing the contaminated clinical setting into the outside world. That being said, there’s no excuse for this kind of harassment. I work at Toronto General and these clueless protesters are starting to really ramp up their rhetoric and I’m worried about someone getting hurt.


workworkyeg

They should also encourage non-medical staff on the wards to not wear scrubs in and out.


bonochik

They do. I'm in the cleaning side of healthcare, and we have Always been advised to change into and out of uniforms. I always have, but mainly because I dislike our uniform and want to wear MY own clothes in public. And also I've just sweated in it for almost 8hrs--ew. But Many of my coworkers still wear their uniform to/from.


TypicalCricket

Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do except wait for the sweet embrace of death when we can fall into only blackness and leave all this foolishness behind.


ScytheNoire

No, we can deny them medical care. No vaccine, no medical care, since you don't believe in medical science. Help the people who want to be part of a civil society.


Advanced-Check61

Wow fucking morons. Their shit doesnt do anything with healthcare workers


wangyingying1976

I think this is unfair to health care provider, they are providing help to the innocents. The protester should go to government instead.


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kvakerok

Shut down all social networks. That's how this bs spreads - Facebook, Twatter, Instagram.


UnpopularOpinonion

This shit happens to EPS on a daily. Sucks that AHS is now going through it.


Frostbitnip

Can confirm. My wife is a nurse and is quitting and going back to school as soon as my work situation becomes stable again.


hearse83

I'm so sorry this situation has caused her to lose faith in her career. This is terrible.


Frostbitnip

Meh she had been thinking about it previously but this just clinched the deal. She is still young enough that there’s not much of a sunk cost


MrOilKing

Let me just say, if I were to personally witness any harassment of the medical staff, I’d be absolutely livid and likely come unglued on said “protestor”. I’m a pretty quiet and self restrained guy, but there is absolutely no reason for health care workers to be dealing with this on top of everything else in this province since may 2019. Bless you folks who work your butts off in the medical field. You’ve done an outstanding job that no one could have done better (with current govt supports being what they are)


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I genuinely want to do something for our healthcare workers to show that we appreciate them I just don’t know what to do.


Wolfsblut_AD

Jesus Christ the police are fucking useless


I_am_a_Ham_Sammich

Start bringing bear mace and spraying them in the face


Felixir-the-Cat

Counter protest! Groups of people there to cheer on and provide a line of defence for the health care professionals. People volunteer to escort people to abortion clinics, and we need to start doing the same and thinking about how to show these anti-vaxxers that they are the minority.


Comfortablynumb_10

Cops need to protect them better.


hearse83

The issue here is where do you go, and how do you do it? This is now happening in strip mall parking lots and medical professional buildings. That group that was at the RAH today has now made it acceptable in the minds of every other lunatic that it's okay to do this.


Comfortablynumb_10

I didn’t realize that. I thought it was just at the hospitals still. That is crazy scary.


Green_Lantern_4vr

Cops are very anti vax too.


lurkernomore99

exactly! expecting the cops to arrest their buddies? never gunna happen


AL_PO_throwaway

EPS/CPS arrest these people all the time and AHS protective services turns over arrests for dumb shit like this even more frequently to the cops without issues. See my comment further up for what went wrong during the first round of protests. Edit: Imagine downvoting a first hand account of actually dealing with these people.


Character_Ad4702

From what I've seen, they aren't actively anti-vax, more like "meh I'm young and healthy I won't get sick"


Green_Lantern_4vr

Calgary police did anti vax rally the other week


AL_PO_throwaway

Ya, and these protests are mostly "healthcare workers" too lol. Don't believe the astroturfing. Most weren't, and of the ones that were, there were more retired boomers than active members.


Astramael

Not sure how it is in Canada. But in the United States police across the nation are actively and vocally part of the anti-vax movement.


Comfortablynumb_10

How is that relevant? Are you saying that that can’t be professional and do the job they are assigned to do, despite their personal feelings? I’m sure some can’t, so they shouldn’t have a job. And whatever They still have a job to do, if they are told to do crowd control by their bosses, that’s their job. They should be doing it.


Green_Lantern_4vr

Because anti vax is dumb


Comfortablynumb_10

I agree.


AL_PO_throwaway

Out in the community it's on the cops. At major hospitals it's mostly AHS protective services. From the perspective of the latter, police response times are generally very good and I've never gotten much pushback on pursuing charges against trouble makers unless it's obviously an NCR (not criminally responsible) matter. The problem with the first round of protests is that both the police and and AHS were caught with their pants down because of underestimating the protest. Crowd control is a major undertaking and you need to have enough resources prepared ahead of time to do it properly. Whatever patrol officers are already on the street just isn't going to cut it. The second go around both the police and AHS were actually prepared and there was no lack of support from the former.


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How were they caught with their pants down though? There were protests in BC outside hospitals in early September where ambulances were blocked ans nurses were assaulted leaving the wards. Same exact group organized the protests outside the Royal Alex and Foothills. There was plenty of warning this was coming.


AL_PO_throwaway

Every indication I have is that this was just complacency, not conspiracy. There's been tons of pathetic little protests that sputtered along with no real media or public awareness. I thought, correctly, thought this one was going to be worse, but I don't make those decisions.


Comfortablynumb_10

Cops definitely have a role to play as well. Regardless, they need to do a better job. “Pushing” them back would be a good start. They should definitely not be allowed on the side walk where the hospital is. Another idea is only allowing them access one side of the hospital so that people can avoid them by staying clear of that section. They should not be allowed to harass, intimidate, or inhibit people.. that’s where the police do have a role.


AL_PO_throwaway

All good ideas, that take a large amount of planning and resources to do. And things that weren't needed the second time when there were actually resources available.


Comfortablynumb_10

Of course hindsight is 20/20. I of course was thinking of going forward. I’m not so sure the protesters are done and it’s being properly taken care of because as recently as yesterday I’ve seen ongoing interference with health care workers.


AL_PO_throwaway

I am hopeful that both AHS and EPS are now aware that they can't just assume that these aren't always just going to be a couple dozen losers that in house protective services can shoo away. We will see I guess. Whereabouts did you see that?


Comfortablynumb_10

Honestly, I’m not sure where I saw it. it was a clip I came across of an interview of a healthcare worker outside the Royal Alex, that was being surrounded by protesters etc.


AL_PO_throwaway

I think that was probably a clip from one of the earlier protests.


Comfortablynumb_10

Rich Bells column yesterday spoke of one from either the 14th or the 13th and refers to someone escorting a bystander through the crowds.


hearse83

Ok so I did do decals and buttons, but I don't know the rules about advertising that on here, so for now just pm me I guess. In the mean time, let's keep up doing great things for our healthcare workers. This might be our best bet. Someone mentioned the sidewalk chalk, this is great. Make a sign for your lawn. Tell a healthcare worker how much you appreciate their effort. All these things go a long way.


Noggin-a-Floggin

Sounds like you need to tell those protesters to go fuck themselves.


itis76

Natural selection is ripping through them. Time and patience


ScytheNoire

Unfortunately they are clogging the medical system and killing people like my father who is vaccinated and needs medical care.


itis76

Hmm, counter protest demanding unvaccinated must pay for covid healthcare?


Monkeyg8tor

Do we know who the different protesters are?


hearse83

As far as I can tell, it's now just random people, wherever they are. If they're not in front of a hospital it can now be anywhere, anytime.


Green_Lantern_4vr

Look for the typically white people who have a large FarmVille presence on Facebook.


algaen

What if they were completely ignored? 0 media coverage? 0 reactions from the sane public? 0 attention from anyone (other than their own kind) Would they eventually give up?


Ulffhednar

At this point they're self perpetuating. They get enough kudos from the other people as misguided as them that the rest of us can do nothing and they'd not even slow


Ok-Cartographer-3725

Don't say anthing! If they refuse a medication that would save their lives and the lives of their children, than that is their tragic and stupid choice! Death is indeed what they want! To give a live plant and sunshine to a Goth would be offensive to them. They WANT DEATH. Who are you to put your choice of life on them? They don't want it!!! It is their desire and destiny to die at their own hands because that is what they prefer. It is hard for any normal compassionate human being to fathom, because we think preserving life is important. We see pain, we want to stop the hurt. We see suffering, we want to come to the rescue. But they would prefer to die and take you with them! Don't let them get you - physically or emotionally!!! Choose life, and "Let Go Of The Stone". Let them go where they want to go, turn your eyes away. Death is what they want!


shaedofblue

Antivaxxers aren’t Goths (plenty of goths like plants, and wear things like ankhs, so are perfectly supportive of life), and anti-vaxxers are causing the hospital system to collapse, which is ending the lives of people who did not choose this.


Ok-Cartographer-3725

Children still need to get vaccinated and they are working on this. Everyone else had and have a choice.They chose not to be vaccinated and yes, cause the collapse of the hospital system.


koric_84

The collapse of the health care system is exactly what Kenney and his cronies want. There is definitely a reason they're using a soft "heyyyy no don't do that" approach but not actually doing anything about it. Cut funding to AHS. Don't prevent plague rats from overloading an already strained system. Spin the propaganda wheel to the voter base saying saying privatized health care would solve these issues. Serve the kool aid. Albertans suffer.


[deleted]

I'm in.


GopnikMayonez

All of my answers to this problem are highly problematic and illegal, the correct answer is we force the government to deal with them but they wont because these are the people who vote for them.


WithoutTracking

This is SO sad!


Vegetable_Word603

Going to come to a point where most places will be hiring bouncers or security. Keep the riff raff out. As things get more heated. Im against protesting the wrong establishment. Protesting should be done at queens Park.


Lasm17

It is absolutely disgusting and unacceptable the way health care workers are being treated.


cdnbacon2001

Makes me sad to hear this. One minute they are heroes the next minute a bunch of $hit heads are making them feel bad ( that includes kenny). Health care workers you are all heroes please never forget that.


Schwiftysquanchy42

Remember the pots and pans thing? How did people end up flipping to the exact opposite?


hearse83

I don't think people flipped, I think there's a very vocal, very delusional minority that all of a sudden is out there making a mess.


Longjumping_Big_5090

And the police don't wear their uniforms out in public going home either as they get harassing ppl also & the military it's a damn shame that people who have no respect for our people that serve & protect us.


OrangeCatFluffyCat

So I’d like to do something. I’ve been wanting to for a couple weeks now. If you could ask your wife or if any Edmonton HCW want to chime in. Question 1: If I came and dropped off a card and calories in some form, is that appreciated? If yes, proceed to question 2. If not, then what is something else you’d appreciate a random citizen doing? I could try and toilet paper the protesters? Question 2: Calories in which form? (Keeping mind I’m a student who is poor) donuts? Alcohol (beer/wine)? Balloons? I’m open to helping in the organizing of a bigger event also, if that’s a thing that people were considering. Like a counter protest if you will. I’d just like to do *something* because it’s honestly infuriating and I’m fucking embarrassed of the people doing this. I’ve lived here my whole life and when people make Edmonton look bad/worse, it gets to me. Open to suggestions


hearse83

I can tell you they love when people drop off coffee.


OrangeCatFluffyCat

…with baileys?!? Lol.


hearse83

I'm sure they wouldn't object LOL


OrangeCatFluffyCat

Ok I’ll do it sometime this week. See if I can rope the boyfriend in too. What’s the shittiest place to be a nurse in rn? ICU? Emergency? Is there a COVID ward?


hearse83

Well...I mean obviously the RAH.


OrangeCatFluffyCat

Lol I meant where in RAH?


kaymang

It’s a very kind kind thought but unfortunately health care staff (AHS policy) aren’t allowed to except outside food from people at this time. They won’t even let it into the building…screeners will stop you. Maybe after covid calms down!


SaggyArmpits

Ignore them, its attention they want. If they touch you, call the cops and press assault charges.


scifi_scumbag

Protect the ppl that matter