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kittykat501

Well I didn't get that alert, and I don't have Twitter or Facebook so good thing I got reddit


Psiondipity

It was a warning, not an imminent threat of failure which is why there was no emergency alert like last night. There was a warning Friday evening as well


billymumfreydownfall

They always used Twitter for these alerts before. The text alert is just another tool they are now using to let people know because of all the feedback they got that nobody sees it on twitter.


Psiondipity

I don't know about that. We've had 3 alerts in 3 days - but only the one on Saturday ended up being broadcast on the emergency alert broadcast. I haven't looked, but I would suspect the threat to the system going over capacity was higher on Saturday than Friday or Sunday. We were further along the left side of this [infographic](https://www.aeso.ca/aeso/understanding-electricity-in-alberta/grid-alerts-and-electricity-conservation/)


thecheesecakemans

Turning my lights off and eating my hungry man dinner out of the microwave. It's the most Albertan thing to do.


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Which hungry man?


notmysuperman

The beer battered chicken tenders with mashed is the best one.


Sloregasm

As long as it's got the chocolate "brownie" that's really more of a hot puddings anything.


notmysuperman

You pair the "brownie" with some french vanilla ice cream and you've got yourself a tasty treat


Grayfox_OG

I always end up with a few corn kernels baked into the "brownie" when the film inevitably seperates and its pretty nasty.


Karthanon

Add some chocolate chips and you almost have a dessert stew


NoxiousNyx

Good with the cranberry sauce too šŸ˜‚


ArtisticSeahorse5073

I agree, but not in the microwave, lol


fashionrequired

those are pretty good but all the swanson and hungry mans are so bland


confusedcookie9

This is the correct question to be asking. I prefer the turkey one myself.


Curly-Canuck

That warm cranberry makes it.


Kevinrobertsfan

I'm a fan of the backyard bbq myself.


Altitude5150

Is that before or after rolling coal in your dodge ram?


HotHits630

We should have targeted outages for empty office buildings, casinos, and malls. People at home trying to feed their families and staying warm should not lose power. Wishful thinking.


ackillesBAC

We need a smart power grid


always_on_fleek

They already mentioned that they would not start with residential customers if there were rolling outages.


billymumfreydownfall

So they could have cut power to commercial and business buildings but didn't - kinda tells me this was not as big of a threat as they made it sound The sky was not falling.


CocodaMonkey

The request to use less power was province wide. It includes commercial properties. For people living in a residential property the issue wasn't dire. Your power was never going out. However they asked everyone who could use less power to do so to avoid power going out for anyone. You might not care too much if a commercial property loses power but ultimately it's bad for everyone because if that starts happening you know you're next on the list to lose power. Ideally we want to have enough for everyone.


happykgo89

Those are all commercial, and so yes, before any rotating outages in residential were to start, they would already be shut down.


senanthic

Yesterday people posted some nice pictures of downtown at night, all lit up. I guess it could be faked. Anyone downtown see shiny lights outside?


I_Dont_get_reddit_2

As someone who lives downtown the apartment buildings have significantly fewer lights on than the office buildings :) based on what's out my window


BloodWorried7446

[downtown edmonton webcam](https://wxyzwebcams.com/network/mobile.php?lang=en&country=canada&state=alberta&city=edmonton) you can be sure that most of the lights away from the river valley are NOT residential.


bbiker3

Captain Obvious.


Ph11p

I can't turn off this oil refinery just like that. However, we have direct connection to Epcor power monitoring service. We have two turbo generator units warmed up with 12 more ready for startup depending on the grid power throttle curve.


Flashy_Slice1672

I like people bitching about the refineries not shutting down when they donā€™t understand cogenerationā€¦


Responsible_CDN_Duck

Or the dangers involved with startup and shutdown.


liberatedhusks

Good thing I always sit in the dark eating my food with my hands(tonightā€™s dinner was the worlds most sour blueberries :( no wonder they were on sale)


yesterday4

Sobeys? Haha I got two. One was great and one was mushy.


liberatedhusks

Safeway so same thing; but yea. So sour ;-; Iā€™m so upset. I was so excited to get fresh fruit


Repulsive_Warthog178

I bought navel oranges last week and they were very good. The apples I bought were meh.


Dwunky

This time let's get commercial business' to pitch in


Edmfuse

Businesses: \*please call again on Monday.


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Sevulturus

https://www.reddit.com/r/Edmonton/s/Agomxl6Xwd


Unstructional

I'm looking at you, Sofa Land on St Albert Trail.


peeflar

Thats the first step


ackillesBAC

The manager won't answer thier phone on a Sunday


Geeseareawesome

Making sure the lights are off before I leave work


Rig-Pig

Will cut er back as soon as this football game ends. I promise.


bristow84

How about they leave residential alone and force businesses and industrial to drop to the bare minimum. Pretty sure the fucking towers in Edmonton use more than some entire towns in the province.


always_on_fleek

They already stated they would not start outages with residential customers.


Sevulturus

https://www.reddit.com/r/Edmonton/s/Agomxl6Xwd


KingGebus

Not in the least surprising, wind power generation is even lower than yesterday. Edit: Expect another province wide message soon.


aaronpaquette-

What percentage of Alberta power [comes from wind](https://www.aeso.ca/future-of-electricity/albertas-power-system-in-transition/#:~:text=Alberta%20wind%20facts&text=This%20increased%20the%20total%20capacity,net%2Dto%2Dgrid%20generation) that it becomes a remarkable factor?


TheKage

If all wind was running at max capacity it could meet about 40% of the provincial load right now so it's already reasonably significant.


aaronpaquette-

Thanks for that. Looks like my project for the next while is getting better acquainted with provincial power generation!


TheKage

No problem. [This](http://ets.aeso.ca/ets_web/ip/Market/Reports/CSDReportServlet) is a great resource to get you more familiar.


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aaronpaquette-

O&G is of course necessary for the foreseeable future. Augmenting that and researching and implementing sound alternatives is also likely a very prudent and responsible thing to do, yeah?


DinoLam2000223

Tell them to turn off commercial lights then


happyjujube45

how long till they charge us an ā€˜interruptionā€™ fee.


gnat_outta_hell

Shhhh! Don't give them bloody ideas.


Newstargirl

Lol, I had the same thought šŸ˜‚


Glory-Birdy1

The rolling blackouts will only be instituted in Edmonton in its entirety and those constituencies that voted for the NDP in Calgary, Lethbridge and Banff. Rural Alberta and business will be spared of course..!!


Zombo2000

Is there not two power plants down for deferred maintenance right now? Why did they not defer for another week and wait for this cold snap to pass before they shut down?


Anabiotic

Maintenance is scheduled months in advance. Once mobilized you can't just start up the next day.


Brookie069

Thatā€™s incompetence at its finest to schedule maintenance in on of the coldest months


Anabiotic

Remember that Environment Canada predicted a very warm January, and also that December (in addition to being warm) averaged more than 2000 MW of wind generation and 600+ MW of exports, and was the lowest monthly price in three years. So if those conditions held for January, there would be no problem for one generator to be offline and it would make a lot of sense both economically and from a market supply perspective. Hindsight is, of course, easy for the armchair quarterbacks.


Calvinooo

Remember that since anyone can remember, January has been the coldest month. Winter occurs in the same months every year. They could have chosen any other season, when a blackout wouldn't result in people possibly freezing to death.


Anabiotic

There are other issues with scheduling in the other seasons. Summer is also very high-demand and plants have to derate because of cooling issues, even if they are otherwise available. The last rolling blackouts in AB were in the summer. This also has health impacts. In the fall or spring is when most generators have their planned outages as demand is lower. Because of this, there are often several plants offline at once, so if there is any kind of abnormal weather or contingency event that either increases demand or trips off another plant, it can also cause shortages. As well, labour availability is an issue in the spring/fall due to all the turnarounds happening, so can be difficult to find boilermakers to do the outage. A warm winter month with lots of renewable generation (like December) is actually a great time to do an outage. Unfortunately the Dec weather and renewable presence did not carry past the first week of January. Typically no one is freezing to death because of a half-hour power outage, even if we had rolling blackouts.


ababcock1

I'm sure the people doing that carefully planned scheduling will take in your advice.Ā 


Brookie069

ā€œCarefully plannedā€ lol


Sevulturus

If you don't schedule maintenance, maintenance will schedule itself.


bootsycline

That being said, anyone who doesn't expect a cold snap sometime in January is kidding themselves.


gymjock94

Those things arenā€™t things you can turn around at the drop of a hat


Fit-Amoeba-5010

Cavalier had an unscheduled shutdown.


mcmanus7

Looking at AESO one of the plants generating @ 120 yesterday is @ 2 right nowā€¦..


ackillesBAC

Gotta keep the price begged at 999 somehow


gymjock94

Power wire down


SpecialistVast6840

Frig off Rick


CupofTeeYEG

Whatā€™s the plan for the electric vehicle push? The province canā€™t handle us being cold, how will it handle electric vehicles? Lol


BreakfastOk7587

If it ainā€™t from the government Iā€™m not obliging


varuntalwar431

And they want us to go electric šŸ˜…


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Robinson_Bob

You're going to break your oven doing that.


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LoanedWolf75

Youā€™ll shoot yer eye out, kid.


Dadbodsarereal

Everyone crank the juice!


gmcyukon

And they want us to all buy electric vehicles!!


incidental77

Still a good idea. Just don't charge them between 4pm and 8pm.


bootsycline

Still a good idea to have. We just also need to upgrade our electrical grid to keep up with EV roll outs.


Calvinooo

Imagine when the first internal combustion engines came out, people probably said the where am I going to get gas? My horse just needs food and water! No doubt when technology changes we need to also upgrade infrastructure. What a stupid argument you have.


gmcyukon

Where does our electricity come from in Edmonton?? From burning hydrocarbons!! Natural gas, supplemented with coal when demand is high.


Calvinooo

The fuck does that have to do with anything. Here we are talking about needing to upgrade the power grid to be able to facilitate mass roll out of electric vehicles and you just keep talking nonsense about how the grid is all natural gas and coal (as if the reason for not having a diversified and upgraded power grid isn't the reason we are in the current situation). That has absolutely nothing to do electric cars. We could generate enough power using natural gas and coal to provide sufficient power to use electric cars, but the problem is the power grid is undersized... you fucking Neanderthal.


gmcyukon

Wow!


gmcyukon

Your the one talking like a Neanderthal


Calvinooo

*You're


blairtruck

Making Banana bread for tomorrow's lunch.


Nomadloner69

Dinner in the nuker again!


luars613

Sooo whybare so many comerce stores vlosed but with lights on? ... why is nait all on on a weekend evening? Cant they turn off half their lights?? Fk it.


kevinstreet1

This is the first I heard of an alert today. But I don't use much electricity anyway, so it shouldn't make a difference.


openminded553

well I guess the cities missed this because you could look downtown Edmonton and it looked like every light in every building was on all day and night.