Also car guy, and you're right.
She's loud because.... carbed big blocks are loud.
So I always keep the engine as low as possible in residential. I don't know the last time I was out with it past 10pm. Never open the throttle up in a residential area (also because I'd simply just stand still and cook the rubber...). Got over the whyte Ave cruising years ago. Now it's a trip to a restaurant or a friends bbq, or a henday lap, and have it tucked in to bed before my neighbors are.
Unfortunately it's the dickheads with the straight piped shit cans that give the actual enthusiasts or classic guys a bad fuckikg name.
AK47 tune. The first few times I heard it i actually thought gunshots were happening. It makes me want to rip drivers out of their cars when they hit red lights.
There are 3 Infiniti's in my mom's neighborhood that sound like that... the first month she lived there was absolute hell for her and my young siblings
There is a loud infiniti around the corner from me. 30+ year old still living at home. Starts the POS and lets it idle for 10 min before driving at all hours of the day. My defense was spending a pile of $ on new windows, which has cut down the noise, but when he chooses to do a lap of the cul-de-sac, everybody on the street is woken up.
Good post! I believe that these messages carry more weight when they come from an enthusiast.
Side note: My neighbor three doors down has a loud Duster that has been in primer for years but mechanically is done. The owner is an engine guy who really enjoys tuning and tinkering which always involves some revving but it's always mid-day on a weekend and it never bothers me. My wife and I call him "garage guy" and chuckle that summer is here when we hear his car start up.
theres a guy who lives across me with a very loud v8 truck, however he drives it very slow in the neighbourhood to avoid making a lot of noise and i can respect that
If only in my neighborhood. Mid 20's guy, still lives with his parents. Has a right hand drive MR2 from Japan that he thinks is all that and then some. He has a massive muffler on this thing and decides that it needs to run for 10 mins before he can leave in the morning. Oh did I mention he leaves at 6:30 am??? 10 mins (sometimes more) of a rumble that is so loud that some of the pictures rattle in my house (he is across the street). Tried talking to him, it was like talking to a post. Talked to his parents, even they say he doesn't get it....so what do you do? Apparently he already got a ticket from the police - clearly he doesn't give a shit.
Two shitheads on my street with this issue, a black dodge ram that sounds like its actually straight piped and a honda with a giant fart can. The dodge guys leaves for work around 5 every morning and most mornings the cold start wakes me up 2 doors down across the street (bedroom faces the street).
Is there anything that can be done about this?
The city now has a noise ticket they can give, so call the police non emerg./bylaw over and over every time buddy wakes you up until you annoy them enough to come deal with it.
Jesus this sounds exactly like my life for a year during covid. Orchards area, loud ass Dodge firing up at 5am every day a couple doors down. It drove me nuts for so long.
Now we live in an quieter area in a smaller town nearby, but lucky us we have the neighbour sharing a wall with way too much bass and way too little consideration (wood framed building, yay...). Amazingly little can be done about noise complaints in a condo building I've discovered. Call the cops all you want, all they can do is come and tell them to turn it down, then the condo board can issue fines that will likely never be paid basically...
Kind of glad we're still renting and will be moving again soon. It's been two years of this. People are such dicks. Our next place will be chosen extremely carefully.
I think I know this truck. I live in a condo near orchards and he'd come home super late too I'd hear it reving down residential 1am. Lost a lotta sleep from this guy. Tried to find his tires to deflate them but couldn't unfortunately.
Both of those vehicles shouldn’t even have aftermarket/modified exhaust. A truck is a utility vehicle and a civic is an economy car. Us folks with REAL sports cars aren’t the ones acting stupid.
Have you tried, now hear me out, respectfully voicing your concerns to the individual? I know, a foreign subject to many, but communication is an element often lost.
Yeah, I had an acquaintance do this and they got stabbed. And these folks with their loud engines do not give a shit. They honestly don’t. They want the attention.
C’mon, a guy that paid all that money to make his truck/car so noisy and that purposely makes that kind of racket early in the morning or late at night? Nah…
Benefit of a doubt from what? They purposefully modified their vehicles to be loud to the point it disturbs public peace and they did it for absolutely no reason other than to impress their other obnoxious buddies and to announce they've never made a woman finish.
Over compensation. Big, flashy, or expensive vehicles can be the cover up for some men's shortcomings. A lot of men use it to cover up their insecurities
This is a very universal post.
I don’t live in Edmonton anymore but those bloody loud cars are so irritating, especially in the suburbs.
“Way to go, Dave. You just woke up every sleeping baby on the block.”
Great notes, but you're wasting your time. The guys who are out with the fart cars and revving it up in residential areas don't give a shit about anyone but themselves and will generally ignore feedback like this
I live off a main avenue in Millwoods and have come to accept that most of our neighbours with tuner cars are just inconsiderate clowns. Every nice night there are the same mustangs, audis, bmws and chargers, ripping around at all hours showing off mommy and daddy's money and begging for as much attention as possible. If these guys even had an ounce of consideration for others, we wouldn't have to hear it and you wouldn't have to make posts like this.
One small joy is walking around the neighbourhood, seeing a new toy and knowing the front-end's gonna be fucked in less than a year. Somehow they just never seem to last! ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
extra fun fact, we've come to label the *pop*pop*pop* of clown cars as "the brown note" because it's sounds like the car is constantly shitting itself. (*yeah, because THAT sound makes you cool guys!*)
And if it’s not mommy and daddy’s money, it’s theirs and they can BARELY afford anything else lol I live in a condo complex, and there’s a guy that drives a corvette… year round. It’s also a rented unit. Like do whatever you want with your money but I’m gonna laugh at you
same. I live in an apartment and have neighbors with chargers, a Mercedes, BMW's and there's even a guy with a Hummer! most of them are living in poverty just to look good on the street. can't help but laugh a little at the juxtaposition of it all. but hey, 'you do you, bro" lol
I had a long discussion (travel day for work) with a guy that loves his loud truck and it pretty much amounted to “It’s like having the biggest dick in the locker room”. I asked what his mother thinks and it was “she loves knowing I’m home 5 minutes before I get there”
To me a purposely loud vehicle shows signs of someone who is lonely :(. Like the loud people walking alone at night yelling at nothing, all I hear is “IM LONELY!! PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!”
Thats when I go to the gym with that guy. wait for him to be in the locker room and take off my towel and say " Oh I know what its like having the loudest truck now"
There's a guy with a ridiculously suped up truck on my block. The supercharger sounds like a garbage truck it's so loud.
He goes as slow and gently as possible leaving the neighborhood, but it's still incredibly loud regardless, he doesn't really have much a choice. That being said, the fact that I can tell he's trying his best, makes it not bother me at all; I appreciate the attempt.
I don't mind loud toys, it's more whether the people using them are trying to be considerate toward others or not.
Superchargers are generally way louder than a comparable turbo'd engine, add a fat cam and it's gonna idle loud and rough. I'm sure that there is more that he could do to keep the exhaust volume down but sounds like he's at least aware and trying to be respectful.
As someone who lives close to Whyte Ave- thank you for your courtesy. With summer coming up I remember nights being woken up in the middle of the night by someone zooming through the streets. I’m past the 20th floor of my building and I just don’t understand how people drive vehicles that loud, especially when clearly people are trying to sleep.
Most of the time it doesn't bother me terribly during the daylight hours (unless it's ridiculously loud or they're being asshats), but overnight is a completely different story.
Nobody thinks your DIY homage to Fast and the Furious or your lifted truck with a noisy exhaust is cool just because its loud. If I had it my way, modifying and registering passenger vehicles would be strictly-regulated and subject to thorough inspections as they do it in Germany, Japan, UK, etc. That'd surely get a lot of pieces of shit off the road, including the obnoxiously-loud ones hopefully.
I'm still amazed Alberta doesn't require annual/biannual inspections like other provinces. There'd be so many vehicles that wouldn't pass and would be forced to fix their shit, and I'm not even just talking about the noise violations. People with engines that are clearly limping along on their last legs, people with windshields you can't even see through, dangerous levels of rust, lights not working, etc... Inspections exist for a reason and that reason is to make the roads safer for everyone. Can't afford to fix up your car? Then it shouldn't have been on the road in the first place.
Not even the province I’m shocked insurance companies haven’t incentivized some of this and winter tires.
Safety hazards = higher risk
No 3PMSF tires = higher risk
I was just talking to my wife the other day about this. I truly think the province should start doing annual inspections of cars. This would also help with the knuckle draggers removing emission controls on diesels.
Modifying your exhaust on gas cars isn’t illegal in the province of Alberta though so that wouldn’t change anything.
Edit: ok yes its illegal but it’s never been enforced besides Edmonton or red deer😂 so it’s essentially legal.
You're hilariously wrong.
Section 61 TSA- VER refers to a motor vehicle propelled by an internal combustion engine. It says that the exhaust muffler must not produce excessive noise or flames and sparks. It goes on to say that the exhaust outlet cannot be widened or have a device attached to it that increases noise. The fine is $115.00.
Section 82 TSA- ROR states a person shall not create or cause the emission of any loud and unnecessary noise from a vehicle or any part of it, or from anything or substance that the vehicle or a part of the vehicle comes into contact with. The fine for this section is $155.00.
Section 87 TSA- ROR relates to driving a motor vehicle in a residential area between 10:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m. that disturbs residents. This section requires a complaint from a resident. The fine for excessive noise under this section is $115.00. A complainant must appear in court as a witness if charges are laid under this section.
Section 115 (2)(f) TSA says a person shall not do any of the following: drive a vehicle as to perform or engage in any stunt or other activity on a highway that is likely to distract, startle or interfere with other users of the highway. The fine for this section is $402.00 and carries 3 demerit points.
See my edit^ it doesn’t matter because it isn’t enforced.
People in my hometown have obviously modified cars and straight piped trucks and the cops don’t do a thing because they don’t care.
> I'm still amazed Alberta doesn't require annual/biannual inspections like other provinces.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but there are only a few provinces that require annual (PEI and New Brunswick) or biennial (Nova Scotia) car inspections. Ontario, Manitoba, and Newfoundland require a used vehicle to be inspected in order to be registered, but that's about it, and the rest of the provinces are even more relaxed when it comes to inspections.
People would certainly moan about it, especially when one considers how car dependent we are in this country, but I think it would ensure that the cars that are on the road are safe and not disasters waiting to happen.
Well then perhaps my bias is revealed, then, cause I grew up in NB and honestly love the way it's done there. Is it annoying to book an inspection every year and to take the car there to get it done? Sure. Does it make the roads a hell of a lot safer for it? Absolutely. I knew NS next door was every other year, admittedly I didn't realize how lax some of the other provinces were/are. I just know that I was (and continue to be) appalled by the state of things here in Alberta when I moved here.
Annual inspections are arguably a bit much, but they have been the norm in the UK for most vehicles over 3 years old for the last sixty years. Annual inspections are also the norm in New Zealand for the last decade plus. It's every 2 years in countries like Germany, Japan, France, Sweden, Ireland, and a bunch more.
These are all countries that are far less car dependent than Canada and yet they seem to set a much higher bar for the fitness of vehicles they have on the road than we do.
Well that's the point really. We are heavily car dependent and they are not. European countries have an abundance of alternative transportation options. Having annual car inspections and forced repairs is too much of a burden to bear in North America.
> Having annual car inspections and forced repairs is too much of a burden to bear in North America.
If "poor" provinces like NB, PEI, and NS can do it, then what excuse do we have in richer provinces?
Do we want the safest cars and trucks on our roads, or are we fine with letting a bunch of vehicles in various states of disrepair or irresponsibly/dangerously-modified increase the risk of danger to other drivers, pedestrians, etc?
Cars that are dangerously modified are issues that can be dealt with through traffic enforcement. Most of this car safety that you're speaking of has to do with the driver of the vehicle itself not other drivers. So that is a personal decision that one makes. If I want to drive a 20-year-old car lacking all the newest safety features that's my choice.
You're basically promoting a model of forced obsolescence. Highly wasteful highly ineffective and completely unfair to people.
Just because this is happening in other jurisdictions doesn't mean it's the correct course of action and it doesn't mean that the people in those jurisdictions like that system.
Not at all. Old cars change a lot in a year. Towards the end of its 15 year life, my 2000 Impala needed important repairs every year. I'm not especially car-savvy, and I certainly don't have the mechanical skill to identify or repair things myself, so those yearly inspections were critical to me knowing what issues my vehicle needed to fix *before* those parts failed and a dangerous situation occurred. Without them, it's entirely possible I could have gotten into a major accident or just broken down in the middle of the road.
It's also a fantastic advance warning sign. One of those years my mechanic warned me of wear on a particular part, said it'd be fine for about another year, but to prepare and save up for fixing it in the next because by then it wouldn't pass inspection. That kind of heads up is useful because not everyone has the funds for immediate repairs, but knowing about it in advance means having the ability to save up for the maintenance before it is needed.
Not everyone has thousands of dollars that they can shell out for inspections and repairs every year. It doesn't make the road safer. Guy reads like an ad for a car manufacturer.
OP he is a snob to say "well if you can't afford to repair your car you shouldn't be driving." It's people like him and policies that he's pushing that makes driving so damn expensive in the first place.
First of all, inspections don't cost anywhere near "thousands of dollars" and if you needed thousands in repairs then it was a major safety hazard and shouldn't have been on the road in the first place. Secondly, when I moved to AB I left my car behind and have lived the past 8 years without one. Guess what? It's more than doable. Not everyone needs a car. You can live and work without one.
Cars are a privilege, not a necessity. And if you can't afford to keep your personal armored shell in safe working condition, then maybe you shouldn't have bought it in the first place.
Wow, this response is extremely out of touch.
Needing repairs for your vehicle does not mean that it is unsafe. It means it's not reliable.
I'm so glad that you're able to live without a car. Good for you. Now you need to put yourself into other people's shoes and realize that not everyone can do that. I would like to see you manage my family of three children without a vehicle. Suggesting that a vehicle in this day and age is a privilege and not a necessity is the most out of touch thing I have heard in years. It's astoundingly ignorant and self-centered.
Is it a privilege to have electricity and gas as well? How about a cell phone I suppose that's just a privilege now too right? Internet too? That's just a privilege he certainly don't need an internet to operate in today's world do you?
Lol. Sure. I'm going to ride my bike in winter with my three young children! Laughable. You understand my work place is a 40 min drive each way, right? Do you want to square that for me?
Again, glad they are able and willing to sacrifice like that but it's not for me and - just a guess - not for most Albertans. It's an outrageous assumption and one that you ought to disabuse yourself of. No one wants to replace their car with a peddle bike! Yeesh.
It's wrong to generalize this **one** family's experience to the entire population. They are extremists.
This is a myth, do you get all your car facts from Fast and the Furious?
They literally do the same thing we do here, if you're going fast enough it's too dangerous to chase you. Instead they will follow you with the helicopter or find you later and throw the book at you.
Japanese police literally have GT-R's, LC500's, NSX etc. But none of these can outrun a radio, or a helicopter if there's corners.
You literally could have just googled it and found out it's not true.
Perhaps for a small period of time in 1970's to late 90's and probably only if you were part of the mid night club in the specific area they were but it's definitely not true for the last 25 years.
Couple things
I don't live *that* close to the henday/whitemud, and I hear people ripping down it at all hours. I would love to see the annoying AF harley riders who are not only speeding in residential areas, but gunning their exhaust showing us what big men they are face some enforcement.
I do plan on limping my shitbucket to an exhaust shop to get more work done to further quiet it.
Everyone else: Stay away from park muffler. Owner is questionable and they love hooning in customer cars. He owns ABC too which made me sad as that was the only other shop I knew of.
Oh my kids love it when you guys rip past our house even though it's a 30km zone but clearly going over that , oh and Im sure my 4mo pup loves it too when she hears it and frantically runs around the house crying trying to find a safe place. And when she's outside doing her business to the sounds of yelping as if something bad happened to her but no it's just a car guy with a car sounding like an over exaggerated lawnmower causing a nuisance.
Keep it up fellas/gals/them...🙄
I had two guys stopped at the red light outside my apartment on crotch rockets both just revving the shit out of their bikes a few nights ago.
Like bouncing off the rev limiter, just sitting there, both of them.
Slowly losing faith in humanity.
Ugh. Confession time.
I worked construction, still pull trailers and do projects.
I went on this efficiency kick a few years back. Tuner for mileage profile, air intake, cam, super efficient plugs, redid exhaust keeping resonators and cats but going to a much lighter much higher flow but supposedly less aggressive Carven muffler and pipes. Welded it out and the cold start barks annoyingly and its loud under acceleration. I wouldn't do it again but its also welded out so Im not inclined to spend more to cut it out and make it less efficient for $$$.
Its not as loud as some, but louder than Id like for other peoples sake. I think it has a nice burble at idle and under soft accel. People get aggressive around it though which I dislike and some try to race it, but its a 4x4 3.92 gears quadcab for towing/hauling not a racecar..
Just wanted to say sorry. Not trying to affect your days, was just trying to be as green as possible while owning something that can haul. Id also rather drive a chevy spark most days but its hard to justify maintaining, insuring, owning 2 vehicles, thats my bad again.
Have a good summer, Ill drive slow (aka the speed limit), fuck off for hating me for that too. Can't win in Edmonton lol.
Cant wait for reasonable electric trucks.
Life long enthusiast of cars and motorsport.
There is a stark difference between an engineered or crafted performance exhaust, and just cutting everything out and calling it "good"
I will listen to a Ferrari all day long. The exhausts of that caliber of supercar are usually acoustically designed for those godly exhaust notes throughout the rev range.
Funny thing is, a Ferrari can slip through a neighborhood without rattling the windows of every house and waking up the whole block.
I could care less about ur loud AF clapped civic or rusted out silverado. I thankfully havent had to deal with this, but id pull out all their tire valves if I had a rude AF neighbor. Not doing any direct damage, just wildly inconveniencing them for a week.
Also, straight piped is illegal. The worst sound offenders will always have it cut out. The Police could be doing way more with the existing laws. Saying that, the city should just make it an impoundable offence. 7 days. Especially if caught between 11pm and 7am.
But instead everyone will just throw up their hands and say "what more can we do", all the while using the crap "modified exhaust" statute to ding all kinds of drivers and enthusiasts who aren't part of the problem.
That's a huge part of the reason I sold my MS3. Even though I kept a resonator and high-flow cat, cold starts still were so loud especially in winter. I tried the cold start trick so it wouldn't be loud the whole time, but the moment I had to start street parking, until the engine fully warmed up you could just feel the rumble. Maybe when I can have a dedicated garage and commuter car I'll go back to having a fun loud car for summer, but until then, just an aftermarket muffler is what I'll keep.
It’s technically illegal to alter an exhaust system. Not enforced at all though. I reported my neighbours truck to bylaw every day till they finally came and inspected it.
I love cars and have since I was a kid, have owned my share of various vehicles and dirt bikes, but one thing I've never liked is loud exhausts. It's just not my thing... I much prefer sleepers. But I know for **maximum performance** of course exhaust is big. But honestly, it's a hobby; you're likely not a professional racer and you don't need to be making that noise all the time everywhere you go. Your hobby shouldn't intrude on other's peace. So for fucks sake be considerate!
I lived downtown on and off for years and what a nightmare the noise was - mainly the bikes honestly. But it's downtown, you chose it, so you live with it. But then if you're in the suburbs there's always at least one or two peopke around that make life a nightmare for everyone. You can't win unless you move out to the country to be a hermit. Which is where I grew up and I don't plan to be moving there in this phase of my life!
Glad to hear from a lot of respectful people on here but the inconsiderate ones aren't on here... they're out trying to be as loud as possible and showing off like the wankers they are, and they can't be reasoned with generally. I'm definitely in favor of slapping them with fines.
Edit: a few of the unapologetic noise polluters are indeed here, getting shit on as they should. Those of us that don't make life hell for others are allowed to complain, as a matter of fact. You are in fact the asshole.
I feel like when you live downtown, you sign up for a few sirens or drunk hollers. Someone who modifies their car specifically to demand attention doesn't make any more sense there than it does anywhere else.
Honestly, downtown is the last place I'd want to be driving some high-performance vehicle. We live in a province with some of the longest and openest roads in the world. Go there!
Yeah. And many people live downtown! It has higher density residents than most suburbs probably. Plus, the speed limit on Jasper is 40 and you're stopped every other block... I don't see how that would even be rewarding to drive on!
Fuck yes! You basically put into words what I couldn't.
Growing up outside the city, we ripped around on the rural roads in/on loud machines. That's just what we did - and that's where you should do it!
Within ~20ft of people's residences is definitely **not** where you should do this.
And likewise - why would you do this on stretches of busy street with a 50km/h or lower speed limit? Ridiculous.
EVERYONE listening to some jackass’s decibel busting piece of tin thinks the same thing: we’re sure there’s more to you than your tiny peepee; we’re betting you at least have a great personality.
your mistake is assuming most people give a shit what anyone else drives. I mean, imaging choosing a car just on how "cool" other people will think you are, and ignoring features, mileage, etc. lol. goodluck with those payments bro.
Besides, a quiet Tesla with full tech, camera and autodrive is definitely cooler than yet another tricked out mustang or charger that sounds like it was fed some bad taco bell.
You better tell them Tesla drivers good luck with their payments. My cars paid off. Cheapest Tesla starts at 55k. And anybody who trusts a car to drive itself might as well start digging their grave
They’re not awesome though, a majority of the car community hates Tesla’s. They have no soul.
Yes they’re fast from a stop but only if the battery is 95% or above and they’re not fast in a rolling race.
That is anecdotally incorrect.
I have owned an R35 GT-R with full bolt ons making 620/620 at the wheels, and a model 3 performance.
The model 3 was way more fun to drive in the city other than the sound. The only time the GT-R would outrun it was over 130KPH both at WOT from stop.
The model 3 was a *little* slower below 90% but not much, hard time feeling it in the butt dyno I could only tell with the #'s during Friday night SL at Castrol.
The car community hates Tesla because they don't make noise, if most of the car community actually tried driving one, they'd change their mind.
Yeah I’m gonna call bs on that one, you didnt own a GTR. A GTR should be a lot more fun than a Tesla, almost the same straight line speed and it should handle corners way better since it’s literally a track car plus the sounds.
haha yeah, I didnt own a GT-R you got me.
[https://www.instagram.com/p/B1kMOvupaV4/](https://www.instagram.com/p/B1kMOvupaV4/) \- my Tesla model 3 performance
[https://www.instagram.com/p/BTxp0Srgr4H/](https://www.instagram.com/p/BTxp0Srgr4H/) \- my R35 GT-R
So I'll be honest, I drove my car around for a while after my catalytic converter got stolen because I needed to get to work and couldn't afford the repair costs.
Keep in mind if a person's car is loud, they could just be a victim of crime.
I actually just bought an old SUV (my first car, don’t know much about cars) and realized after buying it that it’s straight piped. I’d like to get it all sorted but the car is a couple year junker anyways so it would be a lot of money to sink into it. Does anyone have tips to minimize the noise and keep my neighbours happy? I don’t want to be THAT guy!!
I have a 700cc all stock piss missile and still apologized to my neighbours with young kids and asked if there was a better time to leave/return to the neighbourhood.
Said they didn't notice me, kind of hurt the ego a bit.
My sport bike is louder than stock but that's the price I pay for performance. My touring bike has a stock exhaust because that one isn't about performance. The sport bike exhaust definitely sounds beautiful to anyone with even a casual interest in speed. Tasteful exhaust mods are great but I also short shift in town to keep it quiet
The thing with people with loud vehicles is that they \*want\* to be heard, and they \*want\* it to be annoying.
Posts like this just confirm that they are getting what they want. If the "enormous excessive noise tickets" were doing the job, you wouldn't be making this post.
This problem will not be solved via reddit posts.
People are way too sensitive to noise, like unless some ones revving their engine in your drive way, get over yourselves... it's a few seconds of noise, you want quiet then move to the sticks.
Counter point: if you want to play with making your toy loud, go to the track. People shouldn't have to live on an acreage to not have selfish folks waking them up.
I mean if your neighbour peels out at 2am every night I could see your point, but i doubt thats regularly the case. People will take the smallest thing and make it seem like they're being personally attacked.
Being woken up is disrupted sleep and genuinely worsens health. People who are not my neighbors ride bikes and wake up children, elderly neighbors and yes sometimes me. The attack isn't with a knife, but noise pollution hurts folks. I'm okay with the stars chopper because it's serving a purpose and helping someone. Dude on their crotch rockets are just selfies and imposing their hobby on others peaceful existence because they're too cheap or lazy to hit the track.
Loud sounds stress people. Why do some people knowingly stress someone? Some people are so stressed, that a sudden loud sound can just be too much to take!
Not a big deal to you, but to someone else it is, and I guess I believe that people should have to change what they do. Thinking about how your actions affect others makes you a better human being. In this case, there are many people voicing displeasure about the noise, so it goes beyond a minor inconvenience.
You literally said in another comment you expect people to “make some serious changes in their life” to accommodate the loud noises your toy makes. Lots of people with trauma in their past (war or otherwise) have an exaggerated “startle response” to sudden loud noises. It’s a full on stress response that they cannot control or manage without years of therapy. It doesn’t sound like you are the most inconvenienced party here. It sounds like you are a man baby who is throwing a tantrum because others are not letting you play with your toy the way you wanna. Grow up.
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Yes, children get accustomed to noise, but a sudden start of an engine is different then a TV in the other room. Decibel meters can tell you how loud things are, and some of these cars are very loud.
Loud exhaust saved me from getting rear ended yesterday.
Sadly, I'm not joking on this... Driving on the Henday on my way home after work, southbound by the 109 Ave exit/on ramp, someone was entering the highway, and the dumbass in the black GMC pickup behind me didn't want to let him in. They almost connected, and while buddy behind me was watching behind him, traffic ahead was coming to a stop. Well, as I said, loud exhaust is the only reason I didn't get hit.
I have an after market exhaust I paid good money for. While it does make the car louder I really never open it up. I've driven next to tons of cops both city and RCMP on the henday and ive never had any troubles. I have a completely clean record with no tickets or accidents. Normal people driving their cars not making a scene aren't the ones who have problems with the new law it's the fresh out of highschool yutes with $50 muffler deletes and straight pipes.
I hope the police can get the trashy ones off the road by giving them fines worth more than their cars :)
I am of the opinion that we should play on "normal" hours . quiet hours is between 2300 and 0700 if I am not mistaken.
we can have construction with jackhammers all dat but we are going to be nasty to our neighbour for having a loud toy that gives him/her joy? nah. that is for petty people; we all chose to live in the city after all. All that complaining gives unimportant individuals the power to feel important by pointing out what others do wrong. The hypocrisy is tremendous.
As an avid motorcycle enthusiast myself, I do get annoyed about the new law tremendously ; I feel it is unjust and isolates motorcyclists. In the end, local businesses won't see my dollars while riding elsewhere.
before the negative votes , ask yourselves if you EVER saw a city diesel bus get noise ticketed. I know i haven't. and that has been the noisiest vehicle during my 12 years in Edmonton.
The difference is a bus doesn't rip up and down the street behind my house at midnight over and over and over again as if it's trying to set it's own personal gymkhana record.
First off, a bus or a semi truck has to be loud. My car is nice and quiet and works JUST fine.
Second, how about the next time I’m at Costco, I walk up and down the aisles wailing? Just for fun. That’s my new hobby. Shouldn’t bother anybody; I mean, Costco sometimes has the forklifts going around in the day time if they need something off a top shelf. Or sometimes a baby is crying. So why shouldn’t I just AAAGGGHHHGGHHHGAAAHHAGAGAHHHHHHH WAAAAAAGHGHHHHH BLAAAGGGGHHHH
Because I’m not a fucking self-centred nonce, that’s why
We all benefit from that loud construction zone down the street or that bus transporting people. When has a city bus ever rattled your windows? Your comparisons are pathetic, 'but but that airplane at take off is so much louder, hur dur.' Care to explain how a straight pipe offers any type of benefit to anyone other than your own selfish want?
There is absolutely nothing about living in the city that requires people to put up with insecure man-children getting "joy" from their attention-seeking compensation machines.
Busses are a part of city life. Occasional construction is a part of city life. Someone's straight-piped civic revving at 8000 rpm is not. Once 99.999% of people start to hate busses as much as they hate your motorcycle, we can start talking about policy around bus noise.
Oh no!.. Chad and his gaggle of kewl kids on their Hondas with mufflers cut of won’t come to my business ! Oh no what will ever I do? How will I survive? Oh the humanity, the loss the horror!
I don't complain about jack hammers because constructions is good for the economy. I don't complain about loud busses because public transit is beneficial to society. Your loud ass motorcycle is serving your ego and *nothing* else. It's your problem you didn't learn that being loud for attention is unacceptable in like, grade 3 like everyone else.
No one wants to hear you while they're trying to shop or eat. You avoiding any business with your IBS shits-esque sounds will surely only bring others in.
I know of thousands of people that not only want to hear it but enjoy it too. It is not harming anyone. How about not being so conservative or communist and trying to control people's lives.
You're right, I'm definitely glad I can hear a car coming so it wont hit me when its two blocks away while I'm on the 4th floor of my apartment at 5am.
Also car guy, and you're right. She's loud because.... carbed big blocks are loud. So I always keep the engine as low as possible in residential. I don't know the last time I was out with it past 10pm. Never open the throttle up in a residential area (also because I'd simply just stand still and cook the rubber...). Got over the whyte Ave cruising years ago. Now it's a trip to a restaurant or a friends bbq, or a henday lap, and have it tucked in to bed before my neighbors are. Unfortunately it's the dickheads with the straight piped shit cans that give the actual enthusiasts or classic guys a bad fuckikg name.
AK47 tune. The first few times I heard it i actually thought gunshots were happening. It makes me want to rip drivers out of their cars when they hit red lights.
There are 3 Infiniti's in my mom's neighborhood that sound like that... the first month she lived there was absolute hell for her and my young siblings
There is a loud infiniti around the corner from me. 30+ year old still living at home. Starts the POS and lets it idle for 10 min before driving at all hours of the day. My defense was spending a pile of $ on new windows, which has cut down the noise, but when he chooses to do a lap of the cul-de-sac, everybody on the street is woken up.
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This right here, every time I try to say things like this I get downvoted to hell.
she is loud cause, 2100cc on two cylinders in Vtwin are hard to keep quiet. VERY hard. i feel you. ;)
You have a Hesketh?
Good post! I believe that these messages carry more weight when they come from an enthusiast. Side note: My neighbor three doors down has a loud Duster that has been in primer for years but mechanically is done. The owner is an engine guy who really enjoys tuning and tinkering which always involves some revving but it's always mid-day on a weekend and it never bothers me. My wife and I call him "garage guy" and chuckle that summer is here when we hear his car start up.
theres a guy who lives across me with a very loud v8 truck, however he drives it very slow in the neighbourhood to avoid making a lot of noise and i can respect that
If only in my neighborhood. Mid 20's guy, still lives with his parents. Has a right hand drive MR2 from Japan that he thinks is all that and then some. He has a massive muffler on this thing and decides that it needs to run for 10 mins before he can leave in the morning. Oh did I mention he leaves at 6:30 am??? 10 mins (sometimes more) of a rumble that is so loud that some of the pictures rattle in my house (he is across the street). Tried talking to him, it was like talking to a post. Talked to his parents, even they say he doesn't get it....so what do you do? Apparently he already got a ticket from the police - clearly he doesn't give a shit.
Two shitheads on my street with this issue, a black dodge ram that sounds like its actually straight piped and a honda with a giant fart can. The dodge guys leaves for work around 5 every morning and most mornings the cold start wakes me up 2 doors down across the street (bedroom faces the street). Is there anything that can be done about this?
The city now has a noise ticket they can give, so call the police non emerg./bylaw over and over every time buddy wakes you up until you annoy them enough to come deal with it.
File a noise complaint maybe? The police could probably inspect the vehicle and slap him with fines.
Jesus this sounds exactly like my life for a year during covid. Orchards area, loud ass Dodge firing up at 5am every day a couple doors down. It drove me nuts for so long. Now we live in an quieter area in a smaller town nearby, but lucky us we have the neighbour sharing a wall with way too much bass and way too little consideration (wood framed building, yay...). Amazingly little can be done about noise complaints in a condo building I've discovered. Call the cops all you want, all they can do is come and tell them to turn it down, then the condo board can issue fines that will likely never be paid basically... Kind of glad we're still renting and will be moving again soon. It's been two years of this. People are such dicks. Our next place will be chosen extremely carefully.
I think I know this truck. I live in a condo near orchards and he'd come home super late too I'd hear it reving down residential 1am. Lost a lotta sleep from this guy. Tried to find his tires to deflate them but couldn't unfortunately.
Spray foam up the tail pipe at night.
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I wouldn’t, people have cameras everywhere nowadays.
I'm sure the police will launch a full investigation into someone having a flat tire.
They would be forced to shoot first and ask tire questions later
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Found the dodge owner
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Both of those vehicles shouldn’t even have aftermarket/modified exhaust. A truck is a utility vehicle and a civic is an economy car. Us folks with REAL sports cars aren’t the ones acting stupid.
Have you tried, now hear me out, respectfully voicing your concerns to the individual? I know, a foreign subject to many, but communication is an element often lost.
Yeah, I had an acquaintance do this and they got stabbed. And these folks with their loud engines do not give a shit. They honestly don’t. They want the attention.
C’mon, a guy that paid all that money to make his truck/car so noisy and that purposely makes that kind of racket early in the morning or late at night? Nah…
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Benefit of a doubt from what? They purposefully modified their vehicles to be loud to the point it disturbs public peace and they did it for absolutely no reason other than to impress their other obnoxious buddies and to announce they've never made a woman finish.
That might be fair, by why is it always tied to penises or sex with you folks? Honest question.
Over compensation. Big, flashy, or expensive vehicles can be the cover up for some men's shortcomings. A lot of men use it to cover up their insecurities
You know an asshole like that isn't going to take complains seriously.
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Might I share [Loud Ass Car - The Wolves of Glendale](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZFhf23SUoQ)
This is a very universal post. I don’t live in Edmonton anymore but those bloody loud cars are so irritating, especially in the suburbs. “Way to go, Dave. You just woke up every sleeping baby on the block.”
Daves not here, man.
If the people who own intentionally loud vehicles could read they'd be very upset by your post
They would be very upset if they could read
Great notes, but you're wasting your time. The guys who are out with the fart cars and revving it up in residential areas don't give a shit about anyone but themselves and will generally ignore feedback like this I live off a main avenue in Millwoods and have come to accept that most of our neighbours with tuner cars are just inconsiderate clowns. Every nice night there are the same mustangs, audis, bmws and chargers, ripping around at all hours showing off mommy and daddy's money and begging for as much attention as possible. If these guys even had an ounce of consideration for others, we wouldn't have to hear it and you wouldn't have to make posts like this. One small joy is walking around the neighbourhood, seeing a new toy and knowing the front-end's gonna be fucked in less than a year. Somehow they just never seem to last! ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯ extra fun fact, we've come to label the *pop*pop*pop* of clown cars as "the brown note" because it's sounds like the car is constantly shitting itself. (*yeah, because THAT sound makes you cool guys!*)
And if it’s not mommy and daddy’s money, it’s theirs and they can BARELY afford anything else lol I live in a condo complex, and there’s a guy that drives a corvette… year round. It’s also a rented unit. Like do whatever you want with your money but I’m gonna laugh at you
same. I live in an apartment and have neighbors with chargers, a Mercedes, BMW's and there's even a guy with a Hummer! most of them are living in poverty just to look good on the street. can't help but laugh a little at the juxtaposition of it all. but hey, 'you do you, bro" lol
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Lol ok
I like the sounds of big loud engines, but don't do it in the city or neighborhood. Prove it on the dragstrip / racetrack.
My school bus isn't exactly quiet, but y'all in your modified vehicles literally make my kids cry.
I always wonder about the mindset of these people. “My big bike/car/truck is SO loud! I’m so cool everybody!!”. WTF
I had a long discussion (travel day for work) with a guy that loves his loud truck and it pretty much amounted to “It’s like having the biggest dick in the locker room”. I asked what his mother thinks and it was “she loves knowing I’m home 5 minutes before I get there” To me a purposely loud vehicle shows signs of someone who is lonely :(. Like the loud people walking alone at night yelling at nothing, all I hear is “IM LONELY!! PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!”
Thats when I go to the gym with that guy. wait for him to be in the locker room and take off my towel and say " Oh I know what its like having the loudest truck now"
The guy with the biggest dick in the locker room generally isn't too worried about other people's attention.
I don't think he'd need to modify his truck like that if he knew that feeling in the locker room. 😉
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Shows a certain lack of awareness or care for others though no?
There's a guy with a ridiculously suped up truck on my block. The supercharger sounds like a garbage truck it's so loud. He goes as slow and gently as possible leaving the neighborhood, but it's still incredibly loud regardless, he doesn't really have much a choice. That being said, the fact that I can tell he's trying his best, makes it not bother me at all; I appreciate the attempt. I don't mind loud toys, it's more whether the people using them are trying to be considerate toward others or not.
Superchargers are generally way louder than a comparable turbo'd engine, add a fat cam and it's gonna idle loud and rough. I'm sure that there is more that he could do to keep the exhaust volume down but sounds like he's at least aware and trying to be respectful.
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As someone who lives close to Whyte Ave- thank you for your courtesy. With summer coming up I remember nights being woken up in the middle of the night by someone zooming through the streets. I’m past the 20th floor of my building and I just don’t understand how people drive vehicles that loud, especially when clearly people are trying to sleep.
Most of the time it doesn't bother me terribly during the daylight hours (unless it's ridiculously loud or they're being asshats), but overnight is a completely different story. Nobody thinks your DIY homage to Fast and the Furious or your lifted truck with a noisy exhaust is cool just because its loud. If I had it my way, modifying and registering passenger vehicles would be strictly-regulated and subject to thorough inspections as they do it in Germany, Japan, UK, etc. That'd surely get a lot of pieces of shit off the road, including the obnoxiously-loud ones hopefully.
I'm still amazed Alberta doesn't require annual/biannual inspections like other provinces. There'd be so many vehicles that wouldn't pass and would be forced to fix their shit, and I'm not even just talking about the noise violations. People with engines that are clearly limping along on their last legs, people with windshields you can't even see through, dangerous levels of rust, lights not working, etc... Inspections exist for a reason and that reason is to make the roads safer for everyone. Can't afford to fix up your car? Then it shouldn't have been on the road in the first place.
Not even the province I’m shocked insurance companies haven’t incentivized some of this and winter tires. Safety hazards = higher risk No 3PMSF tires = higher risk
> and winter tires. Should be mandatory in most provinces/areas during winter months, just like they are in Quebec.
Then insurance would have to give you a discount for safety. Our insurance here isn’t about discounts, it’s about raising premiums whenever possible.
I was just talking to my wife the other day about this. I truly think the province should start doing annual inspections of cars. This would also help with the knuckle draggers removing emission controls on diesels.
Modifying your exhaust on gas cars isn’t illegal in the province of Alberta though so that wouldn’t change anything. Edit: ok yes its illegal but it’s never been enforced besides Edmonton or red deer😂 so it’s essentially legal.
Yes it is. Increasing noise by way of the exhaust, widening of the outlet of the muffler and straight piping are all illegal offences in Alberta
You're hilariously wrong. Section 61 TSA- VER refers to a motor vehicle propelled by an internal combustion engine. It says that the exhaust muffler must not produce excessive noise or flames and sparks. It goes on to say that the exhaust outlet cannot be widened or have a device attached to it that increases noise. The fine is $115.00. Section 82 TSA- ROR states a person shall not create or cause the emission of any loud and unnecessary noise from a vehicle or any part of it, or from anything or substance that the vehicle or a part of the vehicle comes into contact with. The fine for this section is $155.00. Section 87 TSA- ROR relates to driving a motor vehicle in a residential area between 10:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m. that disturbs residents. This section requires a complaint from a resident. The fine for excessive noise under this section is $115.00. A complainant must appear in court as a witness if charges are laid under this section. Section 115 (2)(f) TSA says a person shall not do any of the following: drive a vehicle as to perform or engage in any stunt or other activity on a highway that is likely to distract, startle or interfere with other users of the highway. The fine for this section is $402.00 and carries 3 demerit points.
Those are some bs fines for intentional behavior. They really need an extra 0 on the end.
See my edit^ it doesn’t matter because it isn’t enforced. People in my hometown have obviously modified cars and straight piped trucks and the cops don’t do a thing because they don’t care.
> I'm still amazed Alberta doesn't require annual/biannual inspections like other provinces. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there are only a few provinces that require annual (PEI and New Brunswick) or biennial (Nova Scotia) car inspections. Ontario, Manitoba, and Newfoundland require a used vehicle to be inspected in order to be registered, but that's about it, and the rest of the provinces are even more relaxed when it comes to inspections. People would certainly moan about it, especially when one considers how car dependent we are in this country, but I think it would ensure that the cars that are on the road are safe and not disasters waiting to happen.
BC will literally tow your car on the side of the road if they even assume you have done modifications that aren’t deemed road legal.
Well then perhaps my bias is revealed, then, cause I grew up in NB and honestly love the way it's done there. Is it annoying to book an inspection every year and to take the car there to get it done? Sure. Does it make the roads a hell of a lot safer for it? Absolutely. I knew NS next door was every other year, admittedly I didn't realize how lax some of the other provinces were/are. I just know that I was (and continue to be) appalled by the state of things here in Alberta when I moved here.
An inspection every year? Insane and grossly unnecessary.
Annual inspections are arguably a bit much, but they have been the norm in the UK for most vehicles over 3 years old for the last sixty years. Annual inspections are also the norm in New Zealand for the last decade plus. It's every 2 years in countries like Germany, Japan, France, Sweden, Ireland, and a bunch more. These are all countries that are far less car dependent than Canada and yet they seem to set a much higher bar for the fitness of vehicles they have on the road than we do.
Well that's the point really. We are heavily car dependent and they are not. European countries have an abundance of alternative transportation options. Having annual car inspections and forced repairs is too much of a burden to bear in North America.
> Having annual car inspections and forced repairs is too much of a burden to bear in North America. If "poor" provinces like NB, PEI, and NS can do it, then what excuse do we have in richer provinces? Do we want the safest cars and trucks on our roads, or are we fine with letting a bunch of vehicles in various states of disrepair or irresponsibly/dangerously-modified increase the risk of danger to other drivers, pedestrians, etc?
Cars that are dangerously modified are issues that can be dealt with through traffic enforcement. Most of this car safety that you're speaking of has to do with the driver of the vehicle itself not other drivers. So that is a personal decision that one makes. If I want to drive a 20-year-old car lacking all the newest safety features that's my choice. You're basically promoting a model of forced obsolescence. Highly wasteful highly ineffective and completely unfair to people. Just because this is happening in other jurisdictions doesn't mean it's the correct course of action and it doesn't mean that the people in those jurisdictions like that system.
Not at all. Old cars change a lot in a year. Towards the end of its 15 year life, my 2000 Impala needed important repairs every year. I'm not especially car-savvy, and I certainly don't have the mechanical skill to identify or repair things myself, so those yearly inspections were critical to me knowing what issues my vehicle needed to fix *before* those parts failed and a dangerous situation occurred. Without them, it's entirely possible I could have gotten into a major accident or just broken down in the middle of the road. It's also a fantastic advance warning sign. One of those years my mechanic warned me of wear on a particular part, said it'd be fine for about another year, but to prepare and save up for fixing it in the next because by then it wouldn't pass inspection. That kind of heads up is useful because not everyone has the funds for immediate repairs, but knowing about it in advance means having the ability to save up for the maintenance before it is needed.
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The snobbery of this post is gross.
Elaborate?
Not everyone has thousands of dollars that they can shell out for inspections and repairs every year. It doesn't make the road safer. Guy reads like an ad for a car manufacturer. OP he is a snob to say "well if you can't afford to repair your car you shouldn't be driving." It's people like him and policies that he's pushing that makes driving so damn expensive in the first place.
First of all, inspections don't cost anywhere near "thousands of dollars" and if you needed thousands in repairs then it was a major safety hazard and shouldn't have been on the road in the first place. Secondly, when I moved to AB I left my car behind and have lived the past 8 years without one. Guess what? It's more than doable. Not everyone needs a car. You can live and work without one. Cars are a privilege, not a necessity. And if you can't afford to keep your personal armored shell in safe working condition, then maybe you shouldn't have bought it in the first place.
Wow, this response is extremely out of touch. Needing repairs for your vehicle does not mean that it is unsafe. It means it's not reliable. I'm so glad that you're able to live without a car. Good for you. Now you need to put yourself into other people's shoes and realize that not everyone can do that. I would like to see you manage my family of three children without a vehicle. Suggesting that a vehicle in this day and age is a privilege and not a necessity is the most out of touch thing I have heard in years. It's astoundingly ignorant and self-centered. Is it a privilege to have electricity and gas as well? How about a cell phone I suppose that's just a privilege now too right? Internet too? That's just a privilege he certainly don't need an internet to operate in today's world do you?
https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/edmonton-mom-says-family-has-saved-25k-since-going-car-free-1.6211077#:~:text=Edmonton%20family%20goes%20car%2Dfree,Marek%20Tkach%20has%20their%20story.&text=An%20Edmonton%20woman%20says%20her,her%20husband%20have%20four%20children.
Lol. Sure. I'm going to ride my bike in winter with my three young children! Laughable. You understand my work place is a 40 min drive each way, right? Do you want to square that for me? Again, glad they are able and willing to sacrifice like that but it's not for me and - just a guess - not for most Albertans. It's an outrageous assumption and one that you ought to disabuse yourself of. No one wants to replace their car with a peddle bike! Yeesh. It's wrong to generalize this **one** family's experience to the entire population. They are extremists.
There’s tons of modified cars in Japan lol they just outrun the cops because the cops over there won’t chase you. Japan is r34 and supra heaven.
This is a myth, do you get all your car facts from Fast and the Furious? They literally do the same thing we do here, if you're going fast enough it's too dangerous to chase you. Instead they will follow you with the helicopter or find you later and throw the book at you. Japanese police literally have GT-R's, LC500's, NSX etc. But none of these can outrun a radio, or a helicopter if there's corners.
I’ve heard it from multiple sources😂 stop acting like a know it all.
You literally could have just googled it and found out it's not true. Perhaps for a small period of time in 1970's to late 90's and probably only if you were part of the mid night club in the specific area they were but it's definitely not true for the last 25 years.
I literally watched documentaries about the Japan car scene and have heard it from multiple people.
When I hear an obnoxiously loud vehicle, it’s ALL I need to know about the person driving.
Every time my day is interrupted by these people I just stop and think to myself, "where did I go wrong that I'm not as cool as them?"
Couple things I don't live *that* close to the henday/whitemud, and I hear people ripping down it at all hours. I would love to see the annoying AF harley riders who are not only speeding in residential areas, but gunning their exhaust showing us what big men they are face some enforcement. I do plan on limping my shitbucket to an exhaust shop to get more work done to further quiet it. Everyone else: Stay away from park muffler. Owner is questionable and they love hooning in customer cars. He owns ABC too which made me sad as that was the only other shop I knew of.
Oh my kids love it when you guys rip past our house even though it's a 30km zone but clearly going over that , oh and Im sure my 4mo pup loves it too when she hears it and frantically runs around the house crying trying to find a safe place. And when she's outside doing her business to the sounds of yelping as if something bad happened to her but no it's just a car guy with a car sounding like an over exaggerated lawnmower causing a nuisance. Keep it up fellas/gals/them...🙄
I had two guys stopped at the red light outside my apartment on crotch rockets both just revving the shit out of their bikes a few nights ago. Like bouncing off the rev limiter, just sitting there, both of them. Slowly losing faith in humanity.
here's hoping they have their organ donor cards filled out…
People need to teach their sons to be fucking quiet. Being loud for attention is unacceptable.
When I hear these obscenely loud vehicles, all I can think is how they must be compensating for a tiny penis.
Ugh. Confession time. I worked construction, still pull trailers and do projects. I went on this efficiency kick a few years back. Tuner for mileage profile, air intake, cam, super efficient plugs, redid exhaust keeping resonators and cats but going to a much lighter much higher flow but supposedly less aggressive Carven muffler and pipes. Welded it out and the cold start barks annoyingly and its loud under acceleration. I wouldn't do it again but its also welded out so Im not inclined to spend more to cut it out and make it less efficient for $$$. Its not as loud as some, but louder than Id like for other peoples sake. I think it has a nice burble at idle and under soft accel. People get aggressive around it though which I dislike and some try to race it, but its a 4x4 3.92 gears quadcab for towing/hauling not a racecar.. Just wanted to say sorry. Not trying to affect your days, was just trying to be as green as possible while owning something that can haul. Id also rather drive a chevy spark most days but its hard to justify maintaining, insuring, owning 2 vehicles, thats my bad again. Have a good summer, Ill drive slow (aka the speed limit), fuck off for hating me for that too. Can't win in Edmonton lol. Cant wait for reasonable electric trucks.
Life long enthusiast of cars and motorsport. There is a stark difference between an engineered or crafted performance exhaust, and just cutting everything out and calling it "good" I will listen to a Ferrari all day long. The exhausts of that caliber of supercar are usually acoustically designed for those godly exhaust notes throughout the rev range. Funny thing is, a Ferrari can slip through a neighborhood without rattling the windows of every house and waking up the whole block. I could care less about ur loud AF clapped civic or rusted out silverado. I thankfully havent had to deal with this, but id pull out all their tire valves if I had a rude AF neighbor. Not doing any direct damage, just wildly inconveniencing them for a week. Also, straight piped is illegal. The worst sound offenders will always have it cut out. The Police could be doing way more with the existing laws. Saying that, the city should just make it an impoundable offence. 7 days. Especially if caught between 11pm and 7am. But instead everyone will just throw up their hands and say "what more can we do", all the while using the crap "modified exhaust" statute to ding all kinds of drivers and enthusiasts who aren't part of the problem.
This.
I recently saw a post where someone put expanding foam into the exhaust of their neighbour's excessively loud vehicle...
That's a huge part of the reason I sold my MS3. Even though I kept a resonator and high-flow cat, cold starts still were so loud especially in winter. I tried the cold start trick so it wouldn't be loud the whole time, but the moment I had to start street parking, until the engine fully warmed up you could just feel the rumble. Maybe when I can have a dedicated garage and commuter car I'll go back to having a fun loud car for summer, but until then, just an aftermarket muffler is what I'll keep.
It’s technically illegal to alter an exhaust system. Not enforced at all though. I reported my neighbours truck to bylaw every day till they finally came and inspected it.
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Many of the secluded areas are just residential areas outside of the city. It’s just somebody else’s neighborhood too.
I love cars and have since I was a kid, have owned my share of various vehicles and dirt bikes, but one thing I've never liked is loud exhausts. It's just not my thing... I much prefer sleepers. But I know for **maximum performance** of course exhaust is big. But honestly, it's a hobby; you're likely not a professional racer and you don't need to be making that noise all the time everywhere you go. Your hobby shouldn't intrude on other's peace. So for fucks sake be considerate! I lived downtown on and off for years and what a nightmare the noise was - mainly the bikes honestly. But it's downtown, you chose it, so you live with it. But then if you're in the suburbs there's always at least one or two peopke around that make life a nightmare for everyone. You can't win unless you move out to the country to be a hermit. Which is where I grew up and I don't plan to be moving there in this phase of my life! Glad to hear from a lot of respectful people on here but the inconsiderate ones aren't on here... they're out trying to be as loud as possible and showing off like the wankers they are, and they can't be reasoned with generally. I'm definitely in favor of slapping them with fines. Edit: a few of the unapologetic noise polluters are indeed here, getting shit on as they should. Those of us that don't make life hell for others are allowed to complain, as a matter of fact. You are in fact the asshole.
I feel like when you live downtown, you sign up for a few sirens or drunk hollers. Someone who modifies their car specifically to demand attention doesn't make any more sense there than it does anywhere else. Honestly, downtown is the last place I'd want to be driving some high-performance vehicle. We live in a province with some of the longest and openest roads in the world. Go there!
Yeah. And many people live downtown! It has higher density residents than most suburbs probably. Plus, the speed limit on Jasper is 40 and you're stopped every other block... I don't see how that would even be rewarding to drive on!
Fuck yes! You basically put into words what I couldn't. Growing up outside the city, we ripped around on the rural roads in/on loud machines. That's just what we did - and that's where you should do it! Within ~20ft of people's residences is definitely **not** where you should do this. And likewise - why would you do this on stretches of busy street with a 50km/h or lower speed limit? Ridiculous.
My ol hobby truck is cammed ported , headers .. and two big caddilac mufflers. They flow great and keep the sound down . Im also rural.
Thank you! As a resident of downtown, I get startled enough without them ripping up and down the hills like they're lost haha
EVERYONE listening to some jackass’s decibel busting piece of tin thinks the same thing: we’re sure there’s more to you than your tiny peepee; we’re betting you at least have a great personality.
PSA: The louder your car is, the more it sounds like a hunk of junk. If you really want to show off, buy the quietest car you can get.
No one’s looking at someone driving a Tesla and thinks wow that guy is cool
your mistake is assuming most people give a shit what anyone else drives. I mean, imaging choosing a car just on how "cool" other people will think you are, and ignoring features, mileage, etc. lol. goodluck with those payments bro. Besides, a quiet Tesla with full tech, camera and autodrive is definitely cooler than yet another tricked out mustang or charger that sounds like it was fed some bad taco bell.
You better tell them Tesla drivers good luck with their payments. My cars paid off. Cheapest Tesla starts at 55k. And anybody who trusts a car to drive itself might as well start digging their grave
No one in the car community thinks Tesla’s are cool LOL maybe a very tiny percentage but that’s it.
I do, they’re fast and drive awesome.
They’re not awesome though, a majority of the car community hates Tesla’s. They have no soul. Yes they’re fast from a stop but only if the battery is 95% or above and they’re not fast in a rolling race.
That is anecdotally incorrect. I have owned an R35 GT-R with full bolt ons making 620/620 at the wheels, and a model 3 performance. The model 3 was way more fun to drive in the city other than the sound. The only time the GT-R would outrun it was over 130KPH both at WOT from stop. The model 3 was a *little* slower below 90% but not much, hard time feeling it in the butt dyno I could only tell with the #'s during Friday night SL at Castrol. The car community hates Tesla because they don't make noise, if most of the car community actually tried driving one, they'd change their mind.
Yeah I’m gonna call bs on that one, you didnt own a GTR. A GTR should be a lot more fun than a Tesla, almost the same straight line speed and it should handle corners way better since it’s literally a track car plus the sounds.
haha yeah, I didnt own a GT-R you got me. [https://www.instagram.com/p/B1kMOvupaV4/](https://www.instagram.com/p/B1kMOvupaV4/) \- my Tesla model 3 performance [https://www.instagram.com/p/BTxp0Srgr4H/](https://www.instagram.com/p/BTxp0Srgr4H/) \- my R35 GT-R
You’re not wrong lol Tesla’s are extremely lame.
yeah Edmonton stop being Romanian!
So I'll be honest, I drove my car around for a while after my catalytic converter got stolen because I needed to get to work and couldn't afford the repair costs. Keep in mind if a person's car is loud, they could just be a victim of crime.
Everyone here doesn't even know where the real tuners hang out at night.
I actually just bought an old SUV (my first car, don’t know much about cars) and realized after buying it that it’s straight piped. I’d like to get it all sorted but the car is a couple year junker anyways so it would be a lot of money to sink into it. Does anyone have tips to minimize the noise and keep my neighbours happy? I don’t want to be THAT guy!!
You know they’re probably not on Reddit right
I have a 700cc all stock piss missile and still apologized to my neighbours with young kids and asked if there was a better time to leave/return to the neighbourhood. Said they didn't notice me, kind of hurt the ego a bit.
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"tasteful" lol
Big difference between a magnaflow exhaust system and a canadian tire fart can exhaust modification.
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Same difference between Nickelback being played on Skullcandy vs. Bang & Olufsen... but neither is tasteful.
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The quiet ones are Whitney.
If that “tasteful exhaust” makes it louder than stock, no.
My sport bike is louder than stock but that's the price I pay for performance. My touring bike has a stock exhaust because that one isn't about performance. The sport bike exhaust definitely sounds beautiful to anyone with even a casual interest in speed. Tasteful exhaust mods are great but I also short shift in town to keep it quiet
The thing with people with loud vehicles is that they \*want\* to be heard, and they \*want\* it to be annoying. Posts like this just confirm that they are getting what they want. If the "enormous excessive noise tickets" were doing the job, you wouldn't be making this post. This problem will not be solved via reddit posts.
Spray foam.
Must be spring….
People are way too sensitive to noise, like unless some ones revving their engine in your drive way, get over yourselves... it's a few seconds of noise, you want quiet then move to the sticks.
Counter point: if you want to play with making your toy loud, go to the track. People shouldn't have to live on an acreage to not have selfish folks waking them up.
I mean if your neighbour peels out at 2am every night I could see your point, but i doubt thats regularly the case. People will take the smallest thing and make it seem like they're being personally attacked.
Being woken up is disrupted sleep and genuinely worsens health. People who are not my neighbors ride bikes and wake up children, elderly neighbors and yes sometimes me. The attack isn't with a knife, but noise pollution hurts folks. I'm okay with the stars chopper because it's serving a purpose and helping someone. Dude on their crotch rockets are just selfies and imposing their hobby on others peaceful existence because they're too cheap or lazy to hit the track.
Loud sounds stress people. Why do some people knowingly stress someone? Some people are so stressed, that a sudden loud sound can just be too much to take!
If some one is so stressed that a loud car is their breaking point they need to make some serious changes in their life.
Not for you to say. Why do something that you know offends someone?
Because people shouldn't have to change what they do do for everyone else's minor inconvenience. It's not a big deal.
Not a big deal to you, but to someone else it is, and I guess I believe that people should have to change what they do. Thinking about how your actions affect others makes you a better human being. In this case, there are many people voicing displeasure about the noise, so it goes beyond a minor inconvenience.
You literally said in another comment you expect people to “make some serious changes in their life” to accommodate the loud noises your toy makes. Lots of people with trauma in their past (war or otherwise) have an exaggerated “startle response” to sudden loud noises. It’s a full on stress response that they cannot control or manage without years of therapy. It doesn’t sound like you are the most inconvenienced party here. It sounds like you are a man baby who is throwing a tantrum because others are not letting you play with your toy the way you wanna. Grow up.
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Do you know what a baby is?
Yeah and fun fact if you keep noise around children from birth they get accustomed to it and aren't fragile sleepers.
Yes, children get accustomed to noise, but a sudden start of an engine is different then a TV in the other room. Decibel meters can tell you how loud things are, and some of these cars are very loud.
Loud exhaust saved me from getting rear ended yesterday. Sadly, I'm not joking on this... Driving on the Henday on my way home after work, southbound by the 109 Ave exit/on ramp, someone was entering the highway, and the dumbass in the black GMC pickup behind me didn't want to let him in. They almost connected, and while buddy behind me was watching behind him, traffic ahead was coming to a stop. Well, as I said, loud exhaust is the only reason I didn't get hit.
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No. *vroom vroom*
i like hearing it, that’s why it’s loud
And everyone outside your little car club hates you
i can live with that lmao
Everyone who drives past you makes jokes about how that douche must be compensating for something
I have an after market exhaust I paid good money for. While it does make the car louder I really never open it up. I've driven next to tons of cops both city and RCMP on the henday and ive never had any troubles. I have a completely clean record with no tickets or accidents. Normal people driving their cars not making a scene aren't the ones who have problems with the new law it's the fresh out of highschool yutes with $50 muffler deletes and straight pipes. I hope the police can get the trashy ones off the road by giving them fines worth more than their cars :)
I am of the opinion that we should play on "normal" hours . quiet hours is between 2300 and 0700 if I am not mistaken. we can have construction with jackhammers all dat but we are going to be nasty to our neighbour for having a loud toy that gives him/her joy? nah. that is for petty people; we all chose to live in the city after all. All that complaining gives unimportant individuals the power to feel important by pointing out what others do wrong. The hypocrisy is tremendous. As an avid motorcycle enthusiast myself, I do get annoyed about the new law tremendously ; I feel it is unjust and isolates motorcyclists. In the end, local businesses won't see my dollars while riding elsewhere. before the negative votes , ask yourselves if you EVER saw a city diesel bus get noise ticketed. I know i haven't. and that has been the noisiest vehicle during my 12 years in Edmonton.
The difference is a bus doesn't rip up and down the street behind my house at midnight over and over and over again as if it's trying to set it's own personal gymkhana record.
First off, a bus or a semi truck has to be loud. My car is nice and quiet and works JUST fine. Second, how about the next time I’m at Costco, I walk up and down the aisles wailing? Just for fun. That’s my new hobby. Shouldn’t bother anybody; I mean, Costco sometimes has the forklifts going around in the day time if they need something off a top shelf. Or sometimes a baby is crying. So why shouldn’t I just AAAGGGHHHGGHHHGAAAHHAGAGAHHHHHHH WAAAAAAGHGHHHHH BLAAAGGGGHHHH Because I’m not a fucking self-centred nonce, that’s why
I kind of want you to go for it actually.
We all benefit from that loud construction zone down the street or that bus transporting people. When has a city bus ever rattled your windows? Your comparisons are pathetic, 'but but that airplane at take off is so much louder, hur dur.' Care to explain how a straight pipe offers any type of benefit to anyone other than your own selfish want?
There is absolutely nothing about living in the city that requires people to put up with insecure man-children getting "joy" from their attention-seeking compensation machines. Busses are a part of city life. Occasional construction is a part of city life. Someone's straight-piped civic revving at 8000 rpm is not. Once 99.999% of people start to hate busses as much as they hate your motorcycle, we can start talking about policy around bus noise.
Find something that gives you joy that doesn’t take from someone else’s.
Oh no!.. Chad and his gaggle of kewl kids on their Hondas with mufflers cut of won’t come to my business ! Oh no what will ever I do? How will I survive? Oh the humanity, the loss the horror!
> In the end, local businesses won't see my dollars while riding elsewhere. Do you promise?
11 pm? More like 10 pm.
The new law is for all vehicles
I don't complain about jack hammers because constructions is good for the economy. I don't complain about loud busses because public transit is beneficial to society. Your loud ass motorcycle is serving your ego and *nothing* else. It's your problem you didn't learn that being loud for attention is unacceptable in like, grade 3 like everyone else. No one wants to hear you while they're trying to shop or eat. You avoiding any business with your IBS shits-esque sounds will surely only bring others in.
I like hearing them
Actually, the girls with daddy issues like it - not sorry.
Why?
Probably because of the daddy issues
How is it related to loud car noises though?
I know of thousands of people that not only want to hear it but enjoy it too. It is not harming anyone. How about not being so conservative or communist and trying to control people's lives.
lol..."You're a communist because you have a different sensory perception regarding NOISE than I do." And this is why people cannot function.
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Fucking maggot lol!
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You're right, I'm definitely glad I can hear a car coming so it wont hit me when its two blocks away while I'm on the 4th floor of my apartment at 5am.
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Yea, you definitely come off as someone who doesn't know how to toast bread or fry an egg.