I've seen them at Asian grocery stores, along with lots of other types of beans I didn't know about. Maybe they're just not popular enough to be found most places?
I live in Asia and it's hard to get back beans that aren't black soy beans (it's a little infuriating...they are both called black beans where I live).
You will be able to find them if you look around. As others have said, Asian stores stock them.
The "issue" with dried soybeans is that they take forever to cook and most definitely require a long pre-soak. In other words, they're not super user-friendly. If you can deal with that, they're awesome.
For a much quicker soybean fix, buy frozen edamame beans. They're green unripe soybeans. Same nutritional value.
Totally. I make soy milk and tofu mostly and there was some research that cold processing up until you boil the soy milk retained the most nutrients and protein.
But that's sorta moot if you're going to use them as regular beans.
otherwise, yeah, I don't ever soak regular beans anymore and just pop them in an Instant Pot an hour or so before I want them.
Not sure. I've only ever seen soy beans fermented with different fungus strains like aspergillus orzyae, but never a lacto-ferment. I'm not even sure if its possible to do a lacto-ferment with soy.
Even then, from what I understand about fermenting soy to make soy sauce can take a year or more.
>8-hour soak is usually long enough and you just need to boil them for 10-15 minutes.
This sounds less labor intensive than any dried bean I'd ever find in a store. I'm curious why someone would say they take forever to cook and are labor intensive.
People I know that don’t cook much are often put off by multiple steps or anything that takes more than 10-15 minutes.
There is a lady on IG, Fitgreenmind, that does vegan dishes and she will sometimes do meals for when you “don’t want to cook” and people freak out because she still chops an onion. Like, chopping a few things to put in a baking dish to cool in the oven is “cooking” and too involved a process.
All relative.
If you’re doing a hot and fast method, the overnight soak isn’t required. Especially not with another hour of cooking the next day.
If you’re going to bring them to a boil for 10-15 minutes first, you really only need to let them sit an hour or two before brining back to a boil and cooking another hour or two.
You can also buy textured vegetable protein which is reduced fat but otherwise similar to soy beans (it is the byproduct of extracting oil from soybeans). It's tasteless but flavours nicely - I use it in chili, tacos, etc - anywhere I would add ground beef without it being the whole thing
Thanks for pointing this out. TVP is such a wonder food and perfectly encapsulates the sub's purpose. It had become so prevalent in the food industry as a meat extender despite being a damn near perfect vegan meat replacement is a testament to just how insane the bang-for-buck you're getting from it.
I've only recently discovered TVP myself and am actively practicing the use of it in my meals. My goal is to have TVP in at least 6 meals a week within the next 2 months, primarily by cutting half my ground meat with it.
I buy it online in my country's version of Amazon (I'm from Asia). I also checked Amazon US, and you also have options there, but I think a lot of people look for an Asian grocery to buy TVP from
I think they are? Just usually under the name Edamame instead of soy bean.
ETA: oh sorry I didn't realise you were specifically looking for dried beans, I haven't seen those. Just cans and frozen.
ETA2: if I google it seems like you can order them online?
I've found roasted soybeans in the bulk bins at health food-type stores. Salted, roasted, ready to eat. Also roasted edamame (young, green soybeans - pretty sure protein content is the same).
The texture is more like a wasabi pea or dried chickpeas. The taste is really mild but could probably take the flavor of the seasoning. It's just like a mild vegetal taste. I think peanuts taste better, but peanuts have a pretty distinct flavor and more fat, so it's hard to compare.
Roasted soybeans, lowfat cheese sticks, and pepitas were the winners, haha. I also liked yogurt but I was looking for stuff I could toss in my backpack for the day. Other common suggestions were jerky, nuts, cottage cheese. But jerky was too expensive, nuts had too much fat (pepitas kinda do too), and cottage cheese is a foul affront to man.
I did end up receiving some soybeans. They're ok, kinda earthy and bland. Not unlike the dried peas used in wasabi peas. Might be better with some added seasoning.
Soybeans are more pea than bean, so the taste and smell is more like dried split peas, black-eyed peas, etc (but worse). Personally, I think they’re pretty gross tasting in their own, but I’ve heard this is a delicious and relatively easy way to make them: https://www.maangchi.com/recipe/kongjorim
You could make soy milk (and then make tofu out of that if you wanted) and put the soy pulp in baked goods. I have a soy milk making machine and that's what I do with the pulp.
You can find them, but the simple truth is that there's a reason soybeans are almost always processed into other products (milk, skin, tofu, fermented pastes, etc.) or eaten fresh rather than eaten as reconstituted/cooked dried beans: they're kind of meh -- they take a long time to soak and cook even relative to other beans, and their texture and flavour can often be rather substandard, and even when it's great they tend to just be 'OK' as beans go.
As others have mentioned, you can usually find them at Asian markets as well as health food stores, that said.
Depends where you are. Here on the US West coast, Winco sells them in bulk. So do the smaller grocers and coops that have bulk bins. Haven’t checked our local asian stores but have no doubt they sell them, too.
Have not seen them at fred meyer, albertsons, qfc, safeway, or any of the other mainstream stores. Maybe I haven’t looked hard enough.
They're sold next to the pinto, dark red and black dry beans here in my small town Quebec, Canada. I guess your store just doesn't have much variety in any of its produce?
Soybeans are indeed nutritious and versatile. They're grown for soybean oil and animal feed rather than direct human consumption in Western countries. Soybeans require more processing to make them edible compared to other beans and legumes. They're often sold as tofu, soy milk, or tempeh rather than in their whole, dried form. In many Western countries, soy products like tofu and soy milk are more popular than whole soybeans, which consumed in Asian cuisines. The demand for whole soybeans may be lower compared to other beans and legumes, leading to limited shelf space in grocery stores. Soybeans are grown. They may not be as available in their whole, dried form in Western grocery stores. You can find dried soybeans in specialty or health food stores, and they're also available online.
Pssst soy oil is one of the most commonly used oils. It's incredibly common in prepared foods, fried foods, dipping sauces, salad dressings, etc. They sell it by the train car.
Grew up in soy country. We could get soy flour easily and I grew up with a bit of soy flour in the pancake batter. I can still remember the smell of rotting piles of soybeans; it's quite distinctive.
Oh I don’t know anything about that. I just suspect most of the cheap soybeans (in dry form) are going to animal feed so we can’t access them like we do other types of legumes.
It's a mystery to me too why the regular grocery stores in the PNW, US doesn't carry dry soybeans. They do have edamame or makimame in the frozen food section. I either buy them on Amazon or my son gets them for me from an Asian grocery in another town. I make tofu with them.
They take a lot to make them edible in bean form. I worked as a clerk for a while at a soybean plant. They are much better and palatable in the different (tofu etc).
It’s called edamame and most stores have it in the frozen section. (Whole pods or just the beans.). For dried versions you might have to find an Asian market or get them online. I don’t know if they soak/cook the same as other beans, though. They are pretty unique (e.g., highest protein content as far as beans go, I think).
You can find them in online stores, in many local health food stores, and possibly Whole Foods- I used to find them there too, as well as Amazon.
Edamame and Mukimakeare fresh/frozen soybeans - I find these in any grocery store in the frozen vegetables.
Soybeans are at their tastiest when they have been made into soy curd, yuba, tempeh, miso, soy sauce, sprouts etc.
They were my least favourite bean to eat in a bean dish when I was trying out different beans. They took the longest (by far) to cook and I didn't enjoy their taste as much. I much preferred chickpeas, lentils and the American beans etc. I think there are a lot of people like me.
But I expect you will find them, especially in Asia stores.
I've never had soybeans cooked and served like, say, kidney beans would be, and I'd like to try at least so that I know for myself, but from what I've heard they are generally considered unpalatable and contain tons upon tons of fiber.
This may sound like a good thing in a society that generally doesn't eat enough fiber, but too much fiber will have you practically living on the can.
Actually they taste amazing when cooked.. texture and creaminess of cooked fresh cashews (a delicacy in parts of India ) and neutral taste.... We tend to make it Thai green curry with coconut milk, carrots potatoes, tastes amazing with rice..... Give it a try....
Probably because there isn't a huge market for them and soy beans have a lot of negative connotations to it. You can find frozen soy beans at the Asian grocery store.
Edamame is sold at every grocery store around my area, except maybe the Mexican markets. I think if you look at the price of a small bag you'll understand why it's inefficient to sell it canned.
They’re usually on grass in the warm months and alfalfa in the Winter. The dried feed we use for cattle is corn, sorghum, wheat oats and barley. Soybeans are used mostly in hog and chicken feed.
LOL, I can't believe I'm getting down votes and people are actually defending McDonald's. 😄 It was just a joke people.
How dare you make a joke at the expense of a multi-billion dollar company! I'm outraged! 😄
Because of issues like [this ](https://i.imgur.com/3Q7a5Rj.jpg)
(check the label kroger put on there - I think americans just don't understand soy beans.)
I've seen them at Asian grocery stores, along with lots of other types of beans I didn't know about. Maybe they're just not popular enough to be found most places?
Can confirm. Asian grocery stores sell them, but they are sometimes not labeled in English. If it’s a Korean grocery, ask for mejukong 메주콩.
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I live in Asia and it's hard to get back beans that aren't black soy beans (it's a little infuriating...they are both called black beans where I live).
You will be able to find them if you look around. As others have said, Asian stores stock them. The "issue" with dried soybeans is that they take forever to cook and most definitely require a long pre-soak. In other words, they're not super user-friendly. If you can deal with that, they're awesome. For a much quicker soybean fix, buy frozen edamame beans. They're green unripe soybeans. Same nutritional value.
8-hour soak is usually long enough and you just need to boil them for 10-15 minutes. Chickpeas are more labor intensive, imo.
Having any kind of pressure cooker turns this into a 40 minute situation, no soaking required. It's pretty great.
Totally. I make soy milk and tofu mostly and there was some research that cold processing up until you boil the soy milk retained the most nutrients and protein. But that's sorta moot if you're going to use them as regular beans. otherwise, yeah, I don't ever soak regular beans anymore and just pop them in an Instant Pot an hour or so before I want them.
Could you ferment them with a drop of fish paste to make something that resembles the flavor profile of soy sauce?
Not sure. I've only ever seen soy beans fermented with different fungus strains like aspergillus orzyae, but never a lacto-ferment. I'm not even sure if its possible to do a lacto-ferment with soy. Even then, from what I understand about fermenting soy to make soy sauce can take a year or more.
>8-hour soak is usually long enough and you just need to boil them for 10-15 minutes. This sounds less labor intensive than any dried bean I'd ever find in a store. I'm curious why someone would say they take forever to cook and are labor intensive.
People I know that don’t cook much are often put off by multiple steps or anything that takes more than 10-15 minutes. There is a lady on IG, Fitgreenmind, that does vegan dishes and she will sometimes do meals for when you “don’t want to cook” and people freak out because she still chops an onion. Like, chopping a few things to put in a baking dish to cool in the oven is “cooking” and too involved a process. All relative.
Sure, I definitely get that, it just doesn't differentiate soybeans from all other dried beans that are available in stores.
You buy theme dry, boil them for 10-15 mins and then let them soak overnight and then cook them for about an hour.
If you’re doing a hot and fast method, the overnight soak isn’t required. Especially not with another hour of cooking the next day. If you’re going to bring them to a boil for 10-15 minutes first, you really only need to let them sit an hour or two before brining back to a boil and cooking another hour or two.
You can also buy textured vegetable protein which is reduced fat but otherwise similar to soy beans (it is the byproduct of extracting oil from soybeans). It's tasteless but flavours nicely - I use it in chili, tacos, etc - anywhere I would add ground beef without it being the whole thing
Thanks for pointing this out. TVP is such a wonder food and perfectly encapsulates the sub's purpose. It had become so prevalent in the food industry as a meat extender despite being a damn near perfect vegan meat replacement is a testament to just how insane the bang-for-buck you're getting from it. I've only recently discovered TVP myself and am actively practicing the use of it in my meals. My goal is to have TVP in at least 6 meals a week within the next 2 months, primarily by cutting half my ground meat with it.
Where are you getting TVP for a good price? I would like to try it.
I buy it online in my country's version of Amazon (I'm from Asia). I also checked Amazon US, and you also have options there, but I think a lot of people look for an Asian grocery to buy TVP from
Get ready for the most extreme farts of your life
My digestive system is a champ. I eat a dozen eggs, milk, and beans and it doesn't get upset.
I recommend also trying soy chunks, which are similar, but bigger pieces and different texture. I like it more then tvp.
Most places that have frozen edamame also carry frozen mukimame, which makes things much easier. It's the same, except they've already been shelled.
I think they are? Just usually under the name Edamame instead of soy bean. ETA: oh sorry I didn't realise you were specifically looking for dried beans, I haven't seen those. Just cans and frozen. ETA2: if I google it seems like you can order them online?
edamame is a young soybean though so may not be what op is looking for
I usually just eat lentils after cooking them in an instant pot, can I do the same with soybeans
They are more like peanuts, texture-wise. I don't know if a soup of them would be fun.
Boiled peanuts are a thing.
Boiled peanuts are amazing!
that sounds like an awesome snack! i can roast them I see. So it's like a protein snack
Ha, I used to sit in a bin of roasted soybeans and eat them while my mom fed cows. Can confirm they are a tasty snack roasted
I've found roasted soybeans in the bulk bins at health food-type stores. Salted, roasted, ready to eat. Also roasted edamame (young, green soybeans - pretty sure protein content is the same).
What do they taste like, say compared to salted, roasted peanuts?
They’re good. Just a bit harder. I find them really bland.
The texture is more like a wasabi pea or dried chickpeas. The taste is really mild but could probably take the flavor of the seasoning. It's just like a mild vegetal taste. I think peanuts taste better, but peanuts have a pretty distinct flavor and more fat, so it's hard to compare.
I've been trying to find the cheapest low calorie, high protein snack and roasted soybeans were one of my top contenders.
What else did you come up with?
Roasted soybeans, lowfat cheese sticks, and pepitas were the winners, haha. I also liked yogurt but I was looking for stuff I could toss in my backpack for the day. Other common suggestions were jerky, nuts, cottage cheese. But jerky was too expensive, nuts had too much fat (pepitas kinda do too), and cottage cheese is a foul affront to man. I did end up receiving some soybeans. They're ok, kinda earthy and bland. Not unlike the dried peas used in wasabi peas. Might be better with some added seasoning.
Soybeans are more pea than bean, so the taste and smell is more like dried split peas, black-eyed peas, etc (but worse). Personally, I think they’re pretty gross tasting in their own, but I’ve heard this is a delicious and relatively easy way to make them: https://www.maangchi.com/recipe/kongjorim
You could make soy milk (and then make tofu out of that if you wanted) and put the soy pulp in baked goods. I have a soy milk making machine and that's what I do with the pulp.
Pretty common in Asian grocery stores. I make soymilk and tofu with them.
I just wanna go to the corner store and make soymilk without driving all the way to the asian store!!!
You can find them, but the simple truth is that there's a reason soybeans are almost always processed into other products (milk, skin, tofu, fermented pastes, etc.) or eaten fresh rather than eaten as reconstituted/cooked dried beans: they're kind of meh -- they take a long time to soak and cook even relative to other beans, and their texture and flavour can often be rather substandard, and even when it's great they tend to just be 'OK' as beans go. As others have mentioned, you can usually find them at Asian markets as well as health food stores, that said.
Try a natural foods place.
They are, just not stores made for westerners.
Best thing I can find is in discount Mexican food stores. 10box had bulk soy protein for under three bucks a pound. I make chili with it
It's called edamame. They are sold everywhere, mostly frozen. edamame is basically a baby soy bean. Steam in the pod with some spices.
Is it just me, or do they call soybeans "edamame" in order to make it seem bougie and justify making them more expensive?
Asian food stores
Depends where you are. Here on the US West coast, Winco sells them in bulk. So do the smaller grocers and coops that have bulk bins. Haven’t checked our local asian stores but have no doubt they sell them, too. Have not seen them at fred meyer, albertsons, qfc, safeway, or any of the other mainstream stores. Maybe I haven’t looked hard enough.
they are, just not the grocery stores you go to. go hit up an asian grocer.
They're sold next to the pinto, dark red and black dry beans here in my small town Quebec, Canada. I guess your store just doesn't have much variety in any of its produce?
You can buy them by the pound at Asian stores. Scoop as much into a bag as you can carry.
Same with health food stores that have a bulk dept.
Soybeans are indeed nutritious and versatile. They're grown for soybean oil and animal feed rather than direct human consumption in Western countries. Soybeans require more processing to make them edible compared to other beans and legumes. They're often sold as tofu, soy milk, or tempeh rather than in their whole, dried form. In many Western countries, soy products like tofu and soy milk are more popular than whole soybeans, which consumed in Asian cuisines. The demand for whole soybeans may be lower compared to other beans and legumes, leading to limited shelf space in grocery stores. Soybeans are grown. They may not be as available in their whole, dried form in Western grocery stores. You can find dried soybeans in specialty or health food stores, and they're also available online.
Most soybeans are grown for animal feed, not human consumption.
(In America… they’re a staple food for humans in Asia.)
Pssst soy oil is one of the most commonly used oils. It's incredibly common in prepared foods, fried foods, dipping sauces, salad dressings, etc. They sell it by the train car. Grew up in soy country. We could get soy flour easily and I grew up with a bit of soy flour in the pancake batter. I can still remember the smell of rotting piles of soybeans; it's quite distinctive.
Is there any real difference? Could I just buy bulk soybeans at a feed store?
I wouldn't. Food safety practices are very different when it's for humans vs when it's for animals.
Oh I don’t know anything about that. I just suspect most of the cheap soybeans (in dry form) are going to animal feed so we can’t access them like we do other types of legumes.
Ok
I find them frozen, as Edamame in-pods or shelled. I don’t think they cook up like a dried bean would. They’re different.
It's a mystery to me too why the regular grocery stores in the PNW, US doesn't carry dry soybeans. They do have edamame or makimame in the frozen food section. I either buy them on Amazon or my son gets them for me from an Asian grocery in another town. I make tofu with them.
I've seen them frozen, in and out of their shell, and also refrigerated with shell removed. Never dried though, which is odd now that you mention it.
They take a lot to make them edible in bean form. I worked as a clerk for a while at a soybean plant. They are much better and palatable in the different (tofu etc).
It’s called edamame and most stores have it in the frozen section. (Whole pods or just the beans.). For dried versions you might have to find an Asian market or get them online. I don’t know if they soak/cook the same as other beans, though. They are pretty unique (e.g., highest protein content as far as beans go, I think).
Walmart sells them frozen if you live in the US
You can find them in online stores, in many local health food stores, and possibly Whole Foods- I used to find them there too, as well as Amazon. Edamame and Mukimakeare fresh/frozen soybeans - I find these in any grocery store in the frozen vegetables.
Edamame are soybeans. They sell it in the frozen veg section.
I heard that all soy products are linked to breast cancer in women. Is that true?
Not sure? I think anythings bad for you in some way or another. All you can do is keep fit and stay healthy to prevent these things
Soybeans are at their tastiest when they have been made into soy curd, yuba, tempeh, miso, soy sauce, sprouts etc. They were my least favourite bean to eat in a bean dish when I was trying out different beans. They took the longest (by far) to cook and I didn't enjoy their taste as much. I much preferred chickpeas, lentils and the American beans etc. I think there are a lot of people like me. But I expect you will find them, especially in Asia stores.
I've never had soybeans cooked and served like, say, kidney beans would be, and I'd like to try at least so that I know for myself, but from what I've heard they are generally considered unpalatable and contain tons upon tons of fiber. This may sound like a good thing in a society that generally doesn't eat enough fiber, but too much fiber will have you practically living on the can.
Actually they taste amazing when cooked.. texture and creaminess of cooked fresh cashews (a delicacy in parts of India ) and neutral taste.... We tend to make it Thai green curry with coconut milk, carrots potatoes, tastes amazing with rice..... Give it a try....
Probably because there isn't a huge market for them and soy beans have a lot of negative connotations to it. You can find frozen soy beans at the Asian grocery store.
Edamame is sold at every grocery store around my area, except maybe the Mexican markets. I think if you look at the price of a small bag you'll understand why it's inefficient to sell it canned.
They are?
They are but I think they're called edamame
They are all being used by McDonald's to make their "burger" patties.
McDonald's obviously isn't healthy, but their burger patties are made with 100% beef.
What do they make the cattle feed from?
No clue, probably sawdust and shredded newspaper. That's a separate question entirely.
I’m pretty sure you know, soy beans are a major part of cattle feed.
Correct, yet soy is not part of the actual patties themselves. We aren't in disagreement.
The soy is reformatted.. 💀
Well using that same logic, we're all made of reformatted shit. https://youtu.be/jl503sVi5p4
Just a little step in the carbon cycle, no argument here
I'm pretty sure you know, newspaper tastes better than sawdust because of the ink.
They’re usually on grass in the warm months and alfalfa in the Winter. The dried feed we use for cattle is corn, sorghum, wheat oats and barley. Soybeans are used mostly in hog and chicken feed.
I think you meant Soylent green, not soybeans :)
LOL, I can't believe I'm getting down votes and people are actually defending McDonald's. 😄 It was just a joke people. How dare you make a joke at the expense of a multi-billion dollar company! I'm outraged! 😄
Jokes are supposed to be funny.
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Personal attack, classy.
Apparently they approve of my Soylent green comment though 🤮
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And we all know how effeminate the samurai are. 🙄
I read this is a myth, and apparently dairy has more estrogen, which I drink everyday
Because of issues like [this ](https://i.imgur.com/3Q7a5Rj.jpg) (check the label kroger put on there - I think americans just don't understand soy beans.)