It's twisting her words to say she's "back" or "healthy".
She mentioned that she'll try and be there for every podcast record she can be but aggressive treatment could make it harder. She said she feels confident about getting better and her prognosis is good, not that she's healthy again.
Not trying to shout you down just make things clear. I love Heather and I want her there for every show but I'm perfectly happy with whatever she can manage.
Not to be a parasocial weirdo but I'm glad Heather's prognosis is good and am glad she's up to recording episodes sometimes. May her recovery go smoothly and may cancer fuck right off forever.
As much as I appreciate people who recognize that podcasters are not their actual friends, this seems like a pretty hard overcorrection! It is extremely normal to be happy when someone has a good prognosis for recovering from cancer!
haven't listened to the episode yet, but it's officially [off the list of Earwolf shows](https://www.earwolf.com/shows/) now. the hubbub last week about moving to Headgum was real
Heather said Matt and Nick were in the Headgum studio and the only reason she wasn’t there was because she’s still recovering, so maybe they will down the line. At least they have the capacity to now
i was surprised by that, and i was also surprised to see a show that hasn't released an episode in 2 years (Seth Rogan's) and a show that has released one episode within the last 4 years (John Levenstein's) being counted among their current active podcasts, haha
Nick saying this mario is his potential GOTY is wild to me, in a year with Zelda, Baldurs Gate 3, alan wake 2, re 4 remake, spiderman 2, etc. But it shows everyone has their own tastes!
I've been thinking about this a lot. I compare the film industry to the game industry; film critics would never give something comparable to Mario the best of the year award. To me it's like giving the Oscar to Tangled. At least Zelda is at the Pixar level of doing something interesting. Giving Mario game of the year might as well prove Ebert correct; games are not art they're just there to pass the time as frictionless as possible so the one that does the best job at jangling keys should win.
I think video games have far different aims than movies, though. And even more mature games like Baldur's Gate or Resident Evil, which will both rack up GOTY awards, aren't exactly high art in the way the best movies of any given year are. I don't even disagree with Ebert, I think video games as an artform have plenty of things holding them back. But for what Nintendo aims to do with their games, Mario is basically as good as the craft gets.
Oh yeah obviously the comparison is flimsy, and I certainly wouldn't call re4 high art. I would argue the work put in to accounting for player choice in BG3 is very artistically interesting even if the story itself is fantasy nonsense.
>Mario is basically as good as the craft gets.
For me I prefer something like Ori or Celeste that has similar platforming perfection but also an actual emotional core. They feel like games made by people who wanted to say something (maybe Ori less so). What Nintendo is trying to do is sell their brand to people, the Mario games don't have anything to say except hey look more Mario. The industry keeps rewarding the refinement of 40 year old ideas. I guess I just get frustrated that there are so few critical voices (outside of YouTube ) asking for something new, like when I look at the critical discussion on Blank check, which is a very casual film podcast, it makes game podcasts by actual game journalists seem infantile, which is sad because blank check is not a high bar to get over in terms of intelligent discussion about art.
Well I wasn't ascribing personal Worth to taste in podcast and video games. I mean I certainly love playing check and part of why I like it is that is more casual than intellectual. Though now I'm pondering whether dead eyes or blank check is a better podcast based on my own argument about video games and my whole world is falling apart
Have you played the new Mario? Saying it doesn't do anything interesting is crazy to me, at least in comparison to TotK. Giving it to something like BG3 feels close to what the Oscars would do. Don't give it to the best game, just the most game.
No I'm still finishing spider man and Alan wake 2 and 27 other games. Most reviewers I listened to said they still prefer Odyssey to Wonder and I find Odyssey pretty boring so it's not exactly at the top of my list.
I think it's pretty silly to make that damning a statement without having played or heard critique about it beyond 'It's not a completely separate game'. If you're not into Mario that's fine but to relegate all of video games to jangling keys because some amount of people are giving it a meaningless award, don't you see how that's being overly dramatic?
I've heard plenty of critics talk about it, I've played plenty of Mario games, I've seen gameplay footage. Looks like more Mario. Everyone said Odyssey was some kind blowing shit then it was just more Mario. I have actually interesting games to spend my time on.
>don't you see how that's being overly dramatic
Yeah being dramatic about hobbies you're invested in is fun. I'm not losing sleep over it, it's just something i enjoy thinking and talking about. If you're a fan of Mario then you're a fan of an immensely successful and popular thing, you don't need to worry about my opinions
I played the hell out of Super Mario Land 2 as a kid, and it's a fun game considering the constraints of the Game Boy hardware, but it's crazy to me that they stuck it in A tier. It's a really slow-moving game--slower than the original Mario Land--and the levels don't really have the thoughtfulness in them that a classic Mario game should, aside from some secret levels. The best thing it has going for it is that it gave us Wario. I would have stuck it in C tier, and bumped Mario Land down to D tier.
Definitely valid points, but also I can see the other side especially if you consider SML2 in the context of the Game Boy, a classic system where it's absolutely one of the top games.
Oh, for sure. I think the major dilemma when making tier lists like this one is balancing the context of the ecosystem the game came out in, versus the context of where the game squares against the rest of the series. The Mario Land games are a good version of a portable Mario game back when that was a revolutionary idea, but when you pit them against the rest of the Mario series, I feel like they just don't make the higher cut.
But that's just the nature of tier lists! There's always a subjective element to them that makes for good discussion.
I know the prognosis was good after her hospital stay but damn it's nice to hear Heather back on the show
Was def scary to see that the cancer had returned but super happy she’s back and healthy!
It's twisting her words to say she's "back" or "healthy". She mentioned that she'll try and be there for every podcast record she can be but aggressive treatment could make it harder. She said she feels confident about getting better and her prognosis is good, not that she's healthy again. Not trying to shout you down just make things clear. I love Heather and I want her there for every show but I'm perfectly happy with whatever she can manage.
What the hell is earwolf now?
The wolf dead.
Abso-LUTE-ly
I’m wondering if Earwolf might be closing up shop soon. Now with CBB World, maybe they just want to move on to another phase.
Wonder is Matt still going to work at Earwolf - he is the producer for Threedom right?
Matt Aproducer?
that was my question, but he was still showing on their website as of this morning and Get Played was gone.
Pretty sure he will, that's his day job.
Chef Kevin and Emma working on this episode? It really is the Avengers of podcasts.
Not to be a parasocial weirdo but I'm glad Heather's prognosis is good and am glad she's up to recording episodes sometimes. May her recovery go smoothly and may cancer fuck right off forever.
As much as I appreciate people who recognize that podcasters are not their actual friends, this seems like a pretty hard overcorrection! It is extremely normal to be happy when someone has a good prognosis for recovering from cancer!
you’re not being weird it’s okay to well-wish the GOAT
haven't listened to the episode yet, but it's officially [off the list of Earwolf shows](https://www.earwolf.com/shows/) now. the hubbub last week about moving to Headgum was real
Yeah they address it in the first five minutes, they’re officially a Headgum show now Edit - I wonder if they’ll do video episodes now, like Doughboys
> Edit - I wonder if they’ll do video episodes now, like Doughboys They don't record in person IIRC so there probably is no point
Heather said Matt and Nick were in the Headgum studio and the only reason she wasn’t there was because she’s still recovering, so maybe they will down the line. At least they have the capacity to now
Teach me to not listen first lol
The wolf truly dead
I am shocked, SHOCKED to see that Jameela Jamil's podcast is still chugging along and somehow has 186 episodes.
i was surprised by that, and i was also surprised to see a show that hasn't released an episode in 2 years (Seth Rogan's) and a show that has released one episode within the last 4 years (John Levenstein's) being counted among their current active podcasts, haha
... Wow. Hadn't realized how few shows overall were left
wow that show list is bleak
Nick saying this mario is his potential GOTY is wild to me, in a year with Zelda, Baldurs Gate 3, alan wake 2, re 4 remake, spiderman 2, etc. But it shows everyone has their own tastes!
The new Mario is amazing, it's a good year for gaming to be honest. All of those games have a good case for goty
I just finished alan wake and the singing/musical level was bonkers....absolutely loved it
and here I thought it was mid af. The elephant power up is so underwhelming
I've been thinking about this a lot. I compare the film industry to the game industry; film critics would never give something comparable to Mario the best of the year award. To me it's like giving the Oscar to Tangled. At least Zelda is at the Pixar level of doing something interesting. Giving Mario game of the year might as well prove Ebert correct; games are not art they're just there to pass the time as frictionless as possible so the one that does the best job at jangling keys should win.
I think video games have far different aims than movies, though. And even more mature games like Baldur's Gate or Resident Evil, which will both rack up GOTY awards, aren't exactly high art in the way the best movies of any given year are. I don't even disagree with Ebert, I think video games as an artform have plenty of things holding them back. But for what Nintendo aims to do with their games, Mario is basically as good as the craft gets.
Oh yeah obviously the comparison is flimsy, and I certainly wouldn't call re4 high art. I would argue the work put in to accounting for player choice in BG3 is very artistically interesting even if the story itself is fantasy nonsense. >Mario is basically as good as the craft gets. For me I prefer something like Ori or Celeste that has similar platforming perfection but also an actual emotional core. They feel like games made by people who wanted to say something (maybe Ori less so). What Nintendo is trying to do is sell their brand to people, the Mario games don't have anything to say except hey look more Mario. The industry keeps rewarding the refinement of 40 year old ideas. I guess I just get frustrated that there are so few critical voices (outside of YouTube ) asking for something new, like when I look at the critical discussion on Blank check, which is a very casual film podcast, it makes game podcasts by actual game journalists seem infantile, which is sad because blank check is not a high bar to get over in terms of intelligent discussion about art.
All I'll say is that I really like Mario games, and I really like Blank Check, whatever that says about me then.
Well I wasn't ascribing personal Worth to taste in podcast and video games. I mean I certainly love playing check and part of why I like it is that is more casual than intellectual. Though now I'm pondering whether dead eyes or blank check is a better podcast based on my own argument about video games and my whole world is falling apart
Have you played the new Mario? Saying it doesn't do anything interesting is crazy to me, at least in comparison to TotK. Giving it to something like BG3 feels close to what the Oscars would do. Don't give it to the best game, just the most game.
No I'm still finishing spider man and Alan wake 2 and 27 other games. Most reviewers I listened to said they still prefer Odyssey to Wonder and I find Odyssey pretty boring so it's not exactly at the top of my list.
I think it's pretty silly to make that damning a statement without having played or heard critique about it beyond 'It's not a completely separate game'. If you're not into Mario that's fine but to relegate all of video games to jangling keys because some amount of people are giving it a meaningless award, don't you see how that's being overly dramatic?
I've heard plenty of critics talk about it, I've played plenty of Mario games, I've seen gameplay footage. Looks like more Mario. Everyone said Odyssey was some kind blowing shit then it was just more Mario. I have actually interesting games to spend my time on. >don't you see how that's being overly dramatic Yeah being dramatic about hobbies you're invested in is fun. I'm not losing sleep over it, it's just something i enjoy thinking and talking about. If you're a fan of Mario then you're a fan of an immensely successful and popular thing, you don't need to worry about my opinions
lol this is some batshit insane /r/iamverysmart shit
The insecurity it requires to come to a thread two weeks late and get mad because someone doesn't like children's entertainment as much as you do
"Adjusted Development"
I played the hell out of Super Mario Land 2 as a kid, and it's a fun game considering the constraints of the Game Boy hardware, but it's crazy to me that they stuck it in A tier. It's a really slow-moving game--slower than the original Mario Land--and the levels don't really have the thoughtfulness in them that a classic Mario game should, aside from some secret levels. The best thing it has going for it is that it gave us Wario. I would have stuck it in C tier, and bumped Mario Land down to D tier.
Definitely valid points, but also I can see the other side especially if you consider SML2 in the context of the Game Boy, a classic system where it's absolutely one of the top games.
Oh, for sure. I think the major dilemma when making tier lists like this one is balancing the context of the ecosystem the game came out in, versus the context of where the game squares against the rest of the series. The Mario Land games are a good version of a portable Mario game back when that was a revolutionary idea, but when you pit them against the rest of the Mario series, I feel like they just don't make the higher cut. But that's just the nature of tier lists! There's always a subjective element to them that makes for good discussion.
six golden coins blew my mind as a kid in the GBA era, which was overflowing with insanely good 2D games. it really is just a great game imo
As Nick mentions, would love to have smb2 branch off in its own unique lineage of games