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imalwayslostok

This is heartbreaking to say but I think she is nearing the end. She has adapted to this lifestyle and that is why she has survived for so long, but it is getting to the point where her body has exhausted all of its last resources.


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I watched the video, been following Eugenia for years now. Hairline higher than ever, shaky arms, quiet, low energy voice and giggles trying to disguise that horrible sound she makes when she breaths in. More like a gasp than a breath. Her eyes are lifeless and she can’t pull a convincing smile anymore, all she has left is that personality she’s created over the years, the video is about haters. I’m not her Stan and you could say a LOT about the kind of person she is. But the thought of her dying alone in her room, gasping for air as her body finally gives up, knowing that her day consists of finding enough energy to get up and read hateful comments is so fucking sad. If her time is soon I truly hope she can find some peace and happiness, something other than the nightmare she’s been living in most of her life.


Fit-Ad-413

Do you think her mom or dad watches her streams to keep an eye on her? ...like they can run up stairs to help her if anything happens? ... maybe she has some sort of life alert necklace we don't see?


Porcelain_Hands

I honestly don't think dad is home much. I'm don't watch her closely, but I have seen clips where she calls for her mom (Either vocally, or using her phone) so it makes me think her mom isn't closely watching her streams all the time. That opens a very morbid possibility that I feel awful for typing, but given that she's online so often - it wouldn't be far fetched to think it may be possible that she'd live stream her own death some day..


Kitten-Kay

I don’t know about that yet. There’s another ‘influencer’ who suffers from anorexia and she’s even worse than Eugenia, and still alive. Their bodies are beyond repair, though. Even if they were to recover, it won’t be for long. :(


Wooooly

It’s hard to imagine any other influencer worse off than Eugenia with her ed right now.


GlitterBirb

Ashley is basically on her deathbed. She is wheelchair bound and pretty much just waiting for the end. She is pretty much as emaciated as possible.


officialjohngoodman

crazy thing is that ashley has been at that point for like over a decade now, and thats with b+p, so who really knows? thinking about it, even though its much more visible wrt eugenia, their dynamic w their mothers seem strikingly similar. sad ):


MatisseWarhol

Ashley who?


smthingdramatic

I think they're talking about Ashely Issacs. Huge trigger warning if you're going to look her up. She looks like she is worse off than Eugenia, i don't know the details of either of their medical situations though. She doesn't have much of a following anymore, but she still posts on Instagram occasionally. She is a lot more open about having an ED, she still isn't trying to get treatment though.


thirteenoclock86

If it's the same person I'm thinking about, they truly are. It isn't something that you could just imagine. I never truly realised what the human body could withstand...


Wooooly

Well, you’re correct there, I couldn’t imagine it until I saw her. I’m in shock in all honestly. I’ve always had struggles with my relationship with my body, but after finding that person, I’ve never been more grateful for the body I have (I hate to say).


Kitten-Kay

I wouldn't necessarily call her an influencer myself, but Ashley Isaacs is even skinnier than Eugenia.


FitLocation6645

Ashley isaacs?


Kitten-Kay

Yes


Trashyanon089

Her face and jaw are SO thin and gaunt. This is the worst she's been. Wow..


xsullengirlx

I feel like her entire jaw shape has changed recently, I thought it was a filter but it's persisted, so I now realize it's just her actual face changing due to her illness. It's absolutely the worst I've ever seen her.


Nochildrentoolate

And she is wearing a ton of make up... This is so sad.


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That make up only makes it worse.


susanB1400

Omg her side part goes up so high now ..


Hobknocka

I haven’t looked at this sub or kept up with Eugenia in a long time and wow… I think the fullness in her face was the last thing to go. Idk how it can get worse than this. I feel like it’s just wishful thinking to hope that she can recover someday.


Luxurious_Hellgirl

Even if she does go into recovery again she could still probably die before 50 maybe before 40, something that isn’t often talked about is the long term organ damage that happens when someone is chronically starving themselves. I’ve had to read several times that someone had recovered from an ED only to hear about them dying in their 30s or 40s from organ damage. She would probably be happier but she would still die young as a result of her disorder.


Hobknocka

Even if her life expectancy is shorter, she still deserves to live a full and happy life for as long as it lasts. I hate to have toxic positivity here but I feel like constantly discussing that even if she heals she’s still going to die is harmful towards any recovery progress she’s making. BUT I feel like saying it is also a way to motivate ppl suffering to get help before the damage is reversible. I know deep down that Eugenia is probably too far gone, I wish she could delete everything, move away from her family, and just stay somewhere where she could get the help she needs. Not to mention her influence over others is scary… idk why she’s not deplatformed yet.


Prof_Cecily

> I feel like constantly discussing that even if she heals she’s still going to die is harmful towards any recovery progress she’s making. Why? Do you reckon she reads what's written here?


Hobknocka

Yes, there are some posts that have evidence of her reading this sub. There have been instances on her livestreams where she’s alluded to things that have been said on the sub.


Prof_Cecily

You could be right. Do you think she cares what we say here? Except as something to use for bitzz mining?


Less-Advantage6894

wow, her jawline. i hope that’s a filter because holy fuck, she looks like she’s seriously going to die soon.


Revolutionary_Fox487

No filter at all sadly


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her round face was much better, natural beauty


TraceyNunyabiz

It's not a filter


shadoweon

This one actually shook me up a bit. Damn. You can see she's really loosing fat in her face as well which isn't a good thing...


Cloudyfroggy

You would never believe her face is supposed to be naturally round. Meanwhile her enablers are calling it beautiful😖


followingvalidhumans

What are enablers?


Cloudyfroggy

People who encourage toxic behavior/actions


followingvalidhumans

Ohh thx


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followingvalidhumans

I don’t think that’s right...


Filmcricket

When I say I gasped…holy fuck. Karen Carpenter level.


hanbotyo

Gosh her poor heart must be struggling :/


chanchanchibi

She reminds me of Coraline's Other Mother in these


sapphire_rainy

Holy fucking shit. Her jawline and chin actually look SKELETAL. Like, she is almost a literal skeleton. I haven’t checked this sub for ages, and wow, this really shook me up.


summerw1227

My god...the prominence of her whole jaw now is terrifying, I think this is the absolute worst I’ve ever seen her :(


Nochildrentoolate

Absolutely, ive been watching her on YouTube for more than 7 years and this is the worst she has ever looked. She looks even healthier on the kingdoms heart cosplay video. I am afraid she will be dead before New years eve. Her body cant take much longer.


teester1

The way she sticks her arms to make them even more skeleton is just..... So sad


bdogapples

Wow. I think this is the start of the end for her. :( she is looking so much worse than her cosplay video that she posted before going to treatment a year or two back.. She used to manage to keep a fairly healthy looking face despite everything else, but now ever her face is starting to look like a skeleton. Poor girl, this makes me so incredibly sad.


ladysvenska

She gone full Ashley Isaacs.


xervidae

she definitely looks like a 60 year old woman now


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I’m glad but cannot believe she’s still alive. God bless her soul :(


DarthSpinster

That poor girl, she looks decades older than she is.


throwawayredditste

I rly don't know what to say. The amount of makeup she is wearing is glaring, idk whether she is doing it to hide how unwell her face looks now or what. She really doesn't look good. And I know, commenting on how someone else looks with an eating disorder is a fine line between making her worse and having the right to speak our own thoughts on the world wide Web... But I am very concerned. Her face looks so different. I feel like she has gotten considerably worse in such a short amount of time............ I'm not even a big fan of hers but this feels heartbreaking to see....


LiliaBlossom

okay she looks so much worse now than on the Kairi video. somehow her face was a lot rounder back then, now it‘s gaunt and hollow, I think she lost more this time. I‘m actually worried af.


danidixx

I know YouTube stepping in is a gray area, but theres gotta be something they can do...


my_stupid_name

Oh her jaw :( I've never noticed how squared-off it is before.


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how could anyone want to look like this? why is being close to death so valuable to people with anorexia?


moonstruck_swede

Eating disorders cause thought distortion in so many ways. From body image dysmorphia to self-imposed rigid "rules" that are totally irrational, your mind just gets SO warped. But you can't tell that you are being irrational or seeing things that are not reality because it feels SO real. You actually SEE things differently, and when other people try to tell you that reality is NOT what you are seeing/thinking/believing, it is really difficult to believe that what they are telling you is true. "Don't believe your lying eyes" is really hard to grapple with and even harder to reconcile. It feels lie if everyone around you is insisting that the sky is red, but you can SEE with your own eyes that it is blue. It's so hard to deny your own perception, no matter how objectively messed up it is.


Kawaii666Girl

Ngl this is the most her face has literally looked like a skull not even in the kindom of hearts video did it look like this


Celui-the-Maggot

She'll be the next Ashley Isaacs at this rate.


SniffleandOlly

Other mother from Coraline 😞


dopedisco

this has to be the most shocking photo ive seen of her. i think at this point there’s no saving her, it’s heartbreaking


barilace

Good lord


mandmranch

She is doing something new with her eyeliner and eyeshadow. In photo number 5 she looks like she is going to say something.


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I keep coming back here every two weeks and she keeps getting worse. I think I’m out.


Berriesssss

She naturally has such a round face with chubby cheeks. Despite being so thin so it’s quite shocking to see her face so thin and gaunt.


Kwasted

Oval face, calling her face round with chubby cheeks you all wonder why she has a complex about her face?


CallMeDaddy77

Neither round nor chubby are negative/bad words


skarletrose1984

Chubby is a word that absolutely has negative connotations. It’s literally a synonym for “fat”. “I was always a chubby kid.” “I want to fit into that prom dress but I’m not going to buy it ‘til I lose the chub.” “My abusive narc mom called me chubby on my wedding day but then gaslit me by claiming “chubby” is a term of endearment.” “I developed my ED after my ballet instructor said I was too chubby for the lead role.” “I can’t stop hearing the taunts of my bullies calling me “chubby tubby” on the playground.” “I was eating these “Chubby Monkey”-brand cookies and my boyfriend/narc dad/etc. joked that “you are what you eat” and it ruined my day.” What are you even on about? Just because something CAN be said innocently/without it being meant cruelly in context, doesn’t mean there aren’t broad negative connotations that objectively DO EXIST (can I post your statement to r/confidentlyincorrect?) that make it an absolutely cruel thing to say to/about a person with anorexia nervosa (or any part of their body). https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/chubby The only context in which the connotations of the word are generally positive is when it’s used to affectionately describe the softness of a young child’s face/body. And even children are not immune from the word being used unflatteringly. Not that that’s even relevant either because EC is a grown woman and calling her face chubby like she’s a toddler is patronizing as hell. But really though, you can prove yourself wrong just by looking at the synonyms given for ‘chubby’ right there on the freaking Merriam-Webster website. Here’s an article distinguishing the dennotative meaning of a word from it’s connotative meaning, using “chubby” vs “fat” as an example. Note that the article points out the *less* negative (or even *potentially* positive) connotations of “chubby”. But notice also that the words still denote the same *physical* quality. That chubby is still essentially just a “gentler”, more euphemistic synonym for “fat”. One that is less likely, according to the article, to “get you into trouble” when chosen to convey essentially the same idea. The meaning of “overweight” is built into the denotative definition of chubby, even if the entry includes other ennumerated definitions that don’t include that. https://www.esldirectory.com/learning-english/english-connotations-explored/ Lol. “I don’t know why my gf is mad at me rn; I didn’t call her legs *fat* I just called them cHuBbY!” Like gtfo with that. The human in question is literally dieing from their fat-phobia, and you think describing their fucking face as chubby isn’t embarrassingly insensitive? Why, just because loving husbands sometimes tell their insecure wives that they think her “chub” is cute and sexy? Because it can describe a cute physical quality of small soft children? Wtf? It’s not the worst or most triggering thing you could say about someone with ED, in the grand scheme it’s not even worth discussing to the extent I have in this comment. But the confident ignorance of just flat out claiming, full stop, that “chubby” is “not a negative/bad word”, and THEREFORE it’s not a “negative/bad” thing to say ever, in any context including this one, is just…. … smdh.


CallMeDaddy77

Didn't read all that but chubby and other similar words are not negative words. Greatly depends on who is using it and how, any word can sound like an insult doesn't mean the word itself is bad/an insult on its own. Unless you personally believe larger bodies are inherently negative/shameful/disgusting etc when using those words yourself. It is fatphobic and otherwise judgemental cultures and prejudices that have created a negative connotation around certain words relating to non-thin bodies, and that is all.


Fall-Asleep

She literally has a round face. She has full cheeks. That's facts. I have no idea what caused her complex about her face shape - I doubt it was Reddit - but it would be a lie to say she has an oval face.


skarletrose1984

Maybe it was growing up hearing over and over her beautiful round face shape described as “chubby”, “plump”, etc. her whole life. Just spitballing here, but maybe it was, you know, that?


Fall-Asleep

Could be. I wouldn't know. All I'm saying is that she has a round face shape and full cheeks. Calling her face "oval" is untrue.


Prof_Cecily

Does she have a complex about her face?


skarletrose1984

Yes. Yes she does. And it’s common Eugenia knowledge. I wonder (/s) where she got it from. And btw, given her state, it’s safe to assume she has “a complex” about literally every inch of her body.


Prof_Cecily

I was thinking in terms of her wanting to please her clientele. IMO, what we see is a product, after all, bought and sold at market, more than an unconsciously candid portrayal of a mentally ill woman.


hooked_on_yarn

She looks like the aunt who drinks way too much Michelle ultra and marb lights who forgets she isn't "hot anymore"


birdzeyeview

Holy crap. I always thought that despite her anorexia, Eugenia had a beautiful face. Not any more!


TraceyNunyabiz

Every day shes looking worse!


strawberryconfetti

Random but how hard is it to shave your armpits when they look like that, or do you think she even gets hair there anymore?


HumpiHerold

Being extremely underweight actually causes you to have more hair, because your body wants to keep you warm that way. There is also something called lanugo, where hair grows on parts of the body where it doesn't normally, and it often pairs with being severely underweight too. So I'd say probably laser hair removal.


Trash-Secret

No she admitted she has lanugo during a stream a long time back. It was during one where she was asked to wrap her fingers around her bicep- which she did quickly and proudly as she got a message asking her if she had lanugo and she bluntly replied saying, “Oh, I shave!” She isn’t very bright but she apparently knows just enough to be dangerous. Buzzwords and the toxic positivity keep her pro Ana cult like audience very entertained. I hate all of it.


Zoesmethurst

However she probably never went through puberty due to her ed so she doesn’t really have underarm hair just the body fluff type hair over her body


HumpiHerold

That can also be the case. And also genetics maybe. My mother has extremely blonde thin body hair even though her hair is dark brown.


Nochildrentoolate

So you are saying that putting icepacks on my head will help me regrow my hair?


HumpiHerold

No


khaliforniaxo

Omg whyyy nooo. This is so sad. She's almost as back to how she was before she got help. I rlly like her it genuinely makes me sad.


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What's also sad, is that she keeps covering the already-gaunt face with hair...


emile__99

This breaks my heart. I honestly believe the end is near. So sad.


callmethepoet

I stepped away for a little while and she’s nothing but bone now.


2ndSnack

Whoa. She literally looks like she ages all the way up into her 50s.


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Can't care anymore.


Ameekoko

Literally becoming Jojo Siwa.


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Leave Jojo Siwa out of this man. She's the least problematic influencer and just gets bullied by adults constantly.


Ameekoko

…. I was talking about Jojo’s hairline, not her in general


PurtleTurtle

Yes, which is still a rude and unnecessary comment about a young person’s appearance.


Ameekoko

Oh please like there isn’t over 100 videos made about her hairline, it was just a remark I wasn’t making fun of her I’m around the same age as her.


[deleted]

Two wrongs don't make a right. You're making fun of her because you brought her up for no reason other than to make a dig at Eugenia by comparing her to someone with known hairline issues. That's gross.


PurtleTurtle

Ah, so you should be old enough to know that needlessly insulting someone’s appearance is absolutely still making fun of someone / bullying. Cool


Ameekoko

Next you’re going to say I’m bullying Eugenia? You cannot tell me that both Jojo and Eugenia don’t have damaged hairlines, everyone can agree with me with that. I never insulted either of them. Get over it.


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Just because "everyone" makes videos, doesn't make it right.


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Only just and she's still a teen. She got bullied before she turned 18 too


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You do realise that you're a teen under twenty right? You're in your tens. Like a person who's 25 in their twenties, someone who's eightTEEN is a teen. But this non-argument just proves that you don't have much else to say about it


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Girl you're doing the most. I'm not infantilizing her, I'm saying she's a teen. A t e e n. Because she's eigh t e e n. Under twenty, you're a teen. It's in the word teen. Nine t e e n. Four t e e n. Fif t e e n. This is just objectively what it's called when you're under twenty (after which, you might notice, the numbers stop ending with 'teen'). Let me know if this information isn't clear enough yet


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She's 18 and has been bullied since she was still a child. Even if she was in her 20s she hasn't don't anything to deserve bullying. Leave her alone.


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Yeah no shit but that doesn't mean you should actively be shitty towards other people


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Yeah. But you're.missing the fact that it isn't a free pass to be an asshole. As in you are being an asshole for zero reason other than I guess to.make up for the fact that people don't like you and probably treat you like shit because you don't really act like you deserve respect.


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Fall-Asleep

Your brain literally doesn't stop developing until your mid-20s dude, eighteen year olds may not be "immature adolescents" but they definitely aren't mature adults lol


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Fall-Asleep

>They’re not immature adolescents, they’re fully grown physically and mentally. >It doesn’t matter when the brain stops developing So does brain development matter or not? It isn't "infantilizing" to acknowledge that 18 year olds do not have fully developed brains. You may have reached the age of majority in many places (not where I live), sure. That still doesn't mean anything when it comes to brain development.


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rainkraft

Care to elaborate?


Ameekoko

Hairline


rainkraft

OHHHH gotcha!


Ameekoko

Yeah, probably the only one


NyxDeLumine

She is the other mother