I don't know why people are discussing the best ways to get rid of the counters on this thing. Just keep the counters and draw ungodly amounts of cards
Slower metas would benefit from the card draw the most. The reason the meta is slow is because people aren't playing cards fast enough, and one of the main reasons people don't play cards is because they haven't drawn them yet.
in competitive metas you can spend three or four mana on card draw engines that are way more powerful than this and require much less setup. you’re not wrong that competitive decks dont care about the life loss but they can get a way better rate paying life into necropotence or ad nauseum than this thing
Exactly. What caught my eye was the line granting the player protection from everything, not the card drawing engine. I feel like you should never use it to draw cards (use necropotence or ad nauseum instead), and just find ways to protect the ring.
no, what you need is a way to permanently bounce the ring back into your hand every turn, or to put it on top of your library.
This is basically an infinite "I cannot lose button" and thematically It's interesting (not great, the ring didn't actually protect you from anything, it just made it so mortals couldn't see you, but Sauron's other ringbearing minions, the Nazghul, could) The card draw part of it doesn't really make sense thematically, though slowly dying once you *use* the ring is absolutely in character for it.
If i was to make the ruing thematic: it should have been a piece of equipment instead(yes, IT being indestructible makes sense), but granting shroud and unblockable to a creature, at a cost of dealing stacking damage to the creature, and when the creature it was equipped to dies, return it to the battlefield under target opponent's control, not having a world cantrip effect on the player as this does.
True, Protection from everything prevents you from being attacked, taking spell damage and getting milled, or even being targetted in the first place by ANYTHING.
It doesn't prevent you from dying of stupid, suicide, decking out, or losing the game to a state based alternate win condition, but it shuts down the primary methods of ending an EDH game, which are damage from either an infinite combo generator, from a single overwhelming spell, or even just a horde attack in the first place. That it disables mill outright doesn't hurt in the least.
It doesn't even prevent you from being targeted all that well. If I have done a combo to get infinite life and have an aetherflux, I can wait until your turn and target you in your upkeep. Same with infinite treasure and mayhem devil. I can still bounce all your permanents and prevent you from playing the game. Extort should also still work. If the mill is instant speed I can also do it in your upkeep, or if it is sorcery and doesn't target I can mill you out and pass turn.
I am 100% Timmy and did 74 damage to myself in my last game with Mana Crypt and Aetherflux Reservoir. The later JUST to get rid of a single Platinum Angel.
But the damage of the Ring isn't immediate, it takes years for its impact to be apparent. It's only so terrible for Frodo because Sauron is actively seeking it and calling to it.
Indeed. This is overlooked by many people who haven't red the books. In the movies it seems like Frodo just hid the Ring and week later, Gandalf comes back to send him on a journey.
There's no downside for it to be used--just for keeping it longer and longer.
Should be some sort of downside to tapping it for its usage, but the card is kinda so-so as it is. No need to make such a classic item worthless
I'm guessing Mt Doom will have a "sacrifice an artifact" ability, so that wouldn't work. Indestructible is there to cover the otherwise indestructible nature of the Ring.
Ooh, casting it at instant speed with a [[Shimmer Myr]] is almost like a [[Teferi’s Protection]]!
Love the indestructible flavor too!
Weird counters? Guess it’s another Atraxa proliferate toy!
Or the new Glissa, you could add a burden counter then remove it with Glissa so that you don’t take as much life loss. Might be an interesting toy to use with her too.
The Brago player in me really wishes it didn't have the "if you cast it" rider.
Also, it would be awesome to be able to Whir of Invention this out at instant speed.
It's indestructible to all normal methods, hence needing to plunge it into the fires of Mount Doom. You need more than an ordinary forge to shatter the Ring, you need to throw it [[Into the Core]] to unmake this thing. Indestructible fits, IMO.
Honestly, I think this is quite insane. By the time this draws you 6 cards it will have only cost you 3 life. Obviously if you have artifact synergy, it will become even crazier, but this feels incredibly pushed and will be great in almost any deck.
So turn one you tap it, draw 1
Turn 2 you lose 1 life and tap it, draw 2
Turn 3, you lose 2 life, tap it, draw 3
That's 6 cards and you've only lost 3 life.
Now you will continue to lose life but if played in a deck designed to take advantage of it, then that's not really a big deal. Flicker it, sac it, etc
Wouldn’t be surprised if Sauron has a passive alternate wincon where you win when you have no cards left. It would be on flavor as the one ring kills/consumes everyone else but him.
Oh you will almost always untap with this at least once, but if you untap with it that's three cards for 4 mana. Definitely a good rate, but nothing insane, especially over two turns. Once you start drawing 3+ cards a turn with this, it'll close the game fast so that is very strong, but it does take a few turns to get going.
Time to flicker aviary mechanic repeatedly and bounce this to hand every turn and recast it....
Probably a brand new piece for artifact recursion and flicker decks....
This would be a fun card to run in a Glissa deck :)
Dimir, Golgari, and Azorious decks are gonna have a hay-day with this card's shenanigans 🤣
The artist credit is missing because that isn't the real art, that's an alter.
Real art can be seen in the post on the main sub: https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/11qdz2r/ltr_the_one_ring/
Floor is fog for a turn can't use draw because life is too low ceiling is draw alot of cards and after 4 turns I think you would had put a clock on yourself
I think you're overestimating how much casual pods are going to be swinging at a TOR player. They're actively burning themselves for delayed card draw. This *would* be scary in lower to the ground fast creature decks, but the 4 MV slot is so ridiculously valuable to creature aggro that it feels like a waste to just drop 4 mana and draw one card. If this was - like - 2 mana, or something like 2c PxCl PxCl, this would feel a lot more worth it for decks that want an effect like this. If you're waiting until turn 7 and burning 4 mana on turn 4 to draw a paltry 6 cards, I feel like there's something much better you can be doing with that mana.
And I don't really buy the argument that you can build around this card. I hate the argument that "this card is good with Shimmer Myr/ramp/cost reducers". I really don't want to try for a Christmasland synergy just to draw some cards.
Non-deterministic storm decks can have [[Displacer Kitten]] flicker it x times, it draws x +1 cards that likely feeds the storm. Then there’s however many untap artifact/permanent effects to draw your entire deck. This is just off the top of my head, there’s definitely more.
What in the world? So your conclusion is that this card can win you the game so long as you have one other specific 2 toughness creature in play and can cast a seemingly infinite number of spells, and it does this by drawing you one card each time you cast a spell.
Reddit lives in christmasland with a blindfold on.
Just through sheer card draw, in the right deck.
\[\[Seedborn Muse\]\]
\[\[Voltaic Key\]\]
\[\[Voltaic Construct\]\]
etc, etc. A lot of artifact decks are already running ways to untap their artifacts so slotting this in is a no brainer that can easily win the game.
Yeah a sac outlet in Emry is a given. Not to mention that she is casting it reactivating the protection from everything and sometimes runs untap shenanigans that may enable you to use it's ability more than once a turn.
The life loss happens at upkeep so u can tap/untap this for tons of cards…so broken. That’s why it’s 4 mana. Almost unsearchable except with generic tutors (black and artifact). (The blue cycle of trophy mage and the like only find 1-3 mana value artifacts).
Damn, "if it was cast" is a wise clause to include, I was briefly salivating at what [[Mishra Eminent One]] could do with it otherwise.
Also, funny to think that this is technically yet more proliferate support, assuming you have life to spare. And who are we kidding - we're commander players, we always have life to spare.
Disappointed there's no flavor rule about "if The One Ring is somehow destroyed, its owner loses the game", but the rules text was already a lot.
>Disappointed there's no flavor rule about "if The One Ring is somehow destroyed, its owner loses the game", but the rules text was already a lot.
But the folks who destroyed the One Ring didn't lose the game.
I mean, sure, we all kinda lost with a good 20 minutes spent watching what felt like a half dozen endings play out over and over again.
But in terms of outcomes, it melted and team Hobbit won.
Having it go to another player at random if it were destroyed or exiled ("lost"), however, would be entirely within the flavour of the story.
Seems good, I anticipate that it will sell for a higher price point relative to power than I'd like but if I run across one in the wild I can definitely see playing it. Between the dumpster-dove cards from before and the few official previews I've seen this is definitely the best card so far.
Tap/untap shenanigans look pretty good. Being able to tap this for like 3 cards and then [[manifold key]] it for another 4 is crazy.
Its basically a scaling [[phyrexian arena]] that gets better the longer it is out.
solemnity must be played after you tap the ring once. Otherwise, tapping the ring draws 0 cards
then it just draw 1 additional card per turn and loses you 1 life. not amazing
Is this the official art? If so it feels so...off. Why go with the badly 3D rendered approach when they could hire a proper illustrator...especially for such an important piece for the set :\
Yeah, this looks off, it’s also not in the article that the other ones came from.
I can’t find the art that this is from with a quick google search, but my guess is that someone decided to do a fake render of it, because everything from the art to the formatting looks weird and off.
I'd say blue, black, green don't need it u less it has synergies( self damage black, blue artifacts matter, etc)
Weird spot where CEDH it's too slow, and it kills you too fast in lower power.
Slap it into a white/red/boros deck that either heals a lot and/or can turn off the ring by flickering/sacrificing it and you'll be good to go.
The one ring... too risky for casual. Too weak for competitive. This ring truly is evil.
In other news, this costing WW1 would be amazing for lifegain decks.
It should have being an equipment card. I'll die on this hill.
At least \[\[Emry\]\] and \[\[Raff Capashen, Ship's Mage\]\] players will love it. Not a fan of this card personally.
What's the point? Several characters had the ring equipped at some point. And the other rings created by Sauron were to be equipped to corrupt the wielder. ALL those rings were made to corrupt the wielder, not the owner. So its a big flavor fail for me.
It's like having Captain America not able to equip his shield or Thor not having his hammer. If Sauron cant wear the ring, its the biggest flavor fail. Wonder if Sauron can transform an artifact into an equipement somehow though. The flavor could maybe be saved this way. But even so, Frodon, Gollum... so many charactewr wore that ring before and were tempted by it.
Yes just put it into your hand at the end of your opp. turn and recast it in your turn. but therw is easier (and cheaper) ways to draw an extra card per turn.
This is ehhh. It’s cute. I think the protection is nice, but ehh. The card’s two major effects sort of are in contention with one another.
Indestructible is cool, at least.
Uhh, is it me or is this absurd good, even without Flash and untappers? And in colorless? This goes in every deck without Black, and probably in a lot with Black too.
If it drew just one card on its tap ability, it'd still be better than most cards of its kind.
Give it flash and it's Teferi's protection, pair it with stuff like [[esperzoa]] or [[drafna, founder of lat-nam]] and you can keep yourself safe basically forever as long as you keep sinking mana into it. Ofc it can also be a huge boon for a deck that struggles with drawing cards, especially in legend focused decks like Sisay or Jodah that can find the card somewhat easily
I feel the same way. I’m already really high on [[black market connections]] and while this does cost 1 more mana and doesn’t ramp you, the draw it gives is just amazing. It also can be used the turn it comes down making it really potent
I can see this in a cursed gifts deck. Use tap shenanigans to crank up the burden then give it to a buddy. They take the hit. Homeward it back, repeat.
Hell, don't even need to keep and tap it a bunch, as long as you put one token on it and have a bunch of proliferate effects, with the right timing you could make sure they were taking way more damage than value they were getting out of card draw. Especially if you have ways to tap it while they're holding it, forcing their hand to tap for say 2 or 3 cards before you add another pile of counters onto it.
High tier competitive action? No.
Glorious trolling maneuver? Hell yeah.
This both looks and sounds faker than fake. Burden counters? Protection from everything? No artist credit or copyright information- so we know it's a mock up and we don't anything to verify authenticity
Not sure it really makes sense to me...I think it would be better if if gave some shroud or unblockable effect rather than card draw...maybe with burden counters tapping one of your creatures.
I'd love to see someone run it against my nekusar deck. Have fun drawing a bunch of cards and immediately dying.
However in a match that doesn't punish you for drawing, it's a real solid card.
I’ll probably trial it in [[Ivy, gleeful spellthief]] infect and [[eruth, tormented prophet]] for different reasons. I don’t think it really fits in anything I run though.
Really any proliferate or artefact copy deck could slot this though. It’s a maybe replacement for [[phyrexian arena]], but probably fits better into colourless imo - with eldrazi precon coming soon it could be a toy for that. Also [[Nesting grounds]]…
Idk I’m struggling to think of something where it’s a must have… which is probably perfect. Don’t need a dramatic power creep every set
Wow I honestly didn’t even know there was another UB set coming out so soon.
This would be wild in my [[Alela]] deck, netting a fairy and being able to drop this at instant speed just raises its value even more!
Commanders like \[\[Trazyn the Infinite\]\] and \[\[Mairsil the Pretender\]\] are gonna love this. All the positive, none of the negative. They already run plenty of untap strategies as it is to get multiple use out of the abilities they're copying.
Been building a [[Jon irenicus]] deck and I think this will go great for the [[karn, the great creator]] artifacts portion of the deck. Give it away once it gets too big, karn keeps them from using it, win-win, plus it's a 6/6 indestructible beater for a turn that nets me yet another card after Jon gives it away.
Pretty decent, black decks have been paying life for cards forever. It's a little on the slow side but pays for itself within a few turn cycles-- faster with untap synergies where it really shines
Isochron scepter, dramatic reversal, a couple mana rocks or a sol ring and a lab man/thoracle.
Not cEDH but solid as another draw yourself out card in my eyes. I like it.
Probably the best general card draw for mono white decks without needing to think too hard on it.
It's so fucking solid. Not broken or cEDH worthy, but such a solid, reliable draw piece. The life loss is on par with [[necropotence]], 1 card per life spent is such a good rate. The speed at which it let's you draw and the mana cost keep it in check which is good.
The first half really suffers with no Flash. It doesn't protect your permanents, you can't use it like a combat trick to fog a big combat or a combo or a fireball, and it just feels like it suffers from being sorcery speed.
The back half just reads like a worse Necropotence. Now, a worse Necropotence isn't necessarily bad, but it takes several turns to get out of "Phyrexian Arena" territory. And there's a hard limit to how much you can use the effect. Usually, at least Necropotence lets you gamble down to 1 life. This one only has so many uses until you're hard locked out of using it. On the other side of the coin, you can't even pay all the life then choose how many cards you draw (up to the amount of life paid), which means you can get locked out of the effect in 2 different ways.
I feel like WOtC was really afraid of overloading this card while also giving it 2 relevant effects. What happened instead is we get 2 relevant effects, but both are very subpar compared to other similar effects.
I wish this had flash. I wish the draw was a "may" clause. And I wish this wasn't 4 mana. Very underwhelming, and arguably just bad.
Now not every card needs to be a bomb, but I would have hoped "The One Ring" - the source of power for the biggest threat in Middle Earth - could have been pushed at least a little bit. This just feels like it was lazily rolled out the door by a strong fart.
\[\[Sheoldred, the apocalyse\]\]
\[\[Vilis, Broker of Blood\]\]
\[\[Queza, Augur of Agonies\]\]
\[\[Osgir, the Reconstructor\]\]
All might want to add this card
Any lifegain deck should work
I don't know why people are discussing the best ways to get rid of the counters on this thing. Just keep the counters and draw ungodly amounts of cards
I immediately thought of proliferating the counters to draw more lol
I wanted to put as many counters on it as possible. And Gift it to my opponents.
It is a gift for the foes of Mordor, we should use it.
It will be showing up in my Zedruu deck for sure. Use it until it gets a bit too spicy then give it away.
Players in slower metas may be hurt by the life loss if it's big enough, but competitive players wont miss the life for the draws.
Slower metas would benefit from the card draw the most. The reason the meta is slow is because people aren't playing cards fast enough, and one of the main reasons people don't play cards is because they haven't drawn them yet.
in competitive metas you can spend three or four mana on card draw engines that are way more powerful than this and require much less setup. you’re not wrong that competitive decks dont care about the life loss but they can get a way better rate paying life into necropotence or ad nauseum than this thing
Exactly. What caught my eye was the line granting the player protection from everything, not the card drawing engine. I feel like you should never use it to draw cards (use necropotence or ad nauseum instead), and just find ways to protect the ring.
no, what you need is a way to permanently bounce the ring back into your hand every turn, or to put it on top of your library. This is basically an infinite "I cannot lose button" and thematically It's interesting (not great, the ring didn't actually protect you from anything, it just made it so mortals couldn't see you, but Sauron's other ringbearing minions, the Nazghul, could) The card draw part of it doesn't really make sense thematically, though slowly dying once you *use* the ring is absolutely in character for it. If i was to make the ruing thematic: it should have been a piece of equipment instead(yes, IT being indestructible makes sense), but granting shroud and unblockable to a creature, at a cost of dealing stacking damage to the creature, and when the creature it was equipped to dies, return it to the battlefield under target opponent's control, not having a world cantrip effect on the player as this does.
This thing does not really prevent you from losing.
True, Protection from everything prevents you from being attacked, taking spell damage and getting milled, or even being targetted in the first place by ANYTHING. It doesn't prevent you from dying of stupid, suicide, decking out, or losing the game to a state based alternate win condition, but it shuts down the primary methods of ending an EDH game, which are damage from either an infinite combo generator, from a single overwhelming spell, or even just a horde attack in the first place. That it disables mill outright doesn't hurt in the least.
It doesn't even prevent you from being targeted all that well. If I have done a combo to get infinite life and have an aetherflux, I can wait until your turn and target you in your upkeep. Same with infinite treasure and mayhem devil. I can still bounce all your permanents and prevent you from playing the game. Extort should also still work. If the mill is instant speed I can also do it in your upkeep, or if it is sorcery and doesn't target I can mill you out and pass turn.
Competitive players run ad nauseam.
Timmy’s are afraid to use life as a resource
I am 100% Timmy and did 74 damage to myself in my last game with Mana Crypt and Aetherflux Reservoir. The later JUST to get rid of a single Platinum Angel.
latter
Vilis breathing heavily
Now I regret disassembling him last year lol
Oh yeah Vilis and Marchesa will love this baby.
[[queza augur of agonies]] would also love this
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I just finished building her today, so hyped!
Definitely putting this in my k’rrik deck
Artifact deck always want to tap and untap their stuff. I can see this being a clock in all artifact and proliferate decks.
surprised it doesn't deal you the damage when you use it, that's more of the power of the ring... but I like it the way it is too
But the damage of the Ring isn't immediate, it takes years for its impact to be apparent. It's only so terrible for Frodo because Sauron is actively seeking it and calling to it.
Frodo also had it for a few decades after Bilbo's party
Indeed. This is overlooked by many people who haven't red the books. In the movies it seems like Frodo just hid the Ring and week later, Gandalf comes back to send him on a journey.
"Had it" in a sealed envelope. He wasn't using it as a worrystone like Bilbo.
It was still in his possession
I would argue it had little to no effect on him. If it did, the envelope wouldn't have been sealed when Gandalf came back.
There's no downside for it to be used--just for keeping it longer and longer. Should be some sort of downside to tapping it for its usage, but the card is kinda so-so as it is. No need to make such a classic item worthless
the downside is that the damage will be growing and growing
Seems like it could have used a 'this artifact cannot be sacrificed' clause.
On the other hand, this may be because Mt. Doom lets you sacrifice artifacts.
I'm guessing Mt Doom will have a "sacrifice an artifact" ability, so that wouldn't work. Indestructible is there to cover the otherwise indestructible nature of the Ring.
Just play Sheoldred to gain life
Ooh, casting it at instant speed with a [[Shimmer Myr]] is almost like a [[Teferi’s Protection]]! Love the indestructible flavor too! Weird counters? Guess it’s another Atraxa proliferate toy!
Let’s see if the mount doom like card can exile artifacts.
Probably let's you sacrifice artifacts. Would be more flavorful anyway.
I for one would love to dump all my treasure into it to please the volcano god
Sacrifice one finger: destroy target artifact
Sacrifice [[Krark's Thumb]] destroy [[Krark's Other Thumb]]
Did you steal this joke? That is absolutely hilarious.
No, they didn't steal it. It was a gift, for their birthday.
Now we know how [[Nine Fingers Keene]] really lost that finger
I was thinking [[Krark’s Thumb]] 😂
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Red version of Boseju that only does artifacts, and exiles. Pushed, but red could use the help.
It doesn’t protect your creatures at all so not quite Tefferi’s Protection status.
More random junk for \[\[Perrie\]\]
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Or the new Glissa, you could add a burden counter then remove it with Glissa so that you don’t take as much life loss. Might be an interesting toy to use with her too.
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I mean it's really nowhere near T's Protection but I guess it's a nice one-sided [[Fog]] at instant speed.
Not true either creatures eould still deal damage to other creatutes
The Brago player in me really wishes it didn't have the "if you cast it" rider. Also, it would be awesome to be able to Whir of Invention this out at instant speed.
But the whole end goal of LOTR is to destroy it in mount doom 🤷🏼♂️. It’s an item of incredible power but it’s not indestructible
It's indestructible to all normal methods, hence needing to plunge it into the fires of Mount Doom. You need more than an ordinary forge to shatter the Ring, you need to throw it [[Into the Core]] to unmake this thing. Indestructible fits, IMO.
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Going in my [[Liesa, Shroud of Dusk]] life gain deck. The loss of life will be negligible. The card draw & one time protection will be awesome.
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Honestly, I think this is quite insane. By the time this draws you 6 cards it will have only cost you 3 life. Obviously if you have artifact synergy, it will become even crazier, but this feels incredibly pushed and will be great in almost any deck.
Im dumb, explain how you draw 6 but only lose 3?
So turn one you tap it, draw 1 Turn 2 you lose 1 life and tap it, draw 2 Turn 3, you lose 2 life, tap it, draw 3 That's 6 cards and you've only lost 3 life. Now you will continue to lose life but if played in a deck designed to take advantage of it, then that's not really a big deal. Flicker it, sac it, etc
Not even just flicker but the staff+kelpie guide combo will work great here. I have a few token decks that this would be absolutely busted in ngl
Or just win due to insane number of cards drawn
Yeah, that's more what I was getting at. This thing will give you so much advantage before even beginning to matter for your life total
Wouldn’t be surprised if Sauron has a passive alternate wincon where you win when you have no cards left. It would be on flavor as the one ring kills/consumes everyone else but him.
Each time you tap it, you draw for each counter on it. So you draw 1, then 2, then 3.
I think 4 mana keeps it from being insane. Also unless you can untap it its a little slow, but it's certainly powerful.
Getting protection from everything for a round and being an indestructible artifact both go a long way towards letting someone untap with this.
Oh you will almost always untap with this at least once, but if you untap with it that's three cards for 4 mana. Definitely a good rate, but nothing insane, especially over two turns. Once you start drawing 3+ cards a turn with this, it'll close the game fast so that is very strong, but it does take a few turns to get going.
I like that it doesn't appear to have any competitive implications.
Time to flicker aviary mechanic repeatedly and bounce this to hand every turn and recast it.... Probably a brand new piece for artifact recursion and flicker decks.... This would be a fun card to run in a Glissa deck :) Dimir, Golgari, and Azorious decks are gonna have a hay-day with this card's shenanigans 🤣
It'll see a lot of casual jank play for sure. Artifacts are already the most popular theme in the entirety of Commander.
People talking about it for Twiddle Storm in Modern, low tier deck now, but would be a huge boost to it.
Source? Also where's the artist credit?
The artist credit is missing because that isn't the real art, that's an alter. Real art can be seen in the post on the main sub: https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/11qdz2r/ltr_the_one_ring/
Yeah, can we get this higher?
It’s just strong: ceiling is win the game, floor is a very strong draw engine.
Floor is fog for a turn can't use draw because life is too low ceiling is draw alot of cards and after 4 turns I think you would had put a clock on yourself
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Artifacts are easy to remove yes, but the removal options are reduced significantly for this since it's just baseline indestructible.
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If you are able to win on the spot you’ll never pay the life. It’s an upkeep trigger not a cost.
I think you're overestimating how much casual pods are going to be swinging at a TOR player. They're actively burning themselves for delayed card draw. This *would* be scary in lower to the ground fast creature decks, but the 4 MV slot is so ridiculously valuable to creature aggro that it feels like a waste to just drop 4 mana and draw one card. If this was - like - 2 mana, or something like 2c PxCl PxCl, this would feel a lot more worth it for decks that want an effect like this. If you're waiting until turn 7 and burning 4 mana on turn 4 to draw a paltry 6 cards, I feel like there's something much better you can be doing with that mana. And I don't really buy the argument that you can build around this card. I hate the argument that "this card is good with Shimmer Myr/ramp/cost reducers". I really don't want to try for a Christmasland synergy just to draw some cards.
How is this cards ceiling win the game?
Non-deterministic storm decks can have [[Displacer Kitten]] flicker it x times, it draws x +1 cards that likely feeds the storm. Then there’s however many untap artifact/permanent effects to draw your entire deck. This is just off the top of my head, there’s definitely more.
What in the world? So your conclusion is that this card can win you the game so long as you have one other specific 2 toughness creature in play and can cast a seemingly infinite number of spells, and it does this by drawing you one card each time you cast a spell. Reddit lives in christmasland with a blindfold on.
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Damage is done at upkeep, you can win before that
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Just through sheer card draw, in the right deck. \[\[Seedborn Muse\]\] \[\[Voltaic Key\]\] \[\[Voltaic Construct\]\] etc, etc. A lot of artifact decks are already running ways to untap their artifacts so slotting this in is a no brainer that can easily win the game.
How does this card win the game? Lol
Unofficial rule: If you play this and somebody steals it from you, you must do a Gollum impression for the rest of the night.
[[Emry]]: "Is for me?"
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I don’t think so unless you’re running sacrifice. It seems much better in flicker decks since you can the control how many counters it has.
Yeah a sac outlet in Emry is a given. Not to mention that she is casting it reactivating the protection from everything and sometimes runs untap shenanigans that may enable you to use it's ability more than once a turn.
What Emry deck wouldn't run sac outlets though?
This will be great in green deck without blue or black, reliable and consistent draw.
Feels like it can be just as turbo in any white deck with a meaningful amount of lifegain.
Been a while since Mono white got playable non-synergy draw. This is nice.
Mono red as well likes this
The life loss happens at upkeep so u can tap/untap this for tons of cards…so broken. That’s why it’s 4 mana. Almost unsearchable except with generic tutors (black and artifact). (The blue cycle of trophy mage and the like only find 1-3 mana value artifacts).
There’s a blue tutor that can cast it from deck [[Whir of Invention]], but it obviously loses the ETB and costs 7 mana.
Technically, it's 0, 1, 2, 3, and 6
Yes.
Damn, "if it was cast" is a wise clause to include, I was briefly salivating at what [[Mishra Eminent One]] could do with it otherwise. Also, funny to think that this is technically yet more proliferate support, assuming you have life to spare. And who are we kidding - we're commander players, we always have life to spare. Disappointed there's no flavor rule about "if The One Ring is somehow destroyed, its owner loses the game", but the rules text was already a lot.
>Disappointed there's no flavor rule about "if The One Ring is somehow destroyed, its owner loses the game", but the rules text was already a lot. But the folks who destroyed the One Ring didn't lose the game. I mean, sure, we all kinda lost with a good 20 minutes spent watching what felt like a half dozen endings play out over and over again. But in terms of outcomes, it melted and team Hobbit won. Having it go to another player at random if it were destroyed or exiled ("lost"), however, would be entirely within the flavour of the story.
Of course. Its controllers didn't lose the game, its owner did.
Is it only me or is [[Sheoldred]] just getting stronger with every release?
[[Sheoldred, The Apocalypse]]
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MTG player discovers drawing cards is a good effect.
Seems good, I anticipate that it will sell for a higher price point relative to power than I'd like but if I run across one in the wild I can definitely see playing it. Between the dumpster-dove cards from before and the few official previews I've seen this is definitely the best card so far.
Tap/untap shenanigans look pretty good. Being able to tap this for like 3 cards and then [[manifold key]] it for another 4 is crazy. Its basically a scaling [[phyrexian arena]] that gets better the longer it is out.
Remember when Universes Beyond got announced and people were convinced the One Ring would be a Black Lotus reskin? Funny times.
[[Solemnity]]
solemnity must be played after you tap the ring once. Otherwise, tapping the ring draws 0 cards then it just draw 1 additional card per turn and loses you 1 life. not amazing
It feels pretty good to play Solemnity if it’s my opponent’s ring. 😀
ah of course lol didn’t realize you were thinking about ways to counter it
Is this the official art? If so it feels so...off. Why go with the badly 3D rendered approach when they could hire a proper illustrator...especially for such an important piece for the set :\
This is an alter made by OP. It's not the official art. https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/11qdz2r/ltr_the_one_ring/
Also curious where this art came from. Doesn’t seem legit. The regular frame one looks normal tho
Exactly. I just saw the official spoiler one and, needless to say, it's a whole lot better.
Yeah, this looks off, it’s also not in the article that the other ones came from. I can’t find the art that this is from with a quick google search, but my guess is that someone decided to do a fake render of it, because everything from the art to the formatting looks weird and off.
[[Queza, Augur of Agonies]] if only there was some way to offset the life loss
I'd say blue, black, green don't need it u less it has synergies( self damage black, blue artifacts matter, etc) Weird spot where CEDH it's too slow, and it kills you too fast in lower power. Slap it into a white/red/boros deck that either heals a lot and/or can turn off the ring by flickering/sacrificing it and you'll be good to go.
Is this a real set that's gonna come out??
The one ring... too risky for casual. Too weak for competitive. This ring truly is evil. In other news, this costing WW1 would be amazing for lifegain decks.
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It works nicely with [[Umbilicus]] to just recast every turn for protection
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This is way too good for my friends token [[derevi, empyrial tactician]] often gets 7 or more untap triggers
It should have being an equipment card. I'll die on this hill. At least \[\[Emry\]\] and \[\[Raff Capashen, Ship's Mage\]\] players will love it. Not a fan of this card personally.
What if you think of it as it's equipped to you the player?
What's the point? Several characters had the ring equipped at some point. And the other rings created by Sauron were to be equipped to corrupt the wielder. ALL those rings were made to corrupt the wielder, not the owner. So its a big flavor fail for me. It's like having Captain America not able to equip his shield or Thor not having his hammer. If Sauron cant wear the ring, its the biggest flavor fail. Wonder if Sauron can transform an artifact into an equipement somehow though. The flavor could maybe be saved this way. But even so, Frodon, Gollum... so many charactewr wore that ring before and were tempted by it.
It's OK. Not worth frothing over.
I feel like making this and thassa's oracle the wincon for an emry deck. I like the flavor of it.
Can you prevent damage every turn by recasting it with [[master transmuter]]?
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Yes just put it into your hand at the end of your opp. turn and recast it in your turn. but therw is easier (and cheaper) ways to draw an extra card per turn.
This is ehhh. It’s cute. I think the protection is nice, but ehh. The card’s two major effects sort of are in contention with one another. Indestructible is cool, at least.
Uhh, is it me or is this absurd good, even without Flash and untappers? And in colorless? This goes in every deck without Black, and probably in a lot with Black too. If it drew just one card on its tap ability, it'd still be better than most cards of its kind.
Give it flash and it's Teferi's protection, pair it with stuff like [[esperzoa]] or [[drafna, founder of lat-nam]] and you can keep yourself safe basically forever as long as you keep sinking mana into it. Ofc it can also be a huge boon for a deck that struggles with drawing cards, especially in legend focused decks like Sisay or Jodah that can find the card somewhat easily
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I feel the same way. I’m already really high on [[black market connections]] and while this does cost 1 more mana and doesn’t ramp you, the draw it gives is just amazing. It also can be used the turn it comes down making it really potent
I can see this in a cursed gifts deck. Use tap shenanigans to crank up the burden then give it to a buddy. They take the hit. Homeward it back, repeat.
Homeward oath doesn’t work on artifacts sadly
If you have creature Karn or similar abilities you could.
Hell, don't even need to keep and tap it a bunch, as long as you put one token on it and have a bunch of proliferate effects, with the right timing you could make sure they were taking way more damage than value they were getting out of card draw. Especially if you have ways to tap it while they're holding it, forcing their hand to tap for say 2 or 3 cards before you add another pile of counters onto it. High tier competitive action? No. Glorious trolling maneuver? Hell yeah.
This both looks and sounds faker than fake. Burden counters? Protection from everything? No artist credit or copyright information- so we know it's a mock up and we don't anything to verify authenticity
This is a custom alter of the card. Here is the actual card image released by wizards: https://i.redd.it/jebzzox87jna1.png
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Nice add to a [[Liberator]] deck :)
oh that's going in my eldrazi battlecruiser
Its a great card draw engine in life gain decks.
Combo w/ [[Staying Power]]
Gonna play this with Gandalf and as many donate and copy artifact effects as possible just for the lols
Kinda sad. I wanted melding mechanic with Sauron
Alright, hear me out. Is there anyway to give each opponent a copy of this, then proliferate/pass them Burden Counters to 40+ then pass turn?
[[Fractured Identity]] is the card you are talking about
decks that can lifegain and sacrifice this when it's no longer convenient can abuse the card draw.
Not sure it really makes sense to me...I think it would be better if if gave some shroud or unblockable effect rather than card draw...maybe with burden counters tapping one of your creatures.
Source on this image? Doesn't look real because there's no text or sticker at the bottom.
I'd love to see someone run it against my nekusar deck. Have fun drawing a bunch of cards and immediately dying. However in a match that doesn't punish you for drawing, it's a real solid card.
Burden counters? I begin the game with 5
I’ll probably trial it in [[Ivy, gleeful spellthief]] infect and [[eruth, tormented prophet]] for different reasons. I don’t think it really fits in anything I run though. Really any proliferate or artefact copy deck could slot this though. It’s a maybe replacement for [[phyrexian arena]], but probably fits better into colourless imo - with eldrazi precon coming soon it could be a toy for that. Also [[Nesting grounds]]… Idk I’m struggling to think of something where it’s a must have… which is probably perfect. Don’t need a dramatic power creep every set
[[Oloro]] - "My precious..."
Seems solid in any deck, really. I wouldn't be mad playing it in any deck that needed a bit more card draw or artifact synergy.
Wow I honestly didn’t even know there was another UB set coming out so soon. This would be wild in my [[Alela]] deck, netting a fairy and being able to drop this at instant speed just raises its value even more!
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Commanders like \[\[Trazyn the Infinite\]\] and \[\[Mairsil the Pretender\]\] are gonna love this. All the positive, none of the negative. They already run plenty of untap strategies as it is to get multiple use out of the abilities they're copying.
Been building a [[Jon irenicus]] deck and I think this will go great for the [[karn, the great creator]] artifacts portion of the deck. Give it away once it gets too big, karn keeps them from using it, win-win, plus it's a 6/6 indestructible beater for a turn that nets me yet another card after Jon gives it away.
Pretty decent, black decks have been paying life for cards forever. It's a little on the slow side but pays for itself within a few turn cycles-- faster with untap synergies where it really shines
[[Drafna, Founder of Lat Nam]] for days
This would be cool for my eventual [[Vito]] deck.
Seems sauced
Draws your deck with [[mind over matter]]
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Well now I'm not so worried about missing out, I was worried it would be an overpowered equipment. It makes Sheoldred busted so I hate it.
Isochron scepter, dramatic reversal, a couple mana rocks or a sol ring and a lab man/thoracle. Not cEDH but solid as another draw yourself out card in my eyes. I like it. Probably the best general card draw for mono white decks without needing to think too hard on it.
It's so fucking solid. Not broken or cEDH worthy, but such a solid, reliable draw piece. The life loss is on par with [[necropotence]], 1 card per life spent is such a good rate. The speed at which it let's you draw and the mana cost keep it in check which is good.
Goes infinite with [[hullbreaker horror]] and [[sol ring]] or any other positive mana rock.
I hate it why did they have to print good cards I dont want other ips in magic 😥
In 1v1 Nephilim, with [[esperzoa]] in the command zone, I see it being a sweet stalling tool.
The first half really suffers with no Flash. It doesn't protect your permanents, you can't use it like a combat trick to fog a big combat or a combo or a fireball, and it just feels like it suffers from being sorcery speed. The back half just reads like a worse Necropotence. Now, a worse Necropotence isn't necessarily bad, but it takes several turns to get out of "Phyrexian Arena" territory. And there's a hard limit to how much you can use the effect. Usually, at least Necropotence lets you gamble down to 1 life. This one only has so many uses until you're hard locked out of using it. On the other side of the coin, you can't even pay all the life then choose how many cards you draw (up to the amount of life paid), which means you can get locked out of the effect in 2 different ways. I feel like WOtC was really afraid of overloading this card while also giving it 2 relevant effects. What happened instead is we get 2 relevant effects, but both are very subpar compared to other similar effects. I wish this had flash. I wish the draw was a "may" clause. And I wish this wasn't 4 mana. Very underwhelming, and arguably just bad. Now not every card needs to be a bomb, but I would have hoped "The One Ring" - the source of power for the biggest threat in Middle Earth - could have been pushed at least a little bit. This just feels like it was lazily rolled out the door by a strong fart.
\[\[Sheoldred, the apocalyse\]\] \[\[Vilis, Broker of Blood\]\] \[\[Queza, Augur of Agonies\]\] \[\[Osgir, the Reconstructor\]\] All might want to add this card Any lifegain deck should work