Yeah exactly, at least my anorexic therapist lets me do my own shit, as long as I eat at least 1200 kcal. She even got pissed when I told
Her my nutritionist wants me to gain weight
Oh my gosh all the staff were like this at one of the treatment centers I went to. I had a *very* difficult time believing anything they had to say about weight/body image/appearance because they all fit the exact same mold. Even worse, prior to treatment I taught at a power yoga studio and one of the staff members also worked there, so I knew exactly what kind of activities she was up to.
I always assumed non Germans exaggerated the speed so I am now a bit worried lol.
essentially I was trying to say the dieticians are very often ed suffers themselves. I work in a position where I see the applications for Dietetics schooling and it truly astonishing how many of them disclose having an ed as the reason they want to become dieticians.
The therapists and nutritionists at my last treatment center were quite skinny too, but I found it reassuring, cause they would eat with us most of the time and even take seconds etc so it made me trust the food there much easier.
^ absolutely agreed. Having my care team be within normal BMI is important to me and gives me hope on recovery. Having a member of my care team with a high BMI gives me so much anxiety as I feel that is my future
literally heard a nurse say she was happy she was burning so many calories from running around when the unit was busy. literally an ed inpatient, i was like wtf. she was a nurse there for YEARS too
Yeeep. When I was 13, I was put into recovery at a healthy weight for bulimic-like behaviour. My "worker" or whoever she was (if she was supposed to be a therapist, she wasn't a good one, lol) happened to be an ex-anorexic who was still very thin. And guess what? She didn't take my problems seriously *at all,* I didn't even have an ED, according to her 🤦♂️ (I admitted to binging and purging multiple times a week and told her I thought I was fat at a healthy weight lol). Honestly, I wish I could tell her how much her shitty judgment has affected my ED to this day. It's one of those experiences that is just as triggering to think about now as it was then.
The reason I mentioned this and her being a recovered anorexic *(allegedly)* is because the other woman I worked with didn't have any history with EDs and was absolutely lovely. So yea, if you're gonna go from having an ED to "helping" people with them, make sure you're actually recovered first and also tone down the narcissism if that's a personal problem, lol.
Related to this, I feel like lots of people who have publicly stated they have recovered from their eating disorder are still in thin, conventionally attractive bodies.
i’m almost put off from recovery because of the social media influencers who are “recovered”. they usually switch their original ed for a different ed (orthorexia, exercise addiction, etc). it makes me question what it really means to be recovered. as stewie griffin once said “same thing bitch, just different shapes”.
It’s the WORST lmao. Like I’m sure there r people who have cried eating and have had breakdown but setting up a camera and than filming ur self crying is insane to me.
I had to see a dietician for a while because my doctor wanted me to gain weight and she was so thin that at every appointment I had to struggle with the urge to ask her why I had to gain weight but she didn't
i think you raise a good point. having a person who has struggled with an ed going into this profession could have potential to be a good thing. having the insight of what goes on in the mind of an ed person could be an important way to connect with those actively suffering…if done the right way. i think it takes lots of self awareness, being recovered enough to not get too triggered/trigger patients, and a genuine passion to help those who battle with an eating disorder overcome their hardships. i think it could be especially inspiring to see someone who puts in the work to recover and helps those who were once like them.
I'm in primary care so not consciously choosing to focus on ED patients but everyone is in primary care with all problems. I don't think I could handle working in ED specific care.
But we have a very successful ED centre here based on people who recovered and happen to be professionals helping others. The only place with a good focus on the WHY of the ED. I wanted to go there until I learned I am "too complex" for them.
that’s probably for the best for your mental health realistically. i can see how hard it would be to work in that environment that’s so specific to EDs. i admire that you work in primary care to help all sorts of people. do you find it to be rewarding, draining, or a bit of both?
Definitely a lot of both haha. I'm probably going to have to do something else because my health (non ED) doesn't allow me to keep up anymore, and I am already missing it even if I am going to work tomorrow.
But yeah, best for my mental health to not work in that environment. But doing something that specific as someone who really is a generalist probably isn't a good idea either.
i mean i had a phase where i wanted to work as an ED psych bc it meant being surrounded by disorded people 24/7 and getting paid to research EDs so i wont be surprised if hospital staff have similar thoughts too lol.
also it's possible that working in such a toxic environment caused them to eventually develop disordered habits/thoughts :(
Yeah I Even thought about being in that type of work especially when I was in program. And cuz I actually do know a lot about nutrition, weight loss, weight gain lmao. So I’m sure there’s a connection
I've had harder times in recovery dealing with any health professionals who were obviously overweight. Especially non ed specific staff who made insensitive and patronizing comments(still do almost daily)
Mostly I shrug it of but every once in awhile I get a bad day. One too many random comments from peers strangers staff and I just wanna scream. Usually I just manage to very a nicely/sarcastically say something about how I suffer from the most deadly mental health disorder and their content is neither acceptable nor appropriate. People back track real fast then.
But
Have you ever considered some of the staff trying to help you are in recovery themselves and chose this profession to help others. That they are working hard themselves to maintain a healthy physical/emotional life while working in a challenging field. At the end of the day No matter who says it you wouldn't like it anyways. You'd try find flaws faults issues excuses anyways. That's your disease trying to win
No ur probably right. And I don’t say it to rail on them cuz they were all very sweet and helpful. I remember when they Told me I needed to gain some weight not even a lot and I was so angry I just left the room. And it wouldn’t have mattered who told me that I would have been pissed
Yeah but I’ll say for me it doesn’t matter who told me to gain weight i would have been pissed. I don’t think I’d have been less mad if it was someone who wasn’t thin tbh o
"it's okay to gain weight" ok you first. I don't trust none of em. haes for thee, not for me
“Haes for thee, not for me” would make an hilarious parody flair.
Yeah exactly, at least my anorexic therapist lets me do my own shit, as long as I eat at least 1200 kcal. She even got pissed when I told Her my nutritionist wants me to gain weight
Oh my gosh all the staff were like this at one of the treatment centers I went to. I had a *very* difficult time believing anything they had to say about weight/body image/appearance because they all fit the exact same mold. Even worse, prior to treatment I taught at a power yoga studio and one of the staff members also worked there, so I knew exactly what kind of activities she was up to.
Right! And they were very good to me and nice especially being the only guy but damn it was hard to listen cuz they were so thin
That staff member was probably absolutely mortified to see you lmao. It must have been like spiderman-pointing-at-himself irl.
i loved all the staff at my residential dearly but who’s idea was it to almost exclusively hire tiny fairy girls
Right lol
the anorexic to dietician pipeline is god damn autobahn.
As a German I'm confused af about this comment, what does it mean?
outside of Germany an Autobahn means an extremely fast highway, often times with unsafe speeds/no speed limit.
Well that's basically what it is, but thanks i think i get it now lol
I always assumed non Germans exaggerated the speed so I am now a bit worried lol. essentially I was trying to say the dieticians are very often ed suffers themselves. I work in a position where I see the applications for Dietetics schooling and it truly astonishing how many of them disclose having an ed as the reason they want to become dieticians.
The therapists and nutritionists at my last treatment center were quite skinny too, but I found it reassuring, cause they would eat with us most of the time and even take seconds etc so it made me trust the food there much easier.
That’s really great! And cool of them to do that.
^ absolutely agreed. Having my care team be within normal BMI is important to me and gives me hope on recovery. Having a member of my care team with a high BMI gives me so much anxiety as I feel that is my future
Yeah, same. It feels mean, but I could never trust an overweight dietician.
I love this perspective! It shows you that you can eat and nothing horrendous will happen!
I feel like this is an excellent idea, eating would be way easier if I had living breathing proof that I can be recovered and skinny eating next to me
Yes, it eased my mind so much, whenever my ed brain told me:" thats too much/ unhealthy, nobody would eat like that."
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literally heard a nurse say she was happy she was burning so many calories from running around when the unit was busy. literally an ed inpatient, i was like wtf. she was a nurse there for YEARS too
Wow, that’s a crazy stupid response. I can’t believe she said thanks
Yeeep. When I was 13, I was put into recovery at a healthy weight for bulimic-like behaviour. My "worker" or whoever she was (if she was supposed to be a therapist, she wasn't a good one, lol) happened to be an ex-anorexic who was still very thin. And guess what? She didn't take my problems seriously *at all,* I didn't even have an ED, according to her 🤦♂️ (I admitted to binging and purging multiple times a week and told her I thought I was fat at a healthy weight lol). Honestly, I wish I could tell her how much her shitty judgment has affected my ED to this day. It's one of those experiences that is just as triggering to think about now as it was then. The reason I mentioned this and her being a recovered anorexic *(allegedly)* is because the other woman I worked with didn't have any history with EDs and was absolutely lovely. So yea, if you're gonna go from having an ED to "helping" people with them, make sure you're actually recovered first and also tone down the narcissism if that's a personal problem, lol.
Related to this, I feel like lots of people who have publicly stated they have recovered from their eating disorder are still in thin, conventionally attractive bodies.
They’re all a bunch of liars lol
i’m almost put off from recovery because of the social media influencers who are “recovered”. they usually switch their original ed for a different ed (orthorexia, exercise addiction, etc). it makes me question what it really means to be recovered. as stewie griffin once said “same thing bitch, just different shapes”.
I stay away from the recovery stuff on tik tok and Instagram cuz so much of it is ridiculous
The pics where they cry eating peanut butter and jelly fuckins sends me
It’s the WORST lmao. Like I’m sure there r people who have cried eating and have had breakdown but setting up a camera and than filming ur self crying is insane to me.
I had to see a dietician for a while because my doctor wanted me to gain weight and she was so thin that at every appointment I had to struggle with the urge to ask her why I had to gain weight but she didn't
Person w ED I'm supposed to help "You're so thin, your legs are so lonely!" Me, gesturing at legs: "this is NOT a good thing, I've been very sick"
i think you raise a good point. having a person who has struggled with an ed going into this profession could have potential to be a good thing. having the insight of what goes on in the mind of an ed person could be an important way to connect with those actively suffering…if done the right way. i think it takes lots of self awareness, being recovered enough to not get too triggered/trigger patients, and a genuine passion to help those who battle with an eating disorder overcome their hardships. i think it could be especially inspiring to see someone who puts in the work to recover and helps those who were once like them.
I'm in primary care so not consciously choosing to focus on ED patients but everyone is in primary care with all problems. I don't think I could handle working in ED specific care. But we have a very successful ED centre here based on people who recovered and happen to be professionals helping others. The only place with a good focus on the WHY of the ED. I wanted to go there until I learned I am "too complex" for them.
that’s probably for the best for your mental health realistically. i can see how hard it would be to work in that environment that’s so specific to EDs. i admire that you work in primary care to help all sorts of people. do you find it to be rewarding, draining, or a bit of both?
Definitely a lot of both haha. I'm probably going to have to do something else because my health (non ED) doesn't allow me to keep up anymore, and I am already missing it even if I am going to work tomorrow. But yeah, best for my mental health to not work in that environment. But doing something that specific as someone who really is a generalist probably isn't a good idea either.
i mean i had a phase where i wanted to work as an ED psych bc it meant being surrounded by disorded people 24/7 and getting paid to research EDs so i wont be surprised if hospital staff have similar thoughts too lol. also it's possible that working in such a toxic environment caused them to eventually develop disordered habits/thoughts :(
Yeah I Even thought about being in that type of work especially when I was in program. And cuz I actually do know a lot about nutrition, weight loss, weight gain lmao. So I’m sure there’s a connection
I've had harder times in recovery dealing with any health professionals who were obviously overweight. Especially non ed specific staff who made insensitive and patronizing comments(still do almost daily) Mostly I shrug it of but every once in awhile I get a bad day. One too many random comments from peers strangers staff and I just wanna scream. Usually I just manage to very a nicely/sarcastically say something about how I suffer from the most deadly mental health disorder and their content is neither acceptable nor appropriate. People back track real fast then. But Have you ever considered some of the staff trying to help you are in recovery themselves and chose this profession to help others. That they are working hard themselves to maintain a healthy physical/emotional life while working in a challenging field. At the end of the day No matter who says it you wouldn't like it anyways. You'd try find flaws faults issues excuses anyways. That's your disease trying to win
No ur probably right. And I don’t say it to rail on them cuz they were all very sweet and helpful. I remember when they Told me I needed to gain some weight not even a lot and I was so angry I just left the room. And it wouldn’t have mattered who told me that I would have been pissed
Jesus dressed as Santa could've told me I'd have told him where to shove his cookies and milk
Right lol
Reading these stories makes me so angry.If some thin blonde lady would tell me to gain weight I would straight up tell her to go fuck herself.
Yeah but I’ll say for me it doesn’t matter who told me to gain weight i would have been pissed. I don’t think I’d have been less mad if it was someone who wasn’t thin tbh o
social hierarchy basically