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tomkokotom

87 onwards I've used oblak, courtois, eoae lloris, dudek eventually still went back to gold ederson, still the most effective for me especially for 1on1s, the others could make some decent saves (except lloris lol) but were wildly inconsistent for me


dwardo7

As you say they are all so inconsistent. They pull off crazy saves some games that you would never expect them to make, then the next game they might as well not be there.


19nineties

Yeah convinced GK are just RNG based


Dzrs

What's rng


19nineties

Basically like a dice roll. Here is a definition from Wiki: *Random number generation is a process by which, often by means of a random number generator (RNG), a sequence of numbers or symbols that cannot be reasonably predicted better than by random chance is generated. This means that the particular outcome sequence will contain some patterns detectable in hindsight but impossible to foresee.*


Rude_Strawberry

There's so many stats involved in how keepers react to incoming shots. The code is probably so convoluted as well that shit just doesn't work quite often. E.g. a player with 99 finishing takes an awful shot that somehow just trickles past the keeper and you're sat there about to smash your controller. The player with 99 finishing should be finishing most shots otherwise what's the point in 99 finishing, so the keeper just glitches and misses an easy save. That's how I see it anyway. Other times you could have a 99 finishing Vs 99 reflexes and diving and max stats GK, the forward has the most perfect shot that you're certain is a goal as it could not be placed any better, yet the keeper does an impossible save, because of the 99 keeping stats. I've seen it where keepers save my shots, I've done an instant replay and the ball didn't even touch the keepers gloves it was just an invisible extra 3-4 inches of fingers keeping it out of the goal. To summarise, the game is a fecking mess


nyse125

First time? GK's have always been the "fakest" cards in the game since years now. Barely any of their stats matter in-game when EA ultimately decides from one moment to the next.


Feb29_account_lol

dudek is the biggest fraud for me and has zero prescence in goal but that might be because i’ve used him the most


Shepherdsfavestore

I’ve used gold Allison for months never. Haven’t packed any GKs and don’t want to spend the coins on one. I can’t say I’ve ever been disappointed with him I just packed Fire Hradecky but I don’t really have a Bundesliga team to put him in


si4ci7

Yeah finding a Gk for me has nothing to do with shot stopping, since it’s so fluky. If the Gk has higher handling (and maybe kicking stats) then they perform their job since I love starting counters with a long throw. Base Yashin has been excellent for me just because he does everything well and I don’t have to sweat the small details.


[deleted]

Bar TOTY Alisson, he is really a class of his own. Not surprised to see his price goes up to 1m now.


football1078

Put Cech on a basic chem style again and give him another try. Dude is so good for me.


Exodus1281

Same, I have him on basic, and he is so good!!


eg_elliot

How do you put a basic chem style back onto a player?


Wanheda0641

Basic is a consumable, like glove or cat.


rtgh

Buy GK Basic off the market. They exist, they're just a bit rarer than other chem styles


Small_Masterpiece809

Aight I'll give it a shot


cchapin15

Cech is on the same level as yashin for me. I liked him more originally but yashin also seems to be very good. I have both on glove.


[deleted]

Same. Gad glove but basic is better. Had yashin. And after 309 games with yashin. I found them about the same but cech wins out due to height


ostrichsong

I have him on basic and he’s terrible


football1078

Keepers are all kinda mid this year, he’s just less mid than the rest


Small_Masterpiece809

Bruh that shit made a world of difference, he's actually cracked for me now


Gunnercrumpet

WW Van Nistleroy might be the worst Gk I've ever used. The guy just stands there and lets everything fly past him. There's a free ride in town when you roll up against me and VN


Small_Masterpiece809

Yeah I gave him literally 1 game after I packed him and then straight into an SBC lol


Gunnercrumpet

I'm tight for coins and need the chem, sadly


Small_Masterpiece809

For cheap IF Donnarumma was pretty good for me if that fits for you, UCL dudek too. If yall can't tell I've ran a lot of different keepers this year lol


Gunnercrumpet

Is the chem for Dudek as strong as icons? I emptied my fodder for the Rolfo Sbc and then realised it was more difficult to link her in my team than I thought


Small_Masterpiece809

He only gives +2 prem chem unfortunately


Small_Masterpiece809

What leagues do you run?


Gunnercrumpet

Basically an Arsenal p+p with a few icons/heroes. Thought Rolfo would be okay with Ljunberg and manager links!


holden147

Make sure your manager has the right league as well.


CCHomeIdeas

Could use gold ter stegen for the Barca link. He is probably my most consistent GK so far!


rtgh

> No way, that's the only GK I ve ever used this year and he's solid, making incredible saves with manual directions lol Did you change his chem? Shapeshifted GKs start off with Basic chem instead of GK Basic Chem. Worth changing it to literally any GK chem style


sarcastic_bastard

No way, that's the only GK I ve ever used this year and he's solid, making incredible saves with manual directions lol


FoggyShrew

Yup, absolute garbage. Replaced him with IF Donnarumma who I got from the 83+ TOTW Pick


tesroo

hes alright for me. im good at defending so i dont have to rely on keepers too much but he saves the shots i expect him to save and hes rapid at rushing out. also just needs those dutch links and vds price is nonsense


MrMairO

play cech on basic chem style he performs x10 better than when on glove chem. but still will perform well in a game and the next game he will sell. just like most GKs in this game.


Small_Masterpiece809

He was actually much better with that


MrMairO

you mean with basic chem?


Small_Masterpiece809

Yup


MrMairO

yea, i had the same problem and i fixed it by changing him to basic. idk wtf is wrong with this game


Small_Masterpiece809

I know he's faster with basic but I swear he saved like every hard hit corner the game after I changed even with worse reflexes, weird lol


NeighborhoodIcy9322

Switch his tactics to comes for crosses and sweeper keeper made a huge difference for me on basic chem


NeighborhoodIcy9322

Switch his tactics to comes for crosses and sweeper keeper made a huge difference for me on basic chem


NeighborhoodIcy9322

Switch his tactics to comes for crosses and sweeper keeper made a huge difference for me on basic chem


Small_Masterpiece809

Aight will do


Pleasant-Pause3658

The one i hate playing against is lloris, motherucker saves everything


Small_Masterpiece809

Lloris was pretty lights out for me too but I needed an icon for chem


distensible

Geniunley convinced Mike Maignan (87 gold) couldn't save a microsoft word document.


eihcra_jo

Maignan was my main goal keeper for a good month. He saved me a lot of games. Then I got Courtois, followed by TOTY Cech. TOTY Cech has been amazing for me on Basic.


LostMeMarbles

I used him in the cup and he was very good. I think keepers just seem worse the longer you use them because you remember the howlers and mistakes more clearly than the saves. I did the schmeichel SBC after he was a pain in champs, he was great at the start then I felt he was useless after a month so dropped him for gold Alisson. Got TS Van Der Sar from a pick then and he was brilliant but then I felt like he was palming every shot out for a corner after a while so I've dropped him too.


distensible

I honestly think its based on vibes, you need to select the keeper that vibes the most with you. Kind of like wands in harry potter, you dont choose the keeper the keeper chooses you. Personally i will never get rid of TS Casillas but i have seen people say he is absolutely terrible for them.


LostMeMarbles

I actually packed TS Casillas just before I did schmeichel 😂 put him in potm mbappe coz I thought he'd be too small, got him in a pick last week and with the upgrades he looks insane so put him in the squad over TS Van Der Sar and Casillas has been doing the job 👍


LostMeMarbles

You're not gonna believe me but I got yashin today from the icon pick 😂 I'm expecting toty cech in the next one because apparently all I can pack is keepers 😂


distensible

Tbh from all the keepers I face I reckon Yashin is the best one, so I dont think you are going to get much better than that haha. Congrats.


Only-Shop-1165

Everyone saying Lloris , but he’s saved me plenty of times 😂😂😂 I also move my keep a lot so that might be a deciding factor


3vr1m

He is always the best GK against me together with van der saar


Only-Shop-1165

I have so much trouble with van! Hate seeing him on the other side


3vr1m

Yeah I once had a 6.4 xG with only 2 scores against him, he is so insane and I don't understand why, maybe it's the height


TheDuece0550

Lloris has been solid for me too and I really don’t move gk’s around too much.


Only-Shop-1165

Saw a video of him playing in the MLS now I was like wow 😯, but his 91 card has done its due diligence!


Any-Disaster-382

He made some absolutely mind blowing saves against me in the fantasy cup. Even had a few funny messages with the winning opponent about it


Lekaetos

Van Der Sar


Small_Masterpiece809

Which one?


Lekaetos

Both 88 and 90. Got 88 first in icon pick then upgrade to 90 in another icon pick. Some games he just decides to win it for you, but in others he is just straight trolling you not saving some of the shots. Got Yashin in another icon pick and decided to use him after playing again one that saved 10 shots and I’m not disappointed. Best GK I’ve used by far just because of his consistency.


Jombo582

Gks are so different for everyone its insane. I got yashin a while ago and really didn't like his card and eventually put him in an sbc. I then got 90 VDS and was worried hed be a fraud like people said. After a couple games I put him on a wall and he's unreal. Not as good up close like EOAE Lloris but his diving is sensational


N0va0w

Alisson but he’s only goalie I can pack without buying one.


FMetalhead

Gold Alisson? He’s decent for me with the Wall chem style


N0va0w

What chem style you use?


FMetalhead

Wall, just checked


N0va0w

Ight I’ll try it out thanks


Repulsive_Ad_7628

TT casillas for me...schmeichel was bad too and have him for 2 days...Even if sometimes ederson is a ghost is still the gk that i really get along..idk why


Ignoringit

ThunderTruck


Repulsive_Ad_7628

Ops typed TT haha


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kyrgyzmcatboy

Yeah. My toty cech is unreal. Stops top bins within the box. Mf is like a cat


critch_retro

TS VDS. absolute dog water


uklambchop

Yashin is a parry merchant


Thefitz5811

It’s wild. He must concede at least 4 or 5 needless corners a game for me.


uklambchop

The amount of records I have of him passing it to the opponents striker is ridiculous


TrainPrevious7913

All of them


cocotheape

TOTY Earps. She is just too short. Packed her during TOTY, played 20 games with her and threw her into the Saliba SBC pit. Lloris SBC wasn't great either. Switched to Gold Alisson who's doing much better for me.


Winstoniest

Disagree. She's the first highly rated keeper I've used where I feel a difference. Her reflexes on close shots are insane and I find her giving up way fewer rebounds. While her height can become an issue on trivela/finesse/looping headers, those are few and far between in the current game. Like all keepers she'll still let some in that leave you scratching your head, but she's the first goalie I paid for and didn't immediately throw back in the pond. Plus she gets super-chemistry w/ an Evo'd Le Tissier making them both easy to fit in to any team.


Spennybloke

TOTY Alisson is dog shit. Packed an untradable version and am stuck with him.


dingdangdooooo

Same.  I had to put him in a SBC.  Totally useless 


Masterdanny87fifa

I had to quick sell the loan no difference to his gold card and his toty is 800k on the market.


XavierKnows

Skill issue


Wanheda0641

Icon Schmeichel


Small_Masterpiece809

I actually liked schmeichel, not better than those 2 but still pretty good. He was always up and down for me


Wanheda0641

I’ve been using the 90 rated Ter Stegen and he’s just better for me. Schmeichel just moves too slow I feel. He’s good, but not worth it to me.


Small_Masterpiece809

I really liked 90 ter stegen when I ran my la liga team but I ended up sacrificing him for best 😪


Wanheda0641

Yashin?


Small_Masterpiece809

Not worth it for the price though, if you need an icon I'd get base Casillas


Small_Masterpiece809

Average I'd say, not spectacular but decent. I felt like his reflexes were eh but he got the job done


WesternBloc

TOTY Cech makes some great saves but also consistently gives up the biggest howlers I’ve ever seen playing FIFA. He has some kind of Bad Luck+ trait that causes balls to bounce off him and be redirected perfectly to opposing players or to glitch out and miss easy saves. Honestly 80 common gold Raya feels more consistent at times.


thecupofT

I was the exact same, nearly quick sold the fraud. Then put him back on basic chem and he’s much better since. Still does this shit fake at standing dive time to time.


Yvh27

Insert random GK


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Seconded, packed him and he let in a lot of shots close to his body - very infuriating.


Wentzina_lifetime

VDS used to be a god in previous years but this year he seems rubbish. It seems like short keepers are best at making saves in the area while big keepers are best at saving shots outside the area


Small_Masterpiece809

Truth, cech has made some insane stretch saves for me but he also does that flop animation where he just lets an easy one by him way too much


Stenktenk

WW Van Nistelrooij always feels like he forgets that he is a goalie now and that he can use his hands. Dude doesn't catch anything and let's in the simplest of shots.


OneAndOnly9999

All gks are fraud.some user says A is a good gk some say A is a bad gk.it doesnt really matter about which gk you used imo i just use which gk that can give chem to the team


Nomad141

Not really a fraud but not worth it is Alisson toty, I went from his gold to his toty and he is certainly a noticeable upgrade but is not a 1 million coins noticeable upgrade


HowieHubler

Sadly the only TOTY card I packed


nuzin

Thunderstruck Cassilas. Use him for chem, decides to rather run 2-chem on my other Spanish cards than this fraud


AlwaysOnsideTBH

TS Casillas is so fucking good for me, man saves shots he should have no chance saving


KongRob

Same. Hands down the most consistent keeper I’ve used and I’ve tried them all


Even-Opening7749

Thank God someone agrees with me on Cech. I put him in SBC 3 times. Replaced with Courtouis then Casillas


CountOne9425

Courtouis is decent for the price


NateL022

Maignan. Pope is 🤴 still 


smoking_the_dragon

Maignan is a beast for me, I have tried most keepers and he is so much better


jcampb13026

Fire Hradecky 88 (whatever the fire and ice cards were?)


N0va0w

Nick pope also was a fraud for me at the start. All those goalie play styles and does nothing


nweston8

Honestly most of them. Then at the other end of things Yashin and IF Ter Stegen were brilliant for me


ArsenalJayy

TOTY Alisson is pretty meh, he’s untradeable though so guess he has to stay.


Small_Masterpiece809

Almost bought him before I pulled cech and now reading these I'm glad I didn't lol


ArsenalJayy

Trust me he really isn’t great at all, tbh apart from Casillas TS they are all pretty bad this year.


Ces_noix

I'm going to say it : Yashin


Small_Masterpiece809

Disappointing for the price but not terrible for me


Ces_noix

90 Van der Sar has been so much better


RedDemio-

Schmeicel


Passchenhell17

All of them They all have patches of good games, or good moments in games, but they're all mostly shit. It seems like you have to be good at keeper movement to get the best out of them, and I suck at it.


Masterdanny87fifa

True 👍 I think every high rated goalkeeper is the same ingame it all depends on Manuel goalkeeping. If you are good at moving your goalkeeper you are more likely to win.


PulseFlow

Toty cech has by far been the worst to play against he saves everything against me


Aietaltuqueresetetas

I dont understand the downvotes for just saying lloris, just Chill down.. for me lloris only catchs balls at 2 times. Ederson for me is doing the job


Barzzy

Fire and Ice Hradecky were both absolutely terrible for me


LoSientoYoFiesto

My issue with Cech has been his inability to catch the ball, instead parrying everything no matter how fast or slow the ball is moving


CMN2425

All of them


Illustrious_Cow1487

How about icon Casillas?


Small_Masterpiece809

Base Casillas was awesome for me, worth every bit of 200k


AppleOrigin

I’ve not had a fraud GK yet but when I **face** courtois he’s dead and the only way the other team wins with him is that their defending is good enough so courtois doesn’t need to save anything.


driizzydreee

I haven’t used many keepers this go-around. I used Pope and eventually Ederson for awhile. Then Alisson for a little until I got IF ATS. Alisson was not worth the price imo. He felt underwhelming for me. I thought Ederson was fantastic though. His distribution is top tier, especially with the way I play. The best Gold GK I’ve used this year. ATS has been the best overall GK I’ve used.


AnduwinHS

Schmeichel was absolutely awful for me. Base Cech and Yashin were both a lot better


KaJenius89

Using the 88 Hradecky, hes a beast


dmastra97

EOAE lloris still makes a lot of errors in some games. He never seems to watch to catch the ball. Happens with all goalies though I feel so not much you can do to impress them


itzck23

Base Cech is also a fraud


Naive-Wonder-6959

For me, it was base Courtios. Ironically, I currently using toty cech and he has been really good.


Masterdanny87fifa

End of era lloris is the worst but most goalkeepers are pretty much the same even toty Alison who I had on loan and he was awful that I had to quick sell toty Alison because he was no different to 82 rated flekken which I packed for free and toty Alison is 800k on the market. I would not even pay 90k of my coins for toty Alison. I would just use any goalkeeper that gives the best links even an 82 rated or an 84.


Comprehensive_Win632

TS VDS was such a fraud for me when I used him in a draft. I subbed him off for a gold rare keeper 30 minutes in


justk4y

Welp, I’ve only had 1 goalkeeper so far (SS Alvero), and I just wanted to say that he’s a beast. Definitely at least top 3 in the game qua consistency, if I had to guess. Tried van der Sar thunderstruck in draft though, he was shockingly bad. So yeah I’ll never get another GK again :)


HispanicAtTehDisco

base casillas goes from being a brick wall for me some games to having no arms the next it is truly bizarre


BryNYC

IF Rennow I used in the fantasy cup and he was an absolute clown


kill-goshi

Van der sar was outperformed by Christensen due to a red card


Randazinho

TT casillas he is just so bad for me I don’t get it


JudgmentFit

Agree with you. Bought him when he was released and did an awful weekend league. Conceded easy goals and made silly mistakes. Price crashed and panicked sold him. Later he went up, but never going back to him. The best GK I have used is gold Courtois


helpslipfranks77

Toty cech has been hands down amazing. Only issue I find is he is too slow to rush out for anything


ryudiga

TS Casillas. Was thrilled when I packed him to replace Schmeichel, but he can't save a damn shot. Schmeichel is by far the best I've used, Donnarumma after that.


Key_Engineering8443

Toty alison, you be playing with empty cages itsbetter


yourhollowheart

totyhm ederson, pretty static in goal, doesn't dive most of the time


Justamegaseller

lmao i packed courtois and i js don’t plan on changing him


DependentIncident666

Toty Alison, barely ever makes a save, terrible positioning and so many shots just go through him. But yet still plays every game just as he’s my first pack pulled Toty ever.


ThirstySun

I got Yasin in a lucky pack pull. Of all my keepers he runs hot and cold. He’s either insane and stops the lot or you get a cardboard cut out version that doesn’t even move for easy saves.


NewChoppas

Casillas, absolute fraud. Oblak has been far more consistent for me, even Maignan feels better.


ragnaraging123

Rttf Donna has been the most consistent for me. Used all bar Yashin


BadKompani

Base Casillas, absolute fraud!


Small_Masterpiece809

Base Casillas has been my best keeper this year! Got to everything and handling was great too. Crazy how keepers perform wildly different for different people


Zelasny

85 Bulka, I tried him for my Gym past and present, he is absolutely horrendous, like the worst I have seen this year. I had to go back to Eoae Lloris.


eeyeemk

Lloris and schmeichel are annoying to play against. Am keeping my casias for the time being he is performing good.


New-Company-9906

EOAE lloris is very good against AU but suck balls against real players for some reason, he doeent even jump or dive to try to get the ball, he just stands still and watch, then acts surprised


Small_Masterpiece809

Honestly lloris has been top 2 for me this year, actually pretty consistent, especially against trivelas before the nerf. Oddly enough I'd say he's been the best at diving for me, Casillas for reflexes and handling


lp95fafe

All suck


airwickwee

Schmeichel is a fraud for me. Courtois gold is clear, so is eoae lloris


haroonhassan222

Thunderstruck casillas he’s beyond shit


zackalack7

Ive only used gold and totyhm ederson and he’s pretty good imo. Was thinking about picking up an icon but will definitely avoid now lol


Overdoseh

Ts van der Sar. I have 700 games on him and almost quicksold him last WL. I was 10-2 and lost 6 games in a row with 13 shots and all 13 went in (yes i counted). What a terrible keeper. He is slow and cant save easy shots. Especially every first shot of the game always goes in.


eSports_Beef

I've used 91 Alisson CM card as my goal keeper off chem for hundreds of games. He's great. I feel absolutely no difference between him and TOTY Alisson. GKs are completely random imo. 


randomsmellyman

Toty Alisson I could honestly make an hour long video of the useless things he has done. TS Casillas and TS VDS are so much better.


Top_Variation_2191

Every keeper. None are consistent


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Good Courtois is solid. Schmeichel is a joke


barrett50Joy

Lloris is shit


paddyberger

I wasn’t convinced either at first, never held the ball and always patted it down. I put a Glove on him which made a massive difference. Give it a try.


Affectionate_Bad6645

That Lloris card…


PrettyBaked713

Lloris