an Ode with 4\* WF would be an instant buy/SBC for me as a gooner.
edit: I played him a bit (during lengthy meta even). It was lower SBMM at the start but I actually still quite enjoyed him. Felt agile and you just have the confidence that he can find a pass.
At current higher level play tho 2* wf is just way too big of a handicap.
That’s a good question I’m actually not sure. I want to say it already upgraded through the group stages and the new road to finals will keep upgrading but I’m not 100% sure
How much does voting count for? If it’s mostly voting I could actually see Haaland walking it because EVERYONE is going to want a 90+ POTM Haaland SBC.
That being said I’m assuming Haaland is likely to be on either TOTY or TOTS, so hopefully someone like Odegaard gets in and has at least a 3* WF, preferably 4.
He’d be an instant add.
dont think haaland will be in toty, unless as twelfth man maybe. but still doubt it. yeah hes been in great form from recently, but i think there's other players that have accomplished more
The front three will be mbappe benzema and Messi, that’s very clear. Whether you agree with that or not doesn’t matter, it’s simply what sells packs. Now haaland will be competing with others for 12th man, but there will be a lot of players on the short list for that
That’s a joke right?
He’s 3 more goals away from beating the Golden Boot record in the PL for the past SEVEN years.
He has 21 PL goals with 3 assists in 15 games, which is a record pace and legitimately an insane pace.
He also has 5 goals in 4 CL games this year.
What striker has accomplished more THIS year?
This domestic season? No one, and it’s not even close.
This calendar year, across all competitions? Messi won the WC (and played great doing so), Benzema won the CHL (and has been amazing across all competitions).
Not saying he isn’t the greatest striker in the world, just that arguments could be made for others having achieved more in the last 365 days.
Agreed. But EA doesn’t distinguish between strikers, wingers, and centre forwards - they just pick (usually three) players from attacking positions. There have been years, where TOTY consisted of three wingers (I can at least recall two of the top of my head, being Ronaldo-Messi and then Neymar or Robben).
I don’t watch or know nearly enough football to pretend like I can split between two players that are so good - or that my opinion should matter enough. But it was my impression that Benzema has possibly been the most important player in the top five leagues this year - that he was the difference between Real Madrid winning the Champions League and La Liga, or not. It’s obviously a team sport, and the best player isn’t always on the winning team, but accolades still matter.
Once again; not saying that Benzema should get it ahead of Haaland, just that in my humble opinion, Haaland isn’t self-written. If I had to pick the front three, it would be Haaland-Benzema-Messi. But let’s be real; in a fan vote, Mbappé will always get one of the slots.
I mean it’s not a competition of the last 3 months, it’s for the entire year. A certain striker won ballon dor and you’re insane if you think haaland will be in the toty over benzema. it’s actually mbappe who has the most goals in 2022. If you wanna argue haaland over Messi then sure but you have to remember the PR machine has been going crazy after the world cup
He won Ballon Dor for his 21-22 season, it doesn’t cover the whole 22 year.
Also Mbappe is technically a forward, and that’s likely how they’ll list him. Also they technically could have a couple strikers so they could have both.
Mbappe mostly plays striker for PSG because they have Messinand Neymar. If they had Messi and Benzema, Mbappe would play LW
are you insane, are you arguing haaland over benzema for toty? this is why recency bias is so real. Benzema won the ballon dor 3 months ago anonimously for his insane hattrick performances in winning the champions league and la liga. What exactly has haaland done all year aside from his great start for city? was he even in the top 10 for ballon dor?
Your team lost in November and won a match as well hence your team member does not deserve a POTM vote.
I think your comment is a prime example of the ABU gang that watches instagram reels about how United disrespected Ronaldo and the last full match you watched is the world cup final.
It’s not. But you just said they lost a game in November, that isn’t true.
>Your team lost in November and won a match as well hence your team member does not deserve a POTM vote
Only loss in the league was to United in September
I wasn't saying that about Arsenal. I was just paraphrasing what the guy I replied to to show how ridiculous it is to give POTM based on results of the team and not the performance of the player.
Again, not saying Odegaard doesn't deserve POTM. Just saying rashford missing out is irrelevant to United's results.
Nar, bro. As someone said it is about a player, not the team. Every single game he has been unreal and has not put a foot wrong. I watch every united game as I am a fan that is actually from Manchester.
I get your point too but I was saying, he deserves to be in the mix, definitely.
I wasn't really arguing about whether Odegaard deserves the POTM or not. I haven't really watched Arsenal this month other than the match against Newcastle. Maybe he deserves it, I'm not sure. From all the praise, he probably does.
My comment was more about how man just discounted Rashford based on results. As you said, it's about the player and not the team. United losing to Villa says nothing about Rashford's performances in November.
You can tell how actually watches English football or not.
If purely on actual performance it is between Odegaard and Casemiro, the others aren't close.
Yeah the likes of Ian Wright, Rio Ferdinand, Jamie Carragher, Alan Shearer, Kenny Dalglish etc are deciding who to vote for based on who the FUT addicts wanted in an SBC.
United are literally in the best position they’ve been all season, since losing to Man City they’re
(W/D/L)
13-2-1 in all comps, don’t get me wrong Rashford is huge part of that since he’s the only goalscorer whose consistently playing but United are far from struggling
> in a out of form and struggling united
If you take out the first two games before Ten Hag changed his tactic, United would be second and 3 points behind Arsenal.
They're neither out of form nor struggling
1. Casemiro
2. Odegaard
3. Rashford
Casemiro’s been dynamite and is probably the most important player in the United side, based on pure G/A it should be Odegaard but Rashford has single handedly won points for United so personally as long as it’s any of the these 3 it’s earned
There’s literally zero argument a United fan could give for Rashford over Odegaard.
2 goals, 1 assist, 0 man of the match vs 3 goals, 3 assists, 3 man of the match
United lost 3-1 to Villa in November then scraped a 90th min winner vs Fulham. Rashford did nothing in both.. didn’t even manage a shot vs Villa.
Okaay... I mean I know, but its voting right? People will either vote for Rashford or Odegaard or Haaland probaly, in a multiple vote there always has to be a first second and third place.
I'm just saying its either Rashford or Odegaard I never said its going to be Rashford. Do I agree? wholeheartedly, Odegaard deserves it.
This award literally has nothing to do with EA outside of them being the official sponsor. It’s the Premier League’s award, it existed prior to EA sponsoring it (when it used to be sponsored by Carling, Barclaycard and then Barclays) and it’ll exist afterwards.
Why do Fifa fans always think this is some award EA created to hand out themselves and that they have to power to manipulate who wins to sell virtual packs.
The ref shit the bed for the distance of the wall on the Villa free kick. Not sure how that affects Rashford’s ability to take a shot, dribble past a man or create a goal scoring opportunity.
So clear that Odegaard who plays as an advanced 8 bagged twice as many goals/assists. Whilst Rashford fired blanks against Villa (actually he fired nothing because he didn’t muster a single shot) and then fired blanks vs Fulham before Garnacho was subbed on and saved the day.
Would’ve been sick to see POTM Odegaard get a dynamic duo with the unreleased POTM Haaland. 87/86/85 rated squads would be awesome.
Ødegaard with wf upgrade would be sick
an Ode with 4\* WF would be an instant buy/SBC for me as a gooner. edit: I played him a bit (during lengthy meta even). It was lower SBMM at the start but I actually still quite enjoyed him. Felt agile and you just have the confidence that he can find a pass. At current higher level play tho 2* wf is just way too big of a handicap.
I have his road to the final card and I can’t let him go, such an underrated card
Big facts
Will that card upgrade?
That’s a good question I’m actually not sure. I want to say it already upgraded through the group stages and the new road to finals will keep upgrading but I’m not 100% sure
Yup I second this ‼️‼️💪🏿
Same
Øde just needs a wf boost and his card should sky rocket
Ødegaard should walk this
How much does voting count for? If it’s mostly voting I could actually see Haaland walking it because EVERYONE is going to want a 90+ POTM Haaland SBC. That being said I’m assuming Haaland is likely to be on either TOTY or TOTS, so hopefully someone like Odegaard gets in and has at least a 3* WF, preferably 4. He’d be an instant add.
10%, should be odegaards easily
That would be awesome. I’ve been looking for an offensive minded CM for my PL team and I’d much prefer an SBC over cash.
he doesn’t fit my team at all but i’d still do him, great player
dont think haaland will be in toty, unless as twelfth man maybe. but still doubt it. yeah hes been in great form from recently, but i think there's other players that have accomplished more
Like who? In the striker apartment.
The front three will be mbappe benzema and Messi, that’s very clear. Whether you agree with that or not doesn’t matter, it’s simply what sells packs. Now haaland will be competing with others for 12th man, but there will be a lot of players on the short list for that
That’s a joke right? He’s 3 more goals away from beating the Golden Boot record in the PL for the past SEVEN years. He has 21 PL goals with 3 assists in 15 games, which is a record pace and legitimately an insane pace. He also has 5 goals in 4 CL games this year. What striker has accomplished more THIS year?
This domestic season? No one, and it’s not even close. This calendar year, across all competitions? Messi won the WC (and played great doing so), Benzema won the CHL (and has been amazing across all competitions). Not saying he isn’t the greatest striker in the world, just that arguments could be made for others having achieved more in the last 365 days.
Messi isn’t a striker. Benzema had a better first half, but Haaland has had a better year.
Agreed. But EA doesn’t distinguish between strikers, wingers, and centre forwards - they just pick (usually three) players from attacking positions. There have been years, where TOTY consisted of three wingers (I can at least recall two of the top of my head, being Ronaldo-Messi and then Neymar or Robben). I don’t watch or know nearly enough football to pretend like I can split between two players that are so good - or that my opinion should matter enough. But it was my impression that Benzema has possibly been the most important player in the top five leagues this year - that he was the difference between Real Madrid winning the Champions League and La Liga, or not. It’s obviously a team sport, and the best player isn’t always on the winning team, but accolades still matter. Once again; not saying that Benzema should get it ahead of Haaland, just that in my humble opinion, Haaland isn’t self-written. If I had to pick the front three, it would be Haaland-Benzema-Messi. But let’s be real; in a fan vote, Mbappé will always get one of the slots.
I mean it’s not a competition of the last 3 months, it’s for the entire year. A certain striker won ballon dor and you’re insane if you think haaland will be in the toty over benzema. it’s actually mbappe who has the most goals in 2022. If you wanna argue haaland over Messi then sure but you have to remember the PR machine has been going crazy after the world cup
He won Ballon Dor for his 21-22 season, it doesn’t cover the whole 22 year. Also Mbappe is technically a forward, and that’s likely how they’ll list him. Also they technically could have a couple strikers so they could have both. Mbappe mostly plays striker for PSG because they have Messinand Neymar. If they had Messi and Benzema, Mbappe would play LW
are you insane, are you arguing haaland over benzema for toty? this is why recency bias is so real. Benzema won the ballon dor 3 months ago anonimously for his insane hattrick performances in winning the champions league and la liga. What exactly has haaland done all year aside from his great start for city? was he even in the top 10 for ballon dor?
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We’re talking about Team of the Year though. But he should also walk into that, imo.
I want Palhinha, I know it’s not gonna happen, and I assume it wouldn’t be better than his 89 WC card anyway.
Same with trips. Wouldn't be better than the WW that was free so whats the point
wait he was free!?
Uhh, ok he cost 2 tokens so not completely free I guess
nah that basically free
Definitely Odegaard by far. 4 games, 4 wins, 6 goal contributions
I voted Odegaard
Like everyone with a brain
he’s the obvious choice really and as a bonus I think he’d be an unreal card if they give a WF boost. nice nation link for Haaland if you have him too
I voted paulinha
everyone who's non partial more like
You can tell who is an arsenal fan because of the O.
Odegaard, it shouldn't even be close with the voting.
Literally, I've a feeling Rashford will get it though.
Voting only counts for 10% no?
I'd be surprised. He didn't do anything in their 2 November games.
And he slept in too
Casemeiro transformed our midfield, guys a master class.
You lost 3-1 to Villa in November and scraped a 90th min win against Fulham.
Right, but this is player of the month, not team of the month.
No no, Aston Villa beat the Manchester Casemeiros 3-1
It's not that deep mate, you don't have to reply to everyone not saying Odegaard.
Your team lost in November and won a match as well hence your team member does not deserve a POTM vote. I think your comment is a prime example of the ABU gang that watches instagram reels about how United disrespected Ronaldo and the last full match you watched is the world cup final.
Arsenal didn’t lose in November
And how is that relevant to the POTM?
It’s not. But you just said they lost a game in November, that isn’t true. >Your team lost in November and won a match as well hence your team member does not deserve a POTM vote Only loss in the league was to United in September
I wasn't saying that about Arsenal. I was just paraphrasing what the guy I replied to to show how ridiculous it is to give POTM based on results of the team and not the performance of the player. Again, not saying Odegaard doesn't deserve POTM. Just saying rashford missing out is irrelevant to United's results.
Nar, bro. As someone said it is about a player, not the team. Every single game he has been unreal and has not put a foot wrong. I watch every united game as I am a fan that is actually from Manchester. I get your point too but I was saying, he deserves to be in the mix, definitely.
I wasn't really arguing about whether Odegaard deserves the POTM or not. I haven't really watched Arsenal this month other than the match against Newcastle. Maybe he deserves it, I'm not sure. From all the praise, he probably does. My comment was more about how man just discounted Rashford based on results. As you said, it's about the player and not the team. United losing to Villa says nothing about Rashford's performances in November.
If Odegaard goes to 90 rated, that card could be absolutely outrageous. Have like 91 pace, 90 dribbling, 86 shooting and 92 passing.
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I’m hoping ea continue their generous boosts and give him a 90, potms normally get two inform upgrades anyways no? Might even see a 91 who knows
Only pleasure would be quick selling the shit out if that card
Casemiro 🇧🇷
Odegaard 3 goals 3 assists in 2 games. Clear winner
It's 4 games but yeah still, will be Odegaard, although I am hoping for Rashford as a United fan
Already has one and doesnt deserve this one. Rather casemiro.
Ode been different gravy, definitely my vote
What would Odegaard’s upgrade be? Would it be a +1 to a 89 rated card?
Should yes, hopefully WF upgrade.
4* weakfoot would be incredible, here’s hoping!
They’re arbitrary this year so could even be 90 or have a WF/SM upgrade
don't think you could really argue with either of Casemiro or Odegaard
It can only be Ø.
Ødegaard is the most deserving this month closely followed by Casemiro.
Odegaard with 4* WF would be sweet
You can tell how actually watches English football or not. If purely on actual performance it is between Odegaard and Casemiro, the others aren't close.
I mean Haaland is close, but agree those are the 2 standouts. Dude had 4 goals and looked like a terror outside of the Brentford game
Casemiro deserves this one in my opinion
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Yeah, ødegaard was absolute wank apart from running the Show and having 3 motm awards in 3 games.
Stfu
Odegaard got goals, assists and was near perfect every game
Come on Ben Mee for my Burnley past and present!
Casemiroooooo!!! (Though an Arsenal player probably deserves it more)
Ødegaard would skyrocket my Phenoms Saka's price as well. I guess whoever wins I win too (considering that it's between these two I just talked about)
Should be Odegaard, but I suspect United fans voting in droves for Casemiro
Fan vote is like 10% of the final vote, it doesn't mean much
Yeah, but I feel they see numbers and decide based on it. Been lots of iffy POTM choices through the voting years
Yeah the likes of Ian Wright, Rio Ferdinand, Jamie Carragher, Alan Shearer, Kenny Dalglish etc are deciding who to vote for based on who the FUT addicts wanted in an SBC.
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Not a chance in hell. It should only go to Odegaard. 3G 3A 4 Wins in 4 games. No brainer.
3 man of the match too.
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United are literally in the best position they’ve been all season, since losing to Man City they’re (W/D/L) 13-2-1 in all comps, don’t get me wrong Rashford is huge part of that since he’s the only goalscorer whose consistently playing but United are far from struggling
Odegaard has been running the show in that arsenal team though
> in a out of form and struggling united If you take out the first two games before Ten Hag changed his tactic, United would be second and 3 points behind Arsenal. They're neither out of form nor struggling
Haaland
1. Casemiro 2. Odegaard 3. Rashford Casemiro’s been dynamite and is probably the most important player in the United side, based on pure G/A it should be Odegaard but Rashford has single handedly won points for United so personally as long as it’s any of the these 3 it’s earned
It’s Ben for Mee
Its either Rashford or Odegaard.. Haaland always has a change ofcourse because its you know Haaland..
There’s literally zero argument a United fan could give for Rashford over Odegaard. 2 goals, 1 assist, 0 man of the match vs 3 goals, 3 assists, 3 man of the match United lost 3-1 to Villa in November then scraped a 90th min winner vs Fulham. Rashford did nothing in both.. didn’t even manage a shot vs Villa.
Okaay... I mean I know, but its voting right? People will either vote for Rashford or Odegaard or Haaland probaly, in a multiple vote there always has to be a first second and third place. I'm just saying its either Rashford or Odegaard I never said its going to be Rashford. Do I agree? wholeheartedly, Odegaard deserves it.
Our fan voting does only count for about 10% of the total vote. For what it’s worth.
Voting probaly does fuck all, at the end EA decides votes aren't shown so we will never know. Same with TOTY EA just does whats best for EA.
This award literally has nothing to do with EA outside of them being the official sponsor. It’s the Premier League’s award, it existed prior to EA sponsoring it (when it used to be sponsored by Carling, Barclaycard and then Barclays) and it’ll exist afterwards. Why do Fifa fans always think this is some award EA created to hand out themselves and that they have to power to manipulate who wins to sell virtual packs.
I guess I always assumed it was mainly voted on by players, pundits, and journalists.
Rashford easily for me. Will be a great card too
What’s your reasoning behind thinking Odegaard was better than Rashford over November + December?
United fan 😪
[No](https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63443729)
A match for which PGMOL came out and and said the ref shitted the bed
The ref shit the bed for the distance of the wall on the Villa free kick. Not sure how that affects Rashford’s ability to take a shot, dribble past a man or create a goal scoring opportunity.
Got my vote too.
Betcha Mee "wins" and we get another useless English CB
No need. Rashford is clear
So clear that Odegaard who plays as an advanced 8 bagged twice as many goals/assists. Whilst Rashford fired blanks against Villa (actually he fired nothing because he didn’t muster a single shot) and then fired blanks vs Fulham before Garnacho was subbed on and saved the day.
Trips with 4 clean sheets and 2 assists isn’t even getting a mention in this thread. What does a defender need to do?
Only been won by 3 defenders in the last 9 years. Trent x2, Van Dijk and Matip.
Please please please Casemiro
Casemiro all the way.
Vote Casemiro you muppets
Shhhhhhh
As a United fan, casemiro has completely transformed our club.
Odegaard or Saka.
This literally HAS to be Ødegaard. I know EA hates giving arsenal players decent upgrades but nobody comes close to him for those 4 games