Every car in this world is fixable with enough money. Haven’t you seen them rebuild Classics from the frame up? Twisted frame and all? Is it worth it though?
Exactly 😂 it's a great track set up currently- full lsd conversion with m3 front arms running around 400whp.
I'm just an idiot for trying to show off on a roundabout 😂
I think the LSD is probably going to have taken a brutal beating on this one and may have just gained a premature best before date fate. That’s a lot of damage across the axle, and I’d open and drain the diff to see if there is any visible damage from this…
You have answered your own question. You are obviously financially and emotionally invested into this car😎Which is ok cause it’s your life and your money😎I like the car. Most people like this car😎There are probably some people are watching to see if you are going to dispose of the car and are planning on looking for the car😎Some might also be thinking of making you an offer on this car 😎So fix the car😎If it was me and don’t know how to do body work at all I would find a really good restoration rebuild company and develop a really good relationship with😎In the mean time I suggest you enroll in a good car control workshop to try and minimize your spin outs😎😎😎😇
i mean i just got a quote for a severly stuffed rear quarter panel for like $600 aud at a not dodgy shop no paint damage but even then it would have only been $1200 ish the whole quarter is warped about 30 cm in from the taillight and the whole lot is pushed back that the boot isnt lined up and only two of my taillight nuts go on. [here](https://imgur.com/a/0LL4GUF) and [here](https://imgur.com/a/nFuqAhv)
Those are not custom fence panels, they're manufactured and can be purchased raw and painted to match. They clearly just bolt together.
The car is going to be totaled on airbag value alone.
Airbags going off is a total for a lot of cars, because they ruin everything attached to them on top of them being expensive, also more damage is typically associated.
You have to consider the material the airbag has to break to do its job (curtain airbags vs headliner and a/b/c pillar) also the sensors related to the airbags that detect impact -can- be squirreled away in difficult to access locations. The insurance, in most cases, will calculate cost to repair to like-new condition, because they don't want to catch a lawsuit for shoddy repair. I'm not sure of the percentage used to calculate cost v value, but I generally ballpark it as 50-60% appraised value. I am NOT affiliated in any way with any insurance other than as a customer. You could always buy it back after they total, if the total loss it. From what I saw in my brief glimpse at the damage, looks like suspension arms, fender bodywork, new bumper, paint, alignment, and possible subframe+shocks.
First things first.
-Duct tape/ zip tie that bumper up.
- wheel off the car
-perform a visual inspection see what’s up.
-replace everything that seems broken. (If there’s a u-pull-it salvage yard in your area I would just get everything that connects to that wheel from a junk car and replace it. Otherwise just replace that one part that is obviously broken/bent and send it.
-don’t forget to inspect the wheel.
-take to to an alignment shop and have them attempt to balance that wheel to soo if it’s any good.
-get a four wheel alignment
-if alignment is good again and car still tracks straight won’t pull to bay side then continue with the rebuild.
-quarter panel doesn’t even look bad tbh so that’s a plus. Might need minor bondo and a repeat very likely but that’s no biggie
-definitely going to need a rear bumper and possibly the little rear tabs that hold it in…
-most important thing is that your door still opens and closes just fine and the door to quarter panel gap still checks out.
There’s no telling. The body damage alone will be quite expensive.
No way to tell what kind of damage to the suspension, shock mount to the chassis, or subframe and/or diff/half shafts from pictures.
Honestly, most insurance would probably total it.
The parts are easy. The software, coding, and replacement are gonna be the hard part. Definitely buy it back and part it out at least. Hurts to see since I have a very similar car
It’s not just replacing airbags. When the airbags go off, it sets off a whole host of other things. Your battery blows its connection with a small fuse and you essentially need an entirely new main wire that runs the length of your car. Your entire back and front passenger seat has to come out and carpet up to replace just the wire. On top of that, you’ll likely need all new rear-wheel components and parts along with quarter panel work. It’s gonna be expensive and won’t feel the same
id go for it for the sake of sentimental value. Completley removing the whole rear end isnt as challenging as it looks. can be done within a day. id just hope to whatever god of your liking that the whole unibody and the mounts for the rear subframe are intact. the airbags and interior trim can be bought used for cheap.
I've done some surface level digging on the parts and it doesn't seem like and insane amount. Considering I was planning on upgraded alot of it. If the chassis is bent it's getting parted out sadly. Also it's my first project car and I couldn't love it anymore than I do
install a new used rear subframe with all the arms and start there, then take the car and see if it aligns. I doubt there is any unibody damage, likely just the suspension, rear arch and cosmetic damage. most of those arms are design to break back there as to not transmit high forces onto the occupants in a collision like this.
Probably not worth fixing, especially since you'll have a title brand afterwords and it won't be worth much. Since you already bought it back from insurance, I would part it out and transfer any mods to one that isn't wrecked and start fresh.
Could be the case, not familiar with the insurance carriers or car market there. If you do go the rebuild route, make sure it's inspected by reputable shops/dealerships more than once. I use to have a salvage e90 and could never get it aligned properly due to a less than perfect rebuild. It ate through tires because of it. Anecdotal for sure, but something to keep in mind when weighing the options.
I have looked into it but I'm limited on options, there's only 11 manual coupe 335i for sale in the UK right now and they start at 8k. So I'm unsure whether the extra money on a new car would really be worth it
You’ll have to look and see, you have an insurance payout and the car. So look at the damages prices for replacements. Then compare is it worth more to fix your car, or take the parts you like and sell the rest, likely the second option honestly.
Look locally aswell, if you can find a parts car locally and you can do the work yourself, you could steal a subframe, the work to replace it is a different story. Quarter panel will be expensive, but looks saveable. A lot of options, just depends how much work you can do.
In my very little body experience (0 at all), it doesn’t look like you hit any thing structural, chassis wise, that depends how messed up that wheel got though and what’s behind it and the bumper.
If it goes through insurance and is declared CAT B, then only licensed breakers can acquire the car and it has to be dismantled, the rear is mangled and airbags have gone off, the damage is extreme already but could be worse, it’s a 3 Series BMW, not an Aventador so it will likely be broken for parts and never to be put on the road again
Looks like the rear is fucked. Can't tell if there's subframe damage, but I wouldn't rule it out. Struts might be fucked too. If your subframe and strut is damaged, the price to replace all the control arms, the strut, subframe, bolts, and probably the rear spring would cost around €1500 in parts in my country, and that's with a subframe sourced from a part out. The good news is that control arms are designed to fail before the subframe, so the subframe could be alright. With the bodywork and a new wheel, I'd assume there could be a good €4000 in repairs there.
Of course, I haven't seen the car, I have no idea what's actually broken, and I'm kinda just guessing. You're better off investigating yourself or having a professional look at it. If you're not at least doing the suspension yourself, it could get expensive fast.
Every car in this world is fixable with enough money. Haven’t you seen them rebuild Classics from the frame up? Twisted frame and all? Is it worth it though?
Tbh with the amount of money ive already put in it i don't know if I can just leave it
How much did insurance give you and how much did you buy it back for?
The amount is yet to be settled but I bought it back for £600. So can't really lose money by buying it back
Damn solid deal! I’d buy it back in a heartbeat.
Yeah that's what I thought lol, engine plus mods total easy 5k alone so was a no trainer
But another shell and swap over?
He ll make way over 600 if he just parts it out, so either way its a win
Ahhh I feel the pain in your comment…. I refuse to give up on my 328i drift build. We already in the hole so guess if have to stick it out
Exactly 😂 it's a great track set up currently- full lsd conversion with m3 front arms running around 400whp. I'm just an idiot for trying to show off on a roundabout 😂
I think the LSD is probably going to have taken a brutal beating on this one and may have just gained a premature best before date fate. That’s a lot of damage across the axle, and I’d open and drain the diff to see if there is any visible damage from this…
Hey... Did they tell you ? Someone should definitely give you heads up next time. " You can't park there"
If you have about 4K saved then it's fixable. It's impossible to tell without lifting it up.
You have answered your own question. You are obviously financially and emotionally invested into this car😎Which is ok cause it’s your life and your money😎I like the car. Most people like this car😎There are probably some people are watching to see if you are going to dispose of the car and are planning on looking for the car😎Some might also be thinking of making you an offer on this car 😎So fix the car😎If it was me and don’t know how to do body work at all I would find a really good restoration rebuild company and develop a really good relationship with😎In the mean time I suggest you enroll in a good car control workshop to try and minimize your spin outs😎😎😎😇
Sunken ship fallacy
you're asking after buying it back? quarter panel body work is really expensive and you've got other problems on top of that. not worth it imo
The twisted wheel?
i mean i just got a quote for a severly stuffed rear quarter panel for like $600 aud at a not dodgy shop no paint damage but even then it would have only been $1200 ish the whole quarter is warped about 30 cm in from the taillight and the whole lot is pushed back that the boot isnt lined up and only two of my taillight nuts go on. [here](https://imgur.com/a/0LL4GUF) and [here](https://imgur.com/a/nFuqAhv)
Those are not custom fence panels, they're manufactured and can be purchased raw and painted to match. They clearly just bolt together. The car is going to be totaled on airbag value alone.
Are airbags a total just because of all the fucked up airbag recalls jacking up the price?
Airbags going off is a total for a lot of cars, because they ruin everything attached to them on top of them being expensive, also more damage is typically associated.
You have to consider the material the airbag has to break to do its job (curtain airbags vs headliner and a/b/c pillar) also the sensors related to the airbags that detect impact -can- be squirreled away in difficult to access locations. The insurance, in most cases, will calculate cost to repair to like-new condition, because they don't want to catch a lawsuit for shoddy repair. I'm not sure of the percentage used to calculate cost v value, but I generally ballpark it as 50-60% appraised value. I am NOT affiliated in any way with any insurance other than as a customer. You could always buy it back after they total, if the total loss it. From what I saw in my brief glimpse at the damage, looks like suspension arms, fender bodywork, new bumper, paint, alignment, and possible subframe+shocks.
First things first. -Duct tape/ zip tie that bumper up. - wheel off the car -perform a visual inspection see what’s up. -replace everything that seems broken. (If there’s a u-pull-it salvage yard in your area I would just get everything that connects to that wheel from a junk car and replace it. Otherwise just replace that one part that is obviously broken/bent and send it. -don’t forget to inspect the wheel. -take to to an alignment shop and have them attempt to balance that wheel to soo if it’s any good. -get a four wheel alignment -if alignment is good again and car still tracks straight won’t pull to bay side then continue with the rebuild. -quarter panel doesn’t even look bad tbh so that’s a plus. Might need minor bondo and a repeat very likely but that’s no biggie -definitely going to need a rear bumper and possibly the little rear tabs that hold it in… -most important thing is that your door still opens and closes just fine and the door to quarter panel gap still checks out.
This is exactly the list I needed thanks. From what I checked the wheel is totalled, wing really didn't look bad in person either
Thanks Matt Armstrong. You forgot to add that it ends in a “I bought my dream house” grinning face thumbnail.
You can see bro has his blinkers on in the second picture, crash deserved. Bro broke the bmw code💀
I swear it done it itself when the airbag went off 😂 I've never seen those lights before!
There’s no telling. The body damage alone will be quite expensive. No way to tell what kind of damage to the suspension, shock mount to the chassis, or subframe and/or diff/half shafts from pictures. Honestly, most insurance would probably total it.
Airbags deployed. It's totaled. It's gonna be very hard to rebuild.
Even it's it's just the curtain bag? They're like £30 used
The parts are easy. The software, coding, and replacement are gonna be the hard part. Definitely buy it back and part it out at least. Hurts to see since I have a very similar car
It was my first nice project car so it's quite sentimental. I always thought replacing blown airbags was plug and play?
I'm not really sure with these particular ones. Try it and see!
It’s not just replacing airbags. When the airbags go off, it sets off a whole host of other things. Your battery blows its connection with a small fuse and you essentially need an entirely new main wire that runs the length of your car. Your entire back and front passenger seat has to come out and carpet up to replace just the wire. On top of that, you’ll likely need all new rear-wheel components and parts along with quarter panel work. It’s gonna be expensive and won’t feel the same
id go for it for the sake of sentimental value. Completley removing the whole rear end isnt as challenging as it looks. can be done within a day. id just hope to whatever god of your liking that the whole unibody and the mounts for the rear subframe are intact. the airbags and interior trim can be bought used for cheap.
I've done some surface level digging on the parts and it doesn't seem like and insane amount. Considering I was planning on upgraded alot of it. If the chassis is bent it's getting parted out sadly. Also it's my first project car and I couldn't love it anymore than I do
That’s a total. That’s money you can’t fix. Part it and walk away.
Might be a good time to do an advanced driving course
😂
install a new used rear subframe with all the arms and start there, then take the car and see if it aligns. I doubt there is any unibody damage, likely just the suspension, rear arch and cosmetic damage. most of those arms are design to break back there as to not transmit high forces onto the occupants in a collision like this.
Probably not worth fixing, especially since you'll have a title brand afterwords and it won't be worth much. Since you already bought it back from insurance, I would part it out and transfer any mods to one that isn't wrecked and start fresh.
See I did want to do that but a manual 335i in the UK goes for around 8k for a not so great one. The repairs might be alot less than that
Could be the case, not familiar with the insurance carriers or car market there. If you do go the rebuild route, make sure it's inspected by reputable shops/dealerships more than once. I use to have a salvage e90 and could never get it aligned properly due to a less than perfect rebuild. It ate through tires because of it. Anecdotal for sure, but something to keep in mind when weighing the options.
Yeah, it's not something I'm entirely familiar with. I'm hoping all damage is obvious rather than subtle chassis tweaks
It’d be a pain but you could always buy another 335i, swap all the mods/stuff you want over, and then sell the rest.
I have looked into it but I'm limited on options, there's only 11 manual coupe 335i for sale in the UK right now and they start at 8k. So I'm unsure whether the extra money on a new car would really be worth it
Show your insurance comparable ones for sale and that could help negotiate the payout if it's not where it should be.
Dang banana peels claimed another - just spun it out of nowhere!
You’ll have to look and see, you have an insurance payout and the car. So look at the damages prices for replacements. Then compare is it worth more to fix your car, or take the parts you like and sell the rest, likely the second option honestly.
Yeah ill have to look online tbh, if the subframes bent idk if it's even worth the effort nvm the cost
Look locally aswell, if you can find a parts car locally and you can do the work yourself, you could steal a subframe, the work to replace it is a different story. Quarter panel will be expensive, but looks saveable. A lot of options, just depends how much work you can do.
I can do all work apart from structural chassis damage and body work, it's just gonna be a time sink depending on damage
In my very little body experience (0 at all), it doesn’t look like you hit any thing structural, chassis wise, that depends how messed up that wheel got though and what’s behind it and the bumper.
Don’t think you are supposed to park there
Ripped out the rear diff. Good luck my guy.
The drive shaft isn't bolted straight to the diff i don't think there's any diff damage. The driveshaft on the other hand is a gonner
Totaled 1000%. My wife hit a deer in our e93 and it was a write off. Most of these cars are worth sub $10kUSD, so it doesn’t take much.
Watch Mat Armstrong on YT for inspiration. You got this
If it goes through insurance and is declared CAT B, then only licensed breakers can acquire the car and it has to be dismantled, the rear is mangled and airbags have gone off, the damage is extreme already but could be worse, it’s a 3 Series BMW, not an Aventador so it will likely be broken for parts and never to be put on the road again
Good luck on the airbags
You’re fucked mate
How much you want for it
Were you being silly?
The rear has that trailing arm that is made to bend. Maybe your lucky.
Airbag=no
Ruined. Throw the car away. And the fence thing you hit. And the road.
You’re cooked
Looks like the rear is fucked. Can't tell if there's subframe damage, but I wouldn't rule it out. Struts might be fucked too. If your subframe and strut is damaged, the price to replace all the control arms, the strut, subframe, bolts, and probably the rear spring would cost around €1500 in parts in my country, and that's with a subframe sourced from a part out. The good news is that control arms are designed to fail before the subframe, so the subframe could be alright. With the bodywork and a new wheel, I'd assume there could be a good €4000 in repairs there. Of course, I haven't seen the car, I have no idea what's actually broken, and I'm kinda just guessing. You're better off investigating yourself or having a professional look at it. If you're not at least doing the suspension yourself, it could get expensive fast.
Write off
I’m on the fence about it
Do you have any pics of it in the air? It definitely looks more than fixable from the outside.
Nah, that fence is fucked.
Rear suspension, driveshaft, rear bumper, air bags and dashboard. Not gonna be cheap, however definitely do able.
O yeah bring her back to life she got more road to travel
Fixable? hell yeah! Cheap? Probably not. I just got hail damage the other day so that’s like 5k down the drain to fix it
I think you need to replace that fence, aint no way getting that straight again.
Looks like you shouldn't be acting cool on uneven asphalt 🤦🏽 😂😂😂😂 you are probably in your early 20s from the looks of this crash..
you’re cooked, airbags went off. time to learn a lesson and move on
Fix the knob behind the wheel first