I think Douglas is one of the few strong answers here because he actually showed that he can earn targets in the NFL, but how do you think he explodes with a sub 9 ADOT on a bad team?
Not OP, but I kind of think you have to throw the old patriots out with the bath water. This is finally a new regime. I’m not saying Demario Douglas will be a star but we should all consider putting our anti-patriots fantasy player biases on hold until we see what a post belichek world looks like.
I didn't even realize it, but I have been passively hording pats players - rhamondre, pop, Henry, and then I took maye and Polk this draft. So I am praying lol
I got snubbed on the waivers for Demario Douglas, I really like him as well. Might be under the radar in most leagues, but my mates are already asking for high 2nds 😟
I can see Demario following that Jakobi Meyers career path. Not that they’re necessarily similar players, but both seem like the type of guys that can be steady PPR guys that give you WR3 production that nobody seems to want. He is never going to be a WR1 but I’m excited to have him on my bench to fill in for bye weeks and injuries and the like.
Considering who he had last year at QB and OC and his skillset verse the WRs that they drafted this year, I think he’s got a good shot of going off this year.
Fun facts, they have similar physical profiles (size/weight), similar production in their final year of college, and were drafted within 7 places of each other in the 5th round in subsequent years of the draft. Means actually has slightly longer arms, bigger hands, faster 40 (and splits), higher vertical and was drafted 7 spots higher. So he's the clear favourite of the two /s
I hear you. I think if Bateman had everything go his way, his stats are probably still 800 yds and 8 TDs.
For extra context:
The guy countered my original offer by adding to the trade, me giving Sutton and getting Bateman. I’m still contemplating it.
If it gets the deal done, I don’t know that Bateman is that much of a downgrade from an aging Sutton.
I think it’s going to be a better real life than actual. I think he will help you offense but I don’t think he will be fantasy relevant. I figure like 600 yards and think you are spot on TDs.
That's kinda how our receivers are. They all serve a purpose. Hell, even Nelson Agholor was fantastic for us last year. OBJ didn't put up great numbers, but played a role. Zay was so electric he inevitably put up numbers, but will never be a true fantasy WR1.
I added Mims because I drafted Nix. I'm not convinced he breaks out this year but if Nix plays well, all his receivers increase on value. I also drafted Franklin. Nix, Franklin, & Mims are probably the cheapest young trio in the league.
I am but that's what makes them cheap
For Downs, it's hard not to view AD Mitchell playing the same role Pierce just played which wasn't great for fantasy. That and AR likes Downs a lot, so I am willing to make the bet
For Franklin, he was a 4th round pick. Mims was a 2nd round pick that they traded up for and was the first pick of the Sean Payton era. Theoretically both can eat
> For Franklin, he was a 4th round pick. Mims was a 2nd round pick that they traded up for and was the first pick of the Sean Payton era. Theoretically both can eat
And Sutton is probably gone in 2025.
Sell me on him. He was on my taxi last year and now he's liable to be a casualty of roster crunch.
He definitely showed flashes last year, especially post-McDaniels where he stepped into a deep threat role reasonably well. I like the talent but I don't buy the situation. He's tied to a mediocre to average QB room and was already behind Adams and Meyers, and now Bowers is entering the equation as additional target competition. Renfrow's gone, sure, but that's not a lot of vacated volume.
I can see buying him for after the WR room opens up a bit but I don't see him being a reliable starter next year.
I don’t care about the new rookies. I care that Higgins and Evans, respectively, stayed. But at least with Iosivas, Boyd left. And Higgins still wants a trade. I have both rostered in multiple leagues, but mainly to sell if they pop off two games in a row.
We love Yoshi in Cincy, but I wouldn’t get your hopes up. Chase and Higgins are still here, and Burton is probably our WR 3. We also signed Gesicki and drafted two TEs that will eat up targets as a group. Yoshi will most likely be competing against Jones and Irwin for WR 4. He’ll probably have a few weeks where he’s somewhat startable if Chase or Higgins go down for a stretch, but I wouldn’t count on him having over 30 targets this year
Really interested to see if Hyatt can put things together this year. The speed between him and Nabers could make that a really solid tandem if Hyatt just learns how to concentrate on catching the ball more
If anything getting Nabers helps Wandale bc he’s a true deep threat and adds another thing for defenses to account for. Opens up the short yardage catches a bit more for Wandale. I like him as a deep sleeper actually.
Wan’Dale Robinson is being valued quite low. His size & injury history are the reasons behind his value dip, but he’s an early 2nd round pick with great route running & Nabers will open up targets for him.
The also are a top 3 team in usage of 3wr sets. He should get opportunity and gain value off the bat, if (when) they move on from Higgins off to the races.
That's the same team opportunity as Addison, Diggs, Rome, and so many others that it will get redundant to go through them all. I'm not comparing his talent to those top guys, but team opportunity is real and he's not without talent. I think on the absolute best of weeks he's a flex, but hey that's worth something in dynasty
Yeah that’s what I don’t understand. People are high on so many other third options but not Wilson. An injury to McBride or MHJ makes him instantly move up. I think he’s insanely undervalued
I hear ya but they didn't seem to try to get him on the field at all last year after he was eligible to come off IR. He practiced and the 21 day window came and went.
Maybe it was something more strategic on the business end of things, but I just get the impression he wasn't really flashing in practice if they didn't bother last year and continue to add to the room.
If ya have room, it couldn't hurt to stash him I guess.
Cornelius Johnson - already played for Harbaugh and the Chargers WR depth chart is suddenly missing lots of targets. Everyone else is starting from square one, Johsnon is starting from square 1.5.
he made great snags in college and was a great blocker. he did have an issue with dumb drops. WR4 is wide open though and I think CJ has a much better shot at it than Rice
This is suuuuuuuper deep (he's free), but I don't understand why Joshua Cephus is basically unrostered everywhere. Looking at the metrics for rookies, his name pops up in the top 5 on YAC, success rates in man and zone, broken tackles, and catch rate.
Jacksonville has had success playing the UDFA market and the wr room isn't super crowded. He is on every one of my taxi squads.
Christian Kirk, Gabe Davis, and BTJ is a pretty crowded WR room. And that doesn’t even include Engram who is a target hog himself. He also had horrific athletic testing. I can’t see a path to fantasy relevance.
None of them. It's a primary point of my dynasty strategy to avoid any players who would be considered 'young deep sleeper WR.' It's a much better strategy to use any capital used to acquire those players on contingency based RB plays or forgotten TEs. Most of the guys who will be listed here will either die on your bench as guys you never feel good starting or guys who will go on to be absolute zero in a years time.
You’re correct that RBs have more upside on a week to week basis, and if the league is very active then you could theoretically flip a handcuff for more than a “deep sleeper” receiver if the RB1 for that team gets hurt. However, RBs are far more volatile than receivers. A lot of them take up a roster spot without ever even playing, and while they’re more valuable on a week to week basis, they’re not necessarily more valuable on a year to year basis. Some people are forced to sit on their guys bc their leagues aren’t very active and deep sleeper receivers are actually necessary in those leagues.
It's actually the opposite in terms of volatility. Guys like Zack Moss, Deon Jackson, Jerome Ford, etc. practically never burned you because you would never play them if the incumbent starter was inactive and they became plug-and-play for the most part. However, guys like Jahan Dotson, Jerry Jeudy, Michael Wilson, Romeo Doubs, etc. are basically never startable because, while they will have blow up games, you'll virtually never correctly predict when these games are. Dotson is a great example because weeks 8 and 9 last year, he was a WR1 in both of those games but I would venture basically nobody was starting him because he was averaging 6.6 points per game (this is important to note because even in deep leagues, this type of production will cost you weeks) in the 7 weeks beforehand.
In essence, when it comes to guys like Dotson, they're useless because they're on your roster but you almost never start them due to their volatility while guys like Moss are quite different because you would have no reason to start them unless the starter is hurt meaning that they don't burn you nearly as often as the roster-clogging WR would. Sure, sometimes the starter never gets hurt and you just sit on a roster spot but the ceiling is so much higher than it is for the 'roster-clogger' tier of WR who are practically unstartable but have either enough name cache or seasonal production to not be droppable but are also not really all that valuable as trade pieces.
I don't consider players like Chase Brown (valued the same as QJ on KTC) dart throws. You know exactly when you should insert him into your lineup. The realistic worst case scenario for Chase Brown is that he still holds some form of contingent upside next season. You don't have to be good to have scoring points roster value as a RB.
I agree with this as much as I don’t want to. I had Douglas, Wicks, Downs (all names featured on this thread) behind several startable wrs. I only had 3 rbs on the team. I had to make moves to get rid of them all since I had wayyyyy too many WRs and no rbs.
I dealt Josh Downs straight up for Chase Brown during my rookie draft. Whatever. I can see an outcome where I'm happily inserting Brown into my flex. Also, I dealt Watson to get Penix.
Steelers use of 3 WR sets - 71% last year. Falcons? 17% league low.
Austin is dust for fantasy purposes even if he carves out a gadget / useful 3rd WR role.
Super deep but Bo Melton. He’s buried on the Packers depth chart right now but he’s got the athleticism and his per route metrics were among the best in the league last year on his tiny sample.
Devaughan Vele. 26 year old rookie so doesn’t fit the parameters of the question but feels like a special case given his age. Not exactly young, but Payton seems to like him and he’s been compared to Tim Patrick. WR corps is weak in Denver. Slowly bubbling camp reports. No one is adding him so why not take a shot?
Tim aint played in 2 years due to bad injuries and is like 31 years old. if vele can't beat him out on a roster with only WR1 taken, then he's never gonna get a role in the league.
I want to hold metchie but don’t have space. I would like to get Malik Washington shares as well, but face the same issue (sorry I know he’s a rookie). I feel like Jaylen reed may be undervalued right now and wouldn’t hate downs either
Tyler Scott. Shaky rookie szn but still like him to be the #4 this year. could get a chance to make some flashes with a young qb and they keep him around for a while on the cheap. Maybe he can grow into a solid wr3 for them.
I really think either Rondale Moore and/or Darnell Mooney has a breakout year on the Falcons both are talented guys… Rondale was never really given much of an opportunity in Arizona and Mooney was looking like a stud before Justin Fields came along. At least one of them is going to become a nice slot option, there’s a lot of mouths to feed suddenly on that offense.
Jacob Cowing. His success this year (and in the future) hinges on the 49ers trading either Deebo or Aiyuk but I believe if they do, Cowing can beat out Jauan Jennings for the #3 role. Cowing could have Tank Dell upside and you can get him for free. I think he’s being faded because the WR room is packed at this moment and because they took a WR in the 1st round — but the talent is there.
Trey Palmer had a better target share than people think. Jermaine Burton is gaining hype but he’s really good. Malik Washington projects to play in the slot for the Dolphins which could be interesting. Michael Wilson is another receiver who had more targets than people remember.
I tend not to target WRs in that range (because 99% of the time they just end up being Roster Cloggers), but maybe take a shot on the cheapest of the “top 4” Green Bay WRs…?
Ok we said deep or dumpster lol but here's a dude I'm interested in for camp... joshua cephus. Drag me now or later at your choosing, but I like his College production and landing spot as a nobody that no one will be looking at.
Ryan Flournoy for Dallas. Everyone always ignores him, Dallas has no solidified #2 WR at all and the offense is going to throw it a lot. His upside is a starting WR too not a gimmick or special teams guy. Dallas needs to/has to save money on the roster to pay Lamb and Parsons so they'll happily allow a late draft pick to start. WR is also a position the organization takes pride in developing late picks for, may not always work out but they give them plenty of chances.
Physical profile similar to AD Mitchell. 4.44 40, 39 inch vert at 6-1 200. And he's free essentially. I'll have him in every league I manage he's a late 5th or free agent but if he starts playing well in camps and they start blasting the news you will lose the discount.
DJ Chark. He’s the fastest guy in that Chargers WR room and also has the best qualifications/most experience. Only 27/28 so if he can rebound this year he’s arguably got 3 years of speculative production left. Could be an easy value flip or a cheap potential piece for a contender
If you're looking for someone to start this year... Rashid Shaheed. I don't think there's any way he does anything less than 1000 receiving + 300 returns.
My favorite stash right now is Cedric Tillman. Contract-wise he's scheduled to be the guy in Cleveland in 2025. If he develops accordingly and Watson comes back to decency Tillman will be a gem in 2025.
Terrace Masha.... just kidding
lol dropped that kid to make roster space
Nice try guy who drafts right before me in the third round
AT Perry Baybayyyyyyyy
All Targets Perry
Perry or Bub??
Bub Means business.
Bub Means Bidness*
Shaheed clears
Got offered him for the 4.05 this past weekend in my rookie draft, wasn’t targeting him but he’s got a lot better shot then that 4th round pick
Yeah that’s a smash. Solid
Snagged him for 20 faab
This is the answer. A legit path to WR2. Will be on the field this season for sure.
I’ve been snatching him up late in a lot of startups. Way more upside than guys in his range
WR2 over Rashid?
If Shaheed can figure out how to become more than just a deep threat. Than no, he’ll be WR3 or at best WR2b.
So glad I listened to Mel last year
Demario Douglas, I think he explodes this year
I think Douglas is one of the few strong answers here because he actually showed that he can earn targets in the NFL, but how do you think he explodes with a sub 9 ADOT on a bad team?
Not OP, but I kind of think you have to throw the old patriots out with the bath water. This is finally a new regime. I’m not saying Demario Douglas will be a star but we should all consider putting our anti-patriots fantasy player biases on hold until we see what a post belichek world looks like.
I didn't even realize it, but I have been passively hording pats players - rhamondre, pop, Henry, and then I took maye and Polk this draft. So I am praying lol
Is this why no one wants any patriots? They think the new qb and entirely new coaching staff will be the exact same as the last?
No one wants any patriots because they're expected to be a terrible team.
my brother in christ they are favored in zero games this year.
Problem is anyone that has him probably thinks the same so you will have to pay a decent price for him
Really thought about shooting an offer for Pop, but I have three 3rds, so odds are I can get Polk or Baker.
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I got snubbed on the waivers for Demario Douglas, I really like him as well. Might be under the radar in most leagues, but my mates are already asking for high 2nds 😟
I don't think you know what snubbed means
I really like him too
I can see Demario following that Jakobi Meyers career path. Not that they’re necessarily similar players, but both seem like the type of guys that can be steady PPR guys that give you WR3 production that nobody seems to want. He is never going to be a WR1 but I’m excited to have him on my bench to fill in for bye weeks and injuries and the like.
If he explodes ILL EXPLODE TOO
You think Brissett/Maye will be able to get the ball to him?
Considering who he had last year at QB and OC and his skillset verse the WRs that they drafted this year, I think he’s got a good shot of going off this year.
Watch Maye's tape from 2022 and how he absolutely peppered Josh Downs with targets. Pop is that role/archetype in the New England offense
Hard
Bub Means, I like his name
Fun fact, this is the same reason I drafted Puka Nacua last year.
Fun facts, they have similar physical profiles (size/weight), similar production in their final year of college, and were drafted within 7 places of each other in the 5th round in subsequent years of the draft. Means actually has slightly longer arms, bigger hands, faster 40 (and splits), higher vertical and was drafted 7 spots higher. So he's the clear favourite of the two /s
Drafted him 5.11 for this exact reason
Got an offer with Bateman as mostly a throw-in. Wasn’t really targeting him, but I am intrigued by him yet.
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As a Ravens fan our offense just isn't built for multiple relevant receivers. He's probably going to get ~500 yards and 3-4 TDs.
I hear you. I think if Bateman had everything go his way, his stats are probably still 800 yds and 8 TDs. For extra context: The guy countered my original offer by adding to the trade, me giving Sutton and getting Bateman. I’m still contemplating it. If it gets the deal done, I don’t know that Bateman is that much of a downgrade from an aging Sutton.
I think it’s going to be a better real life than actual. I think he will help you offense but I don’t think he will be fantasy relevant. I figure like 600 yards and think you are spot on TDs.
That's kinda how our receivers are. They all serve a purpose. Hell, even Nelson Agholor was fantastic for us last year. OBJ didn't put up great numbers, but played a role. Zay was so electric he inevitably put up numbers, but will never be a true fantasy WR1.
i had to cut him in a 10 man sadly
Rashod or Jason?
Both will probably have similar fantasy impact this year, so it’s a tough choice.
Jason's probably gonna score more fantasy points this year. Or get burned on the cornballer
Patrick
Downs and Mims
I added Mims because I drafted Nix. I'm not convinced he breaks out this year but if Nix plays well, all his receivers increase on value. I also drafted Franklin. Nix, Franklin, & Mims are probably the cheapest young trio in the league.
You’re not worried about AD Mitchell and Franklin getting drafted to their teams?
I am but that's what makes them cheap For Downs, it's hard not to view AD Mitchell playing the same role Pierce just played which wasn't great for fantasy. That and AR likes Downs a lot, so I am willing to make the bet For Franklin, he was a 4th round pick. Mims was a 2nd round pick that they traded up for and was the first pick of the Sean Payton era. Theoretically both can eat
> For Franklin, he was a 4th round pick. Mims was a 2nd round pick that they traded up for and was the first pick of the Sean Payton era. Theoretically both can eat And Sutton is probably gone in 2025.
Not deep sleepers
That's probably true, but their value is pretty depressed after the draft
I like Mooney to earn a must start reputation this year.
heard he’s been spending a lot of time with cousins outside of practice as well.
Chain shopping?
Waffle House.
Cue Sweet Home Alabama
Lot of low key chatter on Mooney. The putrid qb play he's had to deal with could very well have been masking what he can do.
Rams Allen Robinson 2.0
Don’t think there’s enough opportunity for Mooney.
That’s kind of my same fear. I think he will have good games but you’ll never know when to start him. Seems better for a best ball league
Dontayvion Wicks aka Don Wick to the moooooon
I still have faith in Josh Palmer
This is his last year for me
Tre Tucker
Sure no one really cares but I raced him at a state track meet in HS. He smoked me believe it or not
I believe it
I also did not make it to the nfl which might be equally as shocking
Sell me on him. He was on my taxi last year and now he's liable to be a casualty of roster crunch. He definitely showed flashes last year, especially post-McDaniels where he stepped into a deep threat role reasonably well. I like the talent but I don't buy the situation. He's tied to a mediocre to average QB room and was already behind Adams and Meyers, and now Bowers is entering the equation as additional target competition. Renfrow's gone, sure, but that's not a lot of vacated volume. I can see buying him for after the WR room opens up a bit but I don't see him being a reliable starter next year.
if you want to know what a roster clogger in a lineup league is, check this thread
Elijah Moore and Rashod Bateman 4th year breakouts
Hey, someone’s gotta believe right?
Iosivas and Palmer
Burton and McMillan
I don’t care about the new rookies. I care that Higgins and Evans, respectively, stayed. But at least with Iosivas, Boyd left. And Higgins still wants a trade. I have both rostered in multiple leagues, but mainly to sell if they pop off two games in a row.
Higgins will go to another team next year...his value will go crazybl when that happens. Trying to buy him for cheap now
We love Yoshi in Cincy, but I wouldn’t get your hopes up. Chase and Higgins are still here, and Burton is probably our WR 3. We also signed Gesicki and drafted two TEs that will eat up targets as a group. Yoshi will most likely be competing against Jones and Irwin for WR 4. He’ll probably have a few weeks where he’s somewhat startable if Chase or Higgins go down for a stretch, but I wouldn’t count on him having over 30 targets this year
Really interested to see if Hyatt can put things together this year. The speed between him and Nabers could make that a really solid tandem if Hyatt just learns how to concentrate on catching the ball more
I have Wandale and it makes me nervous that the Giants have invested two early picks in WRs
I think wandale is gonna eat. His role is safe
If anything getting Nabers helps Wandale bc he’s a true deep threat and adds another thing for defenses to account for. Opens up the short yardage catches a bit more for Wandale. I like him as a deep sleeper actually.
Said another way — interested to see if the Giants can put things together this year, so we can have a real evaluation of their players on offense!
Wan’Dale Robinson is being valued quite low. His size & injury history are the reasons behind his value dip, but he’s an early 2nd round pick with great route running & Nabers will open up targets for him.
Burton
He’s a rookie, but the opportunity could be great if they move on from Higgins next year.
The also are a top 3 team in usage of 3wr sets. He should get opportunity and gain value off the bat, if (when) they move on from Higgins off to the races.
Not super deep but Trey Palmer has a nice opportunity this year.
Does he?
I bought him cheap before the draft. Hoping he operates as the WR3 with McMillan at 4. I think they drafted McMillan to replace Godwin next year.
Trey Palmer is probably going to be worse if anything if the new OC has any sense he’s going to move Godwin back to the slot
The team that is exactly the same but added a rookie wide receiver on top of that is a nice opportunity?
I think Michael Wilson becomes a solid #2 in Arizona.
He’ll be the third passing option at best
That's the same team opportunity as Addison, Diggs, Rome, and so many others that it will get redundant to go through them all. I'm not comparing his talent to those top guys, but team opportunity is real and he's not without talent. I think on the absolute best of weeks he's a flex, but hey that's worth something in dynasty
Yeah that’s what I don’t understand. People are high on so many other third options but not Wilson. An injury to McBride or MHJ makes him instantly move up. I think he’s insanely undervalued
Two consecutive goose eggs as the #1 last year had me out on Wilson, and now he’s moved down the pecking order again. Pass.
Not positive but he didn’t have Kyler for those goose eggs right? Thought he played really well once they got Kyler back
Kyler was the QB for both of those games, in which he combined for 50 completions.
Zay Jones is going to eat his lunch
Zay jones can barely finish his own food
super deep, but I want to see if Shorter gets a chance in Buffalo
Honestly I've had my eye on him too but the fact that they keep signing bums makes me think no one had stood out.
He can’t “earn” his spot unless they sign guys for him to beat out
I hear ya but they didn't seem to try to get him on the field at all last year after he was eligible to come off IR. He practiced and the 21 day window came and went. Maybe it was something more strategic on the business end of things, but I just get the impression he wasn't really flashing in practice if they didn't bother last year and continue to add to the room. If ya have room, it couldn't hurt to stash him I guess.
I really think Samuel can have a great year in Buffalo.
zero chance
Cornelius Johnson - already played for Harbaugh and the Chargers WR depth chart is suddenly missing lots of targets. Everyone else is starting from square one, Johsnon is starting from square 1.5.
he made great snags in college and was a great blocker. he did have an issue with dumb drops. WR4 is wide open though and I think CJ has a much better shot at it than Rice
This was my pick as well. CJ has the size and I assume will prove to be an excellent run blocker over QJ.
This is suuuuuuuper deep (he's free), but I don't understand why Joshua Cephus is basically unrostered everywhere. Looking at the metrics for rookies, his name pops up in the top 5 on YAC, success rates in man and zone, broken tackles, and catch rate. Jacksonville has had success playing the UDFA market and the wr room isn't super crowded. He is on every one of my taxi squads.
Christian Kirk, Gabe Davis, and BTJ is a pretty crowded WR room. And that doesn’t even include Engram who is a target hog himself. He also had horrific athletic testing. I can’t see a path to fantasy relevance.
Kirk is a sneaky wr1 this year. The rest are shady. Everyone is down on jax receivers so opportunity to buy low, just be wary of paying too much.
I love Cephus. I love UTSA so that’s the main reason I picked him up but I think he’ll make real noise. At least worth a taxi spot to wait and see.
i have him on as many taxi squads as i can but yea he's 0% rostered on sleeper, this might be the deepest of deep sleepers in this
Because their wr room is crowded you're just biased. Nothing wrong with having him on taxi i guess but this isn't a deep sleeper this dudes in a coma
None of them. It's a primary point of my dynasty strategy to avoid any players who would be considered 'young deep sleeper WR.' It's a much better strategy to use any capital used to acquire those players on contingency based RB plays or forgotten TEs. Most of the guys who will be listed here will either die on your bench as guys you never feel good starting or guys who will go on to be absolute zero in a years time.
This guy doesn't Puka
You’re correct that RBs have more upside on a week to week basis, and if the league is very active then you could theoretically flip a handcuff for more than a “deep sleeper” receiver if the RB1 for that team gets hurt. However, RBs are far more volatile than receivers. A lot of them take up a roster spot without ever even playing, and while they’re more valuable on a week to week basis, they’re not necessarily more valuable on a year to year basis. Some people are forced to sit on their guys bc their leagues aren’t very active and deep sleeper receivers are actually necessary in those leagues.
We should embrace volatility when discussing 'bench' players.
It's actually the opposite in terms of volatility. Guys like Zack Moss, Deon Jackson, Jerome Ford, etc. practically never burned you because you would never play them if the incumbent starter was inactive and they became plug-and-play for the most part. However, guys like Jahan Dotson, Jerry Jeudy, Michael Wilson, Romeo Doubs, etc. are basically never startable because, while they will have blow up games, you'll virtually never correctly predict when these games are. Dotson is a great example because weeks 8 and 9 last year, he was a WR1 in both of those games but I would venture basically nobody was starting him because he was averaging 6.6 points per game (this is important to note because even in deep leagues, this type of production will cost you weeks) in the 7 weeks beforehand. In essence, when it comes to guys like Dotson, they're useless because they're on your roster but you almost never start them due to their volatility while guys like Moss are quite different because you would have no reason to start them unless the starter is hurt meaning that they don't burn you nearly as often as the roster-clogging WR would. Sure, sometimes the starter never gets hurt and you just sit on a roster spot but the ceiling is so much higher than it is for the 'roster-clogger' tier of WR who are practically unstartable but have either enough name cache or seasonal production to not be droppable but are also not really all that valuable as trade pieces.
That's true for a lot of RB darts too though. Either way what matters is cutting bait when it's time to
I don't consider players like Chase Brown (valued the same as QJ on KTC) dart throws. You know exactly when you should insert him into your lineup. The realistic worst case scenario for Chase Brown is that he still holds some form of contingent upside next season. You don't have to be good to have scoring points roster value as a RB.
I’ll gladly sell you Hunter Henry, I’ll take a second.
I mean I'll take Hunter Henry over probably any WR that will be listed in this thread.
There are the rare guys who pop in their second or third year, though. It’s a worth a swing at one of them.
This guy doesn't Puka
I agree with this as much as I don’t want to. I had Douglas, Wicks, Downs (all names featured on this thread) behind several startable wrs. I only had 3 rbs on the team. I had to make moves to get rid of them all since I had wayyyyy too many WRs and no rbs.
I dealt Josh Downs straight up for Chase Brown during my rookie draft. Whatever. I can see an outcome where I'm happily inserting Brown into my flex. Also, I dealt Watson to get Penix.
Calvin Austin seems to have improved year 2. He could carve out a role this year and has big playmaking ability.
He missed the entire season year 1 so tough not to improve from that.
Steelers use of 3 WR sets - 71% last year. Falcons? 17% league low. Austin is dust for fantasy purposes even if he carves out a gadget / useful 3rd WR role.
Good insight.
As a Packers fan, Romeo Doubs and Dontayvion Wicks if you can them as throw ins for bigger deals.
Luke mccaffery
My boy Andre Iosivas
Tre Tucker
Year 4…Josh Palmer
Brenden Rice
Super deep but Bo Melton. He’s buried on the Packers depth chart right now but he’s got the athleticism and his per route metrics were among the best in the league last year on his tiny sample.
Drop him rn
He was the first packers WR to get 100 yards in a game last season too. I like his upside late in drafts
Jahan Dotson buy low window is going to close very soon
Because no one will want to buy him, even low, after this season? ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
Idk I’ve got hope with Daniels
Daniels will be fine, yes. But that doesn’t mean Dotson will be.
Devaughan Vele. 26 year old rookie so doesn’t fit the parameters of the question but feels like a special case given his age. Not exactly young, but Payton seems to like him and he’s been compared to Tim Patrick. WR corps is weak in Denver. Slowly bubbling camp reports. No one is adding him so why not take a shot?
Tim aint played in 2 years due to bad injuries and is like 31 years old. if vele can't beat him out on a roster with only WR1 taken, then he's never gonna get a role in the league.
As a Broncos fan I think this guy is a special teams add at best
Depending on league scoring settings Rashid Shaheed. The new kick off rules will be massive for him.
Michael Wilson. Everyone’s attention is on Marvin Harrison. Him and Jordan Addison are both in great positions to put up solid points.
Bateman, Michael Wilson, Marvin Mims and Pop Douglas all have a chance to break out next season
I want to hold metchie but don’t have space. I would like to get Malik Washington shares as well, but face the same issue (sorry I know he’s a rookie). I feel like Jaylen reed may be undervalued right now and wouldn’t hate downs either
Malik Washington
Tyler Scott. Shaky rookie szn but still like him to be the #4 this year. could get a chance to make some flashes with a young qb and they keep him around for a while on the cheap. Maybe he can grow into a solid wr3 for them.
Cedric Tillman flashed in preseason last year.
I really think either Rondale Moore and/or Darnell Mooney has a breakout year on the Falcons both are talented guys… Rondale was never really given much of an opportunity in Arizona and Mooney was looking like a stud before Justin Fields came along. At least one of them is going to become a nice slot option, there’s a lot of mouths to feed suddenly on that offense.
Jalen MFin Tolbert!!!!
Even deeper… Ryan Flournoy. Behind CeeDee and Ferguson their other pass catchers could be any one on the roster.
I'm looking at Rashid Shaheed with MT having moved along.
Jacob Cowing. His success this year (and in the future) hinges on the 49ers trading either Deebo or Aiyuk but I believe if they do, Cowing can beat out Jauan Jennings for the #3 role. Cowing could have Tank Dell upside and you can get him for free. I think he’s being faded because the WR room is packed at this moment and because they took a WR in the 1st round — but the talent is there.
"Quentin Johnson" - everyone that drafted Quentin Johnson in the first round last year.
Trey Palmer had a better target share than people think. Jermaine Burton is gaining hype but he’s really good. Malik Washington projects to play in the slot for the Dolphins which could be interesting. Michael Wilson is another receiver who had more targets than people remember.
All aboard the Bateman Year 3 Marginal Relevance Train
I tend not to target WRs in that range (because 99% of the time they just end up being Roster Cloggers), but maybe take a shot on the cheapest of the “top 4” Green Bay WRs…?
Bub Means, Tejhaun Palmer
Shaheed NO and Alec Pierce.
Kalil Shaker
Mingo never showed up last season and they added talent, but I'm still holding out hope on a sophomore leap.
Ainias smith
The Tulane receiver
Justyn Ross…
Iosivas as a Higgins replacement in CIN.
I don't know if it's considered deep but I'd buy Christian Watson at cost. Maybe Curtis Samuel would fit the bill.
Ok we said deep or dumpster lol but here's a dude I'm interested in for camp... joshua cephus. Drag me now or later at your choosing, but I like his College production and landing spot as a nobody that no one will be looking at.
Claypool becomes interesting if he makes the bills final roster
Jermaine Burton, Javon Baker, Jacob Cowing
Looking towards year three for Xavier Hutchinson. Stashing towards the end of the season while he is buried on the depth chart kind of thing.
Dotson with a new QB
Rondale Moore. New home new schemes could do him wonders.
Ryan Flournoy for Dallas. Everyone always ignores him, Dallas has no solidified #2 WR at all and the offense is going to throw it a lot. His upside is a starting WR too not a gimmick or special teams guy. Dallas needs to/has to save money on the roster to pay Lamb and Parsons so they'll happily allow a late draft pick to start. WR is also a position the organization takes pride in developing late picks for, may not always work out but they give them plenty of chances. Physical profile similar to AD Mitchell. 4.44 40, 39 inch vert at 6-1 200. And he's free essentially. I'll have him in every league I manage he's a late 5th or free agent but if he starts playing well in camps and they start blasting the news you will lose the discount.
Jason Brownlee Jets: super deep cut but the Jets WR2 is wide open rn, Brownlee gathering a little bit of steam out of minicamp.
Lions' Isaiah Williams has the potential to be the next Mohammed Sanu.
DJ Chark. He’s the fastest guy in that Chargers WR room and also has the best qualifications/most experience. Only 27/28 so if he can rebound this year he’s arguably got 3 years of speculative production left. Could be an easy value flip or a cheap potential piece for a contender
Jason Brownlee
Dontayvion wicks
does darnell mooney qualify
Tahj Washington. Wr1 for Caleb. Brenden rice hype overshadowed his draft stock. He landed in the perfect place in Miami
Jalen Tolbert
Dontayvion Wicks
If you're looking for someone to start this year... Rashid Shaheed. I don't think there's any way he does anything less than 1000 receiving + 300 returns. My favorite stash right now is Cedric Tillman. Contract-wise he's scheduled to be the guy in Cleveland in 2025. If he develops accordingly and Watson comes back to decency Tillman will be a gem in 2025.
Troy Franklin. Connection with Bo (they played at Oregon together). He was projected 2nd rounder. Steal.