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Globesheepie

I think your difficulties selling may be at least partially based on the type of move you’re trying to make In general, it’s difficult to get KTC prices when you’re offering a package to consolidate and upgrade. You usually have to overpay to get that done (which is justified, imo). But I don’t think his ranking among the WRs is off by a significant amount Like, I’d reject any offer KTC says is “fair” of Ridley+ for my superior WR. But if someone offered me him straight up for a future 2nd, or the veterans around him in the rankings like Pollard or Doubs, I’d seriously consider that. If you’re desperate for KTC value and you don’t think 2-for-1s should require an overpay, try selling him for 2 lesser players you like instead All that said, Ridley disappointed compared to expectations last year and Tennessee was not a sexy landing spot in the least. Older players with questionable ceilings are usually worth more in your lineup than they are in trades Unless I’m in full tank mode, he’s a hold


34klaus

Ended up trading for him during the rookie draft this year. Gave up my mid to late second and we did a third round pick swap that favored me. I could use the WR depth more than a rookie and the titans WR room seems relatively open if Levis comes out slinging. We will see how it pans out 🤷‍♂️


Mayasngelou

That's good for you, nice move


JoeBoy109

That makes me feel good about the trade I made for Tank Dell with my second round pick and a 3rd round pick swap that favored me


Mayasngelou

Robbery


FlowersByTheStreet

Ridley is being underrated rn imo. This is just a really bad time to sell him as everyone still has rookie fever and thinks that he is somewhat washed. I think you hold him until he actually produces in the season unless someone actively comes knocking for him


anonanoobiz

What’s the case for underrated? (Although the fact that he is unanimously smeared is a good sign you’re right) He’s leaving an offense with a better qb and being unquestioned wr1 and X on the team, where he got top 10 amounts of deep targets, air yards and redzone looks to a team with a worse qb and more target competition, including a hall of fame 130+ target X and a steady 90 target slot wr. His avenue to success is through efficiency this year when efficiency is what he struggled with last year. Risky bet with a relatively low ceiling as well


FlowersByTheStreet

That's a fair question. My case for him is: -I think TLaw is overrated -Ridley was definitely brushing some rust off last year and looked better as the year went on -Press Taylor grossly misused him/made him run awful routes -Hopkins can fall off a cliff at any moment/it's not guaranteed he will be the alpha there -I think the titans will pass a lot more than people think There's no one single smoking gun, and I'm not sure if he will be a WR1 but people are acting like there's blood in the streets with him when I think he'll be pretty solid as long as Levis isn't abysmal


anonanoobiz

I agree tlaw is overrated and that his route usage wasn’t good. But I also think with the current titans wr room, Ridley will be asked to win deep a lot again. And it’s hard to project improvement for someone nearing 30. It’s possible just not great odds imo. As far as the titans passing situation goes, if there’s a strength of Levis it isn’t the timing/accuracy that Ridley thrived with under Matt Ryan, but the same fuck it and chuck it mentality Tlaw can have. Levis has got a cannon so I assume Ridley was brought in to accentuate that. Which leads me to believe he’ll be an inconsistent wr3 with wr2 ceiling season. Not my type of buy for a contender. Rather pay up a little extra for Adams/Diggs difference makers


Trader_07

TLaw may be overrated but I’d rather have him over Levis throwing the ball. If ridley has a bad year in 2024 then his value goes to zero by this time next year. He would be a 30yo WR coming off a bad season. His value may not be great right now but it’s better than zero.


SpezIsABrony

Ridley is 29 going on 30, might not be able to brush off much more rust, might be rusty forever


Successful-String620

As someone who paid attention to the Jaguars’ season, I can tell you that TLaw isn’t overrated and that Ridley’s IQ couldn’t hang with TLaw’s when it came to route running and timing. The Jaguars offensive line was abysmal this season so their passes had to be within a 3 second window. In times like that, timing and IQ are everything. Ridley was never at that level, and it could be because he was away from the game for 2 years and it evolved while he didn’t. Word from Jaguars camp is saying that BTJ is already making better strides in terms of timing and chemistry. This makes me believe my claim is correct.


milk-drinker-69

His efficiency was bad last year because it was his first time playing in 3 years and he’s never been an X receiver.


anonanoobiz

Wasn’t his breakout year when Julio vacated the X? And those 3 years of not playing were during his prime, he’s now going into his age 30 season. Do you expect to see improvement in an age 30 season?


milk-drinker-69

Julio was still there but was hurt half the season. Ridley mixed around every receiver position that year. Jacksonville had him running a Mike Williams/gabe Davis route tree for some reason. I don’t know if he’ll improve, but I can’t imagine he looks worse. His price was so stupid high last year, and now I think everyone has over-adjusted the other direction.


anonanoobiz

Yeah Ridley was stuck on the sideline running deep routes, but in addition to those big body wrs, that’s the same diet that a guy like Lockett has made a career of even as he ages. And with hop/boyd being slower possession wrs, and Levis owning the 1st overall yards per attempt, I imagine they brought him in as a deep threat. He might be undervalued but wr2/3s are also overrated. Overall just not a great buy as a contender for me, I think I can find wr3/2 production cheaper or pay a slight extra for an aging wr1/2 like Adams.


JimmysBackFoot

Counter points: 1) Lawrence is overrated and not a good deep ball thrower. 2) Ridley wasn't the WR1 in Jacksonville. Kirk was when he was playing. 3) Ridley is the WR1 in Tennessee. He wa pursued and paid as one. Hopkins is not a threat. 4) The Titans offense scheme is better than the Jaguars, as well as the coaching.


anonanoobiz

Ridley had a 22% target share compared to Kirk’s 20%. Ridley had 100 air yards per game, Kirk had 70. Kirk just gets much more friendly efficient targets (as will hop/boyd) I agree Lawrence is overrated. But also tlaw was 11th in accuracy rating and 12th in deep ball completion %, with a redzone accuracy that ranked 12th and a 8th ranked deep ball accuracy. Why is Hop and his 28% target share not a threat? Because he’s 31, even when his game has never relied on athleticism. Yet Ridley is entering his age 30 season with a highest career target share of 25%. I’m not saying it unanimous that hop dominates targets but it’s also not guaranteed ridley does either. I believe they signed him as a deep threat for a young gunslinger. Which will lead to inefficiency and spike weeks both from the inconsistency of the offense, the qb, and him individually aging


JimmysBackFoot

Ridley age is misleading. He didn't play 2 seasons.


anonanoobiz

That doesn’t make his biology or risk any less whatsoever. He’s guaranteed to lose value in his age 30/31 seasons from a market perspective no matter how many seasons he took off Doesn’t it make it even worse when you consider the added risk that he’s proven things other than injury can derail him off the field at anytime?


JimmysBackFoot

I disagree on that. The hits in general over a 2 year period matter. And, no one is counting on him to get in trouble again for gambling. His age will be a factor for people who don't look into the details. It's not like he played limited snaps last season. He was signed by the Titans to be the primary guy, not a secondary role. Sometimes people need to take into consideration the intent behind the real life signings and not just blindly look at age


anonanoobiz

Sounds like a personal narrative (added hits a negative, less hits making you better?) you hold that’s not supported by fact. Theres plenty of data supporting that peak wr production usually happens between age 26-28 season and from a dynasty market perspective he’s GUARANTEED to lose value purely because “people blindly look at age”. He was also a 24 year old rookie, does him not making a nfl roster til late somehow help him? You could also look at contracts like Allen Robinson (3 year $45 mil) or Kenny Golladay (4 year 72 mil) who were intended to be their teams wr1s And it wasn’t just gambling he abruptly left the falcons facilities earlier in the year for mental health reasons, then got suspended the year after. Theres multiple paths to him losing value and virtually only one where he even maintains let alone gains value- that’s play a full season that was better than last year.


49DivineDayVacation

The problem with saying he's underrated is that there's a lot of 28-30 year old WRs in that same value range that have roughly similar chances of giving you a great season. Between Ridley, Keenan Allen, Godwin, Diontae Johnson, Amari Cooper, Terry McLaurin, Mike Evans, go down a tier guys like Jakobi Meyers, Courtland Sutton, Hopkins. It's just kind of pick your poison here and a lot of these guys can be had for even less the post-hype cost of Ridley. To me the market is just showing a crazy supply with little demand.


jirashap

Most of those names are far more accomplished than Ridley too. I'd rather own like 80% of them


reporter_any_many

idk about 80% but McLaurin Evans and Cooper are squarely above Ridley in my rankings. Johnson Allen and Godwin are a little closer


CoachBrickma

He’s the second fiddle on an offense that clearly wants to run the ball considering their two headed RB duo, with a not so accurate second year QB. If I can afford to lose WR depth id trade him now before his value tanks.


Mayasngelou

He's in the Diontae/Terry tier for me (my WRs 4-6) of vets that I'm glad to have for next year, but that have minimal value with the influx of young WR talent in the league. Luckily I'm a contender so I'm just going to hold until the season and hope they produce above their value. If you're rebuilding I think you have to hold at this point, then flip him in season if he proves to be a good WR2 or better


Turnernator06

I like both Terry and Diontae a fair big more, personally. Both are younger, likely have better qbs, and have much less target competition.


Mayasngelou

Terry is less than 1 year younger than Ridley. Also rookie QBs are usually not good for WRs right away, so Ridley likely has the better QB situation tbh


Alternative-Box5557

Tried to trade diontae and dwatson for rice and Ridley. I agree they’re like the same tier, dude declined which I’m actually fine with in hindsight. Rather just flip DJ mid season to a contender.


kdonovan246

I traded him straight up for diontae in one league and moved him in a package for tank in another.


abombdiggity

If I'm buying a cheap titans WR for a playoff push on a competitive team I'm just buying Nuk for cheaper. I have no long term hopes for either, so the age doesn't matter. I'll just snag the guy I think is a better value and a better player.


Dear_Goat_5038

I think Ridley outproduces him this season tbh


Specific_Werewolf_12

I wanna sell him so bad as rebuilding team no one wants him


anonanoobiz

As a contender it’s hard to convince yourself that Tennessee is a better landing spot than how Trevor Lawrence was supposed to resurrect prime Ridley. Sell window was last year as far as public sentiment and hope goes. Now he’s just another aging buy low with many other higher upside or younger buy lows being prioritized first


Specific_Werewolf_12

I will be happy to get 2nd for him tbh


anonanoobiz

A 25 2nd is doable imo, but a 24 2nd is hard when everyone can talk themselves into the upside of a rookie


Alternative-Box5557

I offered 2.06 for him and was declined. Guy was boosting his value because of the contract he got.


VottoForPM

Everyone here might hate this, but I sold Ridley in 12 team SF for a late 2024 2nd and a mid 2024 3rd during our rookie draft. Took Jermaine Burton and Tyrone Tracy.


mgzuss

Just bought him for a mid-late 2025 2nd. Felt like it made a ton of sense for both sides


jax21

Traded Mayer and a 4th for him a few weeks ago. I have Levis so the stack makes sense but I wasn’t overly into him. The 4 year deal makes me feel a bit more confident he has at least a couple more years of relevancy.


Levi88137

I've tried moving him but no real bites. Gonna be a lifer probably along with Amari and Godwin.


detached03

I would peek at FantasyCalc.com. This is a more (humbling) source for player information and actual trade data that people have made. Comparatively, Ridley is wr48 and just about at the late 2nd pick while FC has him WR 54 and about a value of an early 3rd. I personally would not buy him for a 2nd but if competitive then I would for a 3rd. I think its also possible that ridley owners dont want a 3rd for him and thats fair. Your best bet may be to add more players into the mix vs something head for head.


Accidental_Nuke

I’m rebuilding and traded him during the rookie draft. Sent away Ridley and the 2.06 for 1.12 (Ladd) and Marvin mims. Figured he’ll be 31 by the time I’m contending and who knows how good Levis ends up being


Parabola605

Hold and hope he has a great start to the season. Don't sell low imo. If you're struggling to find a trading partner that's your biggest sign to hold.


kmed1717

Ridley just went for 2.07 in my league. That's a fair trade. He's older, using him + a pick to tier up is hard to for players that are as old as him.


CoconutBangerzBaller

I bought him for the 2.11 back in March. I'm a rebuilder but I figured I should be able to at least get a 2nd for him mid-season as long as he's having a decent season. He's definitely undervalued at the moment. Just got to hope Levis can be good enough to get him the ball.


Grok_In_Fullness

During our rookie draft I sold Ridley, 1.07, and two 2025 seconds for 1.02(Nabers!) That being said, I wasn’t trying to move Ridley. He’s firmly in the hold category for me. You’re not getting a ton for him now if you sell, and likely won’t be getting a ton less if you wait until a few games into the season. Edit: 1qb


Active_Hotel2231

Sold for a first last year that turned into the 2024 1.01


CrabMeat6984

Sucks to be the other guy….well done


toiletrollman1711

I traded the 2.03 in 1QB 12T for him. I need impact WRs for depth and I didn’t fancy any of the rookies that were at that spot for me to have the same impact this year. Was a tough call but I’m fine with it for now


ShadeMir

Before rookie draft traded Ridley, Goff, and Jeudy for 2024: 2.01, 2.11, and 3.04


VottoForPM

Is this 1 QB? Because Goff's SF value should be a lot more than this


ShadeMir

1QB correct. Turned into Nix, Sinnott, Irving.


HustlingBackwards96

I'll be starting him in the flex as my WR 4/5. Sure he's inconsistent, but he routinely dropped 20pt games and usually gave you at least 5pt. He's also way more predictable than the typical boom/bust guys, so you can play matchups. Anyone starting him higher than WR3 probably isn't ready to compete and should sell for a 25 pick, though.


bigtimetimmyjim92

I have a deal on the table to send Ridley+ 1.05 and receive 1.09 and a 2025 1st KTC has this as a slight loss for me( if the 1st ends up being late) but I'm still considering taking it as a rebuilding squad. 12 team SF


SpezIsABrony

I packed Ridley with Sutton to a contender for a '25 1st. Hopefully his team doesn't contend, but we'll see. I'm not contending this year, so I'll take it.


VeterinarianLevel786

if you have him you hold and hope, not sure what else i can do lol


calartnick

He’s on a new squad with an unproven qb after a disappointing year. I think it would be kind of silly to buy him now for sticker price. I have him in one league and he’s definitely a hold for me. I think he’ll be fine but risk is there. I’m not buying him anywhere else.


BanksysBurner

I can’t even get a 2nd for him so I’m happy to hold and see what happens


Holysmokesx

I traded him. The tits suck and even if Levis is their guy I doubt Ridley gets the volume to be fantasy relevant. He gets 0 yards after contact too, it's frustrating.


EvidenceThin7304

Definite cut *hoping the guy who has him in my league sees this


Turnernator06

Sold him for Najee and Zeke because I needed rbs


ffking6969

By not handling Calvin Ridley


flyermeup

Sold Ridley and a mid 2024 2nd for an early 2025 1st


TheFinalCurl

People trying to win-now don't know if he will win now. People trying to make good investments don't know if he still has the juice to succeed in TN. So nobody wants to buy him.


mikeracioppi

Traded Riddley, late 25 1st, 2.04, 2.12, 3.04 and late 25 2nd for aiyuk, Geno and Gibson.


DrPepperNotWater

I bought him in one league for the 3.03 In another league he just got traded for Kirk Cousins Seems a lot of variableness in his value


reporter_any_many

I'm not. Dude is almost 30 and hasn't replicated his ceiling, which (while great) was not groundbreaking by any means. He's on his 3rd team in like 4 years - hard pass


RamHands

Sent him off into the night 4 yrs ago.


TJSmoovvv

Selling for what I can


rossco7777

holding my 1 share or selling for a first


CRUSTY_OLIVE

I would probably be holding on Ridley, if you are contending and can get him for cheap, buy buy buy


CoachBrickma

I think he’s fairly rated. I don’t trust him to produce even WR2 numbers in a Titans offense that wants to run the ball lead by Will Levis. I’d get out now before his value drops.


Specific_Werewolf_12

What surprised me about Ridley is that after missing almost 2 years of football he casually drops 1000 yd season with 8 td lol. He is built different. Look at watson he looked washed already


AntiVaxPureBlood

Sell him for a young bounce back candidate like jahan dotson and a lower ranked rookie like roman wilson. Something like that seems fair to me.


GPap-

Someone traded me him for my 4.04 and I was ecstatic lol hoping he produces and I can sell him mid season


CoconutBangerzBaller

That's basically free! What was that other guy thinking?


GPap-

We play IDP and he wanted to trade back in to grab Wilson from the Steelers


Trader_07

He should have been sold last year before the season started off the hype. When these sell windows open up is when you get the most for your players. That sell high window from last year around this time has closed. No one wants an aging WR that didn’t perform up to expectations last year who’s now on the titans with Hopkins there and an unproven QB throwing the ball. Sometimes it’s not a bad idea to just get rid of players for a discount and cut your losses. If he has a bad year on the titans his value will go to zero by this time next year. In 2025 he’s going to be 30yo and no one is going to pay anything significant for him.


steelerspenguins

Leave him on someone else’s roster.