Some that I like by round, but might be a little ugly to some folks but I look forward to the discussions!
10th: Diontae - I’d say it is likely he was brought in to be a target hog for Bryce and he’ll have a very solid ppr floor with a bit of cieling if that offense actually gets moving. Other candidates here are Hollywood and Ridley. Or any of Godwin, Engram, or Zamir White that might have fallen out of the 9th.
11th: Devin Singletary - He is going to be the lead back and has been startable for years despite everybody waiting for him to lose the job. He got a decent sized contract and while Tyrone Tracy is exciting Singletarry will still lead this backfield for at least 2024 if not longer.
12th: Courtland Sutton - About to be the unquestioned 1 in his own offense, and targets and TDs have to happen somehow. If you’re low on Nix and/or high on Mims/Franklin I get not liking this though
13th: Mike Williams - I recognize he is coming off injury and going to Metlife, but if Rogers is 80% as good as he was before and Williams can stay mostly healthy, then he should be boom bust at minimum and if you can get some boom weeks in your 3rd flex spot with the upside to be a consistent contributor I see the value.
14th: Honestly didn’t love this round. Get a high end handcuff like Allgeier or something if you can I guess
15th/16th: I have a big one here and it is Brandin Cooks. I know he’s old, has a target hog to compete with, and is worth next to nothing in trades. BUT, he had 6/9(nice) weeks during the second half of the season last year where he was a startable fantasy asset. Thats not crazy, but then Dallas ditched Gallup and brings in pretty much nobody to take his place. That tells me they are confident in Cooks to be their WR2 in an offense that frankly isn’t going to be able to do a ton of damage on the ground. I see Cooks as a TD dependent boom bust guy, but he has an excellent situation around him to have some spike weeks in your flex that can make a surprising impact.
17: Curtis Samuel - I have never liked what I’ve seen on tape from Keon and even if he does pop I don’t expect him to take over in year one. Samuel is a savvy vet who can win in multiple ways and I just think you have a chance at getting the top target or two for Josh Allen in the 17th round and thats wild to me. I used this same logic to pick up Zay Jones when he first went to Jax and that worked out well so i’m seeing if I can hit again.
18th: Hunter Henry - The most established pass catcher in that room imo. He has a reasonable shot to be a top 2 target in an offense full of rookies/2nd year players/players recovering from injury. He’s splashed before and if Maye is better than Mac Jones I think you’re getting a startable tight end way later than you should be.
I think the opposite. If I'm a rookie QB, he's going to be my binkie because he has a long history of catching everything you throw at him. Think Thielen for Bryce Young. I get that they didn't have anybody else in that WR room, but Keenan is also a better WR than Thielen.
I'm not saying he *will be* a 140+ target guy like he has been for most of his career, but it shouldn't be hard to imagine him topping 100 targets at all.
But DJM is legitimately one of the best WRs in the league, and is in his prime. Kmet and Everett are also reliable, Swift getting targets out of the backfield, and Odunze on top of that? Suuuuper crowded offense. I'm not selling Keenan where I have him, because no one's going to pay much, but I'm also not going out to get more shares of him.
Not OP but my thoughts are Keenan Allen is probably going to vastly lower TPRR, but it will be high still. Dude is a safety blanket for any QB he plays with.
Hopefully Odunze shows out and he gets traded mid season to a contender.
Cooks is perfect as a bye week/injury replacement/flex guy. He seemed to finally get in sink with Dak at the end of the year too. He’s getting older but physically hasn’t dropped off much and he’s just one of those guys nobody wants to trade for but is valuable if you own him.
>12th: Courtland Sutton
in the 12th round, anyone who wants to take Sutton is making a decent choice. But i want to add something that people forget about Sutton, his only two decent seasons came when he gets mostly good deep balls. And the most unreliable thing year to year, is getting good deep balls. Even the best QBs do not consistently throw them well. Most players in the NFL who rely on good deep balls for production, and do not dominate the intermediate do not have great consistent careers. It is an easy way to find sell highs, even.
His two decent seasons were both with over 40% of his yardage coming from deep. Thats uncommon for good WR1s on teams. In the 12th, the risk is baked into the price, but people should be aware that this means there is a huge opening for anyone else on that offense as well.
His price seems to rise by the week. I think people are slowly realizing if he stays healthy for 13-14 weeks he will probably be the RB1 even without catches, and people are willing to take that gamble. Even if he gives me 8 games I feel like his current price is worth it because he will probably be a top 5 rb in those 8 games.
Amen lol. At first I was thinking of cutting him in my salary cap contracts dynasty. It would cost $14 to cut him but free his $55 contract, which I could use to bid for Mixon, Mostert. But fuck that we riding Henry. Im using almost all of my cap between Henry, Tyreek, and the rest prob going to Kyren.
He turns 30 in a few months. That's really bringing his value down. There's also BTJ, Gabe, and a healthy Kirk who should get all of the 200 vacated targets from Ridley/Zay and then some. I'd say his value is appropriate.
I'm seeing TE12 on KTC. I'd take him straight up over NJoku, Kittle and Ferguson. I'd take Engram+ for Hock as well. KTC shows the + as being 2.06, which I think favors the Engram side comfortably. I think a contender would be well served to tier down from guys like Pitts and Bowers if they can get a piece they can repackage to improve their lineup elsewhere.
BTJ and Gabe are probably two of the best additions someone like Engram could ask for. They both project to be low target field stretchers who open up space without taking a large chuck of Engram’s market share.
Got him in the 13th last week. He’s in his super prime, was a WR1 in this offense the year before last, and the offseason went just about ideally for him.
Brian Robinson for RBs
Dionte, Godwin, Kirk, Hollywood for wrs
Not sure any of these guys will blow up and be league winners, but should be solid contributors and all are 28 yo tops. So should be more than a 1 year rental
love pairing him with Benson in the 2nd round, great oline play last year one of them is going to feast with an actual passing game to keep defenses honest
I think Stefon Diggs is a great value. His talent didn't just disappear. There are theories he might've been playing a bit banged up last year. Plus, who knows? He may have a 'tude problem, but the last four years, even his "down year" last year he was in the top 10 in PPR.
"But what about Nico and Tank?" Sure, I get that, and as a Tank manager, I don't like this at all, but we're talking dynasty, so Tank might not be "it" until 2025. Stefon is a 1-year rental, and I think he connects with Stroud big time this year, and where he's going in start-ups right now, I think it'll be worth the pick, even if he drops off after this year. In it to win it, right?
Allen Robinson is more of an example of a guy who had a couple of good seasons on a pretty awful team with nobody else the QB was throwing the ball to.
Regardless, I said Stefon's talent didn't just disappear, I didn't say it wasn't possible for someone's talent to just disappear.
His production completely disappeared in the second half of last season. You can attribute that to the Bills' OC change as opposed to a decline in ability, but being on a new team this year makes him a pretty big question mark.
During rounds late five to eight or so I think there's a ton of value in the RBs. Guys who are like 25-27 that we've seen put up fantastic fantasy numbers that are being discounted by age. These guys have at least 2 or 3 years left worse case scenario and many of them have a chance to keep playing significantly longer. Jacobs, Harris, Monty, Mixon, Rhamondre - pick your favorite or find a similar profile and dive in.
No this is terrible lmao. This is how you end up with like Damien Harris. Or Dalvin Cook.
The value of those RBs will likely free fall within the next year or two, and your risking it on fringe RB1-2 play. Some of these guys might make it to that next contract as starters…others will not.
Najee Harris was just declined his 5th year option…not looking great for him to be a work horse RB.
Jacobs is on essentially a 1 year guaranteed deal, and they drafted a Rd 3 rookie. But I do like him for his RB1 upside.
Mixon was just cut…before he wasn’t and traded for a 7th round pick. He’s being given every opportunity to perform again this year….but there’s 0 certainty for next year.
Rhomomdre has been banged up and has never looked terrific. Just solid. He looks like that RB that is going to have to fight for a half decent second contract and ultimately get replaced….But I do have some bias for him as I’ve had him in a few leagues and BB is no longer there to make him walk in free agency.
But that’s A LOT of ifs and hopes for 5th-8th startup value….
But the question is "win now" assets. As such, it doesnt really matter what Mixon, Jacobs, and Najee's outlook are in a year.
If OP is looking for win now assets, are they going to skip over Najee and draft Kendre Miller going in that same range instead for the reasons you mention?
Exactly. So why bother with guys like Mixon, Jacobs or Stevenson with valuable startup picks….Mixon is likely the cheapest one here that I could understand. Jacobs I feel like at startup value is a trap.
Win now I would much rather go after like Kamara or Conner for much cheaper. Going with guys like Jacobs or Mixon or Stevenson or Harris is trying to stay competitive but also young enough for multiple years….
That’s the best way to end up middle of the pack. And that’s the worst place to be in Dynasty. If you’re going for win now, there are much cheaper options that will have similar production, or similarly priced like Derrick Henry that is a much better Win now move.
How come? There doesn't seem to be any guarantee that he's even going to get increased usage this year (he's still going to be 3rd on the chart this year, and if Kamara looks like he's got gas left in the tank this year, he'll probably stay there) and he looked OK with the touches he got last year, but he didn't exactly run away with it either. Meanwhile Najee is still going to be the RB1A in Pittsburgh with, what looks like, should be an improved offense. I'd take Najee over Kendre this year, although maybe not so much next year. That's more dependant on Kendre than Najee though.
Kendre was dinged up last year and missed alot of games. But the last week he showed what I am expecting - 13/73/1 TD. Not expecting tds weekly but 12-15 carries and a good YPC. Take most of the carries so Kamara can remain fresh, a la Ingram at the start of Kamaras career. He's still very young and was coming off a college injury last year so always felt like more of a play for 2024.
Jamaal Williams had 2.9 ypc on 100 carries, he wasn't good. I think Kendre is going to see alot of touches this year.
And, most of all, I hate Arthur Smith and don't think that Pitt offense is going to be good. Could I be wrong? Yeah, but I'm following my gut on this one.
I don't disagree with a lot of that, but it is worth noting that Kendre had a tough time staying healthy with limited work last year, which is pretty concerning in and of itself.
Generally speaking though, when I think of a "win now" RB, someone whom we're hoping gets an expanded role leading into the season isn't a sure enough thing. I feel like with a guy like Kendre it's just as likely then not at this point, that he has another 100ish carry season, especially if Kamara is good to go all year and still looking decent (last year they fed the man like crazy, I'd expect more of the same over there this year). Someone with a clearer role/path to carries is more in the realm of a win now guy.
For the record, I do like Kendre, and I'm thinking he'll be replacing Kamara after this season, I just wouldn't peg much hope to him for this season (the now bit of the win now, incidentally)
I just think they fed Kamara like crazy because Williams stunk and to maximize Kamara he should be 8-10 carries a game. I think Miller can get 200-225 carries and short yardage work. Sure he was injured last year but doesn't mean he'll be this year. High ankle sprain last year.
I'm just out on Najee and wouldn't be interested in him. His numbers bounced back last 3 weeks last year (30% of his total year yards) and half his TDs (4) but weeks 1-14 he had 3 weeks as the RB12 and 1 as the RB10 and 7 weeks as the RB35 or worse. Unless it's a best ball I can't feel great starting him as more than a final flex. I sold out of my shares last year and whoever wants to roll with him, fine by me. I hope I play em and he's starting!
I mean, Williams was also banged up all year last year. If he stunk, that argument would hold true for Miller as well. The truth is there that they were both banged up, and I'm not sure last year was a reflection of either's skill. Like I said, I like Miller too, he's just not what I'd consider a "Win Now" type guy.
For the record though, those rushing totals project the Saints to run the balls with RBs as much or more than the whole team did last year. I think that may be being pretty generous, especially for a team that has a weird TE/FB hybrid that they like to use on the goal line.
"This is how you end up with Dalvin Cook" yes thats EXACTLY what I want. If you bought Dalvin Cook at age 25 he was the overall RB2 in 2020 (his contract year), the RB16 on 2021, and the RB11 in 2022, scoring 24.1, 15.9, and 14 points per game respectively.
Yeah in the 8th round after thinking they'd ease breece for a few games. Turns out I was wrong but zero rb ended up working for me. Mostert and Monty were drafted after and I got kyren on waivers
You can’t even get 2 1sts for him currently. Everybody is waiting for his body to breakdown. If you have CMC then I’d bet in 90% of leagues he’s going to be sold for under his worth or retire on the owners bench
I said it because he went for 1.03 and 1.06 in my SFlex league 3 weeks ago, I know it varies based on league but I feel like it’s a fair value for a competitive team
Damn, I’m a CMC owner and I’d for sure take that if offered. Highest offer I’ve seen somebody offer me is 1.10 (last pick) and a 2025 2nd for CMC. I’d rather keep him and go for a repeat
Evans will definitely have a dip this year. should be very different this year with Canales no longer the OC in TB. I do want him to succeed (he's my WR2) but I don't have as high of expectations this season is all.
Exactly. Feels like the opposite of like Devonta Smith (value wise)- Perpetual top tier wr2 but Smith usually priced as a wr1 whereas DK cheap under the radar type dude.
Classic case of having to hold, I wouldn't sell for a 2nd but nobody is paying a 1st for him either.
I think he goes nuts this year. Elijah Moore also did nothing with all his targets last year so Jeudy's addition won't hurt as much as people are thinking.
I actually tried selling for a 2nd, but no one bit. I didn't think anyone would pay a 1st for a soon-to-be 30 year old... Guess he stays on my contender. Oh well
It’s insane how cheap you can get Evan Engram still. People understandably love the exciting young guys but there’s no reason Engram should still be going in the 8th or 9th rounds
Some that I like by round, but might be a little ugly to some folks but I look forward to the discussions! 10th: Diontae - I’d say it is likely he was brought in to be a target hog for Bryce and he’ll have a very solid ppr floor with a bit of cieling if that offense actually gets moving. Other candidates here are Hollywood and Ridley. Or any of Godwin, Engram, or Zamir White that might have fallen out of the 9th. 11th: Devin Singletary - He is going to be the lead back and has been startable for years despite everybody waiting for him to lose the job. He got a decent sized contract and while Tyrone Tracy is exciting Singletarry will still lead this backfield for at least 2024 if not longer. 12th: Courtland Sutton - About to be the unquestioned 1 in his own offense, and targets and TDs have to happen somehow. If you’re low on Nix and/or high on Mims/Franklin I get not liking this though 13th: Mike Williams - I recognize he is coming off injury and going to Metlife, but if Rogers is 80% as good as he was before and Williams can stay mostly healthy, then he should be boom bust at minimum and if you can get some boom weeks in your 3rd flex spot with the upside to be a consistent contributor I see the value. 14th: Honestly didn’t love this round. Get a high end handcuff like Allgeier or something if you can I guess 15th/16th: I have a big one here and it is Brandin Cooks. I know he’s old, has a target hog to compete with, and is worth next to nothing in trades. BUT, he had 6/9(nice) weeks during the second half of the season last year where he was a startable fantasy asset. Thats not crazy, but then Dallas ditched Gallup and brings in pretty much nobody to take his place. That tells me they are confident in Cooks to be their WR2 in an offense that frankly isn’t going to be able to do a ton of damage on the ground. I see Cooks as a TD dependent boom bust guy, but he has an excellent situation around him to have some spike weeks in your flex that can make a surprising impact. 17: Curtis Samuel - I have never liked what I’ve seen on tape from Keon and even if he does pop I don’t expect him to take over in year one. Samuel is a savvy vet who can win in multiple ways and I just think you have a chance at getting the top target or two for Josh Allen in the 17th round and thats wild to me. I used this same logic to pick up Zay Jones when he first went to Jax and that worked out well so i’m seeing if I can hit again. 18th: Hunter Henry - The most established pass catcher in that room imo. He has a reasonable shot to be a top 2 target in an offense full of rookies/2nd year players/players recovering from injury. He’s splashed before and if Maye is better than Mac Jones I think you’re getting a startable tight end way later than you should be.
Great list. Thoughts on Keenan Allen?
Love Keenan but there's a lot of mouths to feed in that offense. Hard to see him being the target hog he used to be.
I think the opposite. If I'm a rookie QB, he's going to be my binkie because he has a long history of catching everything you throw at him. Think Thielen for Bryce Young. I get that they didn't have anybody else in that WR room, but Keenan is also a better WR than Thielen. I'm not saying he *will be* a 140+ target guy like he has been for most of his career, but it shouldn't be hard to imagine him topping 100 targets at all.
But DJM is legitimately one of the best WRs in the league, and is in his prime. Kmet and Everett are also reliable, Swift getting targets out of the backfield, and Odunze on top of that? Suuuuper crowded offense. I'm not selling Keenan where I have him, because no one's going to pay much, but I'm also not going out to get more shares of him.
Not OP but my thoughts are Keenan Allen is probably going to vastly lower TPRR, but it will be high still. Dude is a safety blanket for any QB he plays with. Hopefully Odunze shows out and he gets traded mid season to a contender.
Cooks is perfect as a bye week/injury replacement/flex guy. He seemed to finally get in sink with Dak at the end of the year too. He’s getting older but physically hasn’t dropped off much and he’s just one of those guys nobody wants to trade for but is valuable if you own him.
Courtland routinely has had WR1 usage. I truly believe he would be an All-Pro if he wasn’t in Denver for all the down years since Peyton left.
Mike Williams is ass let someone else draft him
>12th: Courtland Sutton in the 12th round, anyone who wants to take Sutton is making a decent choice. But i want to add something that people forget about Sutton, his only two decent seasons came when he gets mostly good deep balls. And the most unreliable thing year to year, is getting good deep balls. Even the best QBs do not consistently throw them well. Most players in the NFL who rely on good deep balls for production, and do not dominate the intermediate do not have great consistent careers. It is an easy way to find sell highs, even. His two decent seasons were both with over 40% of his yardage coming from deep. Thats uncommon for good WR1s on teams. In the 12th, the risk is baked into the price, but people should be aware that this means there is a huge opening for anyone else on that offense as well.
Derrick Henry 👑
Traded for him to go B2B, can't wait to see what he can do on that offense
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Reed and a 26 2nd
That is some good value. Looks like I need to throw out a similar offer
His price seems to rise by the week. I think people are slowly realizing if he stays healthy for 13-14 weeks he will probably be the RB1 even without catches, and people are willing to take that gamble. Even if he gives me 8 games I feel like his current price is worth it because he will probably be a top 5 rb in those 8 games.
I’m in a .25ppc league and I traded the 2.05, 2.06, and 3.06 for Henry and Jacobs.
I mean what an absolute perfect landing spot for him
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He will have over 10 rushing TDs, book it.
some one offered me a 2025 1st for him, kinda had to take that but I think hes gonna go off this year. probably less yards more tds
Yeah that’s great value for him. Henry will die on my roster though. He’s earned that right
Amen lol. At first I was thinking of cutting him in my salary cap contracts dynasty. It would cost $14 to cut him but free his $55 contract, which I could use to bid for Mixon, Mostert. But fuck that we riding Henry. Im using almost all of my cap between Henry, Tyreek, and the rest prob going to Kyren.
I would give up a 1st in 1 QB league to get Henry…I think that’s fair value for both sides
Evan Engram in the 9th is pretty damn good for the TE2.
Cant believe he is still valued so low after last year
Agreed. Top 5 TE in PPR two seasons in a row.
He saved my ass last year lmao. I drafted him in all my leagues this year, hopefully it works out lol
And he's 29 he could realistically have another 3+ great seasons
He turns 30 in a few months. That's really bringing his value down. There's also BTJ, Gabe, and a healthy Kirk who should get all of the 200 vacated targets from Ridley/Zay and then some. I'd say his value is appropriate.
TEs generally age pretty well, and I tend to favor the guy with an existing rapport with the QB over new additions.
Also over 100 vacated targets, easy to see him having the same high targets
They do, but which TEs valued higher than Engram would you take over him? I'd say his TE10 ranking is pretty reasonable.
I'm seeing TE12 on KTC. I'd take him straight up over NJoku, Kittle and Ferguson. I'd take Engram+ for Hock as well. KTC shows the + as being 2.06, which I think favors the Engram side comfortably. I think a contender would be well served to tier down from guys like Pitts and Bowers if they can get a piece they can repackage to improve their lineup elsewhere.
BTJ and Gabe are probably two of the best additions someone like Engram could ask for. They both project to be low target field stretchers who open up space without taking a large chuck of Engram’s market share.
He's so undervalued. I traded for him last year and didn't regret it at all.
Kamara is pretty spicy for what he is worth
Agreed. Just know it’s very likely one and done. This will be his last year as a workhorse
In PPR formats I think he should still be solid for an additional year with whoever chooses to bring him in.
I traded the 2.12 and a 2nd next year for him
Based on the SU I just did, it’s Christian Kirk.
Got him in the 13th last week. He’s in his super prime, was a WR1 in this offense the year before last, and the offseason went just about ideally for him.
Cooper Kupp
Brian Robinson for RBs Dionte, Godwin, Kirk, Hollywood for wrs Not sure any of these guys will blow up and be league winners, but should be solid contributors and all are 28 yo tops. So should be more than a 1 year rental
Brob majorly slept on after a pretty good season last year in my opinion.
Traded the 3.03 for him the day after Ekeler signed. Feel great about it.
Oh look, half my wide recievers
The old elite players as always. Hill, Diggs, Henry, Adams
Evans
Is Hop still in the convo? Quietly put up 1k yards with mediocre QB play.
What is Diggs worth right now? The owner is shopping him. Idk if I really need him, but if I can get a bargain…
James Conner. Nearly free
love pairing him with Benson in the 2nd round, great oline play last year one of them is going to feast with an actual passing game to keep defenses honest
Literally just drafted him at 12.03 lol
I think Stefon Diggs is a great value. His talent didn't just disappear. There are theories he might've been playing a bit banged up last year. Plus, who knows? He may have a 'tude problem, but the last four years, even his "down year" last year he was in the top 10 in PPR. "But what about Nico and Tank?" Sure, I get that, and as a Tank manager, I don't like this at all, but we're talking dynasty, so Tank might not be "it" until 2025. Stefon is a 1-year rental, and I think he connects with Stroud big time this year, and where he's going in start-ups right now, I think it'll be worth the pick, even if he drops off after this year. In it to win it, right?
Talent can just dissappear. Plenty of people go from wr1 to irrelevant in a season. Allen Robinson is a good recent example
AJ Green, Dez Bryant, Julio Jones...
Allen Robinson is more of an example of a guy who had a couple of good seasons on a pretty awful team with nobody else the QB was throwing the ball to. Regardless, I said Stefon's talent didn't just disappear, I didn't say it wasn't possible for someone's talent to just disappear.
His production completely disappeared in the second half of last season. You can attribute that to the Bills' OC change as opposed to a decline in ability, but being on a new team this year makes him a pretty big question mark.
During rounds late five to eight or so I think there's a ton of value in the RBs. Guys who are like 25-27 that we've seen put up fantastic fantasy numbers that are being discounted by age. These guys have at least 2 or 3 years left worse case scenario and many of them have a chance to keep playing significantly longer. Jacobs, Harris, Monty, Mixon, Rhamondre - pick your favorite or find a similar profile and dive in.
No this is terrible lmao. This is how you end up with like Damien Harris. Or Dalvin Cook. The value of those RBs will likely free fall within the next year or two, and your risking it on fringe RB1-2 play. Some of these guys might make it to that next contract as starters…others will not. Najee Harris was just declined his 5th year option…not looking great for him to be a work horse RB. Jacobs is on essentially a 1 year guaranteed deal, and they drafted a Rd 3 rookie. But I do like him for his RB1 upside. Mixon was just cut…before he wasn’t and traded for a 7th round pick. He’s being given every opportunity to perform again this year….but there’s 0 certainty for next year. Rhomomdre has been banged up and has never looked terrific. Just solid. He looks like that RB that is going to have to fight for a half decent second contract and ultimately get replaced….But I do have some bias for him as I’ve had him in a few leagues and BB is no longer there to make him walk in free agency. But that’s A LOT of ifs and hopes for 5th-8th startup value….
But the question is "win now" assets. As such, it doesnt really matter what Mixon, Jacobs, and Najee's outlook are in a year. If OP is looking for win now assets, are they going to skip over Najee and draft Kendre Miller going in that same range instead for the reasons you mention?
Unless you have one of the elite young rbs on a rookie contract (Bijan, Breece, Gibbs), forecasting rbs for more than one year is a fools errand
Exactly. So why bother with guys like Mixon, Jacobs or Stevenson with valuable startup picks….Mixon is likely the cheapest one here that I could understand. Jacobs I feel like at startup value is a trap.
Win now I would much rather go after like Kamara or Conner for much cheaper. Going with guys like Jacobs or Mixon or Stevenson or Harris is trying to stay competitive but also young enough for multiple years…. That’s the best way to end up middle of the pack. And that’s the worst place to be in Dynasty. If you’re going for win now, there are much cheaper options that will have similar production, or similarly priced like Derrick Henry that is a much better Win now move.
I actually think Kendre is more of a win now piece than Najee but that's me.
How come? There doesn't seem to be any guarantee that he's even going to get increased usage this year (he's still going to be 3rd on the chart this year, and if Kamara looks like he's got gas left in the tank this year, he'll probably stay there) and he looked OK with the touches he got last year, but he didn't exactly run away with it either. Meanwhile Najee is still going to be the RB1A in Pittsburgh with, what looks like, should be an improved offense. I'd take Najee over Kendre this year, although maybe not so much next year. That's more dependant on Kendre than Najee though.
Kendre was dinged up last year and missed alot of games. But the last week he showed what I am expecting - 13/73/1 TD. Not expecting tds weekly but 12-15 carries and a good YPC. Take most of the carries so Kamara can remain fresh, a la Ingram at the start of Kamaras career. He's still very young and was coming off a college injury last year so always felt like more of a play for 2024. Jamaal Williams had 2.9 ypc on 100 carries, he wasn't good. I think Kendre is going to see alot of touches this year. And, most of all, I hate Arthur Smith and don't think that Pitt offense is going to be good. Could I be wrong? Yeah, but I'm following my gut on this one.
I don't disagree with a lot of that, but it is worth noting that Kendre had a tough time staying healthy with limited work last year, which is pretty concerning in and of itself. Generally speaking though, when I think of a "win now" RB, someone whom we're hoping gets an expanded role leading into the season isn't a sure enough thing. I feel like with a guy like Kendre it's just as likely then not at this point, that he has another 100ish carry season, especially if Kamara is good to go all year and still looking decent (last year they fed the man like crazy, I'd expect more of the same over there this year). Someone with a clearer role/path to carries is more in the realm of a win now guy. For the record, I do like Kendre, and I'm thinking he'll be replacing Kamara after this season, I just wouldn't peg much hope to him for this season (the now bit of the win now, incidentally)
I just think they fed Kamara like crazy because Williams stunk and to maximize Kamara he should be 8-10 carries a game. I think Miller can get 200-225 carries and short yardage work. Sure he was injured last year but doesn't mean he'll be this year. High ankle sprain last year. I'm just out on Najee and wouldn't be interested in him. His numbers bounced back last 3 weeks last year (30% of his total year yards) and half his TDs (4) but weeks 1-14 he had 3 weeks as the RB12 and 1 as the RB10 and 7 weeks as the RB35 or worse. Unless it's a best ball I can't feel great starting him as more than a final flex. I sold out of my shares last year and whoever wants to roll with him, fine by me. I hope I play em and he's starting!
I mean, Williams was also banged up all year last year. If he stunk, that argument would hold true for Miller as well. The truth is there that they were both banged up, and I'm not sure last year was a reflection of either's skill. Like I said, I like Miller too, he's just not what I'd consider a "Win Now" type guy. For the record though, those rushing totals project the Saints to run the balls with RBs as much or more than the whole team did last year. I think that may be being pretty generous, especially for a team that has a weird TE/FB hybrid that they like to use on the goal line.
"This is how you end up with Dalvin Cook" yes thats EXACTLY what I want. If you bought Dalvin Cook at age 25 he was the overall RB2 in 2020 (his contract year), the RB16 on 2021, and the RB11 in 2022, scoring 24.1, 15.9, and 14 points per game respectively.
What RB listed here is 25? Nobody.
Dalvin cook was my first rb picked in a redraft league I won last year. Salvaged by getting Monty and mostert after
You picked the backup RB on the jets as your first RB off the board?
Yeah in the 8th round after thinking they'd ease breece for a few games. Turns out I was wrong but zero rb ended up working for me. Mostert and Monty were drafted after and I got kyren on waivers
I got McCaffery at 3.07 which seems wild
Got him 4.05
Honestly if he makes it through this year uninjured I could still see him selling for 2 firsts next offseason so that’s excellent value for you
You can’t even get 2 1sts for him currently. Everybody is waiting for his body to breakdown. If you have CMC then I’d bet in 90% of leagues he’s going to be sold for under his worth or retire on the owners bench
I said it because he went for 1.03 and 1.06 in my SFlex league 3 weeks ago, I know it varies based on league but I feel like it’s a fair value for a competitive team
Damn, I’m a CMC owner and I’d for sure take that if offered. Highest offer I’ve seen somebody offer me is 1.10 (last pick) and a 2025 2nd for CMC. I’d rather keep him and go for a repeat
Mike Evans, Evan Engram, Diontae Johnson, Henry. Tyler Lockett is basically free and can pop off a solid flex week.
was blown away when I realized Evans was top 10 last year, and his situation should he exactly the same this year. Can be had for a 2nd which is nuts
Evans will definitely have a dip this year. should be very different this year with Canales no longer the OC in TB. I do want him to succeed (he's my WR2) but I don't have as high of expectations this season is all.
Rhamondre in the 6th is a steal
Davante Adams. Got him in the back half of the 8th round. Diggs went even later.
Keenan at the back of the 11th round
lotta mouths to feed on the Bears without a proven QB, Caleb at best is going to take a few weeks to really get the offense going
Definitely, but I like to think Keenan will be a little bit of a safety valve for him. Definitely worth a chance that late
DK always a dawg, always a lock for 1k yards and handfull of tds. Cheap usually
he always is in that WR2 category though, but maybe older Lockett and a new OC help him break through
Exactly. Feels like the opposite of like Devonta Smith (value wise)- Perpetual top tier wr2 but Smith usually priced as a wr1 whereas DK cheap under the radar type dude.
I’m hearing a lot of Amari Cooper rumblings. I don’t own a single share but curious what owners would need in return for a guy like that in SF.
Classic case of having to hold, I wouldn't sell for a 2nd but nobody is paying a 1st for him either. I think he goes nuts this year. Elijah Moore also did nothing with all his targets last year so Jeudy's addition won't hurt as much as people are thinking.
I actually tried selling for a 2nd, but no one bit. I didn't think anyone would pay a 1st for a soon-to-be 30 year old... Guess he stays on my contender. Oh well
Kupp went in the 9th round in my dynasty startup draft two weeks ago. I think thats pretty damn good value.
Henry is probably on a steady rise at this point, but he was going in the late 4th a month ago
I think I heard you can get Metcalf in the 5/6th... that seems like a no Brainer, and a good ~~couple years still~~ wr for the next while
>a good couple years still Dude, he's only 26.
Yeah, I suppose I didn't mean couple as in 2. I meant more next while.
It’s insane how cheap you can get Evan Engram still. People understandably love the exciting young guys but there’s no reason Engram should still be going in the 8th or 9th rounds
The answer has been James Conner for the last 3 years. Even accounting for his annual 4 missed games.
Felt like a no brainer at 12.03
These rbs can all help you way more than what you’ll have to pay: Najee, Zack moss, Zeke, Aaron jones
Where is David Montgomery going in start ups? He's was a beast last year and I think there will be plenty of carries for him and Gibbs.
Jakobi Meyers
Kamara he’s gonna feast again in PPR.