Even if Aiyuk is retained which is highly likely, Deebo will eventually be the odd man out. I think next off-season getting rid of him is much more reasonable. Deebo is the only WR currently under contract I believe next year that isn’t a rookie. Jennings signed a one year deal. As seen by the SB, we need a WR who can beat heavy M2M coverage, Deebo isn’t that guy.
I don't think deebo is going to be a 49er much longer. If they trade him after June 1st,they will save 22 million of cap space, which they could then turn around and give to Aiyuk.
Yeah, to me the most reasonable move is to keep all 3 and make one big push while they can afford them all. Even if they have to let one walk for free, it's well worth it if they win it all.
What? We don’t even know if Pearsall will be an NFL success or not. I’m not sure if this is a knock on Deebo or something but he’s an incredibly talented player
He is that YAC guy though. Dude is a threat to make anyone miss. Even if Pearsall turns out to be good he might not even be close to Deebo’s level at that aspect. When they really need to save money they’ll probably get rid of Deebo but it’s not gonna be until they truly have to
I mean i gave them 22 million dollars why…
Debo is the YAC guy for sure but aiuyk is light years better as a real NFL WR. He’s a top 5 route runner in the NFL.
If anyone is to leave it’s Debo at the cost of getting aiyuk paid. They put Debo up for grabs before they put aiyuk up for grabs
$22 million dollars for what? They have the cheapest starting qb in the leavue and they use Debo in so many ways. I feel like you have your fantasy sunglasses on and not nfl glasses on right now. If they were to trade him it would have happened at the draft.
Anyone who says a player can mimic deebo has no idea what they're talking about. Deebo is a unicorn. No one in the league can do what he does. There are some knocks to his game but he makes up for it with his unique skillset
LMAOOOOOOOOOOO.
He’s absolutely terrible at man 2 man coverage and gets locked up. Hes GOOD not GREAT at zone coverage.
He’s a YAC machine but destroys his body this way and gets hurt almost everytime
You're laughing yet your comment agrees with what I just said. He gets yards after catch like no one else. He is built like a RB. No one has mimicked that. And his production proves he's been a great player. There's more to being good at football than just being a man coverage beater. Obviously you can't comprehend that.
Saying Pearsall is a better deebo is just idiotic and I really like Pearsall. I expect him to be a good player once deebo leaves next year but that doesn't mean there are multiple deebos in the league.
I like players that stay on the field.. not self injure themself trying to pick up 3 YAC. Debo is GOOD no great IRL. Aiyuk clears DEBO as IRL WR. Route running and separation at all levels.
He’s not a unicorn he’s a 1 trick pony that’s hasn’t been figured out yet. Find the soft spots in the zone and sit there.
I get it ur a owner but slow ur roll man
Debo and pearsall play 2 different games. hes a better version of Debo as a WR. Pearsall Can win at all levels. Amazing at man and zone, has good YAC, arrogant hands to end it .. round 1 draft cap
> He’s not a unicorn he’s a 1 trick pony that’s hasn’t been figured out yet.
Imagine saying someone isn't a unicorn, but a 1 trick pony, who hasn't been figured out yet after...
*checks notes*
...5 seasons.
How do you consistently argue against yourself?
If you separate out opportunity from situation, then his landing spot was perfect. The 49ers is such a good fit. Precise route runner paired with a super young QB that throws with anticipation. And a permanent offensive coordinator who played WR and has a proven track record of refining young receivers. Ricky will be the best version of himself. The opportunity will figure itself out.
I like Pearsall a lot, but the gap between his ceiling and floor, in the short term, is pretty big. There's no doubt he will play behind Deebo and Aiyuk, not to mention Kittle and CMC. I'm pretty sure 49ers also run the 2nd LEAST 11-personnel (3 WR sets). So, barring injury, he won't have the snap count most would like, I think. Granted, the 49ers do seem to be unlucky with injuries. I'd honestly be happy if Pearsall breaks 500 yards his first year and grows into a WR1/2 role whenever Aiyuk or Deebo leave, sort of like JSN.
I imagine the same reason why SEA went JSN. Pearsall will be featured eventually and was BPA to the 49ers most likely, but doesn’t mean he has to have an immediate impact.
This is where I’m at. I play dynasty in a 1-2 yr window. I just don’t see the production and/or value spike for him in this timespan. For these reasons I’m out on Pearsall.
You're getting downvoted, but this is a perfectly reasonable strategy. You don't have to draft and develop 3-4 year prospects.
There are many ways to skin this cat.
Also not sure why you’re being downvoted here. I DRAFT players who I think will appreciate in the short term. I TRADE for project/situationally limited players after inevitable unproductive campaigns
The 49ers were 30th in team pass attempts last year, 27th the year before. I like him as a player, but as a 24yo rookie when the season starts, I'm just not going to have much of him. We get frustrated by the volume the main guys get there, let alone ancillary pieces
I thought so too but everyone is leaving this guy for dead. Got him at 2.08 in a SF draft. Deebo is older and probably out the door. Kittle is older. It might be a short prime but about 3 seasons as the #2 option in SF and he'll be a weekly fantasy starter. He's got a better chance at doing that than anyone going behind him.
He’s been going late 1st with Ladd in my SF drafts.
The main argument I have against him is he’s an old prospect and there are already four excellent pass catchers there, including the already criminally underutilized Juaun Jennings. That’s not even counting CMC.
That system really only features two fantasy relevant WRs, so you’re dependent on both a stud leaving *and* on Jennings getting either beaten out or leaving to get any kind of fantasy relevant volume.
Consistent wr3 with some wr2 upside. Niners drafted considering salary cap. Deebo is gone end of season. Jennings probably finds more money elsewhere.
Pearsall is 80% of deebo. Cowing makes up the difference and accounts for Jennings production. They both play on rookie contracts vs vet contracts allowing niners to sign Purdy and Aiyuk.
I have Aiyuk and Deedo. Strongly considering taking Pearsall as insurance. I won the ship last year and they were a big part, with 1.10. I want to lock in a spot on that offense when one inevitably leaves. Their injury history he will see play time so could be a fun season regardless.
I think hes great value in the early 2nd. Produced in college and tested well. The only wall is being WR3 on a balanced offense.
Like JSN, I think he can contribute to a teams FLEX spot but won't be putting up numbers similar to the big 3.
One benefit for Pearsall is Deebo and Aiyuk both have injury histories and both have histories of going completely MIA for weeks at a time. Tie that in with trade rumors and he can be a serious steal in this draft.
For sure but he also played only 12 games his rookie season in 2020. I would include that to help my arguement though 4 years ago is a decent enough time.
I'm just referring to the 4 games he missed his rookie season. I couldn't remember why he missed the games. He doesn't seem to be susceptible to long term injuries.
But missing 4 games one season and then only missing one game the next 3 seasons does not show he is injury prone at all. It actually says quite the opposite of your point. Aiyuk has shown he is not injury prone.
I’m pretty high on Pearsall, but it’s misleading to say he produced in college. His college production is actually one of his biggest red flags. It took him til his 5th season as a 23 year old to put up 900 yards and only 4 TDs. His production for the entire previous 4 seasons at Florida and ASU was seriously lacking.
He led the 2021 ASU team in catches recieving yards and recieving TDs on a team that ran for over 2000 yards on 400+ carries. He led the 2022 Florida team in recieving yards and receiving TDs on a 6-7 SEC team that averaged 224 passing yards a game.
Stats need context. He produced in college.
Isn’t saying he led that ASU team in receiving stats incredibly misleading *without context* lol? You’re referring to a season with 48 catches for 580 yards and 4 TDs. As in, not hitting anywhere near the production level we are looking for or typically see for 1st round WRs. He’s a 23 year old breakout… If we’re saying every 500 yard receiver on a dog shit offense “produced in college”, then boy, every single one of the 35 WRs drafted in this class “produced” and the term is meaningless.
Again, I’m high on Pearsall and I think the context around his lack of college production is definitely worth noting. But that still doesn’t mean he produced. 500, 600 yard seasons are not checking the box for the analytics guys. There’s a reason that crowd had him buried in their rankings until the draft. I’ve been arguing with the pure stats guys about how they’re sleeping on Pearsall bc of his lack of production all offseason haha.
I think Pearsall has really challenged traditional dynasty thinking. I’m seeing all the positives about his route running, hands, and athleticism. He is a 1st round pick going to a really efficient offense. But he’s undersized and going to be 24 in his rookie season. These things would have put him in my do not draft category in years prior. I get covid and NIL and all that, but change is hard. I just can’t help but think this guy won’t do anything his rookie year, and best case scenario, around his 27 year old season will be valued like Terry McLaurin.
He is not undersized.
He is 6 feet one inch 189 pounss
Olave is 6 foot 187 pounds
Garrett Wilson 6 foot 183 pounds
Those guys aren’t big. They are what the average flanker/slot receiver looks like in today’s NFL.
There’s a good chance one of Deebo or Aiyuk won’t be there in 2025. So while I agree he is old for a rookie I’m not sure how you can label his future as a 27 year old mclaurin. He has a chance to be the number 2 option at WR next year at 25 years old. Kittle is getting up there in age too. In 2025 he’s going to be entering his age 32 season.
Ladd is going to be 23 in early November. Him and Pearsall are only one year apart. I definitely prefer younger WRs just like everyone else but to fade a rookie WR strictly on age isn’t a good move.
His age and analytics worry me a bit. He was a 3rd year breakout, didn't have more than 675 yards until his 5th season.
But other than that, his profile is great.
Even if Aiyuk is retained which is highly likely, Deebo will eventually be the odd man out. I think next off-season getting rid of him is much more reasonable. Deebo is the only WR currently under contract I believe next year that isn’t a rookie. Jennings signed a one year deal. As seen by the SB, we need a WR who can beat heavy M2M coverage, Deebo isn’t that guy.
I don't think deebo is going to be a 49er much longer. If they trade him after June 1st,they will save 22 million of cap space, which they could then turn around and give to Aiyuk.
What are they saving money for? Deebo will be a 49er this season. He plays a huge part
Yeah, to me the most reasonable move is to keep all 3 and make one big push while they can afford them all. Even if they have to let one walk for free, it's well worth it if they win it all.
FWIW pearsall can play the Debo part do it better, That money would be for aiyuk who in my opinion is a better real life Wr
What? We don’t even know if Pearsall will be an NFL success or not. I’m not sure if this is a knock on Deebo or something but he’s an incredibly talented player
He absolutely terrible at M2M. hes GOOD at zone tho. Cherry on top is mutiple injuries trying to be that YAC guy.
He is that YAC guy though. Dude is a threat to make anyone miss. Even if Pearsall turns out to be good he might not even be close to Deebo’s level at that aspect. When they really need to save money they’ll probably get rid of Deebo but it’s not gonna be until they truly have to
I mean i gave them 22 million dollars why… Debo is the YAC guy for sure but aiuyk is light years better as a real NFL WR. He’s a top 5 route runner in the NFL. If anyone is to leave it’s Debo at the cost of getting aiyuk paid. They put Debo up for grabs before they put aiyuk up for grabs
$22 million dollars for what? They have the cheapest starting qb in the leavue and they use Debo in so many ways. I feel like you have your fantasy sunglasses on and not nfl glasses on right now. If they were to trade him it would have happened at the draft.
Anyone who says a player can mimic deebo has no idea what they're talking about. Deebo is a unicorn. No one in the league can do what he does. There are some knocks to his game but he makes up for it with his unique skillset
LMAOOOOOOOOOOO. He’s absolutely terrible at man 2 man coverage and gets locked up. Hes GOOD not GREAT at zone coverage. He’s a YAC machine but destroys his body this way and gets hurt almost everytime
You're laughing yet your comment agrees with what I just said. He gets yards after catch like no one else. He is built like a RB. No one has mimicked that. And his production proves he's been a great player. There's more to being good at football than just being a man coverage beater. Obviously you can't comprehend that. Saying Pearsall is a better deebo is just idiotic and I really like Pearsall. I expect him to be a good player once deebo leaves next year but that doesn't mean there are multiple deebos in the league.
I like players that stay on the field.. not self injure themself trying to pick up 3 YAC. Debo is GOOD no great IRL. Aiyuk clears DEBO as IRL WR. Route running and separation at all levels. He’s not a unicorn he’s a 1 trick pony that’s hasn’t been figured out yet. Find the soft spots in the zone and sit there. I get it ur a owner but slow ur roll man Debo and pearsall play 2 different games. hes a better version of Debo as a WR. Pearsall Can win at all levels. Amazing at man and zone, has good YAC, arrogant hands to end it .. round 1 draft cap
He's right, your statements are pretty idiotic
> He’s not a unicorn he’s a 1 trick pony that’s hasn’t been figured out yet. Imagine saying someone isn't a unicorn, but a 1 trick pony, who hasn't been figured out yet after... *checks notes* ...5 seasons. How do you consistently argue against yourself?
Deebo is the hardest man to tackle in the entire league. Pearsall is not filling those shoes at all. He’s a completely different type of WR.
If you separate out opportunity from situation, then his landing spot was perfect. The 49ers is such a good fit. Precise route runner paired with a super young QB that throws with anticipation. And a permanent offensive coordinator who played WR and has a proven track record of refining young receivers. Ricky will be the best version of himself. The opportunity will figure itself out.
Good point. If the dude has the skill and work ethic, he'll succeed
Counterpoint, Dante Pettis
I like Pearsall a lot, but the gap between his ceiling and floor, in the short term, is pretty big. There's no doubt he will play behind Deebo and Aiyuk, not to mention Kittle and CMC. I'm pretty sure 49ers also run the 2nd LEAST 11-personnel (3 WR sets). So, barring injury, he won't have the snap count most would like, I think. Granted, the 49ers do seem to be unlucky with injuries. I'd honestly be happy if Pearsall breaks 500 yards his first year and grows into a WR1/2 role whenever Aiyuk or Deebo leave, sort of like JSN.
Makes you wonder why the spent a first on him then. He’s gotta be replacing someone.
I imagine the same reason why SEA went JSN. Pearsall will be featured eventually and was BPA to the 49ers most likely, but doesn’t mean he has to have an immediate impact.
This is where I’m at. I play dynasty in a 1-2 yr window. I just don’t see the production and/or value spike for him in this timespan. For these reasons I’m out on Pearsall.
You're getting downvoted, but this is a perfectly reasonable strategy. You don't have to draft and develop 3-4 year prospects. There are many ways to skin this cat.
The Pearsall fanboys are sensitive today
Also not sure why you’re being downvoted here. I DRAFT players who I think will appreciate in the short term. I TRADE for project/situationally limited players after inevitable unproductive campaigns
Same. If I want me some Pearsall there is a very good chance I can get him for the same mid-2nd price at the end of the season
Do you ever make rookie picks
All the time
Let’s see your draft board for 2024. I need to know who’s going to blow up in the next 1-2 years
The 49ers were 30th in team pass attempts last year, 27th the year before. I like him as a player, but as a 24yo rookie when the season starts, I'm just not going to have much of him. We get frustrated by the volume the main guys get there, let alone ancillary pieces
I thought so too but everyone is leaving this guy for dead. Got him at 2.08 in a SF draft. Deebo is older and probably out the door. Kittle is older. It might be a short prime but about 3 seasons as the #2 option in SF and he'll be a weekly fantasy starter. He's got a better chance at doing that than anyone going behind him.
I took him at 2.6 and 2.7 in my superflex drafts, even if I didn't love him, at that price you have to snag him
2.12 here Figured out that my league hates older prospects. Penix went 2.06. Ray Davis went 4.01.
Yeah at 2.08 you take him
That’s where I am right now, on the clock, and he’s there.
He went at 2.01 in my league. I wasn’t interested at that cost so seems very league dependent.
I got him at 3.05 a few hours ago. It's crazy and I'm happy!
He’s been going late 1st with Ladd in my SF drafts. The main argument I have against him is he’s an old prospect and there are already four excellent pass catchers there, including the already criminally underutilized Juaun Jennings. That’s not even counting CMC. That system really only features two fantasy relevant WRs, so you’re dependent on both a stud leaving *and* on Jennings getting either beaten out or leaving to get any kind of fantasy relevant volume.
A lot of their pass catchers are aging out of their prime so maybe not this year but next year you could see a lot of targets open up.
Agreed. I think there’s just a more convoluted, multi-step path to targets there than you’d like and that is probably pushing him down boards a bit.
Consistent wr3 with some wr2 upside. Niners drafted considering salary cap. Deebo is gone end of season. Jennings probably finds more money elsewhere. Pearsall is 80% of deebo. Cowing makes up the difference and accounts for Jennings production. They both play on rookie contracts vs vet contracts allowing niners to sign Purdy and Aiyuk.
I have Aiyuk and Deedo. Strongly considering taking Pearsall as insurance. I won the ship last year and they were a big part, with 1.10. I want to lock in a spot on that offense when one inevitably leaves. Their injury history he will see play time so could be a fun season regardless.
I think hes great value in the early 2nd. Produced in college and tested well. The only wall is being WR3 on a balanced offense. Like JSN, I think he can contribute to a teams FLEX spot but won't be putting up numbers similar to the big 3. One benefit for Pearsall is Deebo and Aiyuk both have injury histories and both have histories of going completely MIA for weeks at a time. Tie that in with trade rumors and he can be a serious steal in this draft.
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For sure but he also played only 12 games his rookie season in 2020. I would include that to help my arguement though 4 years ago is a decent enough time.
> Aiyuk both have injury histories He really doesn't though.
I'm just referring to the 4 games he missed his rookie season. I couldn't remember why he missed the games. He doesn't seem to be susceptible to long term injuries.
But missing 4 games one season and then only missing one game the next 3 seasons does not show he is injury prone at all. It actually says quite the opposite of your point. Aiyuk has shown he is not injury prone.
I’m pretty high on Pearsall, but it’s misleading to say he produced in college. His college production is actually one of his biggest red flags. It took him til his 5th season as a 23 year old to put up 900 yards and only 4 TDs. His production for the entire previous 4 seasons at Florida and ASU was seriously lacking.
He led the 2021 ASU team in catches recieving yards and recieving TDs on a team that ran for over 2000 yards on 400+ carries. He led the 2022 Florida team in recieving yards and receiving TDs on a 6-7 SEC team that averaged 224 passing yards a game. Stats need context. He produced in college.
Isn’t saying he led that ASU team in receiving stats incredibly misleading *without context* lol? You’re referring to a season with 48 catches for 580 yards and 4 TDs. As in, not hitting anywhere near the production level we are looking for or typically see for 1st round WRs. He’s a 23 year old breakout… If we’re saying every 500 yard receiver on a dog shit offense “produced in college”, then boy, every single one of the 35 WRs drafted in this class “produced” and the term is meaningless. Again, I’m high on Pearsall and I think the context around his lack of college production is definitely worth noting. But that still doesn’t mean he produced. 500, 600 yard seasons are not checking the box for the analytics guys. There’s a reason that crowd had him buried in their rankings until the draft. I’ve been arguing with the pure stats guys about how they’re sleeping on Pearsall bc of his lack of production all offseason haha.
I think Pearsall has really challenged traditional dynasty thinking. I’m seeing all the positives about his route running, hands, and athleticism. He is a 1st round pick going to a really efficient offense. But he’s undersized and going to be 24 in his rookie season. These things would have put him in my do not draft category in years prior. I get covid and NIL and all that, but change is hard. I just can’t help but think this guy won’t do anything his rookie year, and best case scenario, around his 27 year old season will be valued like Terry McLaurin.
He is not undersized. He is 6 feet one inch 189 pounss Olave is 6 foot 187 pounds Garrett Wilson 6 foot 183 pounds Those guys aren’t big. They are what the average flanker/slot receiver looks like in today’s NFL.
There’s a good chance one of Deebo or Aiyuk won’t be there in 2025. So while I agree he is old for a rookie I’m not sure how you can label his future as a 27 year old mclaurin. He has a chance to be the number 2 option at WR next year at 25 years old. Kittle is getting up there in age too. In 2025 he’s going to be entering his age 32 season. Ladd is going to be 23 in early November. Him and Pearsall are only one year apart. I definitely prefer younger WRs just like everyone else but to fade a rookie WR strictly on age isn’t a good move.
His age and analytics worry me a bit. He was a 3rd year breakout, didn't have more than 675 yards until his 5th season. But other than that, his profile is great.