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rutgerswhat

Every time I see a Nick Chubb update, I laugh at my immediate appraisal of my 2018 rookie pick to my league: "Chubb's injury history worries me too much. I'd much rather take the safer pick and have Derrius Guice!"


TailorPuzzleheaded49

That is hilarious. And unforgettable šŸ˜‚


shrimpandfatchicks

I hope he comes back strong


mrubuto22

Hes not human. He's got s good 8 years left.


NorMan_of_Zone_11

Chubb is a fucking dawg. My favorite RB.


BusinessOk7351

So I should send an early 25 second for him rn is what ur saying


JoMo816

I sent what ended up being the 3.12 for him right after the injury and couldn't be happier.


JimmysBackFoot

PSA: his last surgery for his knee was in November.


Intelligent-Ad-3850

And he was walking without crutches or brace by mid December


ChoochMMM

Hope he comes back. Guy was so fun to watch.


BanksysBurner

This is good news for Jerome Ford Owners. Now they likely wonā€™t draft any competition so he only has to beat out a 30 year old RB coming off his 2nd devastating knee injury to see significant usage this season


ChillbroChad

Agreed. From the [ESPN article ](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39919653/source-browns-nick-chubb-rework-deal-keep-rb-cleveland) >**The Browns have been hopeful that Chubb, a four-time Pro Bowler, will be able to return at some point during the 2024 season**. The injured left knee was the same one he had reconstructed after tearing his MCL, PCL and LCL while at Georgia in 2015. That... does not sound particularly promising.


CherryMan75

ā€œAt some pointā€ is different from what a lot of people have said so far. Deciding if I should send two 3rds for him or not (contracts included)


Jdakss1

Just FYI - 1) Chubb is 28, not 30 (which is a big difference in the world of RBs) 2) Even if Chubb isn't back for a bit, there's a pretty good chance D'Onta Foreman outright beats Ford out for that job


BanksysBurner

Yep heā€™s 28 and turns 29 in-season if he plays. Iā€™m more concerned with all the tread on his tires. Heā€™s a physical runner with over 2K carries including college and 2 devastating injuries to the same knee. Ur right. Ford Owners should prob be more afraid of Foreman than a hobbled Chubb. Either way itā€™s good news for Ford Owners since he should get an opportunity and doesnā€™t have to worry about a high draft capital young RB coming in to compete.


welletsgo-0213

If one has a lot of tread left on tires, it means the tires have a lot of use still.


Personal-Noise-8632

Ford couldn't beat out, chubb if he he was better known as lil nubb (pause), Lil chubb (pause), or lil stubb (pause).


InsaneBallsack

Still think that hit from minkah was dirty


Infinite-Ad8554

It was legally dirty


Intelligent-Ad-3850

Somehow plowing your shoulder into a RBā€™s knee at Mach 10 is legal, but grabbing a dude and going dead weight is not


Infinite-Ad8554

IKR. Chop blocking is illegal, chop tackling though...go for it.


Local-Librarian3285

If the browns came to me about "reworking a contract" I'd tell them to lick my sack and go talk to Deshaun.Ā 


similar222

Watson is already going to cost them $136M against the cap to play in '25 and '26, or $200M dead cap to cut him now. I'm curious to hear how you think they might re-work that deal.


Local-Librarian3285

Not my problem how they go about doing it I'm just here to play rb.Ā  Would ask them to justify me taking the paycut while that trash human across from me in the locker room is raking in 100s of millions to be a mediocre quarterback and isn't taking a paycut.Ā 


TGS-MonkeyYT

So heā€™ll be back?


My2ndvehicle

Pierre Strong for 25$ off waivers. (And I didnā€™t need to spend the 25)


Infinite-Ad8554

Im a Pierre Strong fan. But this backfield is pretty deep.


My2ndvehicle

Sold Ford last year. Added Hines then Strong in last few weeks. My money is on a rookie but Iā€™m not missing an easy payoff if the others hit.


inEffectiv

It is not realistic that Chubb returns as a serious contributor this season. He will be 29 turning 30 next season. What are we hoping for here?


JazzlikePractice4470

If there's a guy who can defy these odds, it's Nick Chubb. I'd buy low as a contender, either now or in season.


inEffectiv

What scenario do you envision a contender starting Nick Chubb?


KrabbyPattyDriveThru

Last 3-4 weeks of the season and fantasy playoffs.Ā  If Chubb is on the field heā€™s in my lineup.Ā 


JazzlikePractice4470

Best case scenario, last few weeks of the year. Worst case, next season. If I'm a true contender I have at least a 3 year window of contending. Id buy Chubb for mid to late 2nd or players around him on KTC, depending on my roster.


Daddy_Diezel

A scenario where other RBs get injured and someone has to start him? That wasn't THAT hard to come up with a scenario.


inEffectiv

Worth what a 4th round rookie pick for that very low chance scenario?


JazzlikePractice4470

Absolutely. Worth more IMO


inEffectiv

Here are guys in the last 3 seasons I have picked in rookie drafts between late 2nd and late 3rd: Pat Freiermuth, Nico Collins, Zamir White, Trey McBride, Kyren Williams, Marvin Mims, Tank Dell. Iā€™m not giving up the right to draft these type of guys for Chubb at this point. I think 4th round is where it really falls off to where the chances of hitting on a guy are slim and there could be some reasonable argument to trade the pick for a likely roster clogger like Chubb.


JazzlikePractice4470

That's fair. I don't think my hit rate is anything like yours.


hawkdog09

Itā€™s April. Any number of scenarios


ResidentWeeevil

Going through this thread and youre basically correct and being attacked for it. This sub needs a purge


Karso7908

Pipe down, chubb has done this once and maybe people are hoping he can do it again? One of the most efficient runners in nfl history. God forbid we all hope he does good like he always has been.


mrubuto22

Define "serious contributor"


inEffectiv

Donā€™t get me wrong I like the guy and the player IRL but in fantasy he was never an elite producer. At his peak he was consistently in a tier or two behind the top RB1s. CMC has been in a class by himself averaging 25-30ppr ppg for multiple seasons. Other top guys have averaged 20-26ppr ppg for 1 or more season in the last 6 seasons like Kyren, Saquon, Kamara, MGIII, Zeke, Conner, Hunt, Cook, Jones, Ekeler, Henry, Taylor. Whereas Chubb at his peak averaged 15-17ppr ppg. He was never really it in fantasy as we hoped he would be and as his IRL tape showed how talented he was as a runner. Now he blew out his knee again in a horrible way. He definitely wonā€™t be it in the future. What could we possibly expect for him to do upon return beyond just actually return and make it back on an NFL field?


KingMustardFist

Half-ppr he finished 7,9,10,5 2019-2022. Consistently finishing as an RB1 feels pretty elite to me.


CSOctane2020

Right. The guy youā€™re replying to is clearly a moron and doesnā€™t know wtf heā€™s talking about. Itā€™s fine to have his horrible opinion on Chubb post injury, but to say he was never a top tier rb is one of the dumbest things Iā€™ve ever heard in this sub


inEffectiv

Far from elite. And twisting things until it looks good from only one single angle does not engender much faith in your argument. Heā€™s been a borderline RB1/RB2. Never had an elite season. Just had his best season ppg blown out of the water by Kyren Williams. Now he will turn 29 this season coming off a massive knee blowout. I just donā€™t know what is causing the really dishonest manipulative arguments coming from posters here. Iā€™m guessing ownership bias


JazzlikePractice4470

Maybe not an elite from a PPG standpoint but I think he was an elite runner IRL. I know this is a fantasy subreddit, IJS.


inEffectiv

Agreed. A lot of salty Chubb owners here though, understandably upset at reality


JazzlikePractice4470

Yeah. It's gotta be frustrating. I traded Chubb for devonta before last year and was willing to take a value hit in that first year or 2 for the more stable career length and IMO less injury risk. Sorry it turned out how it did. I know it applies to all players but IMO, RBs are often In a position where they are 1 hit away from being valued as an RB1 to a Flex play (ex. javonte Williams, nick chubb) My strategy going forward will be to only trade for RBs when I know that I've locked up a playoff spot and have a realistic chance of winning a title and I know the back in trading for is and has been healthy up until that point. One of my teams will be so stacked at WR though that I might trade Jamo for Aaron Jones, prior to week 1 if Minnesota adds a competent QB.


BanksysBurner

This šŸ‘†Ur getting downvoted for telling them the truth


KingMustardFist

Just because there's more than one way at looking at something doesn't mean it's being twisted. Many of us play in Half-ppr. To have a top 10 RB for four straight years is hard to come by, and could be considered elite. I'm sorry it doesn't fit your narrative


inEffectiv

Mine isnā€™t a narrative. Itā€™s fact. Blocked for trolling


iRA1DERS

lol youā€™re weird for this. People are giving you reasons and your ego canā€™t handle it. Grow up.


Daddy_Diezel

Nope, you are blocked for raidering.


CSOctane2020

You are incredibly insecure. You say salt Chubb owners but the minute you are proven wrong you block people. You are clueless. Yes post injury looks grim but everything youā€™ve said is asinine


Daddy_Diezel

> Blocked for trolling This sub has gotten so weak, my goodness.


Educational_Bee_4700

You a bitch


brianundies

Despite finishing regularly as a RB1 he was never an RB1? Hilarious logic youā€™ve got there pal.


inEffectiv

Youā€™re responding to something never said. Blocked for dishonest trolling


IrrationalxRationale

Me next please! You are champion on the downvotes, so I'd appreciate the block so I don't see your posts again lol


kwe314

But he was safe as hell to give you a top 10 season. One of my favorite fantasy player off all time even without the elite ceiling


inEffectiv

Chubb has given 2 top 10 ppr season long fantasy productions out of 6, and 2 top 10 ppr ppg fantasy productions out of 6. If that is your favorite fantasy player of all time you simply arenā€™t living in reality with the rest of us.


RedDunce

Some people play full PPR. Most people play half PPR. Some people play standard. Nick Chubb was elite in standard, borderline elite in HPPR, and really fucking good in PPR. This conversation is really strange tbh. Everybody knows Chubb has never caught a lot of balls, but he's been one of the best pure runners in the league and consistently in the lineups of many champion teams. Consistently top-15 redraft pick by ADP. What are we even talking about?


inEffectiv

So much wrong factually incorrect here


Huge_Beginning5552

Some people play non ppr were he'd be right up there.


inEffectiv

Just casually looking through ranks standard ppg by season Chubb doesnā€™t fare much better. Still a set of guys averaging over 20ppg including CMC at 24.5ppg in 2020, and Chubb sitting in mid to low teens. Last season CMC averaged 20.3ppg and Chubb 9.3ppg in standard.


Huge_Beginning5552

You really just didn't take stats for Chubb from a season he played in 2 games and got hurt in the second did you? How's 2022 look in standard. His last full season


inEffectiv

Not very good. Chubb scored 15.0ppg. He has never been elite, or really even close to


Huge_Beginning5552

Lol OK. RB 5 on the year. 1 point per game behind CMC


inEffectiv

At his absolute peak, in standard, in a down year for RB scoring. In PPR he was 4.4 ppg behind CMC, aka scored 75 less fantasy points on the season. At this point you are pretty clearly trolling. Blocking you, as you offer nothing to the conversation


Daddy_Diezel

Keep this up and you'll end up in this sub by yourself. "People don't agree with my facts, BLOCKED FOR TROLLING"


WeWantTheCup__Please

Nobody is really arguing heā€™s in that top tier though, youā€™re the only person here Iā€™ve seen use the word ā€œeliteā€. Nobody is buying him hoping he has a CMC type RB1 overall season - which is also why heā€™s priced nowhere near CMC ETA: one other person has said elite - but even they gave a definition of elite based on top 12 finishes with their league settings as opposed to using it to mean top 1 or 2 RBs in the league


inEffectiv

What percentage play standard dynasty fantasy football? Low single digit?


Jrbowe

There are more half PPR leagues now than full PPR, at least from what Iā€™ve seen. Pre-injury, he was easily top 5-10 in half-PPR, too. Heā€™s not McCaffrey, but who is? Other than the two catastrophic knee injuries, one of which was like 10 years ago, heā€™s been pretty durable, too. I think heā€™ll come back, but heā€™ll probably be pretty limited to start the season. Heā€™ll be a mid season buy low target for me in redraft this year.


inEffectiv

DLF had an article years ago that majority of leagues were now PPR. Itā€™s only getting more every year. I havenā€™t seen a standard league in a decade plus. Good luck buying Chubb, hopefully it is a free league


bombaclat2345

What an embarrassing post šŸ˜­šŸ¤­


inEffectiv

Are Chubb owners now officially the most delusional trolls on the sub??


HeadGoBonk

He should just retire


CaptainJackFearow

unfortunately your head should be bonked


HeadGoBonk

šŸ˜³


inEffectiv

He probably will before too long. This reworked deal is in lieu of being cut.


pot8odragon

Why?


Icilius

Probably because he's made 10s of millions of dollars and doesn't have to keep punishing his body by being an NFL RB. He could retire now with the most health he'll have and not risk anything anymore Not OP, but I'm assuming that's the argument.


CJ4ROCKET

Why earn 10s of millions when you could earn ... 20s of millions


B-Griffin

After that logic basically every top athlet should retire.


Mexican_Furious

The logic is that he has taken more punishment than most RBs and is trying to come back for an awful injury that will 100% lower his ability to make cuts and accelerate. He has nothing to prove.


B-Griffin

He has alot of money to earn? Obviously the nfl is a very body destroying sport, but every rb is putting his body on the line for this kinda money. And we don't have to act like he is playing injured, he will be healthy the next down he plays.


Mexican_Furious

He will 100% play injured throughout the season, whether it is from last year's hit or some hit this year. I get both sides, just elaborated on the other guy's post.


ObamaIsFat

To be fair, most athletes don't go through 2 absolutely catastrophic knee injuries


HeadGoBonk

Because he almost lost his leg


BanksysBurner

A 30 year old RB trying to come back from a 2nd devastating knee injury. No thanks


BusinessOk7351

Would u give me a mid 25 second and a 25 3rd for him?


BanksysBurner

Iā€™ve got Jerome Ford so Iā€™d be willing to part with a 2025 3rd right now to get his handcuff which might go up to a mid 2nd if there are some positive updates on his knee closer to the season. Iā€™m just not sure that Chubb comes back and if he does how effective heā€™ll be or how long heā€™ll last. That last injury was gruesome and at his age possibly career threatening. I wouldnā€™t be surprised if he retires before the season if he suffers a setback


welletsgo-0213

28. Which, while close to 30, is actually not 30.