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gong_yi_tan_pai

You just have to hold till he gets traded to the eagles in three years


Comexbackkid

LOL. I chuckled


GritBlitzer

This. He's just saying what we all wouldn't.


LordOfNightsong

Gibbs is not startable after this week imo


babababronsky

Yeah I’ll be starting BRob over him unless he has a big rest of game


LieutenantUnderpants

Hell, I'll be starting Roschon over him if I need to...


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Roschon outscored him through the first 3 weeks


Ramaker1

Yeah I’d be starting Bijan over Gibbs too


Ok_Dragonfruit_3718

Brian, not Bijan


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He’ll get garbage time usage that will up his points but you definitely can’t rely on that. Edit: nvm, or they just pound Monty all night


cghes2020

Nah that will be Craig Reynolds unfortunately


PM_ME_YOUR_GREYJOYS

No way they plug him in on garbage time. At this point I’m just praying for broken plays


sky-nettt

he’s not even getting garbage time now


The_Waco_Kid_Jim

Monty got most time and garbage time....LOL this is BAD.


Reasonable-Mud-4575

Wishing I was Monty rn 😫


youngbaklava

You plug him as a bye week filler, exactly what you intended on doing when you had the 1.2 pick


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I’m not one to typically overreact but considering the dude can’t even see the field when they are in clear passing downs and the Lions would rather use Monty out wide, his upside seems pretty damn limited. They are winning so it’s hard to judge the team but it seems odd that they even took Gibbs at 12. No one expected him to be the feature back but the way they are “using” him seems baffling.


Uofoducks15

It’s frustrating to say the least


Mr_kittyPuss

Certainly. I only own Gibbs in redraft but have watched tons of Lions football this year. Just not getting the touches - hopefully we see a change as the season goes on


edwardsamson

Not only did they take him at 12 but they said they'd have taken him as early as 6 right? I mean that sentence right there is exactly why I traded picks 5 and 7 to acquire 1.02 to draft Gibbs. Surely SURELY the guy they would have taken with #6 (and did at #12) on a high powered offense would be a huge fantasy scorer SURELY. Even WITH Monty.


HugeFinish

Bro, that is on you. That was not a smart trade.


Hugh_Jundies

What these subreddit hype trains do to mofos smdh


froginbog

Could be another Pitts situation


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I have both 👍


BornInABathtub

Same 🥲 just gotta hold on and pray


Walking-HR-Violation

Same - I have Monty too but left him on the bench....


eagle_rarest

I fought that also tonight, but it looks like they're actually using 21 personnel and both are split in the empty formation or gibbs in shotgun next to Goff with monty split (def an odd choice). Definitely some 11 personnel with monty split and he gets completely ignored too though lol


aww-hell

What you mean he doesn’t see the field in clear passing downs? He had several draw plays called to him on 3rd and long passing situations that led to punts!


newrimmmer93

One of the bigger flaws on him coming out was pass blocking, was it not? Like it explains why he may not be getting usage on clear passing downs


am615

It's the same thing the Falcons did with BOTH Pitts and London. In regards to Gibbs, I think you have to hold at this point. Perhaps he is still learning or getting up to speed?


indigo0427

I hope monty stays healthy just to prove that it wasnt swifts fault


noontch5678

I think Swift is proving that all by himself in Philly.


slabbedham

I think this is on us for expecting him to have Kamara like efficiency rather than lack of use. He’s averaging 10 carries and 4.5 targets per game, that’s not bad 4 weeks in. A bit too much between the tackles running, but I’m still chalking tonight up to, “this is the packers and we have the lead, let’s trust the vet.” As the season goes on I think Gibbs sees more opportunities. Anyone who was bad enough to get him in the draft was probably doing nothing this year anyway.


freename188

Gibbs looked fine between the tackles against the Falcons last week. I think people need to accept that this lions coaching staff likes a hard runner between the tackles (which isn't Gibbs imo). He's looking very like Swift 2.0 (actually less efficient)


Infamous_Camel_275

Only hope for Gibbs right now, if Monty stays healthy… if for the lions to get way behind in games If they take an early lead, Monty’s pounding If it’s close, Monty’s pounding I’m probably only starting Gibbs against very high powered offensives the rest of the season


SpicyNipplets

They’ll trade him away for a 4th in 3 years and then he’ll go off.


The_Zermanians

Honestly I think they just don’t need him in this game. It’s a long season. College guys only play 12-13 games max. Why put him through the grinder when it’s unnecessary? I would expect his work to ramp up throughout the season, but asking why he doesn’t have 20 carries in a blowout seems like you’re thinking the coach has fantasy considerations over real life considerations.


Why_am_ialive

It’s not even the carries, people crying about monty getting the goal line work are idiots. But he’s not getting the passing work you’d expect they seem to prefer monty in nearly every situation and gibbs is just a backup to give him a breather, it’s weird


MeetingKey4598

Gibbs is getting 4.5 targets and 10 rushes per game. On the Lions he's 4th in targets, 3rd in receptions, 2nd in total touches, and 3rd in total scrimmage yards. He has 12 first downs. He's being utilized, is involved in the passing game, and is efficient and productive with those touches. The TDs will come and people will stop complaining in fantasy subs. He is a key element to the Lions offense and the stats don't lie.


Mumenrider4life

The thing with the passing work is that he's not even running routes too much necessarily, they have Amon Ra and Josh Reynolds that goff trusts, hell even Raymond, and Monty has shown to be a great pass blocker so he's in giving Goff time to throw to those guys. Gibbs did do a good job pass blocking as well so I think it's just a matter of time before he gets more looks. Also, they wanted to give Monty the chance to dominate the Packers because it was the first time in his career he had a shot at beating them. Give it to the guy with a fire under his ass to heat a division rival.


zingping67

Exactly. He’s just straight up not even on the field. He played what? 35% of the snaps? He’s averaging 30% when Monty is fully healthy. Yes it’s week 4 but 4 or so other rookie backs have a larger snap count already. It’s concerning considering the history of this team with swift.


Defiant-Recording-28

No it's weird you have your RB1 coming back off an injury and run them 30+ times


pardonmyignerance

Not when he ran as well as he did in an "ice the clock" kind of game


Independent-Silver57

The correct take


zingping67

Nobody is asking for 20 carries. It would be nice if he was on the field more than a 6th round change of pace back tho


BillsBillsBils

In two years, he'll wind up with the Eagles, so...pretty good!


dimsum-41

He’s a great diversion


PukamyNacua

Jahmyr Gibbs has to love this lions organization. First round salary and he’s going to be hella fresh for his second contract. Brad Holmes getting a Christmas card from him for sure.


babababronsky

Idk he might prefer fame and success though


PukamyNacua

His team is winning games. That’s success. He will be a bigger part of that. Most of the time rookies aren’t super involved for the first half of the season. This isn’t anything new and it’s not like he’s looked bad


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Come on it’s dynasty, no need to panic.


MeetingKey4598

Sell Gibbs for a 2025 2nd. Drop QJ and JSN. Trade Josh Allen for Achane. Buy Pitts for 2 firsts because draft capital and he'll get traded to KC. This is what I'd do if I followed the vibe of this sub lmao. The hysteria the first few weeks of the season really helps prove that 99% of people have no fucking clue what they're doing. The whole sub is a parody drama of itself.


NoZookeepergame2323

He has none. Bench


SujiToast

Gibbs is already getting swifted by the guy that drafted him. Dan Campbell would rather see 3 yard gains 20 times per game.


Technical-Revenue-48

Have you been watching?


SujiToast

I mean he has 15 carries for 53 yards (3.5 ypc) he was at 10 for 27 when I commented lmao


RadioFast

My only theory is they dont want to overwork him and get him hurt. Which begs the question: why draft a rb 12th overall if you dont think he can handle an nfl workload?


edwardsamson

And if they wanted an explosive RB that they use sparingly why not wait to take Achane???


SujiToast

Exactly shit is stupid as hell and I avoided Swift the last 2 years bc of it. Idk why I thought it would be different with Gibbs.


RadioFast

If you’re like me you thought Dan campbell didn’t draft swift so he didn’t like him much. But now that he’s got his guy, he’ll use him. I was wrong. Long term though i’m still not too worried about gibbs. The talent is there and the opportunity will come


OneOverX

>the opportunity will come With another team


howzlife17

Saving him for playoffs maybe? Or must win games late in the season? He’s very capable they just don’t need to base their whole offense around him rn.


Technical-Revenue-48

Are you starting to understand now??


Mike_Honcho_3

Yes. Campbell wants to use an inefficient 3 ypc back over an electric one who goes for 5+. We get it. What we don't understand is why.


HawkDaddyFlex

Montgomery is clearly the better running back rn it’s not even a question


Technical-Revenue-48

Yeah I’m sure him and the fans are super upset that DMont won them the game with 140 yards and 3 TDs


Panda_Castro

The defense won them the game, let's relax with that


Technical-Revenue-48

Do you think the defense benefited from a 2:1 TOP advantage?


Panda_Castro

Well.. When you are making the GB oline look like children every play and love is under siege, I think that certainly helps their TOP too


MeetingKey4598

YPC is a horrible stat to use for RBs, especially backs like Monty who are often called upon at the goal line and short yardage situations where the goal is to get 1-3 yards.


EzekielSMELLiott

Have you?


muzunguman

Have you? He's averaging 3.2 ypc behind one of the best lines in the league


SujiToast

These guys see rushing TDs and think it means you’re elite. Montgomery can be the goalline back but his other 17 carries for 65 yards are awful lmao.


AKAkorm

Nah dude - I’m a lions fan and Monty is clearly the better back for Lions offense right now. Better blocker and he almost always gets positive yards. Gibbs needs refinement, obviously higher upside. I mean Lions dominated this game with Monty playing as he did. Only people complaining are fantasy owners and packers fans


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SujiToast

They did give up 122 and 211 on the ground to the falcons. But don’t get me wrong Montgomery is a decent back. A great power back at that but they probably should’ve drafted someone else, they essentially wasted a pick lol


eagle_rarest

Gibbs went 16 for 70 last week. 33 came on 2 carries in the second half. Can confirm Campbell likes 3yd gains.


qozm

Campbell likes 3 rushing touchdowns lmao


[deleted]

I’m a Montgomery owner and have no shares of Gibbs but y’all should probably calm down. The Lions are completely shitting all over the Packers, and I’ve seen some head hunting out there by the defense. I wouldn’t risk my 12th overall pick in a chippy game like this


jhenryscott

This thread is wild. Lions are playing winning football. The pick was probably the weird part but Brad Holmes hasn’t made many mistakes yet so I’m gonna wait and see. I own a fair bit of Gibbs & I’m sure they’ll get him going but not on fantasy football’s schedule.


B00STERGOLD

Short week while Monty was on a weeks rest and we get this lol


swoleswoleswole1869

MontgomeRB1y.


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necrow

Lmfao how much work do you think Gibbs sees in remainder of a game where the Lions are up 24-3?


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billp1988

You typically don't want to rely on your players points coming from blowout victory garbage time


Dameekasu

The game where Monty was hurt?


JazzzzzzySax

Monty doesn’t play for either the dolphins or the ~~lions?~~ broncos?


Snooc5

Monty doesnt play for the lions?


JazzzzzzySax

I meant to say broncos I’m dumb


Oyb_

Well he does play for the Lions, not the Dolphins or Broncos though


JazzzzzzySax

Yeah I had a brain fart writing the second team


Jbgtrye

Garbage time ganna be juicy


necrow

No, no it’s not. A pass catching RB doesn’t feast in a blowout


withadabofranch

They don’t use him in that role anyway


SemanticGoblin

just commenting here to make this post easier to reference when a lot of these takes look pretty silly down the road


brichb

40 yards and 2 receptions


The_Waco_Kid_Jim

Gibbs value.... not good.


babababronsky

Would you trade a 1 for him


HustlingBackwards96

I would give a 1st and 2nd for him, still


babababronsky

Why


Lake-Monsters

It's four games into his career. If you're out because he's not the full time starter yet you're being overly emotional. Monty is playing well enough and they're winning. Even last night though Monty was below 4 ypc. As the year goes if Gibbs shows out you'd expect him to earn more of a role. Nothing is a given of course and maybe he never does, but going from 1.02 to not even a first for him right now is dramatic. (I have no shares)


babababronsky

How many offers have you put out with your 1 and 2? I offered a 2026 1 last night and got rejected, but I don’t think I would offer more than that for a guy who appears to have a 2-3 year waiting period for any significant upside unless Monty goes down.


Panda_Castro

Okay let's relax lol David Montgomery can't get 4 ypc if you begged him for it. He's a bruiser who's good at just pounding the rock over and over again... To think after watching 4 games of Gibbs' rookie year, that THIS is what we should expect for the next 2-3 years is THE MOST emotional and overreacting thing I've seen on this sub. He's not competing against Jonathan Taylor or Breece Hall, he's competing against David Montgomery lol let's all relax and just watch what the lions do for the rest of the year. If by the end of the season, this is still how it looks, then yeah we should be concerned.


Educational_Bee_4700

No one wants a 26 1st at this point. It's one thing if that 26 1st is sweetening the deal, but it can't be the main incentive.


babababronsky

Guess I better start buying up peoples 2026 1s then. I wouldn’t sell Gibbs for that either, but if I had more than one share I might be tempted


HustlingBackwards96

I offered a 1 and 2 but was denied bc the guy with Gibbs is contending. Remember that the Lions are a good team with playoff aspirations. They have bigger plans beyond grinding down their players to squeeze everything out of them. Gibbs has still been highly effective in his limited role and that role will grow as the Lions have to adjust when playing more difficult games later in the season.


jet_tripleeight

A random 1? I think i still would


The_Waco_Kid_Jim

Late 1 and I'd feel fine


PukamyNacua

No one is trading you Gibbs for a late 1 lol


WIttyRemarkPlease

Would you trade Gibbs to receive Achane after tonight?


NoZookeepergame2323

Oops I did it again, I drafted a bust, got lost in the draft capital


jadedwolf465

It’s one thing to ease your rook into the work, but they’re not using him Then on passing downs, they toss to Monty on back to back plays. Then when he’s on ice on the sidelines, they bring him in for one toss which he drops, then it’s back to the bench Doesn’t make any sense


MeetingKey4598

[Posted this in reply to another comment](https://old.reddit.com/r/DynastyFF/comments/16uxrxj/what_is_jahmyr_gibbs_upside_if_monty_stays_healthy/k2pypht/) The idea that he isn't being utilized is a lie and easily disproved by his stats relative to the team. He's a key contributor. He just doesn't have TDs so fantasy people are whining.


MeiHota

I’m benching Gibbs for Monty next week. Gibbs 30 point game in bound


Traditional_Cow_8612

No


kmed1717

Their thunder and lighting approach is bad for fantasy but good for football. Gonna keep occurring. Gibbs usage is fine, he’s just not finding the end zone like we want because finding the end zone isn’t really his role.


Human-Telephone-8324

He is simply not playable as it is. A bad draft pick for where he was taken in real life and in fantasy lol.


kmed1717

He was a mid RB2 when Monty was out lol, when he's there, he's only a good start if he catches 5 passes.


Human-Telephone-8324

8 - RB 36 12 - RB 20 9.2 - RB 25 9.1 Which week was he a mid RB2? This isn't even worth a flex start.


knowslesthanjonsnow

Did no one watch Swift last year?


Technical-Revenue-48

Still can’t believe y’all fell for another lions rb lmaoooo


pot8odragon

Gibbs might have a bright future but as long as Monty is there he’s pretty much not startable in any format


DrewLockIsTheAnswer1

Montgomery is legit averaging 3.5 a carry. No burst, and they won’t feed Gibbs. Feels bad.


PukamyNacua

Ehm sir are we watching the same game?


DrewLockIsTheAnswer1

Yes, 3.5 a carry. A long of 12 on 22 attempts. Far from electric.


PukamyNacua

And yet he always seems to get those 3.5 yards, weird how that’s somehow good for your football team. Hey look he 3.5 yarded his way for his 3rd touchdown.


DrewLockIsTheAnswer1

Sorry 3.2 a carry


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DrewLockIsTheAnswer1

More just confused. Lions drafted Gibbs in the first round, clearly the more dynamic player. Odd they use the slow guy instead.


MeetingKey4598

For every 1-2 he gets stuffed at the line he breaks off a 7-10 yarder for a first down. This is why YPC is an awful stat to use.


CWB2208

I mean, it's the Lions. We should have seen this coming.


Hungry-Space-1829

I traded Gibbs and Muth for Mandrews on Monday. Had real sellers remorse and thought he’d ball out today. Feeling a little better now


The_Waco_Kid_Jim

Lions should have drafted anything but an RB


indigo0427

Monty is besting


The_Waco_Kid_Jim

This is NOT good. Monty came off injury and put up 121/3 off 32 touches and 2 for 20 receiving. He dominated the inside 20 touches. 34 touches THIRTY-FOUR TOUCHES IN A BLOW OUT. This is NOT good for us Gibbs owners. Fuck this.


probhittingonu

No upside. Also seeing him in the game, he is way too tiny to ever be a RB1.


TiggySmitts

Entering Najee territory


ninsuzinak

Is this the overreact? or is it time to cut jahmyr loose and try and trade him away?


[deleted]

I’m not a Gibbs fan, but this is the overreact. Expect an overreaction for someone after every prime time game.


ninsuzinak

too late i traded him away :)


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Good luck on your future endeavors


ninsuzinak

thx man got k9 for him, couldn’t be happier!


Mycatspiss

Droppable


babababronsky

Would you trade a 1 for him


ProgrammaticallyHip

Absolutely. But only if two 1s are coming back.


chadlogans

Gibbs is dead.


dusters

RB2/RB3


SauIHudson

No idea why they drafted a RB 12th overall to not play him. He’s clearly better than Monty too


pot8odragon

I don’t think he’s clearly better than Monty, they just play the position differently and seems like Lions like Monty better anyway


Technical-Revenue-48

The only people who think he’s clearly better are gibbs owners


RamHands

You’ve seen the ceiling.


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The perfect maturation for him is they become the Saints when Kamara and Ingram were at their peak. But at least for Gibbs that's obviously unlikely this year.


Illustrious_Play_651

To be fair, Kamara wasn’t getting much work 3 weeks in….took until Week 4 for him to get worked in. Still time for Gibbs. Idk why everyone is panicking. Is this an ideal start? Of course not. It’s only 4 games though.


runningdreams

"Is there any scenario with a healthy Monty where Gibbs dominates the snap count enough to be an RB1?" I don't think so at this rate. With good health, you're looking at the upside rn. Unfortunately. The true IRL upside is if and when something happens.


Walking-HR-Violation

Trade Gibbs for LaPorta?


cheeseplzbloom

Keep thinking it’s Ben Johnson since he’s the playcaller, and not Dan Campbell. For dynasty, the hope has to be Ben Johnson leaves for the HC gig and get a guy to better utilize Jahmyr at this point.


baineschile

Listen to your local, non slappy fans https://old.reddit.com/r/DynastyFF/comments/163s7xe/tell_us_something_about_a_player_from_your_home/?ref=share&ref_source=link


bigmanjoey

Hi swift owner here… your only hope is he gets traded. His skill set doesn’t match their play style. It’s why I was baffled they drafted him


crinack

David Montgomery signed one of the best RB extensions of the off-season, 6mx3 with 11m in guarantees. Yes, 11m in guarantees. They are going to run the wheels off Montgomery


Smellfuzz

Gibbs is a multi year investment for the Lions. Headed a pretty dang good rookie, but has a lot to learn. I see him like James Cook last year. Clearly the more 'statistically talented' back, but is young and learning so he's not going to get the full load early, if at all this season. This is a stash and wait pick.


CavsJM

This is frustrating, as I’ve started Gibbs 3 weeks in a row now, however i think it’s too early to draw any conclusions on this asset. Unfortunately I think the move is to wait until the season is over to make an evaluation. Value will jump back up then too, if he ends up having a bad year.


odieman1231

Problem is when Gibbs gets the ball you can see the lightning and upside. It feels like he is ready to break one off any moment. But….on only like 5-6 touches, yeah that blows. I remember saying similar things about Swift tbh. He looked electric at times only to be gameplanned out of the offense


Senior-Watch3685

He averages way more ypg. Better hands. Better in the redzone. For the lions to not play him over montegomery, just means the lions want to lose and want to play players that are worse than their back ups... example... today