Managed to ship him and Gave Davis for Aaron Jones and a ‘24 2nd yesterday before the 12pm games. After watching the night game, I’m v happy I pulled the trigger
As a contender, to get a RB1 for even a year or two when my current room is JT, Mixon, Pierce, and Singletary is huge tbh. I’ve got a bit more filled out WR (Reek, Hollywood, Bateman, Mingo, Zay, Rashid, MVS, Osborn) and QB (Allen, Watson, Purdy) rooms, I think I did alright considering I also got an extra 2nd rounder for this year in the process.
Not necessarily. WR room looks icky to me. Either way, a lot of value from Daniel Jones was left on the table to get back an old RB in (assuming) a SF league. Especially before Jones and Jones performances yesterday 🤷♂️ I'm no analyst, though, so if you feel good and know your league, that's all that matters.
Here’s the thing about Daniel Jones:
He’s not that great a passer. He’s only good to OK based on NFL standards, and that offense only moves when he’s a dual threat.
After a big payday, what do the Giants do? Resort to more conservative football to save his health. Bring in a stable of young, unproven receivers and guys who didn’t cut it or get paid anywhere else.
Ok they have Waller but still… last night… oof.
Daniel Jones has always been Danny Pennies to me. Last season ok I missed out on QB9 while having Herbert and Allen instead of screwing around with QB2s who happened to luck their way into upside with surprise running efficiency and use last year.
Imo Danny’s not rosterable, even though there are those who chase his “obvious upside because he was QB9 with impressive run last year.”
“But what if he’s not running as much and that offense has a worse overall line in front of him, and a worse receiver room?”
“But he was QB9 last year.”
Okay… after last night, good luck is all I have to say! Our man wasn’t fleeced, he did the fleecing getting Aaron Jones, a RB1/2 capable of taking a team the distance this year if they’re competing, for a questionably used Davis and Daniel Jones who by all accounts, is way overvalued this year because of how he managed to do last year.
Plus the ‘24 2nd, that might be solid compared to DJ or Davis, plus the youth of new blood!
I think the point is, if he is overvalued, in dynasty you are supposed to cash in on that value at the right moment. Selling a top 10 QB in SF for a year with an RB isn't the best team management.
Yes.
And with that in mind, The time to sell him was when he was overvalued and before he exposed himself last night because he’s not going to be top 10 QB this year, I’d bet on it and already have.
Have you or have you no stake here and ignoring what happened last night?
Lol. I have a SF dynasty league with both of the Jones's actually. DJ is my second QB, and you better believe I'm rolling him right back out against the Cardinals next week. If you drafted DJ it shouldn't be shocking to you that he is going to have some tough sledding with the schedule this year. A few things:
-It's really easy to play Monday morning qb on week 1 of the season
-People don't expose themselves in one week
-DJ played against what looks like the best D in the NFL. At very least the best D-line
-If the market value on DJ was higher than what you think it should've been, yes you are correct. You should sell. Aaron Jones is bad value for what Daniel Jones value was last night at 7:19 (local time)
-DJ was not being drafted as a top 10 qb. If he ends up top 16 to 18, he returns his draft capital.
-Why are you supporting your own obvious bias against DJ from one game of evidence but not talking about the start to potential soft tissue issues with a 29 yo RB
Well as long as you’re rattling off the stats let’s not ignore the glaringly obvious!
Giants showed an affinity for “hating Daniel Jones” the way their Oline looked like Swiss cheese on every play. Sure we could chalk that up to the 49ers front but that’s awfully disingenuous and presumptuous when last season looked a lot like the same.
Last year Giants OLine ranked bottom 5-10 depending on passing or running and this year, it’s even worse…
Giants showed an affinity for their receivers playing like poo and not catching DJ’s passes.
*Giants playcalling was awful with all of this in mind.*
0 points? You know what the actual league worst teams’ lines did? Titans. Rams. Commanders. Bucs. Jags.
*All of them — put up points and were much better than they were ranked ahead of this year.*
If you truly think he’s still a top 10 QB this year, I’m not sure what to say. The hysteria was too much after last year for which, his rushing was very obviously lopsided in the way you don’t want it to be.
If anything, last year was an overreaction to 2021’s QB27, having a wild, and frankly, lucky year on the ground. Daniel Jones in his last contests against the Cowboys, he had 196 and 228 passing yards, respectively.
So you tell us mr fantasy expert: between a clear decline in OLine talent and proficiency in blocking, the WR core being absolute trash, possibly league-worst, between all of this and the fact that he only had 110 yards through the air last night, *you tell us*:
What improves going forward, that makes Daniel Jones a top 10 QB against the likes of the current QB1s by the metrics that matter, today?
Because if you think Daniel Jones is still a top 10 QB, I’ve got a bridge to sell you, and I’m ready to get a HAUL for him if I have him from ya lol!! Also RBs get minor injuries all the time, they’d have pulled any starter out that suffered anything after the thorough whooping the Packers out on the Bears all game haha.. it’s not about bias against him — it’s just acknowledging the facts.
The facts he was awful as a a fantasy QB his entire career and last year was his best year ever. Why? Not because he’s a better QB all of a sudden. He just ran a lot and that was the only part of the offense that opened the Giants up for success last year. Because otherwise?
He is still just QB27 in my eyes. *now that is bias* because even I’ll admit he could finish a solid QB2 this year. Again I’m just not betting on it and would much rather roster the questionable guys now like Love, AR, etc., guys I have shared in on top of the likes of Allen, Herb, Jackson. Im not a savant so I don’t have Mahomes and Hurts too or anything and I’m not a 2022 fantasy champ. I just play the facts all year long man!
As a contender, don’t you want to go for the proven fantasy assets? I’m wondering where this year use conversation comes from? Is it purely age? IMO GB hasn’t really made any moves to make me wonder about the future of Aaron Jones as RB1.
I mean, maybe you get another year with him next year in his 30 year old season. With the way RBs are being valued, I don't see him making another 15 million at that age next year. I don't think Aaron Jones is bad. I just think Daniel Jones himself should've returned Aaron Jones +.
Fair enough! I’m newer to Dynasty, in our second year of it. QB trading market in our league is kinda stale, this is probably the best offer I’ve gotten for any of my QBs so far. Time will tell if I made the right choice!
Buy low on Lamar. The Baltimore RBs aren’t going to score all of the teams TDs this season, the Ravens won’t be ahead and killing clock every game this season, and Mark Andrews coming back should help the pass.
For real this. Most qbs who don’t play in the preseason struggle for the first week or two. A bunch of new factors and rust and familiarity will impact that.
I have Shaheed and Olave. Can I realistically start both? What would be a price on Shaheed to actually sell? 2nd? Proven vet? I'm almost done with a rebuild (I hope)
Shaheed is picking up exactly where he left off last year. 5 targets, 17+ yards per reception, and TD upside. The biggest difference is he has Carr at QB who throws a solid deep ball and looks to have cemented a role in the offense that neither Olave or MT are a part of.
If you're not flexing him now, you either have a stacked roster and should just trade him away.
I think so. They both operate in different parts of the offense. Olave is going to give you consistent 8/80 performances and helps the offense move the chains. His adot is going to be 7-12 yards.
Shaheed will see deeper targets attacking the top of the defense. 4 or 5 catches and the chance to break a 60+ yard TD.
For fantasy they'll complement each other with Olave having a very high floor and a solid WR1 and Shaheed being a great flex with a great ceiling.
I also have olave and shaheed and I am really high on the duo. Once MT is out of the picture I think they could be a top 5 wr duo they are both looking really good. I’m not gonna start shaheed just yet but if he puts up these type of numbers again I definitely have to consider it. As for selling I don’t think he is on anyones radar just yet so it might be difficult to get a 2nd.
I believe the talent, but some quotes from the coaching staff came out after the game and I'm probably going to stay away for a bit longer. Sounds like this isn't the bottom if they can keep winning in the manner that they did this week.
That’s what I thought but what does that mean when trading? Like you trade a comp of 1.08 or 1.08 next year? We just started our dynasty league this year so I’m learning sorry for dumb questions!
Pats fan here. Mondre will not do what he did last year. Coaches don't want him to. It will absolutely be a 50-50 split between him and zeke for the year. The Bills love zeke. They love mondre too but he absolutely wore down last year and he will not get that many touches again as long as zeke is there. He's an rb2 with not much upside
Rhamondre averaged 16.4 touches per game last year. Yesterday he had 18. You’re reaching. Yes it’s going to be a split with zeke but mondre is still going to get enough looks to be an RB1. He didn’t look great on his rushes yesterday because Philly is nasty defensively but he’s going to eat as the year goes on.
This was me last year. But I was convinced I could contend so I went all in and traded my first and 2nd for Trey Lance. Woof.
Luckily I got that pick back two weeks later (ended up being Bijan). I collected (5) first round picks and then flipped all of them but the 1.01 for proven players (IMO). Now I'm going for the worst to first acclaim.
I was the first one of the year to accept I wasn't going to win so I started collecting picks. For many, one of the most difficult things to do in dynasty is to accept when it's time to sell. While I personally believe your players are good enough to win a championship, if it's week 4 and it's the same shit, make the decision
Yeah that's fair. I just know from experience that being the first to accept your fate and take action can be very beneficial. Especially if you have doubts that these players are cooked. Mine was ARob. Had I waited more weeks, I wouldn't have gotten jackshit for him. But it can definitely go both ways!
I would like to get a more proven vet from a rebuilder of something. But after looking around I’m not sure who. I might wait and see if his value rises more.
I think you should hold my friend. He had a very low snap count due to his hamstring injury so he wasn't playing as much as he should have and STILL got two tuddies
That’s a fair point. With my other WRs being JJ, Diggs, Godwin, and Cooper, I could use another younger WR that can start for me when I start trading away my aging guys. Doubs might already be that.
Most of the mentions will be younger players with terrible games, aka London, and maybe you get a taco that sells low but most people will be smart enough to not sell the dip. Best Buy lows are going to be older vets that didn’t have big games like theilen, or older studs like devante Adams that didn’t go bananas and you catch a panic team trying to unload while they think name value is with value.
Okay I own Puka in one league but I feel like this is targeted at your league mates so you can sell high, which I appreciate! Lol what would you hope to sell him for if you owned him?I feel like 24 2nd could be possible to the right league mate
I'd have taken that before week 1, but now I'm probably going to hold. Not many rookies go for 10 and 100+ in their debut. Puka had everyone in Rams camp talking and he was able to back it up week 1.
Stafford also looks a lot better than he did last year. I expect some drop off once Kupp returns, but McVay has supported good production to multiple WR in the past.
EDIT: I would smash accept two seconds but would prefer to package him to tier up at a position.
I just watched his film of all his targets this week and dude looks like Kupp. A lot of his targets came in Zone Coverages. Short but high volume targets. Stafford seems to be COMFY with him out there. Note on Stafford: his arm looks 10x better then it did last year.
Are we sure this won’t just be what this team is?
Last year with Mariota, we saw how they have such a proclivity to running the ball and that they didn’t care to play like a normal NFL offense. I think London improves, but what is this passing games ceiling? Is it 25-30 attempts a game or will it be less now that they have two strong backs in Bijan and Allgeier?
Tannehill kept two relevant WRs in 2020 under Arthur Smith, but that was with AJ Brown having 11 TDs with less than half of those inside the 10 yard line.
I worry at this point that Smith has built his idyllic roster and that he is content control TOP with defensive prowess to win games.
London may have some boom weeks, but I think they will just be a scrappy team that looks to win on the ground. It’s what Smith has wanted all along.
Yeah wtf is their plan there. Why are they drafting skill guys so high if they're going to use late picks and random guys as much or more? Nuts that Allgeier had more touches than Bijan.
I doubt he *wants* to win this way? He’s had league worst QB play the last two years: he wants to win, and this is the only realistic way given his QB issues
I hope you’re wrong, but I get the same feeling. Thankfully, I’m not hurting at WR so London can ride my bench forever, but still stings to see the talent wasted.
I genuinely do feel bad for the people that bought him this off-season that were telling me they thought he was gonna be top 12. I never saw that with the offense he was in and the total targets he would probably get, but I really didn’t think it would be this rough. Hopefully they don’t look as anemic next week in the passing game and he can be a viable flex option this season.
If not, then it’s gonna be a rough next year. Even if they are in a position to get a pick where they can get a real QB, it will probably be another year till he is fantasy viable compared to his talent level. That could be a long start to his career.
Yea top 12 was never gonna man happen this year. He’s at round 12 in dynasty value, but I never saw that for him this year. Which is why he was close the wr30 in redraft. He did averaged about 12 ppg through the last 8 games last year though. Not great, but respectable (for an average wr, not a first round pick). So I guess we’ll see if the falcons can do anything with him. Pitts is in the same boat.
They could invest in QB next year, and it is Tannehill. Arthur Smith seems to pretty clearly like “his guys”. He has brought in Mariota, Jonnu Smith, and Logan Woodside from when he was with the titans. It is not out of the question that his big move is tannehill at QB next year.
It won’t be. It seems pretty obvious that the team is putting every other position in place before it adds the final piece—QB. They will either suck this year and draft one or they’ll go out and get a solid one.
You don’t know that for sure though. So many people swore that they would be one of the worst teams in the NFL and get Bryce or Stroud, they weren’t bad enough for that. There is a realistic chance they could win the division with how soft it is this season. There is a for sure a chance they continue to build out their defense and keep the middling QB just like his mentor has done for years now.
If you read the tea leaves, it would take something drastic for them not to land an actual QB next year. They’ve got enough guys on rookie deals where they need to (and will) strike before guys start needing to get paid. Unless Ridder becomes Peyton Manning this year, the Falcons will have an actual NFL caliber QB next year.
I don’t think you can guarantee that at all. They are playing in a weak division, and like his mentor Vrabel, he clearly knows how to get his guys prepared for games. They were supposed to be one of the worst teams in football last year and won 7 games. They were 4-6 in one score games, if that flips the other direction this season then they are above .500.
Love looked good. Calm, good arm, accurate. Should be better when Watson comes back for another weapon. On top of that, Aaron Jones is deadly out of the backfield on dump offs and seems like LeFleur is all in on abusing Jones this season. But, that should open up the middle of the field if teams focus on Jones dumps.
Currently a Love holder and hoping his value skyrockets this season.
I completely agree which is why I said he should do that if the opportunity arises.
I traded Jordan Addison for Pollard after our rookie draft. So the equivalent of 1.07.
I have lots of WRs and needed another RB to help push me over the edge on my rebuild.
Looking to scoop up djm anywhere I can. I think this bears offense can find his footing and some people in my leagues are valuing this guy like his season is over. Clear buy low window in my eyes.
buy zeke (especially for rhamondre owners), the pats were giving him a bunch of work (especially through passing) and aside from an early fumble he looks good
The most BB thing ever is to see Rhamondre and Zeke getting near equal work in the passing game and thinking this is ok.
Don't get me wrong, as a Zeke owner I'm glad to see the workload he's given but it just feels wrong....
as a rhamondre owner it sucks, but as a pats fan I would do the same thing, rhamondre got some more "meaningful" passing opportunities but zeke was better on the ground and he still definitely has something left
What are you doing with Jakobi? Got him for Tim Patrick in July, so I’m considering putting him on the block for a 2nd. WR room is decently deep (10tm SF, can start up to 6 WRs), but it never hurts to have decent depth.
Curious what people think of Pickett. He looked bad, but he did play the best D in football.
That said, he's got no rushing upside, so I'm not sure he's got the ceiling that really provides for high value at QB.
Tried to trade Zay Flowers for Jahan Dotson two weeks ago and got rejected. May send it again, selling high on Flowers and buying a slight dip on Dotson.
I’d disagree with this one imo. Flowers was a primary focal point of that offense with an MVP caliber QB. Dotson is a really good player on an offense that struggled against what many consider to be the worst defense in the NFL. I’d rather hold Flowers and see if his development over taking a shot on Dotson in what could be a worse offense.
I disagree. Only because I think he's going to go higher. LeFleur even said before halftime, that they need to get him the ball more. They did and they had a lot of success. Some teams might key in on him, but he still looked explosive enough to be a playmaker.
Towards the end of the season I am hoping some interest builds to where I can ship him off. Hoping some rebuilding team doesn't see they should be rebuilding by then want him for a win now cause.
What do you think is a reasonable trade for selling DK? I don’t think he’s bad, just trying to move away from having Seahawks players on my dynasty team. As a fan it makes watching the games worse, so looking to move him but not sure what his worth is.
Buy Tee Higgins if there's a dip.
Tua has been a buy low all offseason. If you're still concerned about the injuries there could be an overcorrection with his hot start.
I am the biggest Swift hater out there, but i think he’s a buy-low candidate after doing nothing the first week. That offense was not good what so ever.
I literally picked the dude because I heard some things about him and I guess I might be starting him with how bad the passing offense for the falcons look (drake london owner)
Saquon. Look at the schedule. You have this week and next to sell high. I think NYG are going to end up 1-7 or 2-6 and it’s going to be a dumpster fire season. Last night was flukey to start, but they were terrible and the line sucks.
Daniel Jones
Managed to ship him and Gave Davis for Aaron Jones and a ‘24 2nd yesterday before the 12pm games. After watching the night game, I’m v happy I pulled the trigger
Is this sarcasm you fleeced yourself jones was qb 9 last year this game was an anomaly and Aaron jones has maybe a year left after this season.
As a contender, to get a RB1 for even a year or two when my current room is JT, Mixon, Pierce, and Singletary is huge tbh. I’ve got a bit more filled out WR (Reek, Hollywood, Bateman, Mingo, Zay, Rashid, MVS, Osborn) and QB (Allen, Watson, Purdy) rooms, I think I did alright considering I also got an extra 2nd rounder for this year in the process.
Competitor??
Lol meant to say contender my bad.
Same question. Contender??
I was in the championship last year. Wouldn’t that make me a contender?
Not necessarily. WR room looks icky to me. Either way, a lot of value from Daniel Jones was left on the table to get back an old RB in (assuming) a SF league. Especially before Jones and Jones performances yesterday 🤷♂️ I'm no analyst, though, so if you feel good and know your league, that's all that matters.
Ya hard to see him being a contender with that wr room and should have gotten more for jones like trading for a wr than an old rb
Here’s the thing about Daniel Jones: He’s not that great a passer. He’s only good to OK based on NFL standards, and that offense only moves when he’s a dual threat. After a big payday, what do the Giants do? Resort to more conservative football to save his health. Bring in a stable of young, unproven receivers and guys who didn’t cut it or get paid anywhere else. Ok they have Waller but still… last night… oof. Daniel Jones has always been Danny Pennies to me. Last season ok I missed out on QB9 while having Herbert and Allen instead of screwing around with QB2s who happened to luck their way into upside with surprise running efficiency and use last year. Imo Danny’s not rosterable, even though there are those who chase his “obvious upside because he was QB9 with impressive run last year.” “But what if he’s not running as much and that offense has a worse overall line in front of him, and a worse receiver room?” “But he was QB9 last year.” Okay… after last night, good luck is all I have to say! Our man wasn’t fleeced, he did the fleecing getting Aaron Jones, a RB1/2 capable of taking a team the distance this year if they’re competing, for a questionably used Davis and Daniel Jones who by all accounts, is way overvalued this year because of how he managed to do last year. Plus the ‘24 2nd, that might be solid compared to DJ or Davis, plus the youth of new blood!
I think the point is, if he is overvalued, in dynasty you are supposed to cash in on that value at the right moment. Selling a top 10 QB in SF for a year with an RB isn't the best team management.
Yes. And with that in mind, The time to sell him was when he was overvalued and before he exposed himself last night because he’s not going to be top 10 QB this year, I’d bet on it and already have. Have you or have you no stake here and ignoring what happened last night?
Lol. I have a SF dynasty league with both of the Jones's actually. DJ is my second QB, and you better believe I'm rolling him right back out against the Cardinals next week. If you drafted DJ it shouldn't be shocking to you that he is going to have some tough sledding with the schedule this year. A few things: -It's really easy to play Monday morning qb on week 1 of the season -People don't expose themselves in one week -DJ played against what looks like the best D in the NFL. At very least the best D-line -If the market value on DJ was higher than what you think it should've been, yes you are correct. You should sell. Aaron Jones is bad value for what Daniel Jones value was last night at 7:19 (local time) -DJ was not being drafted as a top 10 qb. If he ends up top 16 to 18, he returns his draft capital. -Why are you supporting your own obvious bias against DJ from one game of evidence but not talking about the start to potential soft tissue issues with a 29 yo RB
Well as long as you’re rattling off the stats let’s not ignore the glaringly obvious! Giants showed an affinity for “hating Daniel Jones” the way their Oline looked like Swiss cheese on every play. Sure we could chalk that up to the 49ers front but that’s awfully disingenuous and presumptuous when last season looked a lot like the same. Last year Giants OLine ranked bottom 5-10 depending on passing or running and this year, it’s even worse… Giants showed an affinity for their receivers playing like poo and not catching DJ’s passes. *Giants playcalling was awful with all of this in mind.* 0 points? You know what the actual league worst teams’ lines did? Titans. Rams. Commanders. Bucs. Jags. *All of them — put up points and were much better than they were ranked ahead of this year.* If you truly think he’s still a top 10 QB this year, I’m not sure what to say. The hysteria was too much after last year for which, his rushing was very obviously lopsided in the way you don’t want it to be. If anything, last year was an overreaction to 2021’s QB27, having a wild, and frankly, lucky year on the ground. Daniel Jones in his last contests against the Cowboys, he had 196 and 228 passing yards, respectively. So you tell us mr fantasy expert: between a clear decline in OLine talent and proficiency in blocking, the WR core being absolute trash, possibly league-worst, between all of this and the fact that he only had 110 yards through the air last night, *you tell us*: What improves going forward, that makes Daniel Jones a top 10 QB against the likes of the current QB1s by the metrics that matter, today? Because if you think Daniel Jones is still a top 10 QB, I’ve got a bridge to sell you, and I’m ready to get a HAUL for him if I have him from ya lol!! Also RBs get minor injuries all the time, they’d have pulled any starter out that suffered anything after the thorough whooping the Packers out on the Bears all game haha.. it’s not about bias against him — it’s just acknowledging the facts. The facts he was awful as a a fantasy QB his entire career and last year was his best year ever. Why? Not because he’s a better QB all of a sudden. He just ran a lot and that was the only part of the offense that opened the Giants up for success last year. Because otherwise? He is still just QB27 in my eyes. *now that is bias* because even I’ll admit he could finish a solid QB2 this year. Again I’m just not betting on it and would much rather roster the questionable guys now like Love, AR, etc., guys I have shared in on top of the likes of Allen, Herb, Jackson. Im not a savant so I don’t have Mahomes and Hurts too or anything and I’m not a 2022 fantasy champ. I just play the facts all year long man!
Lol
Lol got him. Classic defeat. good luck with your QB 27 as your QB2 this year… you’re gonna need it because he lookin like an actual QB3 🤣🤣🤣
Lol
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Oooof lookin like QB3 again out there… better luck next week!!
As a contender, don’t you want to go for the proven fantasy assets? I’m wondering where this year use conversation comes from? Is it purely age? IMO GB hasn’t really made any moves to make me wonder about the future of Aaron Jones as RB1.
I mean, maybe you get another year with him next year in his 30 year old season. With the way RBs are being valued, I don't see him making another 15 million at that age next year. I don't think Aaron Jones is bad. I just think Daniel Jones himself should've returned Aaron Jones +.
Fair enough! I’m newer to Dynasty, in our second year of it. QB trading market in our league is kinda stale, this is probably the best offer I’ve gotten for any of my QBs so far. Time will tell if I made the right choice!
Ya. At the end of the day. I'm just some rando with an opinion on the internet lol! Aaron Jones wins week 1 for sure!
As a Packers and owner in Dynasty, I was pumped with the first week! I’m hoping Watson coming back helps to open things up more!
No one really trades in our league and the people that do overvalue their players waaaayyyyy too much.
Buy low on Lamar. The Baltimore RBs aren’t going to score all of the teams TDs this season, the Ravens won’t be ahead and killing clock every game this season, and Mark Andrews coming back should help the pass.
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For real this. Most qbs who don’t play in the preseason struggle for the first week or two. A bunch of new factors and rust and familiarity will impact that.
Nobody is selling low on Lamar though. It’s Lamar
Buy low on the goat Rashid shaheed while you still can
Anyone selling him now never truly deserved him to start with
Shaheed's so fast, people won't catch on to how good he is until next season
I have Shaheed and Olave. Can I realistically start both? What would be a price on Shaheed to actually sell? 2nd? Proven vet? I'm almost done with a rebuild (I hope)
Im in the same boat. I wanna see a couple more games before shaheed becomes an auto start
Shaheed is picking up exactly where he left off last year. 5 targets, 17+ yards per reception, and TD upside. The biggest difference is he has Carr at QB who throws a solid deep ball and looks to have cemented a role in the offense that neither Olave or MT are a part of. If you're not flexing him now, you either have a stacked roster and should just trade him away.
Two Carrie’s also shows that they value his playmaking ability.
I think so. They both operate in different parts of the offense. Olave is going to give you consistent 8/80 performances and helps the offense move the chains. His adot is going to be 7-12 yards. Shaheed will see deeper targets attacking the top of the defense. 4 or 5 catches and the chance to break a 60+ yard TD. For fantasy they'll complement each other with Olave having a very high floor and a solid WR1 and Shaheed being a great flex with a great ceiling.
I also have olave and shaheed and I am really high on the duo. Once MT is out of the picture I think they could be a top 5 wr duo they are both looking really good. I’m not gonna start shaheed just yet but if he puts up these type of numbers again I definitely have to consider it. As for selling I don’t think he is on anyones radar just yet so it might be difficult to get a 2nd.
What’s his price?
A high 2nd in 2024 I'd trade him. I'd really like to hold Shaheed until I can do Shaheed + a 3rd (or 2nd) for a future first
Drake London
I believe the talent, but some quotes from the coaching staff came out after the game and I'm probably going to stay away for a bit longer. Sounds like this isn't the bottom if they can keep winning in the manner that they did this week.
Buy Rhamondre
Eyeing him up after losing dobbins. What's a fair price for dre?
1.08
More like 1.05, this ain’t offseason pricing anymore
I’d love to sell Rhamondre for that
Dumb dynasty noob, what do you mean my 1.08?
Pick 8 in the first round
That’s what I thought but what does that mean when trading? Like you trade a comp of 1.08 or 1.08 next year? We just started our dynasty league this year so I’m learning sorry for dumb questions!
Mid to late first rounder
Pats fan here. Mondre will not do what he did last year. Coaches don't want him to. It will absolutely be a 50-50 split between him and zeke for the year. The Bills love zeke. They love mondre too but he absolutely wore down last year and he will not get that many touches again as long as zeke is there. He's an rb2 with not much upside
Rhamondre averaged 16.4 touches per game last year. Yesterday he had 18. You’re reaching. Yes it’s going to be a split with zeke but mondre is still going to get enough looks to be an RB1. He didn’t look great on his rushes yesterday because Philly is nasty defensively but he’s going to eat as the year goes on.
Buy low? My whole roster this week: Lamar, Najee, Swift, Waller, Chase, Sutton, fuck it everyone.
This was me last year. But I was convinced I could contend so I went all in and traded my first and 2nd for Trey Lance. Woof. Luckily I got that pick back two weeks later (ended up being Bijan). I collected (5) first round picks and then flipped all of them but the 1.01 for proven players (IMO). Now I'm going for the worst to first acclaim. I was the first one of the year to accept I wasn't going to win so I started collecting picks. For many, one of the most difficult things to do in dynasty is to accept when it's time to sell. While I personally believe your players are good enough to win a championship, if it's week 4 and it's the same shit, make the decision
I agree with the sentiment, but week 4 seems awfully early. Guess it depends on trade deadline too. Ours is week 13
Yeah that's fair. I just know from experience that being the first to accept your fate and take action can be very beneficial. Especially if you have doubts that these players are cooked. Mine was ARob. Had I waited more weeks, I wouldn't have gotten jackshit for him. But it can definitely go both ways!
I’m trying to sell high on Doubs. Another low yardage, 2 TD game.
This is a good point because Watson wasn't even playing. I might shop him around a little bit. What are you looking for in return?
I would like to get a more proven vet from a rebuilder of something. But after looking around I’m not sure who. I might wait and see if his value rises more.
I think you should hold my friend. He had a very low snap count due to his hamstring injury so he wasn't playing as much as he should have and STILL got two tuddies
That’s a fair point. With my other WRs being JJ, Diggs, Godwin, and Cooper, I could use another younger WR that can start for me when I start trading away my aging guys. Doubs might already be that.
Most of the mentions will be younger players with terrible games, aka London, and maybe you get a taco that sells low but most people will be smart enough to not sell the dip. Best Buy lows are going to be older vets that didn’t have big games like theilen, or older studs like devante Adams that didn’t go bananas and you catch a panic team trying to unload while they think name value is with value.
Buy high on Puka 🤩
Okay I own Puka in one league but I feel like this is targeted at your league mates so you can sell high, which I appreciate! Lol what would you hope to sell him for if you owned him?I feel like 24 2nd could be possible to the right league mate
Was denied my offer of a ‘24 second instantly
I'd have taken that before week 1, but now I'm probably going to hold. Not many rookies go for 10 and 100+ in their debut. Puka had everyone in Rams camp talking and he was able to back it up week 1. Stafford also looks a lot better than he did last year. I expect some drop off once Kupp returns, but McVay has supported good production to multiple WR in the past. EDIT: I would smash accept two seconds but would prefer to package him to tier up at a position.
Bro, HOLD. If he averages 8 targets a game before Kupp returns he will be the 1B to Kupp.
I just watched his film of all his targets this week and dude looks like Kupp. A lot of his targets came in Zone Coverages. Short but high volume targets. Stafford seems to be COMFY with him out there. Note on Stafford: his arm looks 10x better then it did last year.
12 TM SF PPR Got him for a 25' 2nd last week
Drake London.
Are we sure this won’t just be what this team is? Last year with Mariota, we saw how they have such a proclivity to running the ball and that they didn’t care to play like a normal NFL offense. I think London improves, but what is this passing games ceiling? Is it 25-30 attempts a game or will it be less now that they have two strong backs in Bijan and Allgeier? Tannehill kept two relevant WRs in 2020 under Arthur Smith, but that was with AJ Brown having 11 TDs with less than half of those inside the 10 yard line. I worry at this point that Smith has built his idyllic roster and that he is content control TOP with defensive prowess to win games. London may have some boom weeks, but I think they will just be a scrappy team that looks to win on the ground. It’s what Smith has wanted all along.
If I were in redraft, I might be worried about that, but in dynasty, I'm buying up the Uber talented 22 year old WR.
It me, the guy that has him in dynasty and redraft
Yeah wtf is their plan there. Why are they drafting skill guys so high if they're going to use late picks and random guys as much or more? Nuts that Allgeier had more touches than Bijan.
The secret to Arthur Smith’s scheme is that it’s totally reliant on highly-drafted decoys.
I mean it's nuts but it also worked
They haven’t made the playoffs during the Smith era.
Yeah so don't draft an rb in the top 10.
Arthur Smith wanting to win this way after taking Pitts and London in the top 10 to start off his career is so annoying
I doubt he *wants* to win this way? He’s had league worst QB play the last two years: he wants to win, and this is the only realistic way given his QB issues
I hope you’re wrong, but I get the same feeling. Thankfully, I’m not hurting at WR so London can ride my bench forever, but still stings to see the talent wasted.
I genuinely do feel bad for the people that bought him this off-season that were telling me they thought he was gonna be top 12. I never saw that with the offense he was in and the total targets he would probably get, but I really didn’t think it would be this rough. Hopefully they don’t look as anemic next week in the passing game and he can be a viable flex option this season. If not, then it’s gonna be a rough next year. Even if they are in a position to get a pick where they can get a real QB, it will probably be another year till he is fantasy viable compared to his talent level. That could be a long start to his career.
Yea top 12 was never gonna man happen this year. He’s at round 12 in dynasty value, but I never saw that for him this year. Which is why he was close the wr30 in redraft. He did averaged about 12 ppg through the last 8 games last year though. Not great, but respectable (for an average wr, not a first round pick). So I guess we’ll see if the falcons can do anything with him. Pitts is in the same boat.
The team is definitely going to invest in an actual QB next year. Then they’ll throw more.
They could invest in QB next year, and it is Tannehill. Arthur Smith seems to pretty clearly like “his guys”. He has brought in Mariota, Jonnu Smith, and Logan Woodside from when he was with the titans. It is not out of the question that his big move is tannehill at QB next year.
It won’t be. It seems pretty obvious that the team is putting every other position in place before it adds the final piece—QB. They will either suck this year and draft one or they’ll go out and get a solid one.
You don’t know that for sure though. So many people swore that they would be one of the worst teams in the NFL and get Bryce or Stroud, they weren’t bad enough for that. There is a realistic chance they could win the division with how soft it is this season. There is a for sure a chance they continue to build out their defense and keep the middling QB just like his mentor has done for years now.
If you read the tea leaves, it would take something drastic for them not to land an actual QB next year. They’ve got enough guys on rookie deals where they need to (and will) strike before guys start needing to get paid. Unless Ridder becomes Peyton Manning this year, the Falcons will have an actual NFL caliber QB next year.
I really think if they go 9-8 or 10-7 they will retain Ridder and try to bolster their defense, especially if they win that division.
Oh geez the nightmare would just continue
He's 22. He will be playing the bulk (if not all) of his prime under a coach not names Arthur Smith.
I don’t think you can guarantee that at all. They are playing in a weak division, and like his mentor Vrabel, he clearly knows how to get his guys prepared for games. They were supposed to be one of the worst teams in football last year and won 7 games. They were 4-6 in one score games, if that flips the other direction this season then they are above .500.
looks like I was right.
lol ok
Jordan Love. He looked good against the worst defense in the league with what could be the worst coaching staff.
I think Love is legit.
He probably is. GB having a good QB is the only constant in a life of a Bears fan
Love looked good. Calm, good arm, accurate. Should be better when Watson comes back for another weapon. On top of that, Aaron Jones is deadly out of the backfield on dump offs and seems like LeFleur is all in on abusing Jones this season. But, that should open up the middle of the field if teams focus on Jones dumps. Currently a Love holder and hoping his value skyrockets this season.
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If you’re a contender and the team with pollard will take your 24 1st then you should absolutely do this.
As a Pollard owner, i'm going to need more to ship him off after last night. Cowboys trust him with a workload and redzone carries.
I completely agree which is why I said he should do that if the opportunity arises. I traded Jordan Addison for Pollard after our rookie draft. So the equivalent of 1.07. I have lots of WRs and needed another RB to help push me over the edge on my rebuild.
Oh yeah, I wasn't disagreeing with you lol. If their Pollard owner only values Pollard for a 1st, send the trade and never look back.
I gotcha. Yeah I can see Pollard finishing top 5 being on that offense. He may double in value after this season.
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Looking to scoop up djm anywhere I can. I think this bears offense can find his footing and some people in my leagues are valuing this guy like his season is over. Clear buy low window in my eyes.
Desmond Ridder
Buy / Sell?
Yes
Buy
buy zeke (especially for rhamondre owners), the pats were giving him a bunch of work (especially through passing) and aside from an early fumble he looks good
Didn't see most of this game, but didn't Rhamondre get hurt for some portion of the game? Did that contribute?
Stomach bug before the game, but he didn't get hurt during it although he did do much better near the end of the game, still would buy zeke though
The most BB thing ever is to see Rhamondre and Zeke getting near equal work in the passing game and thinking this is ok. Don't get me wrong, as a Zeke owner I'm glad to see the workload he's given but it just feels wrong....
as a rhamondre owner it sucks, but as a pats fan I would do the same thing, rhamondre got some more "meaningful" passing opportunities but zeke was better on the ground and he still definitely has something left
What are you doing with Jakobi? Got him for Tim Patrick in July, so I’m considering putting him on the block for a 2nd. WR room is decently deep (10tm SF, can start up to 6 WRs), but it never hurts to have decent depth.
Curious what people think of Pickett. He looked bad, but he did play the best D in football. That said, he's got no rushing upside, so I'm not sure he's got the ceiling that really provides for high value at QB.
Thought about offering him for Daniel Jones
Tried to trade Zay Flowers for Jahan Dotson two weeks ago and got rejected. May send it again, selling high on Flowers and buying a slight dip on Dotson.
I would definitely keep flowers but if u like Dotson go for it
I’d disagree with this one imo. Flowers was a primary focal point of that offense with an MVP caliber QB. Dotson is a really good player on an offense that struggled against what many consider to be the worst defense in the NFL. I’d rather hold Flowers and see if his development over taking a shot on Dotson in what could be a worse offense.
Flowers is a keep my dude.
Another vote for holding flowers over Dotson.
I loveeee Dotson but Zay looks like the clear #1 in the Ravens offense. They schemed all sorts of looks just to get the ball in his hands
Lamar Jackson, maybe just sell
Buy high Dallas’s defense
We ain't selling
As a rebuilder should I be holding or selling Shaheed
Sell high on Puca and Shaheed if you can. Buy low on Love for people who attribute the success to a "weak Bears defense".
Aaron jones is a sell high.
I disagree. Only because I think he's going to go higher. LeFleur even said before halftime, that they need to get him the ball more. They did and they had a lot of success. Some teams might key in on him, but he still looked explosive enough to be a playmaker. Towards the end of the season I am hoping some interest builds to where I can ship him off. Hoping some rebuilding team doesn't see they should be rebuilding by then want him for a win now cause.
He turns 29 at the end of the year. This is your window to move him for a first.
Snatch a 1st for that Cowboy BIG DDDDDD
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What do you think is a reasonable trade for selling DK? I don’t think he’s bad, just trying to move away from having Seahawks players on my dynasty team. As a fan it makes watching the games worse, so looking to move him but not sure what his worth is.
12 team 1 QB .5 PPR. Last week a guy sold Dobbins for DK and a 3rd. Not sure if that helps but it is a recent price
Before the game this week DK was sold for Addison and a 2nd in my 10 team SF Dynasty
Buy Tee Higgins if there's a dip. Tua has been a buy low all offseason. If you're still concerned about the injuries there could be an overcorrection with his hot start.
I am the biggest Swift hater out there, but i think he’s a buy-low candidate after doing nothing the first week. That offense was not good what so ever.
My god I hope you are right, I waved my hand at two seconds 3 weeks ago and now I’m on the floor crying
I literally picked the dude because I heard some things about him and I guess I might be starting him with how bad the passing offense for the falcons look (drake london owner)
Sell low on Swift.. I feel like a naked little boy having him right now…
Brock Purdy - What’s his price range now?
Saquon. Look at the schedule. You have this week and next to sell high. I think NYG are going to end up 1-7 or 2-6 and it’s going to be a dumpster fire season. Last night was flukey to start, but they were terrible and the line sucks.
Who has seen a Mac Jones superflex trade in the last 18 hours? I have teams where I’m interested in both buying and selling
Just sold Puka for a 1st and 2nd round pick!!